Top-10 graphic highlights to dethrone Uncharted 2

Until now Uncharted 2 is probably the best looking console games of all time. Videogameszone is showing 10 games to dethrone Uncharted 2 in terms of graphic.

[Quagmire]

Black Ops...? *looks around confused*

seriously? Black Ops? You gotta be fucking joking.

Uncharted 2 did for gaming what Silicon did for Pamela's Boobs. giggity.

[brazilianbumpincher]

any bullshot picture can look better than any game then you see the actual retail game and its completely different

this article is pure flamebait

[Active Reload]

Uncharted 2 is the only game out that I've seen actually look like the bullshots. I would say Gears 2, but some of the locations weren't fully detailed although it too is a gorgeous game. Uncharted 2 is detailed at every inch of the game.

Edit:I just want to state that Rage and Brink are using the same engine. I don't know if that matters to some or not. Or if the article stated this.

[Lombax]

Yeah... On to the next article.

[dinsurya]

Only a PS3 exclusive can dethrone an other PS3 exclusive..

[JoySticksFTW]

The graphics keep getting better and better on a large scale year after year.

I own both 360 and PS3 and think that their capabilities are pretty similar with the PS3 having atleast a slight edge in the graphics department

But I really believe that the PS3 graphically leaps are due to the 1st and 2nd party devs pooling their talent and discoveries

Maybe I've been missing it, but I don't see many articles about MS or Nintendo devs pooling talent.

EDIT:

"Uncharted 2 is the only game out that I've seen actually look like the bullshots."

Everyone forget the infamous, anti Killzone 2 campaign? Why it could NEVER look as good as the footage shown... oh, wait. Nevermind. It actually looks better

[Nihilism]

Rage is using ID Tech 5

Brink is using ID Tech 4

There is about 10 years difference between the 2 engines, no they are not using the same engine.

They are about as similar as DX7 and DX11 in graphical capabilities

EDIT:

Even though ID Tech 4 is heavily modded for Brink, it will still be nowhere near RAGE, I say again...there are *literally* 10 years apart. No amount of modding can add 10 years of graphical advancements into Brink, and don't get me wrong, Brink looks really really good, but next to RAGE it looks very dated.

John Carmack: "Doom 4 will look significantly better than RAGE" *salivates*

[Active Reload]

You're right in that it is different. Thanks for the mistake. But I think you're exaggerating on the differences though. Its heavily modified iD4 tech, yeah, but its heavily modified with the help of iD.

[Perjoss]

i know this article was about consoles but even old PC games make the best looking console games look somewhat weak. anyone who has seen metro 2033 on max settings knows exactly what i mean :)

[fishd]

http://i50.tinypic.com/24c9...

http://i50.tinypic.com/2dsi...

Yo dawg

[sikbeta]

@brazilianbumpincher

Seems like you didn't Play it, dude you're missing a HUGE Game...

@Quagmire

I'm as Confused as you, Black Ops, WTF?

This Gen all the COD Games used a Modified Version of the Id Tech Engine 3, unless they use a New Engine, How The Hell they're going to Improve the Graphics....

[Christopher]

I think they're confusing art direction with technical prowess.

I can see how some people may prefer the art direction of some of these games, but when it comes to technical prowess hardly any of them even up to Uncharted 2.

The games that shouldn't even be there: Brink, Deus Ex 3, AC Brotherhood, CoDBO, GeoW3, Crysis 2.

[Dude420]

I would of easily replaced Brink with Reach.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[aaronisbla]

i think a lot of people disagreed with brazilian because they thought he was questioning graphical heavy hitters on the ps3, but from what i gather from his posts, he is questioning the bull shots and wondering why articles keep claiming " better than this ps3 exclusive"

[IHateYouFanboys]

@Active Reload : "Uncharted 2 is the only game out that I've seen actually look like the bullshots."

well it doesnt look like the bullshots, but whatever. everything in the officially released screenshots is in a higher res, has a higher LOD model, and has anti-aliasing out the wahzoo because of the fact that the 'screenshots' are rendered at something stupid like 3000x2000 and then downscaled to 1280x720 to give the appearance of 'in-game'.

on technical prowess alone, many games are much better than Uncharted 2. whats it doing technically? 30fps? 60fps has been done, 30fps is the minimum. 720p? been done before. minimal anti-aliasing? many games have better AA.

all Uncharted 2 is is pre-scripted events, linear platforming, and shootouts in a big room. technically, theres nothing special about it.

there are many games that already are graphically above Uncharted 2 IMO. and games like Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, and Rage are so far above it its not even worth mentioning Uncharted 2.

and anyone saying that the original Uncharted looks better than Gears 1, let alone Gears 2, well they need to go get their vision checked.

[onanie]

Were you being sarcastic, fanboy?

I guess Wipeout 3D trounces everything else that has ever been released, for having the best stats evarrr... like 1080p, 60FPS and 3D. It definitely is better than Gears3 and Rage, even before they come out.

Seriously? Idiot

Then on a technical level, you must concede that wideout HD is also better than Rage and Gears3 - or for that matter, anything else on the 360. LOL

[IHateYouFanboys]

@onanie: read what we're talking about: technical prowess.

on a technical level, yes, wipeout HD is a better achievement than Uncharted 2.

