3D Without Glasses Is Here! 240hz Killzone 3 Destroys The Competitors

Believe it or not but the next level of gaming is all about the frame rate. Nowadays games are made at 30 or 60fps and the difference is easily noticed in terms of performance.

Now with 240hz refresh rates in HD Televisions, gaming has changed and your eyes won't believe how much more realistic games can look and perform.

3D is the new reality because 240hz comes STRAIGHT AT YOU WITH HIGH FIDELITY

[Pandamobile]

So, you're playing a 30 Hz game on a 240 Hz TV?

You're still playing the game at 30 Hz...

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

yup a 60 Hz tv right now is more than enough ...maybe in the next gen games might be 120 Hz or maybe 240 Hz then those tv's will start to sell well.

[multipayer]

Lol, I've been playing the beta for killzone 3 and "more than enough" is more than correct. ;) I imagine the framerate takes an even bigger hit when played in 3D...

[Ryudo]

What is this guy even smoking, either he is just making stuff up. Because it doesn't matter if you have a 3D TV if you don't have 3D media.

Someone correct me if am wrong but KZ3 beta only currently supports 2D gaming right? So am guessing his malfunctioning brain is creating the 3D effect for him.

Because honestly there wasn't any effect to being with.

[xino]

wtf!? if you know anything about KZ3, you'd know the game is already a 3D supporter!
And it's even in Pre Alpha mode and supports 3D.

When I played it, it wasn't impressive, however considering it being in pre alpha...wow.
by the time it's the finished product, the game would look farking amazing!!!

[R0me]

Thats not right.
On a big full hd tv you see a clear difference between 50-60Hz and 100Hz. If you buy a new tv these days you should get a 100 Hz tv. Fast movements look sharper, its a fact.

[GrieverSoul]

Guys, I have a 200hz 3D tv and I can tell you one thing, games look incredible better when 200hz are ON. But there´s a catch. In online game you have to turn it off because this technology introduces an image lag of 150ms added to the internet lag you can almost have half a seconf of disavantange. For instance, Castlevania and Black Ops single player mode look incredbly better when 200hz are ON! Its actually better that its original 60fps but you are playing still on 60fps but your tv renders "fake" frames to simulate what appears to be a more fluid gameplay.

[gamingdroid]

I would like to hear from the guys that own a a 60+ Hz TV why it is better (if you think so)?

As far as I can tell, higher refresh rates implies one of two things:

a) The same image is repeated multiple times so there is no benefit to gamers.

b) There is some interpolation going on between the frames, but that suggest it might introduce artifacts or things the original developer never intended. It might cause the game to look smoother.

The only reason people preferred a 120Hz TV is because film content is at 24fps, this is a multiple of 120 and therefore avoids the issue of 2:3 pull down i.e. judding that is basically choppy motion. Most people however, don't notice this on their 60Hz TV.

For consoles gaming, I see no tangible benefit for having a 60+ Hz TV beyond maybe 3D!

[walker01]

@GrieverSoul
am i missing something or is what you just said really stupid?
"this technology introduces an image lag of 150ms"
so when its supposed to make everything quicker and smoother is adds a lag of 150ms?

[GrieverSoul]

@gamingdroid

Fortunaly, my Samsung allows to tweak the motion Plus settings (the 200hz feature). In some brands you can only activate 200hz and it will produce artifacts. Thats especially true in movies since they are reproduced in a 24 to 30 fps. But 60 fps games produce little artifacts. Actually, from my experience in Castlevania and Black Ops single player, I saw no artifacts what so ever. But in PSN games that are generally rendered at 30 fps, the image appears to stutter every 10 seconds.

Honestly, its a great tech but far from perfected. I you really like tech and are earger to experience the latest, buy one! You will love it. Otherwise, wait till it gets more polished.

@walker01
Stupid is a strong word. No need for it.
This is easy to explain. The PS3 will output 60 fps but your TV will show you 120. 60 are the original ones rendered by your PS3 and the other 60 are a result from the middle of 2 original frames.

Like this
1 (original frame)
1.5 (fake frame rendered from your TV engine)
2 (orginal frame)

The 1 and 2 are real frames and the 1.5 is a result in a "morph" between the 1 and 2. But how can the TV make a "morph" of frame 2 since it hasnt been recieved? It delays the info coming from your PS3 by 100 to 150 miliseconds.

Puttting it simple:
PS3 sends frame 0, 1, 2 and 3.
You will get a 0, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5 and 3
However you will start to see the 0 frame when the PS3 as already given your TV the 3 frame. The tv will store the frames and create the middles ones and show them to you. This creates a lag.

Image lag in common in every HDTV from 40 to 60 ms. Only CRTs provide real 1:1 output images. Thats why you see 8ms and 19 ms response time stamped on your PC monitor.

[blackbeld]

@GrieverSoul.

THNX, for the update.

I wish I had more Ca$h. :(

[Beefstew4u]

ITT: People who think that playing a 30-60hz game on a 240hz tv makes it look better.

[Spydiggity]

why are people still clicking on this moron's articles? this guy plays games on easy, he can't properly construct a sentence, he uses flamebait titles, and his videos have no value. boycott!

[bnaked]

HipHopGamer is right. Do you know, what Motion Flow means?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

And now use your brains!

200/30=fail
240/30=8=smoothness
Castlevania has a framerate below 30fps, so let's say:
240/25=fail
And thats why the hiphopgamer has critizised that game on his TV, because the frames of the TV must be in line with the frames of the game..

It's just simple and logic. The quality of the grafics will increase, because there will be more sharpness in motion.
Oh and sorry for my english..

[Seijoru]

GOW3 runs at 60hz

[Seijoru]

Woops scratch that, mis-read it. Thought this was about GOW3 but its about KZ3.

[AwesomeJizz]

LOL and people still agreed with you.. Classic PS fanboys.

[TheTruthTeller]

hz = the tv's refresh rate
games run in frames per second not in hz per second

so if you play a game on a tv that has 240hz refresh rate it will appear smoother and sharper but still be running at 30 or 60 frames per second.

[militant07]

there is no such thing as hz per sec lol.

hz is x per sec.

x can be frame or anything else.

[Nineball2112]

@ AwesomeJizz + 4h ago "LOL and people still agreed with you.. Classic PS fanboys."

If the statement that GOW3 runs at 60hz IS TRUE (regardless of whether that's the game mentioned in this submission), then why wouldn't people agree with it?

Yeah, agreeing with facts certainly makes one a fanboy. /s

Sheesh... smh.

[branchedout]

@Nineball2112

Because, Games run at frames per second, and TVs at Hertz.

If the statement was, "GOW 3 runs at 60 FPS on a 60hz TV" then it would be true.

It's a technical nuance, but it's very similar to saying, "I'm going to help my uncle, Jack, off a horse" without commas.

[sourav93]

@TheTruthTeller Yh dude. Militant07 is right. Hz is the short form for Hertz, which is the unit for frequency. Frequency is 1/T i.e. per unit time. So when it comes to tvs, the frequency is significant in terms of frames. Hence, frames x 1/T = Frames per second.

[playboi28]

@AwesomeJizz

I don't understand how this has anything to do with anyone being a PS3 fanboy. They are both PS3 exclusive games. They obviously just made a mistake. A better question is if his statement was true or not. The answer to that is yes. And finally, he apologized for his mistake before you even had a chance to criticize him for his comment.

I really don't even understand all this fanboy nonsense anyway. Last gen, all of these die hard 360 players played PS2. Most of them didn't even play their Xbox's IF they even HAD one other than playing Halo. Seems kinda petty and stupid to me.

[TheTruthTeller]

@militant07

it does not matter the game will still be running at 30 or 60 frames per sercond no matter what the hz of the tv is all it will do is appear to run smoother not faster.

[menoyou]

I was excited at the title... but then I saw "hiphopgaymer"

[RememberThe357]

I knew it was him immediately. He's been raving about 240hz for a minute now. No one else seems to give shit lol.

[xGrunty]

hhg is the biggest joke in gaming.

[K3nji]

I think we all know who won this battle...

[Mizz_mai]

@Grunty

HHG is just expressing his opinion,like ign and other's do on they're reviews etc...did you troll ign for they're ridiculous revirew's....didnt think so....

At the end of the day he's going out there meeting dev's,and such what you doing......ok then..

[josephayal]

Lollllllll

[xGrunty]

@Mizz_mai

Well let's see, I'm expressing my opinion about someone who is well...expressing their opinion.

And what are you doing? Expressing your opinion about someone expressing their opinion, about someone expressing their opinion....

So please. Shut up.

I've met plenty of developers going to PAX and such. What makes me different is I can actually speak a coherent sentence.

[STiRacer]

Recording himself in his grandmas room talking about old tech. This guy needs to move out of his grandmas house and get a job.

[INehalemEXI]

Active shutter display technology is the primary technology that is being championed by a number of big name manufacturers such as Sony, Panasonic and Nvidia. In this method, the left and right images are displayed alternatively in a sequential manner on a regular LCD TV. However, since the effective frame rate is halved, these displays need to have double the refresh rate of standard LCD monitors and TVs (60 Hz). This is why you will find that all 3D ready TVs have a minimum frame rate of 120 Hz.

I'm siding with HHG on this one cause I know my 60hz HDTV does not do ASDT 3D and it is for sure not glassless.... I mean you can use old school 3D red blue glasses on a 60 hz for movies but i magine that does look like crap compared to the 240hz Sabrina I think he called it.

[BrothaDave]

Actually that's not true, the TV is what is affecting your hertz, the frame rate is locked by the game though but those are two different things. Everything on a 120, 240, 480 and 600hz tv looks much different than a 60hz TV and if you don't know that you haven't played a game on one.

Everything I play on my TV is greatly affected by my 120hz TV, everything is smoother. If the frame rate of a game is messed up then that's the developers mistake. I could never go back to a 60hz TV, it makes that much of a difference.

You guys are confusing hertz and frame rate, they are two different things.

