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Alan Wake 2 PC Requirements Are Very Demanding Even Without Ray Tracing Enabled

It's bad news for anyone with an Nvidia 10-series GPU.

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Petebloodyonion218d ago

I have to admit that it's pretty demanding for 30 FPS/1980P experience( w Raytracing) demands a PC a lot more powefull compared to Serie X and PS5.

Furesis218d ago

I swear some of these demanding games don't even look that good yet u can barely play them like wtf.
Look at uncharted 4 game still looks better than most of these new games but u can run it easy.
Wtf are some of these game devs doing? Everything has upscaling too as default like it's just embarrassing.
It's almost like its on purpose like they have a deal with gpu makers to just fill their games with crap so that people are forced to buy new gpu's. That's my tinfoil hat moment of the day but something aint right.

eagle21216d ago

You took the words right out of my mouth. Well said.

Number1TailzFan218d ago (Edited 218d ago )

Demanding? Hardly, 3700x was released in 2019 and only just caught up to Intel's 8700k which was usually still better in games. 16GB of ram has been cheap for ages, at least for DDR4.. Even 32GB of good speed DDR5 is reasonable now.

You can argue the 4070 requirement for Ultra is maybe a little steep but TBF the Nvidia cards this gen are all mostly poor price/performance unless you plump for a 4090, anything below that AMD has pretty much got the market on for raster performance for the money.

"It's bad news for anyone with a 10 series GPU" uhhh okay. So you want games to advance but run well on what's now slow hardware. I mean the 3700x CPU is kind of okay but only just, there's much faster CPUs now in terms of IPC and clocks, from both Intel and AMD.

jeromeface217d ago

The argument that 10 series cards won't run it well has no merit. Its been almost 7 years since that card released, its time to upgrade.

CantThinkOfAUsername216d ago

The 10 series won't run the game at all. The game is using DX12 Ultimate's Mesh Shaders which is only supported on 20 series and up.

Kuklygamer217d ago

Thats just stupid. Amd toolset is patheic they try to copy evetything what nvidia invent but with low quality. AMD always compete against previous gen nvidia. DLSS is gen better than fsr. RT is atleast gen ahead of amd. Frame generation is nvidia invented as is everything else mentioinef plus nvidia reflex= anti lag, nvidis NiS= amd ris and so on. And amd have lower performance on every tool. Rtx 4070 is much better than rtx 3070. 3070 was released before ps5 and is 2.5x times faster. Rtx 4080 is much better than rtx 3090ti and so on. With updated tools and effiency. Operate whisper quiet and OC cracy with new 4nm process.

Number1TailzFan216d ago (Edited 216d ago )

Frame generation adds input lag. I said "poor value" I didn't say they were poor performance, they're not good price/performance. You're splashing out a lot of money for a 4080 when a 4090 is not that much more for a noticeable performance boost. Even Hardware Unboxed think the same, that basically almost anything below a 4090 AMD has the market, unless you care about RT, which wouldn't be great on a mid range card anyways. People here clearly have no clue if they disagree with what the majority of hardware enthusiasts think.

Judging by my downvotes and what it says under the title it looks like people want new graphically demanding games to run well on 7-8+ year old hardware and only upgrade their PC once every decade. Good luck with that.

ChasterMies216d ago

The power of the PC as a platform is its large numbers. Minecraft, Fortnite, and Among Us all succeeded because they could run on low spec hardware and the laptops people use for work and school. Or put another way, when you have the option of buying a a $400 console instead of replacing your entire PC, you’ll go console every time.

CantThinkOfAUsername216d ago

The game requires a 3070 for 1080p medium with DLSS performance (540p upscaled) and No Ray Tracing. It's ridiculous, but we'll have to wait and see if it looks the part.

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Kuklygamer217d ago

Except 720p ps5 version fsr scaled to 4k or 1440p. Consoles have became slow again.

PRIMORDUS217d ago

That's always the problem from the start of a new console. They need to spec them much higher for the future to handle demanding games at 60fps+ and just drop 30fps period, that should not be even considered at all now.

PRIMORDUS217d ago

Well shit and I just upgraded to a 1440p monitor, after 10+yrs of 1080p 😀 Finally got what I wanted. 24" 1440p 165hz gsync IPS, and 123ppi (AOC Q24G2A) had to import it from Amazon UK to the US but so far I'm happy with it. Now to retire my 3070, as the future for that card at 1440p looks bleak. 😟

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No Steam And Physical Release, Alan Wake 2 Not Profiting Was Inevitable

Choosing Epic over Steam and antagonizing the entire physical media fanbase, it's no wonder the masterpiece Alan Wake 2 didn't make a profit.

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thorstein11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I asked for this game as a gift. My wife couldn't find it at Gamestop, Amazon, or anywhere else.

I didn't realize it was digital only, I just figured it sold out because of the reviews and how good it looks.

Most consumers don't read gaming news daily, how would they know it's digital only?

Plus, outside of seeing it on Jackfrags YouTube channel, I hadn't seen much in the way of marketing.

Dirtnapstor11d ago

It's a really good game. I platted this one on the PS5. Well worth your time exploring this universe.

Jingsing11d ago

Unfortunately Remedy has become a bit of a nasty studio over this past decade, You just need to look at their business decisions and other projects they attempted. They are not pro consumer at all.

Petebloodyonion11d ago

You know that it's Epic Games that funded and published the game right?

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Yea, people are kind of dumb. I mean, no offense to @Jingsing up there, I know that’s blunt but it reminds me of Bayonetta 2 when that got announced and it was a Nintendo exclusive. It’s exclusive because f*cking Nintendo funded the development. But people were all like f*ck Sega for sh*tting on their fans when in actuality the game never would’ve gotten made if Nintendo didn’t straight up pay for the development.

