Lol I love how the "Publishers can sell tons of copies of JRPGs on Xbox" myth won't die. The failure of exclusive JRPGs on 360 (by far the most popular Xbox) couldn't kill it. The low Xbox sales of FF games that launched on Xbox and PlayStation at the same time couldn't kill it. The fact that Gamepass has the few players on Xbox who actually play JRPGs conditioned to expect them for free can't kill it.
I always like it when an "insider" comes out and confirms an obvious truth that everyone with common sense had been saying for years, and it's treated as big news.
Okay; now can everyone who tries to equate position on a sales chart with permanent sales success take note of this information? Because Suicide Squad topped the UK sales charts the week it launched, and has been one of the top ten selling games in the US this year according to Circana (NPD). Yet it is admittedly a huge financial failure.
Because everytime I point to a big budget game that was obviously a financial disappointment, someone will inevitably try to disprove i...
Ragnarok sold 15 million as of last November.
https://blog.playstation.co...
Well, what do you mean by "if Xbox goes under"? Because MS itself isn't going under. So if they decided Xbox was no longer worth it, it's not like they would just eat all those losses. Sure, for individual developers where there are substantial costs in terms of the people working at the studio and minimal money to be made selling related IP (i.e. Arkane Austin probably costs a lot in resources but MS couldn't have made much selling the studio because Redfall is worthles...
@Eonjay
Yet that is probably the least important part of all of this. Everyone is talking about the 170+ countries where the game was on sale on Steam but that don't have access to PSN, because 170 sounds like a big number. But realistically the vast majority of games Sony ever sells are sold in the US, Europe (and primarily a few Western European countries, I know some smaller Euro countries don't have PSN), and Japan (and Japan is pretty irrelevant for Helldivers)...
No doubt. People tend to have very selective outrage about these types of things. It's like the people who swear they'll never buy a certain game until the publisher releases a physical version, yet they happily play various other games that are only available digitally, or the people who say they won't buy a certain multiplayer centric game because it doesn't include a traditional campaign, yet they play other multiplayer only games, or the people who blast major publishers f...
"I feel like there's a trend of well made games like this going largely ignored by the gaming audience."
Yep. I'd love to know how many of us actually bought this game, rather than just getting it on Gamepass or PS Plus. Probably a shockingly low number. Steam concurrents topped out at 419.
I know it's anecdotal, but when I think of my favorite indie games, I still largely think of titles that came out in the 2009-2015 range. Maybe w...
The thing is, some of the Indie devs closing are really independent. In other words, we can blame Take 2 here, but who can we blame other than the consumers when a fully independent dev shuts down because their games aren't selling? There is an answer to that question, it just isn't greedy publishers, even if they are the most fun to blame.
There is fault to go around. Some of it is on consumers for sure. We whine constantly about live service games, but then we play them anyway and ignore better smaller titles.
But publishers and platform holders bear some responsibility too. You hear stories come out from indie devs who had big hits in the late PS3/360 to early PS4/XONE window who can barely move units now, and some of that is definitely failure to advertise and poor discoverability. During that era I felt ...
@Nyxus
You may want to look at the release date for that physical version...
Nice edit lol.
That's a great point about BG3. It hasn't even gotten 5% of the flak AW2 has for being digital only. The one distinction I will make is that AW2 isn't available on Steam. There are plenty of people who don't want to use other digital storefronts who will use Steam.
@toxic-inferno
Sure, it's every person's choice what they want to spend their money on. No one challenges that. But if you make a big stand about how you won't buy a game unless you can buy it on a disc, and encourage other people to take the same stand, but then turn around and buy other games digitally that aren't available on disc, you are a hypocrite.
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@SickSinceSix
The point is, if there is a rumor that something bad happened, and then people start freaking out and saying that something far worse and more extreme happened, the fact that only the initially rumored bad event actually happened does not mean that the rumors were false.
Think of it this way. A few reporters start tweeting that around $5 million was stolen from a major bank. Then a bunch of random people on social media start freaking out an...
Yeah it's crazy they are all celebrating the rumors being a "nothing burger" when in fact the rumors from reputable sources were basically proven to be correct.
It's like someone told them the earth is going to explode in about 3000 years, and they all started freaking out that the world is going to end in the next year. Then scientists came out and confirmed the explosion is going to happen 2987 years from now, and they all laugh and say the rumors were f...
Ehh, we know now that most people buying Xboxs are buying these. Honestly I think the magic number is $199 though, psychologically.
If it wasn't exactly what you have to expect from this crowd, I'd say it's astounding that people are taking a straightforward confirmation of the rumors of Xbox releasing a few games on other platforms as a refutation of those rumors.
This is such a baffling take. The solid rumors from reliable sources were basically confirmed. A few games like Hi-Fi Rush coming to other platforms. The doomsday scenario Xbox "influencers" were afraid of where MS was going to become the new Sega never had anything behind it.
If someone tells you that several houses on your street were burglarized and then you turn around and start telling people, based on that, that the entire neighborhood was destroyed in a fi...
Okay, but everyone taking this attitude NEEDS to actually buy the game if/when they do a physical run of it. If you sit here and chirp chirp chirp about wanting a disc, and then they eventually release one and everyone who asked for it says "meh, mid, I'll wait for sale," they are going to take that as evidence that they were right to not bother initially.
I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.