[TheTruthTeller]

games run at 30 or 60 frames a second not in hz so you can run a game on a 240hz tv in 240hz but the games will still be running at 30 or 60 frames a second just look smoother because of the tv's refresh rate.

[Azfargh]

30 hertz??? games runs on FPS dude... not hertz. Geez..

[BrianG]

Same thing really.

[Beahmscream]

Lol

[BrianG]

For the disagree's,

Read up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[xAlmostPro]

@pandamobile yes & no..

a games fps, is not the same as a tv's refresh rate, if the games locked to say 30fps or 60fps.. yes you'll be playing in that but thehigher refresh rate of the TV makes image proccesses faster & smoother, so actually it doe's improve what you see..

which can work well for 3D, because it requires a high Fps.. playing on a 240hz tv would make it looks alot smoother and lower the amount of graphical drops..

:)

[gameraxis]

@Panda mobile... u beat me to it... i just wanted to say hhgamer, before u embarrass yourself any more... hit the info button on ur tv remote... it'll say 1920 or 1940 ( i forget) by 1080 @ 60htz...

the only thing i will agree with hhg with and disagree with panda is... i have a 240 htz samsung led 1080p and all that, and playing cod on my 60 htz samsung i got 4 years ago...then switching tvs as i just got my new one, makes a difference... and it seems just because of the tv being able to go so much higher than 60 frames/ refresh rate, it handles a 60fps game much better and does make it look more fluid... BUT when i hit that info button it still says running at 60 htz... now i use cod as an example because it actually runs at 60frames and in 1080p. most games dont.. but please hhg, its not 3d, 3d will actually come out at u.. what ur seeing is a more water/fluid display with less screen noise and judder reduction. so sorry to say it bro but ur tv is reading ur game, seeing its 60fps and its running it at 60 htz.... different mediums ie blueray, differences in games etc CAN make ur tv work to its highest potential but u need a little more knowledge into how these things work...plus theres things like film, 3:2 pull downs, all these variables that make a higher refresh rate better, but STOP with the 3d bs. its runnig 60 htz better, because it can handle so much more, but if a game is 60 fps its... whatever i just said that. here's what I'm confused about... SOME PEOPLE ABOVE PLEASE ANSWER... ur claiming a 240 htz tv will look better vs a 60 htz tv running a 60 frameps game like cod, AGREED! BUT u say its fps doesn't mean htz? but when i hit info to look, it says running at 60 htz... now if i'm playing a 30 frameps game, it wont run at 30htz as it seems 60htz on a 240 htz tv is the lowest it will go... so when can i hit info (for my screen status) and see it running the full 240 htz its meant to run? if some of u are saying the frame rate has nothing to do with it?? just explain

[JsonHenry]

Anyone that has played a game, even though it is being run at 30FPS, with a 120hz or 240hz TV can tell you that there is a MASSIVE improvement on how "smooth" the video feels.

But it doesn't make the game look any better or any more "3D".

However, the experience is a lot better than an old 60hz HDTV. It is just hard to explain because it makes a difference without "making a difference" if that makes any sense?

[frostypants]

"So, you're playing a 30 Hz game on a 240 Hz TV? You're still playing the game at 30 Hz..."

Not necessarily. Most 240Hz TVs utilize motion interpolation to fill in additional frames, for the very reason you suggest: source material is never at 240Hz. In essence, these TVs can improve your displayed frame rate. This is why if you're watching films, which are shot at 24p, on a 240Hz TV, they suddenly look like soap operas. New frames are added to smooth out the picture display.

The problem that HHG is ignoring is generally the "game mode" on these TV's turns 240Hz/motion interpolation off, since it adds a bit of lag between input and display.

[JsonHenry]

Well said, Frostypants.

[solidt12]

yes but these tv's have processors in them that make the image look even better.

[evilunklebud]

Killzone 3 thumbs up!

3D TV thumbs down.... in its current state.

[gameraxis]

dude, its smoother, more judder and noise/grain reduction, BUT ITS NOT FREAKING ANYWHERE NEAR 3D...it looks great,way better than 60 htz, more fluid, crisper... but ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 3D... stop over reacting to everything u cover and people will start to take u seriously... i have the same if not better tv u have (not to gloat just to make a point that i had a 40 inch 1080 60 htz now i upgraded), and i know exactly what ur talking about, except mine is a samsung which at the moment has better tech in the televisions than sony... i have a 240 htz, 1080p LED 3d 40 inch that i got on black friday, so i know what ur saying... but 3d actually COMES OUT TO UR EYES... this is just a very very sharp and fluid, crisp and detailed picture compared to 60 htz televisions... STOP OVER SELLING UR ARTICLES FOR HITS, so many people who actually know tech u just lost credibility with because of ur over exaggeration on EVERYTHING... be professional... and i saw u with d12, i saw u with all the big names, ur making a name for yourself... i see it bro, but to the public, u still make urself look like a clown sometimes with only half accurate "facts", and i follow u because i love the passion, but damn dog, the shit looks nothing like if u were to throw the glasses on and play k3 that way... just call a spade a spade... another words, The title should be more like "240 Htz televisions give gaming graphics a significant new edge in visuals" not "3D is here, ps4 graphics bla bla" think about it dude, if 240 htz was ps4 graphics and true pop out to ur face graphics... why the hell would sony even be making all these 3d supported games and products... they would just bundle 240htz tv's with their ps3 and say, "the next generation is here with 3d" no glasses no nothing... THINK IT THROUGH! i know this sounds harsh bro, but i got the same fire in me about gaming and i love the passion... but there's a line where u let it get in the way of good journalism... ie when u were in the GOW studio(my favorite franchise of all time) and they showed u a half poly image of kratos that didn't look finished yet, u exploded with "AWW SHOOT, MAANNN THAT IS UUNNNBBELIEVALBLE, U GUYS ARE TRULY THE DEV GODS OF WAR" or whatever, and i KNOW every dev in that room was like, dude relax, all the dressings aren't even on yet... just chill out a little, work on ur self awareness and comprehension of what u cover... look at the two most popular journalists in the industy, Keighly, and Sessler, when they talk to devs they interview with saying something like "it is amazing what you guys over at naughty dog were able to do with U2, What goes into making such an Amazing seamless experience, because it was always that Indiana Jones adventure i never got to play in the medium, and i was blown away"... then again, who the fu** am i to tell u how to do anything, NOBODY, just another passionate gamer... but somewhere down the line where that Keighly or Sessler position is out there and ur a possible candidate, there going to look at how u can portray a professional attitude while coming across totally impressed and gracious... and they'll go with the other guy... but hell good luck bro, my rant is over, and I'm almost tired of reading headlines that i get excited for, then see HHGshow and think to myself, ok its a spinned, over exaggerated title for hits.. and start to not click the link anymore. And from reading, there's a lot of people doing the same thing. I know this sounds like a lot of hate, but I'm trying to just give a little advice...take it or leave it bro. good luck

[jack who]

dude man stop this stuff you dont know wat your talkin bout....

[egm_hiphopgamer]

I don't know what I'm talking about, do you have a 240hz TV at home? have you played it? if the answer is no well then this convo is pointless if yes and you didn't see a difference check your settings trust me dog 240hz is CRAZY

[jack who]

no i dont have a 240hz tv at my house. no i havent played it no this convo isnt over cause playing a 30/60hz on a 240hz tv wont make a big diff as you claiming.

just like how my car can do 200mph but the speed limit is 30mph see the problem?

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

I've played a 60fps game with my Samsungs 100Hz switched on and it completely destroys the image quality of the game. The only 60fps game that's worked so far with 100Hz switched on is Burnout Paradise which even then starts off fuzzy but gets better during gameplay.

You're actually distorting the image around the edges and that can really mess some peoples eyes up.

You don't know how any of this stuff works especially since none of these 240Hz TV's accept 240 video sources so don't talk about it.

[Pandamobile]

Hiphopgamer continues to show his lack of knowledge when it comes to anything technological.

[Baka-akaB]

sigh HHG ... no one is telling it isnt great . But you are clearly not tech savvy and confusing yourself with terms you did not fully understand .

[ECM0NEY]

Im a huge fan hiphop but these guys are right. The TV will only display what the game runs at.

[Boody-Bandit]

Those displays you are talking about HHG often cause more input lag. Input lag can be worse than a poor internet connection when it's comes to gaming, especially online gaming. I usually base my display purchases on ones that have the least input lag. Nothing else matters. Not contrast ratios, ms times, 120hz, 240hz, 3D or what have you.

Input lag can be a bitch for online gaming.
The only problem is it is hard to find out which displays have the least input lag. It takes a lot of research. Don't fall for marketing gimmicks. Do your research before spending coin on displays. Especially if you are a gamer.

[oohWii]

Some of you guys are trying to make HHG look stupid when in some of your casses you aren't even talking about the same thing.

@Jack who - You say 30/60hz when you are talking about a game or video when you are probably meaning 30/60 FPS.

240hz is the refresh rate of the TV while 60FPS is how many frames are displayed per second. No if you are displaying a 60 FPS game on a 240HZ TV, that TV is repeating each frame 4 times prior to switching to the next frame and then the next frame is being repeated 4 times and so on.

This in fact "COULD" make a game or video indeed look better even though technically the same frame is being repeated. It's kind of like when your windshield wipers are delayed as a lite mist hits your windshield, the longer it takes for the wipers to wipe again, the fuzzier the windshield looks, whereas if the wiper ran at less of a delay (aka 240HZ) your windshield would be clearer faster thus making things appear clearer.

So some of you guys are trying to act like bosses as you smack talk HHG and you look stupid. I'm no technical marvel so perhaps this article would better explain it.

But I do think some of you guys are confusing Frame rate with refresh rate.

See this article for better clarification, and give HHG a break and stop being such D-Bags.
http://hometheater.about.co...

[multipayer]

I'd assume the new TVs have some kind of 3d motion enhancer effect, which may make anything look amazing. I keep the motion enhancer for my 120hz 2d TV off, because it may cause lag.

Maybe next gen will be the generation of lag with your display, online and controls. All lagging.