Alan Wake 1 was not a massive seller. In fact, correct me if I’m wrong, but it underperformed and that’s why a proper sequel never got made until now where Epic literally paid for the game to be developed… but you got people saying, Remedy isn’t pro consumer because this game is Epic exclusive 🤦‍♂️

anast11d ago

They did this to save money, but it didn't work.

Skuletor11d ago

Will be interesting to see if they try the same thing for the Max Payne remake(s). You'd think they won't but people continue to surprise me.

anast11d ago

I think they could do some kind of special edition physical release. This way the crowd that has been with this game since the beginning would have the option to buy a physical disk. They would sell more too.

Charlieboy33311d ago

@anast No, it needs a normal physical release.....not some bullshit 'special edition' physical release. This way we will be able to easily get a physical copy for if we want, instead of having to mission to own some kind of limited version. That's not actually gonna boost physical sales now is it?

Chocoburger11d ago

I wonder if they've learned their lesson? Who am I kidding, of course no gaming company does at this point. Keep making those mistakes.

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Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Earned Back Its Budget

Remedy has released its financial statement for the first quarter of 2024, and despite strong sales, Alan Wake 2 has yet to recoup its development costs.

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-Foxtrot29d ago

Well. They know what they gotta do…

toxic-inferno29d ago

Exactly.

With every article like this, I becomr more convinced that an announcement is inevitable. Hoping for something around the time of the game's 1-year anniversary.

-Foxtrot29d ago

I want to believe they are just hanging on to try and get the last drop out of the digital market but another part of me thinks it’s just spite at this point, not wanting to admit their business move was a f***** terrible decision

They made out it was because they wanted to offer it cheaper to us but me and others would have gladly paid the standard for physical. Even a collectors edition would have been nice to buy.

toxic-inferno29d ago

Absolutely. What would the harm have been? Offer the digital version at the lower price they want, and a "Collector's Edition" with some fairly naff additions for 50% more. I'd have gone for it without question.

Cacabunga29d ago

physical release or go home Remedy.

_Decadent_Descent29d ago

Bringing it to Steam would definitely help too. Although I suspect getting a physical release is probably more likely, and even that doesn't look good.

neutralgamer199229d ago

Waiting on steam release otherwise no buy. And I would double dip to get physical for ps5 or XSX but remedy have to first admit there is a problem before a solution is made available

darthv7229d ago

i think its an Epic game though.... does Epic release games on Steam?

notachance29d ago

definitely waiting for steam version, I never buy a game on another storefront at all.. even gamepass games I'd just try for a bit then buy the steam version if I like it.

Yui_Suzumiya28d ago

Yeah, I'm waiting on a Steam version as well.

wesnytsfs28d ago

Not sure at this point a physical release makes sense. Would you even recoup enough lost money on the costs to get the game released physically. Mots who wanted to play the game did not sure you would sell enough copies to recoup the costs to get the game out physically.

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babadivad29d ago

IMHO, it just wasn't that good. It's not as good as QB or Control.

TheEroica28d ago

Exclusive games.... The cancer of modern gaming. Only corporate friendly husks root for exclusive games as a model.

seanpitt2328d ago

What were they expecting.. release digital only and make there money back, come on! they shot themselves in the foot alienating all the fans of physical media.. now the hype has gone down it will be difficult to shift copies now even if they do release disks. Only way of making extra $ release on ps plus

wesnytsfs28d ago

Blows my mind someone would pass on obtaining a game they wanted to play just so you can have the case and a game disc that is already out of date to the current live version. The boxes upon boxes and totes full of game and game related accs and hardware when I moved made me grateful for all the digital stuff I had.

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darthv7229d ago

I bet it would if they just pressed a few discs and sold them at retail.

monkey60229d ago

I still haven't bought it. Would have if it was physical though

TheProfessional28d ago

Alan Wake 2 is also just not that good. Its the sequel to a good but not great game to begin with and the case board "gameplay" was terrible and there wasn't enough combat. Also the live action stuff looks really cheap and Sam Lake didn't need to put himself into alan wake 2 for no reason.

shinoff218329d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Lol. I imagine there's still alot of people that buy physicals. Or atleast see what kind of new games are out by what they see in real stores. This is on them. Idda paid 70 day one physical. Now I won't pay more then 15 for it

Crows9029d ago

You don't have to imagine
...still at least 40% of sales come from physical.

Amplitude29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I'd imagine significantly more than 40% of PC gamers also only buy games on Steam.
Maybe a crazy remastered Steam release will launch alongside the RTX 6070 or something once the Epic Store's gone for good. EGS is basically a Fortnite launcher that also sells games with an unreasonably amount of missing features. Alan Wake and Fortnite have absolutely nothing in common either. I can't imagine this sold well and there's no way Epic would ever fund something this big ever again. Basically though; when Fort dies, EGS dies and I hope a Steam release will come after so this game can get the audience it deserves.

I bought a 360 for AW1 and have been waiting years to play AW2 but I just haven't had the ability to buy it yet. I was gonna "steal" it but I just felt too terrible about it half way through the intro. I've since just stopped caring. I'm patient

Good-Smurf29d ago

This game and Sonic Dream Team needs physical release fast.

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Remedy Makes Changes to Core Management Team, Wants to Grow Alan Wake & Control in Larger Franchises

Remedy has made a couple of changes to its core management team with the goal to grow Alan Wake and Control into larger franchises.

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Jingsing32d ago

Changes like not being anti consumer? putting out Alan Wake Remastered on disc but not the sequel?

ElaBosak20d ago

No one cares about games on discs.

ElaBosak20d ago

Good for them! Can't wait for Control and Max Payne remakes.