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What The Hell Happened To Killzone?

Are we ever going to see more of what was once one of Sony’s premier franchises?

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_SilverHawk_1902d ago

Hopefully Sony makes more killzone akin to killzone 2. I really like the darker tone

porkChop1902d ago

I agree. But cut down on the F bombs. I have no issue with swearing as I swear all the time, but KZ2 threw out F bombs like every 2 seconds. Sometimes 2 or 3 times in one sentence. It honestly felt forced and awkward. The game itself was great though. Loved the art style.

I'd really like to play from the other side though. From reading the lore the Helghast actually seem to be the "good" guys, or the oppressed. It would be nice to switch things up.

Bleucrunch1901d ago

that is a rather specific gripe...the game is set in war times between feuding worlds and folks are getting killed. I think its as real as can be for the circumstances, you would cuss too if you had bullets and grenades coming your way from all different directions. Definitely wouldn't be concerned about PC wording......

chris2351901d ago

never ever play bulletstorm then

Sunny_D1901d ago

I think it was less being offensive and more just saying it at the wrong times. The dialog wasn’t the best from Rico.

WickedLester1901d ago

I agree with this. I actually started noticing it in part 3. Like you, I have no problem with 4-letter words. But too much of it starts to get distracting after a while.

Hungryalpaca1901d ago

Go watch any footage with soldiers in combat. The f bomb is dropped more than actual bombs.

nucky641901d ago

i've never been in one, but i imagine war will bring out the swear words a little more often than in peacetime.

Sciurus_vulgaris1901d ago

I personally enjoyed the campaigns of Killzone 2 & 3. I personally don’t like the ISA characters due to their voice acting and I very strongly dislike the character of Rico. As I didn’t enjoy shadowfall too much and found it too be a step back from 2 &3. If their is another Killzone game, I would perfer playing the campaign from the Helghast perspective.

porkChop1901d ago

@Bleucrunch

"Definitely wouldn't be concerned about PC wording...."

When did I ever say it needed to be PC? I'm fine with profanity, that's not a problem. I'm talking about how it was almost literally every other word. It was cringey and awkward.

I'm not saying to make the game PG or anything, I just hope they take the writing more seriously. It felt like it was written by a 12 year old who just learned how to swear.

Christopher1901d ago (Edited 1901d ago )

***I think its as real as can be for the circumstances, you would cuss too if you had bullets and grenades coming your way from all different directions. ***

I don't play games to experience realism, but to enjoy them and the atmosphere. I prefer not to have my game cursing at me. It's not like most war movies depict people cursing throughout.

***Go watch any footage with soldiers in combat. The f bomb is dropped more than actual bombs.***

They also don't have save points for restarting after dying. How is this an argument "for" anymore than the opinion that someone wants less of it in a video game?

rainslacker1901d ago

F THAT! the more the.better I say😁

Dirtnapstor1900d ago (Edited 1900d ago )

I agree with porkChop in that a continuous run of expletives gets old and ridiculous. Yes, it could be something warranted contextually, but generally, are writers unable to come up with better dialogue?
In the real world, how one carries him/herself reflects a degree of intelligence. This shouldn’t necessarily get lost in narrative scripting....unless you’re writing a part for a blithering idiot.

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feenix-51900d ago

I 100% agree, while yes in a war time environment F-Bombs would be a regular thing, KZ2 shot them off like a 3rd grader that just learned a new swear word

yeahokwhatever1900d ago

I wish games would let you turn off bad language.

UltraNova1900d ago

Well if the only gripe you guys can come up with about KZ2 is the swearing then its a testament on how frickin good the game was.

Shooting was excellent, atmosphere was beyond impressive at the time, story was decent (for a Killzone game) and the visuals...man those sweet pixels...I was floored the whole ride. I've played it on hard from the get go and let me tell you I had a blast. The only other shooter I enjoyed so darn much was Black on ps2 and Halo Combat Evolved. Yes to this day K2 is the best fps I've played. It was right up my alley, heavy, dark and unapologetic.

These days Guerilla Games has demonstrated chops to reboot this IP and take it to the next level. But it has to be inline with K2's atmosphere and general gameplay feeling.

Until then a Killzone trilogy remake should suffice.

KillBill1900d ago

When I cam back home the first time in a long time after being in the military my mother commented that my language became nothing but F bombs. Simply did not realize it myself but the things you pick-up in the military usually start with such language.

Knushwood Butt1900d ago

Actually agree. Annoying characters dropping f bombs is not cool.

Still, aside from that, I loved KZ2 and 3. The PS4 game was a bit clinical, but I really should play through it again sometime.

Kratos_Kart20071900d ago

Dude...War isn't cute and cuddly....