[Nicaragua]

LOL, these recent HHG articles are just his way of saying "look everyone i bought a new TV and i want to try and convince you its the best TV in the whole wide world!"

Congrats on your new TV but get over it and quit making outlandish claims.

[Bolts]

Seriously Hiphop. This 240Hz BULLSHIT is starting to expose your rather profound incompetence about all things technology. Maybe this huge difference that you're noticing is simply because your last TV was a piece of crap.

Here's a suggestion for you and any fools out there, try putting your LCD/LED TV into gaming mode. That should help your response time and reduce ghosting my a large margin.

[frostypants]

I have a 240Hz TV at home, and HHG does know what he's talking about. The motion interpolation on these 240Hz TVs makes a huge difference in the smoothness of the output. But it's primarily the motion interpolation feature they built into the 240Hz mode, not the 240Hz refresh rate all by itself, that does this.

But again, usually "game mode" turns it off because of the response lag it can introduce. I leave 240Hz mode on for games like Mass Effect 2, or even Demon's Souls, but I always turn it off for online shooters.

[axeblade1]

I have a 120HZ and I can see the difference in uncharted 2 and some other games compared to my 60 Hz 1080P HDTV. It does make the graphics stand out more profoundly. Dang now I wish I would have paid a little more and sprung for the 240 Hz. Can't wait for KZ3

[Boody-Bandit]

"response lag it can introduce. I leave 240Hz mode on for games like Mass Effect 2, or even Demon's Souls, but I always turn it off for online shooters."

That is what I was talking about and people disagreed with me. When you enable those modes (240hz, etc) the display lags and online that is a killer.

[thedarkvault]

hdmi doesn't even have the bandwidth for 240hz, the picture is sent in 60Hz then the frames between are interpolated(MADE UP) by the TV guessing what they should look like. Way different then the console pumping out a 240Hz image.

[hesido]

Guys, he is probably talking about motion interpolation without actually knowing it. Those techs which add extra *intermediary* frames in between (not the same frame mind you).

Repeating the same frame on an LCD doesn't mean much as it doesn't work like CRT and Plasmas, there's no actual refresh rate of pixels, the pixels light up, and stay the same until they have to change to another color: LCD's response time is what matters there. On CRT and Plasmas, repeating the same frame with higher frequency helps reduce flicker.

What he is probably talking about is motion interpolation that adds extra frames (Digital Natural Motion: Philips, Motion Flow: Sony, Movie Plus: Samsung) just look them up guys.

Philip's solution usually introduce massive lag which makes games unplayable. However, some sets do it fast enough so that games can be playable, at least with a more than a frame lag (it has to receive 2 frames to start interpolating between the two)

The downside of this tech is it cannot interpolate big movements, and there may be artifacts on edges of moving objects at a different pace from background. Screen pans work superb.

The end result of successful interpolation is the feeling of the object being actually there, the more samples we receive on our retina, the better our brains are fooled that we're seeing an actual object. That's why he calls it 3d without glasses.

[swinesucker]

Exactly, all it is is interpolation. This is some serious misinformation here. You people need to go read a fucking book before you start spouting off garbage like this. 240 hz settings get you the soap opera effect. It doesn't work, it doesn't look cool. It ruins most games and films. Especially films. It MIGHT be helpful for games that are 30FPS and have scrolling? problems. Fat Princess comes to mind. That one I need my interpolation on but only because it has wicked judder for some reason. Smoother is not always better. You do not need anything smoothed out on most media. There is no reason in hell that you need to smoothen a raw 60FPS game. That is as smooth as you need it to be. As said above you are also introducing artifacts and other anomalies because you are making frames that do not exist!

If a game were 120Hz native it might be different but that is not happening and it doesn't need to. Interpolation blows at the moment. The only reason it is created is not for games but for FILM. But it is nowhere near a perfected option. Film is inherently 24 FPS and it has a lot of judder. This is why many people including myself would rather watch film with 3:2 pulldown on 60Hz TV's instead of the true 24FPS option that newer TV's have as 24 frames a second has so much judder in certain films that it is unwatchable. Bluray has film at its exact framerate. I am not too sure about plasmas but I know they have the best pixel response along with DLP but they also have other drawbacks as well. But let's be real here these people have no clue what they are talking about. HHG is not what you should trust for tech info in any world.

[frostypants]

"Exactly, all it is is interpolation. This is some serious misinformation here"

I'd say there is more misinformation coming from the HHG haters than from HHG himself.

He is right, this stuff CAN make games look better. He's just confusing the terms since motion interpolation and 240Hz are often packaged together in the same viewing mode.

But the people running around saying it makes no difference have never laid eyes on it.

[KarateExplosion]

Why is everyone ignoring oohwii's comment... It makes perfect sense (click his link for further info). If you don't think having a 240/120 makes the game look smoother you are retarded (without clicking the link I can tell you that).
However HHG... If you think the tv improves the processing power on your system and can stop/hide the frame rate issues in black ops.. You are crazy

[Azfargh]

"jack who"

I don´t even like much hiphopgamer, but I must agree with him and say to YOU:

dude man stop this stuff you dont know wat your talkin bout....
#2

u think games run on "hertz" too, right? tsc tsc tsc

[PS3ROCKS]

I hip for 3d

[Markie]

Current 240Hz tv's dont even accept a 240Hz source, they just scale the video from 24-60 Hz to 240 Hz.

[Mustang300C2012]

"3D Without Glasses Is Here! 240hz Killzone 3 Destroys The Competitors"

See this is the nonesense that just amazes me. I mean this brings us back to the whole discovery he thought he had when he hooked his 360 to his EDTV and claimed he was SEEING 720p on his 480p display. I mean he doesn't bother to actually educate himself on any technology he is hyping about. Which is sad. Take the time to actually write and say WTF you are talking about. I mean first the flaimbate title that it is Killzone 3 destroys competitors and now 3D without glasses? See it is titles and comments right there that just show your lack of knowledge on alot of subjects. Even games.

[eagle21]

I totally agree. And your comment was hilarious without even trying to be....bubble. :)

[BlackBusterCritic]

LMAO!! I knew it was HIPHOPGAMER just from the title! =D

HipHopGamer, please EXPLAIN YOURSELF, how can something LOOK better on a 240 mhz TV when the game is NOT MADE AT 240 mhz?!?!!

[Pandamobile]

Perhaps the poor man has an undiagnosed vision impairment :(

[nycredude]

Not to hate on him but seriously dude needs to research more before letting his excitement get the better of him all the time. Who knows maybe he likes the taste of feet...

It isn't just the 240 mhz that is making the picture better. Those new tvs uses new panels and usually comes with LED either edge lit or locally. THey combine a better refresh rate with superior contrast and color management to deliver a more vibrant and detailed picture. ALso WTF does this have to do with glasses free 3d?

[SilverSlug]

BlackBusterCritic, how are you. Bubbles.

You have to make a debunking video.

[TheGrimReaper]

HHG is laughable, but guys talking about 240 *mhz* TVs are just as hilarious as HHG himself...

[PS3PWNSALL]

240 MHZ Blackbuster?!? LOLOLOL Explain YOURSELF!

[RevXM]

I wouldn't have a 240 milli Hertz tv ever... its like a frame every five seconds LOL.
A 240Hz is much better.

Stop mixing MEGA with milli, and Computer clock speeds with frames genenerated each second...
I know Im nit picking.
____________

I have a 42" panasonic plasma 600Hz screen. I love it.
There is no picture distortion what so ever.
It looks sharp and good all the time, it takes the games to their full but it also makes it easier to notice flaws in games like stuttering when the fps in the game drops and similar.

Only thing that isnt top notch about it the blacks, they are not entirely black even at night with curtains down and all lights off. also makes a less noticeable high frequence noice sometimes depending on the picture, brighness and colours play in.

Cant wait for AMOLED tv's... :L

But as for HHG he is making himself look bad, but he is on to something though.

[aPerson]

HipHopGamer, I am saddened by your level of stupidity.

[Lionalliance]

After he told about the Kratos being in MK9...
I'm really considering listening to him now.

[SixZeroFour]

i keep an open ear to his "leaks" but disregard his "hypes"

[scar20]

Wow so many haters.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

LISTEN UP EVERYONE say what you want, tell me all the specs on paper, but until you go home and set your TV up right with 240hz if you have one then you can't say anything.

Go to best buy and look at a 240hz tv running a blu-ray disc then imagine that fidelity on your videogames.

PLEASE stop hating and realize what you guys are missing because now that I have one it's OVER trust me.

if not then oh well ya'll just miss out but I'm having fun on another gaming level at the moment

[Vegeta9000]

This brings me to my next point...

Don't. Smoke. Crack.

[Hoje0308]

Pure awesome! I like how he continues to hang on to the same tired argument even though others respond with these little things called facts. The so-called evidence HHG keeps reaching for is purely anecdotal. Yet another fail from the guy who is the sole reason I rarely visit this site on Sundays.

[one2thr]

@Vegeta
Nothin against hiphopgamer, but that shit's hilarious lol

[OneSneakyMofo]

Read up, HHG. :)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1...

[aPerson]

@OneSneakyMofo

That s*** is gonna blow HHG's mind, (yo).

I'm predicting a future "news" article published by HHG that goes something along the lines of;

"YO LISTEN UP! 240HZ DREAMCAST IS INSANE! SAY GOODBYE TO YO PS3, COZ THE FUTURE IS DREAMCAST!"

[TruthBTold]

Lol, this is your son, this is your son on drugs and video games. Any questions?

[-Alpha]

What's over? What on earth are you talking about?

The people calling you out are up there ^ HHG, go face them instead of selling us your propaganda. Like Dude below says you aren't the only one with access to a store, you haven't discovered any revelation like you seem to think you do.

They seem to present a valid complaint, why not address it instead of just calling everybody haters? Oh right, because it's much easier to do that then to back yourself up

[TruthBTold]

I just came to the conclusion that HHG must be high when he does these stupid videos. I can only imagine when he first heard a top of the line surround sound "yo son, is like some one is talking directly in your ear with all these crazy sounds son". It's sad that a journalist isn't able to do anything other than type fiction as fact just for getting attention even though the attention is all negative from people calling out for such absurd claims.

[scar20]

Hiphop don't even bother listening majority of the people here have no education and respect for other people.

[Vesemir]

I'm seeing that. It is shameful.

[Hoje0308]

@scar20
Nice grammar, care to hear a story about a teapot and a kettle?

[RedDead]

Your absolutly right, but it's still fu**ing hilarious, fact is most people act this way. It's just to funny though. Still though HIphop is Wrong. Simple as that, if he doesn't want this kind of treatment then he can stop spewing bullshi* from his mouth.

[vickers500]

Lmao, this from the guy who goes to almost every Black Ops article and insults the people who still buy and like the franchise and calls them sheep for liking a game? Yeah, real respectful right there. /s

You are such a hypocrite. And you're not very smart either, so before you talk about other people not having an education, maybe you should get one for yourself first.

[Baka-akaB]

Again not saying it aint great but ...

The signal going into the TV is still, and always will be, the same exact framerate you get anywhere else. These 240hz screens actually apply some special smoothing algorithm to the signal to make the image and motion look "better" than a conventional TV combined wih the great properties of LED and new plasma , but the signal going into the TV is exactly the same as what you will have on any HDTV .

AT LEAST UNTIL A 240 video SOURCE APPEARS

[xAlmostPro]

you guys are hating on him, when you lot don't even know either..

YES the game has its locked Fps.. well done detectives..

But a TV's refresh rate isn't the same thing, it can NOT and does NOT change the consoles frames per second, but thats not the point..

It having a higer refresh rate can allow it to display and proccess the frames being sent from the console faster, meaning it can actually make games look smoother and in some frame rate heavy games a little better and it can even help reduce the lag from console to tv..

Companies create these high spec TV's for a reason to be the best on the market, why would they all be producing 240+hz tv's if it was so pointless and made no difference to anything? lol.. they wouldn't "lets create a tv that has something nothing can use..yeaahh"

fact is in framerate heavy games or films it can make a seeable difference(nothing out of this world) but its there, the not so high framerate games & films will just look a little bit smoother in terms of the image being processed..

fps & hz are not the same..

[GoldPS3]

I believe you HHG and thanks for getting Kratos on MK. Much love and God bless.

[visualb]

...i doubt he got Kratos on MK =| he just leaked it..

[TruthBTold]

Lol than you must also thank Santa for your Christmas presents.

[SolidSystem]

look man, before you start calling people out, check your own facts. if any thing you are seeing the difference between a well made tv and one not so much.

the game is the same on all monitors. the extra Hz isnt helping the game. or improving the game, heck does the ps3 even support that high of a refresh rate?

you have come to the conclusion it looks better on that monitor what did you have to compare it to? seems like you falsely linked a couple things together.

as always thumbs down for your articles, love the guy who tired of flame bait and made up/wrong 'facts'

[xAlmostPro]

lol solid system.. the console games & films have a set frames per second.. -_-

the refresh rate is a tv specification which is the whole point of this, the higher the TV refresh rate the faster/smoother it can proccess the frames being sent from the console so yes it does make a difference..

[BlackBusterCritic]

@HipHopGamer, how about you actually explain yourself? Just CLARIFY what you mean in these articles you put out. We all KNOW MORE THAN YOU, and just saying that we don't have this or that, doesn't make the FACTS REGARDING 240 MHZ SIGNALS CHANGE. How can you say a game looks better on a 240hz TV, when the game in particular isn't made to support 240hz? There arent even ANY inputs that are 240hz yet! Please, just admit you're wrong.

[nycredude]

Yo Hiphop.

Do you honestly think that you are the only one who has access to a freaking electronic store? Hell go to any SOny Store and you can play the games on a 240mhz tv. No one is saying it doesn't look better. What we are questioning is your freaking title and your reasoning.

[ambientFLIER]

hiphop - perhaps if you tried to get your point across in the video without yo-yo'ing every two seconds, maybe then people would respect you more

[InFAMOUS1]

I don't comment on HHG articles anymore cuz I have said it before and this will be the last time.. HipHopGamer, while putting himself out there, getting into expos and access to stuff I would die to get my hands on, he is still a joke...

I have a 240hz TV, in fact I have access to 3 of them.. One in my gaming room, one at my sister's/bro-in-law and another at my uncle's and I can PROMISE everyone, not just HHG that my PS3 playing GOW3, KZ3 beta or any other freakin game on either my ps3, 360, or wii does NOT looks better.. INFACT most titles look worse... Nothing is over... Some PR guy has hyped you up wayyyyyyy to much for the latest Samsung or Sony 240 3DTV... How you can look at the numbers and suggest they are lying is beyond me, and pretty much everyone else on this site except your minions whom admire your WWE bling! FRAUD

EDIT: On the real??? What do I have to prove to the 'gaming community'? A website? NO PR departments of major gaming publishers like Sony? NO.. Listen SON... I have played UC2, KZ3 beta, MAG, CoD:BO, GOW3, GT5, Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2 etc all on my nice and shiny Sammy 240Hz 3D TV that I bought 4 months ago, which was set up by best buy (which technically don't mean shit) but techs installed it and I payed to have it configured right.. The point is SON, that EVERYONE on here is calling you out, and they are doing that for a reason... 240Hz without a 240Hz feed is like saying Porche will drive like a Porche without a porche engine... You're crazy son, and you need to figure out what it is you want to be in this business... A lap dog for major corporations or a journalist with great inside information through reliable sources exposing games, and frauds as they come forward. Right now the only thing I see, is a dude with a camera, and WWE belt from walmart and grade 4 verbal grammar spewing opinions as fact.. YOU FAIL

[egm_hiphopgamer]

On The Real Infamous your lying, your lying to the gaming community son for real the games look better, some games look better than others but every game i've played showed some improvement, but uncharted 2, vanquish, madden 11 these games are Drastically better in 240hz with the correct settings on your TV

[Zeevious]

YOU actually would claim someone ELSE is lying to the gaming community? How...with one of your made-up exaggerated titles after another?

Oh and in response to "Where's your picture at, make a video...everyone knows who I am" LOL...

What makes you think you matter enough for me to care beyond my beautifully back-lit keyboard? If you missed it, I already replied directly to you, or are you trying to pretend I didn't cause' all that matters is your public face - Or WWF Belt? (lol)

Thinking a picture, video and everybody knowing who you are is what matters just goes to show what you really need...the attention you're generating here!

I've said everything directly to you "Hip" and as I said then...I don't need to say anything else.

Just look in the mirror and say it yourself.

[BlackPrince 42]

@HHG

You're a victim of placebo effect. You're dazzled by your shiny new HDTV and are likely just reacting to a higher quality set, not the increase in hertz.

As many others have said, you can't improve a game's framerate by increasing the quality of your TV. No video game runs at 240hz, heck most barely make 30.

[aGameDeveloper]

I can't believe I'm arguing for HHG, but I have to point out that there IS a minor benefit to playing a game on a 240 Hz monitor in some situations...

If you play a 30 Hz game on a 60 Hz monitor, WITH VSYNC ENABLED, and a game frame takes a bit too long to process, then it will step down to 20 Hz (which divides evenly into 60). On a 240 Hz monitor, the game could step down to 24 Hz without tearing. 24 is pretty much the lowest you can go for most people and still appear smooth (film runs at that rate), so the difference between 20 and 24 will be noticed by most people when it occurs.

HOWEVER, the game developer will have had to account for the possibility of supporting higher rates. If he had simply assumed (rather than querying the monitor) that 60 Hz was the highest monitor refresh available, the game may still step down to 20 Hz. Also, some games or gamers don't support or use VSYNC, or only use it to lock to 30 Hz, in which case there is no real benefit to the faster monitor.

[InFAMOUS1]

I don't think everyone is arguing that there is no benefit but rather that HHG just makes it seem like the 2nd coming of Christ. The guys is talking about how next gen gaming is here with 240Hz TVs. LOL.. Really? 240Hz was introduced for 2 reasons. 1) 3D- Delivering 3D is not an easy task and 240Hz allows for a less blurry and more fluid picture.. 2) MARKETING!! It is just like when HDTV came out.. Everything was 1080p and 720p and then marketing LED TVs so that it appeared to be this NEW tech, but in reality it was just a new light source.. The same thing is here.. 60-120-240Hz is all in question... The reality is this: I can turn on and play KZ2 on my 55" LEDLCD 3DTV and play the same game on my 46" LCD 1080p 60Hz and other then lighting and black levels it is pretty much the exact same game... GRANTED when I play a shooter like CoD that does not have motion blur in place (like KZ2) there is a little less blur! However, is this reason to talk about a 240Hz TV like it is something from the year 2035? NO.. This is a lesson for HHG. The lesson is that he will always be a joke in the gaming business from OUR side, the FANS side. The side that pays the companies that pays him. The other part is that he will ALWAYS be the 30k a year gaming 'journalist' A.K.A Scrub!
We the GAMERS don't like you HHG! We don't like your fake ass show, we don't like your fake ass beats, we don't like your fake ass SELF! You are a dude who cashed in on the fact that a SMALL group of 12-14 yr olds who play video games and listen to hip hop music will watch your lame ass excuse for a 'show'

[Redempteur]

Same response everytime HHG is proved wrong ..

"i've seen it so it must be true even if i didn't understand it ."

well done playing the victim
. if i follow this logic my DS is at 24hz ( and we all know this isn't true )

[Mr Tretton]

HHG, just, stop.

[DavePSU]

I have a Samsung 3DTV 240hz LED setup right now and I've had it since September.

Video games will not display above their intended Hz regardless of what "Setting" you want to put your television on. In fact, a lot of TVs have specific "Game Modes" for this exact reasoning -- to cut down on response time and to make sure your TV is properly set for a gaming experience overall.

I don't respond to any of your articles because they're always full of BS -- but this one is ridiculous.

[Monty_The_Great]

I have to agree with Dave PSU here. I have an LG 55" LED TV and a PS3, and games only get displayed as good as they are made.