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THEDON82z11901d ago

I want a Helghan vs Chimera crossover for PS5. I think the Helghan attitude towards war would make a perfect story. It could be allot like the Battle for Stalingrad but drawn out into a crazy story.

porkChop1901d ago

Hmm. That could be really cool if done right.

1-pwnsause-11900d ago (Edited 1900d ago )

That’s how people speak in the military lol, so it makes sense

fr0sty1900d ago

Horizon came out and proved GG could make a game with real depth.

KillZallthebeast1900d ago

Well the game is essentially space Nazi's so the darker tone just worked better

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TiredandRetired1902d ago

With the huge success of Horizon Zero Dawn, the studio was meant to expand from then, around 250 employees to around 400. They were supposed to move into a new studio space as well. I haven't kept up with it since that news, so I don't know if those numbers were achieved. But if so, it's possible that they've adopted a 2 active project pipeline. We'll see.

I do believe Killzone deserves another chance. Shadow Fall's execution was meh, but like your article says, it was beautiful, even by today's standards. (hence why Horizon and Kojima's Death Stranding went on to use the Decima engine), and most importantly to me, the multiplayer was still really well done for its time. While not as weighty as Killzone 2, Killzone Shadow Fall still has a nice weight to it that other shooters don't have. It's a nice break from super fast, twitch shooters. I actually see more people working together because of that and not going rogue. I also liked the drones and some of the different unit's abilities. The MP maps were nicely done.

I also really loved Mercenaries on the Vita and wouldn't mind a more fleshed out version of that on a console sequel, or probably a side-story project.

I want to see both a new Killzone and a new Horizon game. Guerrilla has something nice on its hands with Killzone, despite its stumbles and could knock it out of the park if they go back to the series with new passion. Horizon's lore was amazing for me, so they DO have capable writers. I think a lot of Shadow Fall's campaign shortcomings may have been because of pressure to release as a launch title. The pacing was all off and just felt weird at times. Other moments, it started to feel pretty good, so it was pretty inconsistent. Let the next one simmer in production a bit longer, don't rush it and hopefully we'll see Killzone hit new heights. The studio is certainly talented enough for it.

_SilverHawk_1902d ago

So you're a fanboy? A fanboy of a good game. I thought the vita version was amazing and reminded me of killzone 2. I wouldn't mind a PSVR version of killzone 2. 16 vs 16 in radec academy.

TiredandRetired1901d ago (Edited 1901d ago )

A fan, a pretty big fan maybe, but not a fanboy. I think fanboyism is to blindly praise "X" like a Sun God worshipper, never questioning or admitting faults. I game on all platforms, have my preferences of course, but I'll be quick to tell you when one of them makes a misstep. I'll always just be a fan of games first and foremost.

I didn't like the first Killzone at all, at least from what I can remember way back on PS2. Loved Killzone 2, still own it. Killzone 3 felt like it was a financial necessity sequel for the studio. Paint by numbers without the real heart I felt 2 had. I sold it off after beating it. My order of favorites is KZ2 > KZM > KZSF > KZ3 > KZ. I never played Liberation, but always meant to pick it up from PSN to play on my Vita.

But yea, I agree w what you said, KZ Mercenaries was amazing and I like your idea of PSVR, even though I don't own one yet. I'd like to.

UnholyLight1901d ago

Here's hoping a new Killzone might appear next gen. Would definitely convince me to stay within Sony among other reasons like Uncharted! I bought a PS4 this gen explicitly for the exclusives but found myself mostly just playing multiplats on PS4...Was very disappointed that I spent my whole childhood wishing I could play Killzone games and then when PS4 came out expecting a couple Killzone games...and while Shadow Fall was gorgeous and still is...it was a bit of a letdown for me.

pcz1900d ago (Edited 1900d ago )

killzone is a generic fps. all it really had going for it was great graphics. its enjoyable and thrilling in the moment but has no lasting impact.

INMATEofARKHAM1900d ago (Edited 1900d ago )

Honestly, pretty much all of Sony's first party shooters this generation has sucked... Last gen they had failures but at least they tried. MAG, SOCOMs. Warhawk (and Starhawk)

They at least carried over Killzone and Uncharted but, in all honesty, Sony dropped the ball. Those games deserved better MP support. Uncharted in particular. It's a completely unique take on a 3rd person shooter and it could be more than it is... A mode most people ignore or move on from way too soon because Sony never fully invests in it.

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purple1011902d ago

I brought a ps4 for GT Sport.
I will buy a ps5 for Killzone.

They both have this specific feeling you just can't get elsewhere.

bloop1901d ago

Where did you bring your PS4 for GT Sport??