[kungfuian]

Here's a relevant question. What were u running ur games on before? Maybe the difference ur seeing is so significant because of the jump (not to say that games won't look good at 240 hz, don't have a 240hz set so?)

Quick question- assuming u'v played all three, what's the best in your opinion in terms of tech/graphics, UC2, GOW3, or KZ3?

[InFAMOUS1]

I jumped from a 46" 1080p 60Hz LCD and the only MAJOR difference is lighting and contrast.... To me the best in terms of graphics would be KZ3... GT5 3D ain't even that 'great'

[Zeevious]

No..YOU listen up.

This is...yet again you confirming for me, everything I have said.

Thank you for that at least.

Oh, and I happen to have a 240hz TV and not only doesn't the sensational headline make sense...again...but what the heck do you mean by your misleading tabloidian "3D Without Glasses Is Here!"

No...it's not. What is here -again- is yet another misleading site-hit title.

I stand by my comments and opinion about you, and apparently so do you, since you keep confirming them with title after headline, after misleading content, after show, after show.

Why do you keep doing this?

Your show could be so much better, and was so much better before what seems like equating hits with quality.

If it helps hear it from another voice that once respected yours -- They are very different things.

[xxsnowmanxx]

I've got a 240Hz Sony Bravia Z series. I think what you're seeing is the motionflow where the TV itself tries to transition images as smoothly as possible which gives it that awesome in motion video... but this has nothing to do with 3D... i was excited when I saw 3D with 240Hz... but it was all a lie

[ironmonkey]

240 hz does make games run faster. film stabilization and clear frame options do that. 240 make games look life like. i have one and will never go back to 120 hz.

[Mmmkay]

games are still not made in 240Hz !!

If your logic was for real, why not get the 600Hz plasmas instead..?

[MasterX]

Yo HHG... Dont worry about the haters... This is n4g...that says it all.. I`ll give 240hz a try before saying anything..

[Vesemir]

Hey stop being an ass with the guy. If he is saying it does looks better, maybe it is because it really does ???

Kids.... I don't have this TV, but I bet it will look better indeed.
It must be like the difference between old sdtv and the hdtv.

We have a new technology now, 240hz Tvs to play games, fuck yeah, I'm excited.

[Ravenor]

No, no, no, no....

Thats how CHILDREN debate, not how adults do it. You know by bringing facts to the table and having a rational discussion about the pro's and con's of the technology.

Oh it's also nothing even approaching the difference between 480P and 720P.

[Vesemir]

Treating people like shit is very adult also, huh ??
If that's your notion of being an adult, I'd rather be a dog.

Actually I'd rather shot myself in the head than being like that.
Luckily, I'm not that rotten on the inside, yet.

I should be careful though. I heard rotten apples can spoil the good ones when they're in the same box.

[Ravenor]

Oh my.

Dear boy, how have I treated anyone poorly? Am I treating you or this HHG character poorly because I'm pointing out that you're wrong? I'm pointing out that a debate or discussion doesn't work like "Well I believe it's true so it's true".

The tech he is citing does not do the things he says it does and it doesn't change the software being run in any real way. He posts it for us all to see, and if he's spouting nonsense I expect him to be called out on it, just like anyone else who says something as dumb as this.

Sorry was I being mean again?

[irepbtown]

My TV is
LG 37 Inch, 200hz, 1080p

Does this mean the 240hz tv will 'destroy' Tvs like mine?

I'm confused.

[MadMax]

I just bought a 120hz LED and it looks insane! From what ive seen and been hearing is that from 60hz to 120hz you notice quite a big difference! From 120hz to 240hz you dont really notice it. The human eye can only follow so fast! It makes games and movies look like theyre in 3D with the 120hz and 240hz feature turned on!

[SolidSystem]

the human eye cant see beyond about 30fps
you can notice that animation looks a bit smoother, but you cant tell the difference really.

movies infact are only at 24fps.

stable framerate >>>>>>> high fps.

[duplissi]

myth.

edit: http://whisper.ausgamers.co...

[Pandamobile]

Where do people hear this bullshit about the human eye not being able to see more than 30 FPS?

We do not see in frames per second.

I can sure as hell tell the difference between 30 and 60 frames per second on a screen.

And the difference between 60 and 120, etc.

[SolidSystem]

@pandora

of course we dont see in frame per second, but there is a threshold for where our eyes physically cant tell the difference. in the real universe time doesnt even exit. its a made up tool.

so like time which is just a relative measurements we can sit people in front of monitors for days doing a study showing them different footages of videos at different FPS, and through observations find the threshold where it no longer matters how many FPS you have on the screen.

they discovered at 24fps our human brain register that as fluid animation, and around 30 anything going beyond that is just unnecessary for our brains to process fluid and complete motion.

if you disagree explain. yes its true we contantly see things, and dont see in FPS, but our brain can fill in the blanks beyond 24fps it just gets smoother, but is accepted by our easy to trick brains as full motion. it does some heavy lifting to fill in the blanks.

@ravenor

amd 3.5quad, ati 5770, 8gbs ram good enough for you?

[Ravenor]

Someone please sit this boy in front of a High end PC and clamp his eyes open until he stops repeating his nonsense.

[aGameDeveloper]

Film can run at 24 fps and looks smoother than a monitor running a game at the same rate for a couple of reasons. One has to do with the differences in the way the images persist, and the other has to do with motion blur being an inherent part of film, which is really expensive to do with a video game image.

Note that I'm a game developer, not an expert on vision, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

[hesido]

@SolidSystem:

If human eye can't notice past 30fps, how come I tell the difference every single time I see a 60fps video feed? There's no set fps for the eye. It's quite more complicated than that. Fooling the eye? 30fps is enough. But can't notice? Hardly.

I can tell a Marlyn Monroe pic in outlines, no color, no shading. It is enough to tell me the image is of Marlyn. However, I notice when there's shading too. Heck, even colour if it's a color photo!

[one2thr]

Yeah I also have a 120hz tv.... Only difference I can see between the two is that most to, all 240hz tv's have at least a 1:1,000,000 contrast ratio.... And trying to watch a live action movie with CG effects is so terrible, because you can actually tell the difference between whats real and whats really really REALLY fake, hell that also happens on my 120hz as well

[MadMax]

Not sure why people are disagreeing with facts! Pretty comical if anything. Most of these people saying otherwise havent even judged for themselves! Ive done the test first hand and can tell you skeptics out there, youre wrong!!!

[Hell-Helghast]

Man so many people didn't get enough parenting when they were growing up.

@Vegeta9000 Dude that's immature and another thing you think your tough hiding behind a computer screen i bet you wouldn't have the balls to say that to his face.

[Pandamobile]

Why do you say that? If I ever met Hip Hop Gamer in real life, I would so call him on his bullshit.

What the hell is he going to do, shank me?

[SKUD]

pffft, fo REAL DOH. lunch line pelican bay style son. C block OUT!.

[menoyou]

People like him hide behind the sissy politicians and the government because otherwise intelligent people would have gotten rid of them by now. So who really has no balls?

[Baka-akaB]

Personally if he was behaving the same way and rehashing the same stuff he did this whole page , while ignoring every facts and infos given so far , i think i'd just insult him on the spot , leave him be , and waste far less time than on comments .

[Zeevious]

But are you sure you wouldn't want to hold that
cheap-*** gold-tone plated wrestling belt first?

NO?

Funny...I didn't either.

[Redempteur]

DOes that gold wrestling belt has a magical effect giving the wearer any kind of bonus stat ?

No ? then i don't want it.

[Lirky]

I FELL FOR IT THAT IS ALL.. i dislike how hhg is nothing but spam.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Yo yo yo yo HHG, listen yo, ok, yo so 240HZ is FAKE. It introduces lines that don't exist to make the image seem smoother than it truly is. It probably does help games look a little better as it can make them look a little more "real"

[RyuCloudStrife]

he tells me he only ONCE played it at 240hz he did tell me that everything looks real but also that everything moves at such a high pace that for his eyes it was hard to keep up with... so idk i go to his house tell him to put it at 240hz and he says why? its unplayable cuz the game "moves too fast"... thats all i know...

ILL SOON GET ME A 600hz tv so lets see then

[Kingscorpion1981]

Any news on Syphon Filter Hip Hop???

[duplissi]

holy crap... i actually agree with hhg for once... (at least partially)

yeah your playing a 30 fps on a 240 hz tv doesnt make it 240fps... but thats not the point. a 240hz tv has an incredibly low response time so fast moving images will look a bit more crisp, also its more about the frame interpolation than anything read:frame interpolation makes anything in motion soo incredibly lifelike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
one caveat: frame interpolation may look fantastic (it really really does) but it does add to the response time of the tv because it is a post processing effect so in a fps where response time is everything i wouldnt recommend it.

[SolidSystem]

response time isnt connected to HZ that i know of. my 60hz monitor has the fastest reponse time that i know in the monitor industry with a 2ms grey to grey.

i could be wrong, and if so a link would be nice so i can educate myself.

[duplissi]

its not directly, but a tv with a high pixel fill rate obviously wont be capable of really high refresh rates.

low (FAST: 2ms or lower) pixel fill rate = higher max refresh rate
high (SLOW: 8ms or higher) pixel fill rate = lower max refresh rate.

edit: fixed, make a little more sense?

[SolidSystem]

that doesnt make any sense. hz just means how many times a second the screen is refreshed, not how long it takes the signal to get there. the delay between when the image happens and is sent to the tv till when that fram is actually shown on the screen is the response time.

you can send 12937123178263 frames a second and have a refresh rate of 1minute if between when those frames were sent and when they are shown was that high.

where the opposite is also true. you can have 240frame and your screen is able to show them 2ms after they arrive you will have a low refresh rate. i dont think they are related in the slightest.

pixel fill rate, the number of pixels the device is able to throw on the screen at a single time?

[duplissi]

well yeah, but thats not what im referring to. perhaps instead of response time i should have said pixel fill rate?

[RBLAZE1988]

It's not that the monitors hz cause the delay but the fact the console is outputting 30hz or fps and if the 60, 120 etc mode is on the tv is adding frames and creating a lower response time (or lag) because it is renderring more frames and trying to guess where to put the frames in between points A and B. A pc game rendered at 120 fps won't have the lag because it's just displaying what the pc is sending it. That's why my ps3 version of mw2 in 120hz mode will have less lag than say killzone 2 because mw2 is at 60 fps and killzone 2 is at 30 fps. Of course killzone 2 looks soooooooooooo good in 120hz mode that i play it like that despite the lag while mw2 is not as good looking and there is barely a difference so it's not worth the lag.

[RBLAZE1988]

I play most single player games on my samsung at 120hz and the difference is incredible. Smoother fps and animation and it enhances image quality and removes film grain. Hell I just watched Inception and it looked fantastic. But for FPS games it adds enormous milliseconds to input lag but any other game makes it look like you're playing the game on a high end PC. HHG isn't totally lying his title just doesn't go with what he's talking about. Uncharted 2 in 120 hz is incredible. It was like experiencing the game for the 1st time again. What these modes do is add extra frames in between a 30 fps game, for example, and make them look like 60 120 240 fps games with v sync on. the problem is some tvs have bad artifacting in fast action intensive scenes. Most of you guys on here don't know what you're talkin about either so stop bustin on the man so much.

[Mustang300C2012]

Talk to your boy to actually educate what he is trying to tell us. Don't get in front of a video am Sesame Street the situation. Actually know WTF your trying to say. Also come the F*ck on it is a flaimbait title on TOP of gibberish inaccurate info. Dude can't even argue his point because every response has been a PR response or we don't know when some of us DO work at Best Buy part time and some of us DO actually have more than one of these displays in our home. I am currently deployed and bought myself a 42" 240hz LED. So yeah this is a problem of his that has been an issue long before he got the display. He has not tech knowledge and has the audacity to try and explain somthing he doesn't bother to educate himself about. We sound like broken records? He sounds like a broken record.

[Baka-akaB]

Movies and TV broadcasts are filmed at 24Hz so the TV has a lot of work to do bringing that up to 240Hz by repeating the frame 10 times every 24th of a second. The speed of the refresh rate alone doesn’t do much to improve the picture quality and reduce motion blur as it just repeats the same frame more times.

Is it worth spending the extra money to go for a 240Hz LCD over a 120Hz one? At the moment not really as the main differences are imperceptible.

Reducing motion blue is done by pre-processing using a scanning backlight or MEMC (Motion Estimation Motion Compensation) rather than speeding things up. The faster TV may score well in things like test patterns, but in real life you won’t really notice the difference. MEMC is a clever way of reducing motion blur by predicting where the image will be in between frames. For example, the TV will take frame 1 and frame 2 and repeat them 5 times per 24th second. But, it will also add its own frame in between 1 and 2 by combining the two frames and using prediction. The idea is to simulate a 48Hz signal into the TV. This is the technology that reduces motion blur.

So, to summarize, a 240Hz TV can produce a slightly better viewing experience than a 60 or 120Hz one. However this is because of the programming technology like MEMC, not the increased speed.
And results varies greatly from movies to games , and even among games . NOTHING will be sending a 240hz signal to your tv.

Basically most of the work is done by improved chips and materials such as better plasma and LED .

I dont advise against buying a 240hz set , heck i got myself a 600hz plasma ... but it shouldnt be the primary concern , far from it , only something extra at some point .

Heck Plasma pixels switch at thousands of times faster than LCD response time. Because of this speed difference, a plasma TV operates different than a LCD TV and, therefore, does not produce the motion blur and jitter produced by a LCD display panel.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Fantastic post and spot on. bubbles+

[swinesucker]

Actually, motion blur is inherent in most material. Try some side by side comparisons on sports and you would hardly be able to tell the difference because LEDs and Plasma really are not that different outside of test patterns. If you are buying a tv for test patterns or something that would be needed for those types of things then maybe it would be important. But for real world material there is no real difference anymore. Just because pixel response is better doesn't mean anything for motion blur in the end. LED's are in the sub 2ms range which isn't plasma good but it's close enough and you should have a hard time if at all noticing a difference.

http://www.displaymate.com/...

It's all hype. Older LCD's sure they did have problems but going from 30ms response time to under 2 has made a gigantic difference even though some of these 2ms tv's actually have worse motion response than expected. Live video is very much different than test patterns. A lot of things come into play and in reality there really is no difference in the tests and more than a couple reputable sources have agreed upon this. Buy your TV for Black levels and color accuracy folks. Those are the two most important things.

[Gohadouken]

There are differences actually ... only that led ldc considerably caught up .

Input lag at least is a good factor (especially for fighting game buffs , like i know he is ) , besides colours to choose a good plasma over some leds .

But i think his point was mostly that marketing use concept like 600hz and 240hz , but inthe end it matter little in the process . And the improvement in quality actually more from other factors such as the quality of the led and plasma tubes , it's software and chips , over some silly frequency thing .

Both arent even that big a jump from 120hz ... and 600hz is marketing jibberish , as plasma dont have the same issues as most lcd , or at least dont deal with it the same way .

[Ponurasky]

Don't that whole 100hz and up business just add more lag in games?

Also I hate how motion is presented by all those enhancers, it feels very strange.

[RBLAZE1988]

If you turn off digital noise and other noise options then it doesn't look as strange and looks a lot better

[Yo Mama]

Jesus people. Everyone is so quick to judge and nay say. HHG isn't claiming that he's seeing NATIVE 240 hz gaming. I'm sure he knows that if a game is made to run natively at 60 hz, that's all you're going to natively get. He's saying that on a 240 hz hdtv, the post processing with MotionFlow turned on makes most games look better. That's not impossible.

[Mustang300C2012]

@Yo Mama

No HHG in the title itself before you get to the video is explaining he see 3D without glasses with Killzone 3. Flaim, Bullsh*t, inaccurate info that he doesn't care to educate or listen to actual documented facts of WTF he is talking about.

[enveijeon]

Wow had to make an account just to comment on this one. Well I seen your other article the other day saying this and I had to see for myself... and as an early Christmas present I luckily go what I wanted a 46 in Bravia 3dtv and i'm not going to exaggerate here WOW IT'S INCREDIBLE beyond what we see in games now, it's the "true motion" that adds frames between frames it really does look almost like a new generation of consoles with the way it moves. It makes the game look like it's running at 100 frames per second and yes the eye can see beyond 30 fps look it up. I couldn't believe my eyes I have the killzone 3 beta psn: pboy08 and he's right it enhances these games considerably... if you guys are having screen problems then it just means you have old tv's. Refresh rate guys c'mon and to the people saying no games are running beyond 60hz... well you're right but it's latency and your tv upscales.... please guys who doubt him do your homework first

[MonopolyRSV]

You know the TV is a beast, give the dude a break. Even if it's not the 240hz refresh rate that is responsible for the visual advance, I believe the difference he claims to notice is real with these new TVs.

[Suicide]

Just stop it HHG.

[K3nji]

High Five!

[Incipio]

lol what a fail at tech reporting.

All a 120 / 240Hz TV does is flash the frames input from the source an extra few times with each refresh, giving the illusion of smoother gameplay or video feedback.

[DiRtY]

Try to connect your SNES / Genesis to a HDTV. Do you have HD-games then?

Or watch VHS on a 3DTV
Or listen to cassettes on a 5.1 system

It is all about the input.

[Mmmkay]

how do i go about blocking HHG "news"? getting tired of this crap.

[herukuti]

ill call my tv sammy like all the samsung products i own; and it has 240 hz too but i have to enable game mode and not use the various different hz enabled graphical distortions unless i want a few ms in lag. point being, if kz3 does not come with support for 240 hz as detected by the ps os the tv will not switch to 240 hz mode. i dont know how the sony is and take your user experience for what it is; but the only effects i have over game content in game mode is changing the contrast brightness and video presentation presets based on brightness and color etc.

in fact because i play games and theres no way on the samsung to preset the system to switch to game mode when the ps3 is on i miss out on the 240 hz functionality most of the time; unless i go through system menus and change the output setting which effects all inputs/output modes.

there are true glassless 3d and there was a recent article about i think tiawan granting a company for the development in this area. as of now there are true glassless 3d in varying methods to achieve 3d. i dont think anyone who adopts 3d when it is glassless will have embraced 3d by then if they havent embraced 3d by then; but games like fallout nv, tumble, codBO and many older games are fun to play in 3d: and draws attention to the 3d model detail done in gaming. i wish my tv did 3d where the effect was extroverted instead of introverted; but i think that has to do with how a producer of 3d effects creates their finished work.

[herukuti]

i also want to say that people who have contention with the content hhg puts on the internet have contention with the person moreso than the content. to me it smells of social structure programming.

on n4g just like within the past week i have seen articles accepted that were double print content articles (various sex themes) and admitted site hit submissions; yet never do people make an issue to express their opinions on these pages about the content submitter.

this is kind of sad because as a gamer; gaming was never really a culture that was pro homo. now it seems guys who would use a pc in my day and not have enough friends to play goldeneye after the highschool bell rung are valid gaming editors at big name sites who speak with lisps and infiltrate the gaming culture forcing you young people to think its cool to call someone in halo a f@g at 13 years young.

i honestly wouldnt continue to be a editor like hhg is and i commend him for being different amongst the changes gaming is undertaking because of the addition of people who had a desire to be invited to a gaming session growing up but were just lame enough to flame his content submissions now.

[Mustang300C2012]

LOL that is just it. Everything you just said about glassless 3D is pretty much on point. Go to TITLE of this article and then watch the video to try and get WTF is he talking about? He took a "OMG this tv is amazing" to somehow come up with this tv is 3D without glasses. If you haven't already why not actually look at his past work over the past 2 years and you will see this is the same sh*t over and over. This is the same guy who claims regardless of FACTS that have been provided on the Warzone, his site and this site that he BELIEVES without a doubt that he can turn his 480p EDTV display and SEE a 720p picture. This was a 1 1/2 ago and nothing has changed. Look at his reponse here and in past articles he has responded about.