VenomCarnage891900d ago

You'd get the PS5 for Killzone, but you didn't get a PS4 for Killzone? It was a launch title.

PoSTedUP1900d ago

I didnt get a ps4 because of gtsport. Been a gt fan for 24 years and its a damn shame they didnt remaster 6 or had just made gt7.

TheGamingArt1900d ago

Buddy, you’re counting wrong

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slate911902d ago

I was one of those players who were complaining about Killzone 2's movement system. The 'drunken-elephant'. I was naive and didn't realize they created something special and unique. Looking back, Killzone 2 is one of the greatest shooters ever, not only because of the graphics, but because it had its own identity in playstyle and features.
I hope the devs return it to the way it was.

skwidd1901d ago

It's nice to hear but also so sad. The criticism and originality in its mechanics alienated those who didn't see. I loved it so so much. The child no one gave a chance because they couldn't see how special it was. That led to KZ3 and the slow demise.. Hoping they visit it again after seeing how it does have a very hardcore fanbase (from KZ2) that they could go back to those roots, I'm sure these mechanics have been accepted more widely now that players have more appreciation for such nuances. Back then everyone played Halo and COD so KZ2 breaking the mold/standard was not so welcome.

Gardenia1901d ago (Edited 1901d ago )

A while back I was thinking about the Killzone 2 multiplayer days. A very special game and a lot of fun too. I still hear that cool sound when you killed someone. They should bring back the style of Killzone 2, both in gameplay and graphics

Edit: I just watched a view Killzone 2 multiplayer videos, and holy shit that game still looks amazing

MONOLITHICIDE1901d ago

Your comment made me go watch aswell. So much fun. Then BeachHead came out which was my favorite map from one and all is history. Why hasent there been a remaster for this.

kneon1901d ago

If PS5 launches with a KZ2 remaster then I wouldn't need to buy any other games for quite a while. My favorite multi-player FPS by far.

Sophisticated_Chap1900d ago (Edited 1900d ago )

The only problem with KZ2, were the 1 hour and 90 minute match games that people were creating, which got boring after 1/2 hour, but if you quit, you wouldn't get the points you earned from the match. Outside of that, it was one of the best games last gen.

Those few years around KZ2 were the golden years of gaming IMO. You had KZ2, Killzone 3, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Uncharted 2, Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Motorstorm, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, Burnout Paradise, Socom: Confrontation, God of War 3, Heavenly Sword, The Darkness, F.E.A.R., F.E.A.R. 2, Far Cry 2, CoD 4, CoD: WaW, MW2, Battlefield: Bad Company, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Battlefield 1943, GTA4, all within a 3-4 year span.

Gaming has changed so much since then. You just don't see so many great games released in such a short period of time anymore. I miss those days :(

kneon1900d ago

@Sophisticated_Chap

I absolutely loved those 1-2+ hour matches. They could be so intense. And because you're playing against the same people for so long, you each start to learn how the other side tries to approach the game, so you try to counter, and then they counter your counter etc. It's awesome.

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Dirtnapstor1900d ago

It was awesome. The design for the mechanics were unique. You could almost feel the weight of the guns while playing.
Killzone 5 please!

Razzer1901d ago

Which was a massive improvement.

Rimeskeem1900d ago

To Shadowfall, yes

Overall, different types of games so

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro51d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7251d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_51d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga51d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2351d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200051d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin51d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole51d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix51d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198951d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198951d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Killzone wasn’t a Halo killer, but a PS5 remake could come close

The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.

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Vits101d ago

I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.

That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.

_SilverHawk_101d ago

sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.

Cacabunga100d ago

Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..

InUrFoxHole101d ago

??? Halo is doing great right now. I wouldn't mind seeing a kz2 mp rebirth

Cacabunga100d ago

Spawn grenade tactician class my favorite..

darthv72101d ago

I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.

REDGUM101d ago

Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)

Chocoburger101d ago

I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.

That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.

Profchaos101d ago

Cause console wars mostly drove the halo v killzone thing

Eonjay100d ago

And media co.panies like IGN drove the console wars for clicks.

Profchaos100d ago

@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information

ModsDoBetter101d ago

Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.

Zeref101d ago

And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂

DarXyde100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...

Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.

Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.

I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.

Gaming4Life1981100d ago

Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.

I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.

ModsDoBetter100d ago

"Just because you don't play it"

And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.

As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.

I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.

It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.

Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.

DrDoomer101d ago

I'd take Killzone and Resistance over Halo any day.

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer165d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138165d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga164d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem165d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor164d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies164d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim164d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese164d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto164d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09165d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic164d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld164d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie164d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77165d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231163d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein165d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb165d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY163d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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