"oh you hating" Redgardless that facts are provided to him and linked, read and reverified. Nope your just hating

"PR comment response" Like I said look at his comments.

"Flaimbate titles" What does glassless 3d have to do with HIS LED 240hz display he just bought? I could understand if that was the case(you know since the title has 3D glassless in it) but it is generated for hits.

"Uneducated" I don't mean no high school diploma or college degree. What I mean is actually RESEARCH, LEARN, TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN, FACTS, FACTS, FACTS, and draw a CONCLUSION to your findings. This is the main issue I MYSELF have with the self-proclaimed number 1 journalist which he is not. Because even for him to call himself a journalist you would need to have the very fundamental things I mentioned which he has clearly NOT cared to do for himself to better himself. He relies on fanboys and not taking any person who actually wants to see him furthur himself advice on these very things that have been pointed out. So yes you can say it is the person because again you want to claim your the best but your work shows otherwise.

[Neko_Mega]

Great -_- just got a 40inch 120hz tv, now I need new led tv.

Oh well.

[KillerPwned]

Wow i thought HHG at least knew a little here and their about games. But man i was wrong big time this guy does not know jack. It just makes no sense how a TV could make a game run nicer without the proper hardware that is running the software and then if their was a 240Hz Signal or something like it.

HHG you just shot yourself down a major peg even more. You really should think things through before posting crap like this on the internet. Because i am sure we are not the only people on a site like this saying things similar to this.

Btw i have played on a 240hz TV a lot including KZ3 and i messed around with it played some games. It does not change anything at all...

[SSIDEUP]

This is some of the worst "journalism" I've ever had the misfortune to read. What I thought might be an interesting article, turned out to be nothing more than some truly sad, uninformed raving that is, for all intents and purposes, not even correct. I suggest that the writer check the facts on the technology before spewing this sort of not relevant nonsense.

And get an editor or proof your work. I've ranted about poor writing on game sites before, but you, sir, need some kind of editing. I like your edge, honestly, but the presentation is rough around the edges...

[clrlite]

KZ3 is probably about 30 FPS, but I think you a 120hz+ TV to play it in 3D. Hmm, now why would I want to use so many cycles per second to play a game with a substantially lower framerate?(the game is absolutely stunning by the way)

"The reason that you need at least 50-60 frames per second per eye is simple, any lower and you will see flicker. At 24 or 25 frames per second per eye, well it would look very choppy. And to not confuse things, you can watch blu ray movies that are 1080p at 24 frames per second, but the screen is usually refreshing at a multiple of that 24 like 72 or 96hz so as not to introduce artifacts."

This appears to be the consensus among people who know wtf they are talking about.

LoL@ the some of the hateful comments toward HHG. Why so angy?

Edit:
"A 120Hz 2D TV actually shows each frame 4 times remember too that for the USA a 3:2 pull down is used to make 24 frames per second be 30 frames per second by a complex process."

[YOUR-MUM]

I have a 600hz tv. Does that mean I'm running double 3d lol.

[cruckel]

I couldn't last 15 seconds in the video. Hope it didn't have anything important in it.

[Chromer]

I don't know why HHG even wastes his time pandering to you buffoons.

[Mustang300C2012]

How about helping your boy out with his inaccurate info then. Thanks for responding sheep. That is pretty accurate to what his followers have to say. Don't bother arguing facts some of us actually provide to his inaccurate info. Please share with us what he is actually correct about?

[Bolts]

This is the problem with being a freelancer. There's no support system to mitigate your stupidity from spewing all over the Internet. Anyone with basic understanding of display technology would realize that HHG clearly has no idea WTF he's talking about. The vast majority of these 240Hz TVs are not really 240Hz just like how you can't buy a real LED TV. It's simply isn't the major leap in technology that it's billed to be. Thats just marketing gimmick like dynamic contrast ratios.

Someone please educate this dumbass before he goes on a rant about how the extra yellow color spectrum in Sharp TVs makes a huge difference. It seems he just went from a fish bowl TV to a Sony HX800 and now he thinks 240Hz is the mutherfuckingbomb LOL!

[XTerminator]

You guys are in for an ownage when more folks will have such TV's and it'll become a fact that games look better on them. I have a nice 100hz 1080p HDTV and lately played on 240hz at a shop and boy did it look good. HHG is right and must be laughing his ass off about you little smartypants.

[Nicaragua]

dude, your a chump. Many people (myself included) already have plasma TV's at 600 hz so according to HHG's ridiculous claim then my TV must be nearly 2.5 times better than his paltry 240hz.

His entire video is his just him wanking over the fact he bought a new TV and him regurgitating the nonsensical marketing speel then he got fed by the salesman.

Its tragic.

[Bolts]

No good will ever come from defending HHG when its freaking clear that he himself has no idea WTF he's talking about. His understanding of display technology is so pathetic that debating it will only bring you down to his level of incompetence.

My advice to HHG is drop this stupid 240Hz rant right now and never speak of it again and hope that the gaming community will forget about it.

[distorted_reality]

Wow.

How he continues to get worse is totally beyond my comprehension. Pretty sure the scientific community should be chatting to HHG about how quickly his brain is degrading.

[dorron]

HHG should be banned forever form n4g.

[distorted_reality]

Hey yo, he can look at 3d with his own eyes, without glasses!

So can everyone else who isn't blind.

Also - PLEASE get a new mic. The audio quality of this is terrible.

[media73]

yo..... yeah.... Hoody up.

Who made this retard somebody? for real.

Waste of time, next.

[TheMART]

Lolol

FlipFlopFlamer has a new dumb video.
Can't we just get a vid with a baboon from the zoo jumping up and down, it would make more sense on N4G than this primate!

[tudors]

3D without glasses.

[BabyTownFrolics]

I would love to see a game utilize that

[jimmins]

Everything this guy has just said is wrong.

Way to go, journalist.

[DoomeDx]

'Journalist'

[swinesucker]

Lol at removing film grain. Uhh, sorry to tell you this but that grain in baked in the negative dude. Anything removing that is removing detail little by little. DNR is NOT good for film.

Interpolating frames works well on VERY LITTLE MATERIAL. If your game is at 30 FPS with tons of blur it may help. With a game like warhawk it might seem to help but in reality it just makes things look way too smooth. It looks okay but as soon you hit 60fps games there is no need at ALL, NONE, NEVER!, for any type of motion estimation. Seriously, people, shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you are talking about.

As for all the motion blur and response people Plasma and LCD's have been shown in real world tests to have the SAME motion response. Test patterns are not what you see in real life in 99% of what you watch for view. Buy your tv for black levels and color accuracy and contrast. These ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. The end.

http://www.displaymate.com/...

[jimmins]

So you don't have to watch the video:

"I just got a new TV. It's quite good. I don't know anything about technology. Can I have my pudding now?"

[Nicaragua]

LOL, thats pretty much spot on.

[Azfargh]

Guys guys...

He means "MOTION FLOW". It gives the ilusion of 60fps because of the compesation of some frames and motion blur effect... it´s not perfect yet, but my AVATAR bluray showed off significant change from my 60hz Samsung Monitor to a Panasonic 240hz...

Believe me guys, it´s no bullpoop... is real deal. Imagine Killzone 2 in 60 fps... almost a COD speed.

well, I´ll wait for a more mature technology of high hertz... these now still too buggy for me.

[ChickeyCantor]

I can understand that with 240hz the timing of filtering the 3D to one eye to the other could be smoother...but you still need some layer that blocks content for each eye on every tick right?

[Cherchez La Ghost]

I have a 240 LED Samsung. Gaming on all three systems on it, there is a little diffrence. Not much, but some. And what you're seeing now HHG is nothing new. Blu Ray in 240hz is beautiful! DVD's look real good, but the games are somewhat the same.

[sway__z]

I read some of the comments on this page. It's clear to me that almost everyone is HATING on HHG. So what if he (maybe) wrong or is inaccurate, what do you want to do... jail him? Go make your own website/videos and let's see how you handle all the hate/negativity. I have watched a few HHG's shows, and it appears to me he's just a guy very enthusiastic about video games. At least he's bringing something new to the table, it should be applauded when somebody is trying to reach out to a whole new gaming demographic. New tech TVs do improve audio/visuals..or what's the point if it didn't? YOU HAVE A CHOICE, LIKE SWITCHING TV CHANNELS...GO WATCH SOMETHING ELSE!!

[Hayabusa 117]

The problem is that he uses such over extravagant and ridiculous claims in his headlines just to get your attention. When I saw the title, I thought I was going to see 3D footage of Killzone coming through my laptop!

Now, had I know before hand that this was HHG, I would've ignored the title, not bothered to click on the video and disregard the article completely.

Anyone can set up a news website. And anyone can come up with ridiculous headlines. That's exactly why we hate HHG, any idiot can do that, but most people have enough self-esteem to not bother doing what he does.

[Hayabusa 117]

Arrgh! FFS!Shut up Hip Hop Gamer! Can you ever open your mouth without garbage coming out?!

[chewmystink]

Can't believe people still even click on this tool, seriously.
He never knows what he is talking about, now your giving him hits for some fantasy about TV technology...
Which he also has no idea about, pffff up sampled refresh on a TV not even true Hz rating and he thinks it makes it look better. Get a clue HipHopelessGamer hahahahahahah
back to the interwebs!!!

[visualb]

wow...what a STUPID ARTICLE.

[Strongmad]

With every "article" HHG makes the world a little dumber.

[WitWolfy]

God you guys are hating trolls, maybe his right who knows. I only got a decent 42" LCD 60HZ but some of my mates also claim that with their 120HZ TV's games look a bit better. I'll have to go test this out myself...

And funny enough Ive read through about 30 posts minimum where idiots confuse HZ with FPS. Get with the system guys seriously.

[AnchorMan]

While your in your kitchen doing real gaming journalism make me a hot pocket

[gamerdude132]

I'm not the only person who came in, saw the "hiphopgamer" red text in the video box, and thought that all credibility had already been lost, am I?

[dirthurts]

So this theory here is irrelevant.

[SpinalRemains138]

Yeah 240 Hz televisions are definitely awesome! Anyone who's got some spare change should pick one up. Blu-Ray movies are the best on it, and games DO run better. This isn't about specs on a sheet neccessarily. I play on one, and the verdict is YES IT IS AWESOME and BETTER than 60 Hz.

[34543534798]

"3D Without Glasses Is Here! 240hz Killzone 3"
what a load of bull

[Allowen]

Yep, as an exemple picture distorcion in a Led TV 120Hz is quite lower then a Led with 60hertz.

Not sure how much better a 240hetz TV will be when compared with a 120hz but I bet it will help even more.

A 30 frames per second game is one thing and 120hz/240hz is other completely different but more hertz helps with better animation in games since we will see less distorcion on the screen.

You don't need a 3D/240hz TV just to play and watch things in 3D.

The normal image of the HD channels you see on your cable tv will look better .
I just did not test it for my self if from 120-240hz (2d ) will make a huge difference as the 60-120hz tv did for me.

[JUDALATION]

COME ON HHG YOU ARE NOT FOR REAL????? 240HZ IS NOTTTTT 33333 DDDDDDD!!!!

[egm_hiphopgamer]

never said it was 3D all i'm saying is that it looks 3D without the need for glasses because it's that clear, rich , and sticks out as if the action is coming out the screen

[sdtarm]

Wow this comment just summons up how ignorant and stpid you are "son"

[Bolts]

Lets get to brass tacks Hips. What TV do you own? I'm betting its a Sony HX800 series amirite?

[Zeevious]

Bull**** 'Hip'

YOU SAID "3D Without Glasses Is Here!"
Another lame tabloid site-hit-for-the-ad-cash title?

"Never said it was 3D" Well then what DID you just say When you said it was 3D WITHOUT GLASSES?

You prove every opinion I've ever expressed with these titles.

"3D Without Glasses Is Here!" but you didn't say it was 3D - RIIIiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhhht ttttttt ! ! !

The irony... No one but you has to do anything -- You are your own self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Prcko]

killzone 3 gonna ownnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[juanvan]

I hate hiphopgamer.com they show you nothing and prove why some ppl should be on birth control FOREVER!!

Can't wait to see KZ3 Hoping the Multi-player is better then Halo: Reach

[Organization XII]

lol, noobs

[JustV]

This is a joke right? This guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about..I could write a whole essay about how much shit this guy is talking right now lol...Standing still and its so crisp clear because of a 240hz...hahaha...does he even know what 240hz is? There is a reason its called motionflow haha..

[Masterchef2007]

i hope its true

[Trevor122]

I was looking for a Killzone 3D video and I find some hip-hopper speaking for about 4 minutes. What the fuck?

[mfwahwah]

Unskippable Katy Perry advertisement?

Looks like I'll never know what that video has to say.

[Pledius]

3D without glasses in 240Hz is BULLSHIT. But HHG is RIGHT about playing video games from 120Hz,240Hz or w/e does make gaming experience "smoother". He says better but it all works out same since if the game plays smoother it does contribute to better experience.

Hz and FPS is different thing people. I have 60inch 60Hz and 42inch 120Hz and when I play my games, you can see the the difference in smoothness. It's a lot easier to tell if you try to watch movie. If you have 2 TV with different Hz then please try it by watching movie first because then even the idiots can tell the difference.

and no it doesn't distort the image or w/e; if you really have that problem then it's at the devs end for screwing it up. So far all the games I have tried(mostly PS3 exclusives)I didn't see any problem except the smoothness of the game

People can say whatever they want. Only ones who will ever know is people who actually tried it in 2 seperate TVs w/ diffferent Hz

[Big_Dom]

I've never heard so much bollocks come out of one persons mouth. 3d without 3d technology? Do one, you muppet. A faster refresh rate does not equal true 3d.

[artsaber]

His articles sure do stir up some shyt on this site. You guys are going bananas over this. The added hate for Killzone just inflames things further.

I will say this: I don't own a 240hz set yet (plan to in the near future). But there is a big difference in the way your eyes translate the motion due to the refresh rate differences. I try to think of it similar to a camera shutter speed... the faster the refresh rate the smoother the motion in visual translation. I have no doubt a 240hz set looks miles better than a 60hz, I mean come on people, these refresh rates are the NEW selling point for these sets, it used to be contrast ratio, now the hottest thing is refresh rates in LCDs.

[altimako02]

the reason refresh rates on lcd is high is because lcd tech is slow so they have to increase refresh to compensate for the slow display tech. dlp is much faster

[ballsofsteel]

i got a 240 hz TV right now and it does improve the fluidity of a image a bit but i wouldn't say it makes THAT much of a difference. the problems is that most content isn't really created to be displayed at 240Hz so sometimes it looks alittle weird. i remember some game i was playing. i think uncharted 2 and the entire game looks kinda you pressed that fast forward button. it hard to describe but all the movement seemed too quick.

[clrlite]

Balls of steel. I have a samsung LED 3dtv. There's a "game mode" setting if i press the menue button and scroll down. Maybe your TV has a similar feature that will make your gaming experience smoother

I think the games look better on my TV with the "game mode" turned off though. (I could be wrong here though)

HHG's claim seems to be a bit of an exaggeration. However, playing games on this TV blows many other experiences i've had out of the water. I was staring in awe at some parts of UC2 and GOW3. (although this may have more to do with the contrast ratio and quality of the screen than the screens refresh rate)

BTW: Yes, Hz(CYCLES per second) is different from FPS(frames per second. HENCE the two different acronyms.

Edit: Here's an explanation I found ballsofsteel:
"120hz is divisible by both 24 and 60, so it eliminates the need for 3:2 pulldown and is supposed to make motion look more natural. To my understanding though there is still some extrapolation of information that, right now, is not perfected, which leads to the odd "fast forward" look of some things on 120hz sets" - maybe that can apply to 240hz sets as well. I don't know if you tried tweaking your settings yet though.

[ballsofsteel]

i have a sony bravia i don't know what it is but in the game mode setting it looks it seems as though they just turn everything darker and and less contrast so i keep it on general. i did a little research on my tv and new sony bravia have some tech called motionflow the make the images flow with more fluidity. supposedly it mainly effective for video games and sports. the fast forward effect i'm talking about is nicknamed the soap opera effect as it makes movements on screen to appear fast or overly dramatic like in soap operas. the funny think is uncharted 2 has this problem but God of war 3 looks BEAUTIFUL with the same setting. i think is has to do more with some setting of the actual content because i remember watching Up with these setting and it looked just like uncharted 2 with the soap opera effect but i recently watched Toy story 3(both on blu ray btw) with motionflow on and it looked just fine. and considering their both made by pixar i'm assuming they must have changed something on the blu ray

[writersblock]

Holy crap, the advertisement at the start was so fucking long I didnt even watch the video

[Bebedora]

When I hit the link to here, at the same time I came to the conclusion this is HHG stuff...

The hit-maker (clicks) is back! More baddazz than before!

[DoucheVader]

I have a 600Hz television. That has nothing to do with 3D without glasses.

It hurts my brain to hear HipHop talk technical. He really doesn't have a clue about hardware and system architectures.

Lap it up numskulls.

[Ascalon94]

haha i knew this had ot be hiphop gamer

[Darth_Bane79]

NOOOOOOOO!!!! I got Rick rolled by Hip Hop Gamer again!!! ARRRRGH!!!

[clrlite]

I was just looking around in the settings for my tv under Menu>Picture>Picture options>Auto Motion Plus> and It seems I can alter the Blur Reduction, Judder reduction under cutom. Also, there are options for standard, smooth, clear, demo, or you can turn it off all together.

-yes, in "game mode" everything does seem a bit darker, not as pretty, etc. on my tv as well. Did you try all these settings and still get the same effect in uncharted?
I haven't given it much though, but maybe because the framerate in uncharted is lower than GOW3, the chip in the TV might have to interpolate more info at such a high refresh rate.

Yeah, it seems there is a disparity between the content and how your tv is set to manufacture the content. You can probably tweak the settings depending on what your displaying, or maybe there's a setting so it will do it automatically.

[Eddy223]

HHGS should stop being approved on this site for articles,
theyre stuff is just always not good

[altimako02]

hhg is a 240 percent nigga

[9thGenHero]

What's good everyone, I also was blessed to have a new tv this past Black Friday, 46" Bravia Engine 3 3DTV...without the 3D already the picture looks almost on par as BluRay in terms of clarity, and the Motionflow has affected not only my TV/Movie viewing experience, but especially my GAMING experience.

Now, tech talk aside, I'm no expert at this technology, so I went straight to the source and spoke to a Sony tech support staff person. You guys can take their word with a grain of salt if you want, but this is what was confirmed, and something I can vouch for from my first hand experience. The Sony rep told me that a TV possessing 240Hz refresh rate WITH Motionflow tech, will improve the picture quality of a game regardless of a game's framerate.

I then asked, how? The rep told me that games with fast moving scenes/animation will be smoother, and scenes that normally contain choppiness or screen tearing on a lower Hz screen would be smoother. They said this was only possible with a TV with a higher Hz, and they were bold enough to say that comparing 60Hz to 120Hz to 240Hz is like comparing PS1 to PS2 to PS3 in terms of smoothness and clarity. Now I don't have the tech knowledge nor experience with other TV models to boast that last statement, but I can tell you guys, seriously these new MotionFlow TV's are on some other level of clarity.

If you can afford it, cop it because it's gamer's paradise to own one of these new TVs

[altimako02]

just play multiplayer and you will get owned. they are not 240hz , they have frame interpolation which means that your tv processes the video signal frame 1 and frame 2 and then adds what the tv thinks should be in between these 2 frames , which is video processing and slowes down what is displayed on screen in real time.

[9thGenHero]

Are you referring to the 3D? I have yet to experience multiplayer in 3D, I'll check that out and see what happens.

[Honky Kong]

hip hop gamer is a clown.... i cant tell if he is putting on an act as a thug or as a game informant. He is trapped in Wack limbo.