WipeoutHD vs Uncharted 2
60fps vs 30fps
1280x1080 up to 1920x1080 variable resolution vs 1280 vs 720

im not saying wipeoutHD is a better game, moron. im just pointing out that on the technical side of things, Uncharted 2 is average.

[MRMagoo123]

lol semms like what you just said was a fanboy comment i suspect you must hate yourself, geow3 better than uncharted 2 lol give me a break thats bull right there.

[badz149]

LOL you're funny as always!

"all Uncharted 2 is is pre-scripted events, linear platforming, and shootouts in a big room. technically, theres nothing special about it." - sure, a "nothing special" game won countless awards! who would have guess?

"there are many games that already are graphically above Uncharted 2 IMO. and games like Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, and Rage are so far above it its not even worth mentioning Uncharted 2." - people are expecting new games to outdo Uncharted2's graphic but so far above? HAHAHAHA...funny!

[Dee_91]

but itl be like a 2 hour long game lol

[ProjectVulcan]

Uncharted 2 is a technical monster because of what the engine does at once. It manages 720/30 but triple buffered and vsynced so it NEVER screen tears(few console games triple buffer because it chews up 50 percent more framebuffer memory, as 360 only has a 10mb framebuffer most developers dont even attempt it). The engine maintains this at all times, While supporting per pixel dynamic lighting and soft shadows, FP16 HDR + NOA32 2 x AA and anisotropic filtering (high end 360 games usually do FP10 which is lower precision with their AA solution and 360 does not natively support anisotropic filtering), SSAO, Realtime generated animations, procedural textures, subsurface scattering, soft body physics, per object blur, parallax mapped textures....etc etc. Even the character has dynamic elements with water and weather like ice and snow affecting drake's clothes and hair. Seen that on Gears of war 2 start of chapter 3? No?

Half of those things are ultra high end features currently. Few games on PC nevermind console implement them all like uncharted 2. Gears of war 2 and the Unreal engine 3.5 isnt even close. It cant even do proper AA on 360 because of UE3's render pipeline which includes its alpha textures, its 'dynamic' hard edge shadows are rubbish (just watch the character's shadows how they shift around madly and redraw) and its 'HDR' is a glorified bloom filter. I could go on. But i wont because the point is made

[Rainstorm81]

my moneys on Killzone 3 or Gran Turismo 5

Putting faith in a multiplat to best U2 graphically normally ends up in disappointment.

Im not saying its impossible, just improbable

Really Gears 3? Havent we been down this road?

Edit below:
Gears by far isnt a bad game graphically but at the same time Gears 2 barely could keep up with Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, So i wouldnt be surprised if the sequel to Gears 2 couldnt best the sequal to U:DF in graphics............yep, same road

[Active Reload]

Yup, Gears 3. And what road are you talking about? Only thing anyone can comment about Gears 3 is from the demo and everyone agrees its premo!

[brazilianbumpincher]

it will still be a good looking game regardless

edit@double toasted..the fanboy googles look ridiculous take em off,many people me included prefer gears 1 to gears 2, kz3 is pre-alpha with nine months to go so to say it looks like kz2 already even though you dont realise...is a HUGE compliment,

[Rainstorm81]

Its been posted to death but hey whats one more time for the guys who just dont get it.

http://kineticninja.blogspo...

Didnt the devs say that gears 3 is the biggest jump we have seen in the series, which indicates the jump from 1 to 2 being minute.

Dont get me wrong Gears isnt a bad game or a bad looking game, it just cant compare to uncharted as a franchise (graphically) but hey Gears 3 isnt out so maybe time will tell what the unreal engine can do but i doubt it.

Its not that it isnt up to snuff...looks at Mass Effect 2....its just that when compared to some of the PS3's exclusive engines, there isnt any comparison.

Edit @ below
Its the character's facial models that really draw me into ME2 graphics, some of the best facial models in gaming not to mention how big the game is.

[Active Reload]

ME2? Why do people hype the graphics of that game? *SMH*

[Pistolero]

oh...pulling out the old ps3 fanboy kineticninja blog huh...lame.
that comparison was a joke...it was completely biased....all it really compared were character models up close in unnatural positions that you would virtually never see while you actually play the game.

i guarantee that if you wanted to be biased in the other direction you find angles that would make the uncharted models look a lot worse.
but like i said, the whole thing was biased and didn't even look at a whole bunch of other aspects that go into how good a game looks.
we don't stare at characters up close the whole game.

[starchild]

All this talk of PS3 exclusives only being possible on the PS3 is so meaningless. We were told MGS4 couldn't be done on the 360 and now Metal Gear Solid Rising comes out looking better than MGS4. Many fanboys also said Heavenly Sword was something we couldn't expect to see on the 360 and now Enslaved looks better.

The fact is, none of those claims held an ounce of water. The real determining factor in how good games look is simply the talent of the developers behind them. We are seeing a whole new wave of games that truly surpass what came before them. I saw Rage at E3 and I can tell you it looks absolutely amazing when it's running in front of you.

[DigitalAnalog]

"We were told MGS4 couldn't be done on the 360 and now Metal Gear Solid Rising comes out looking better than MGS4."

I'll quote from Tetsuya Nomura, creator of FINAL FANTASY VII and this is what he got to say about your comment:

"It’s not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put on one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination."

====>limited amount of movement we can put on one go and how big our imagination and ideas are.<======

THAT is the significant difference between the 360 and the PS3. NOT graphics.

-End statement

[Kleptic]

pisteloro save it...that is hardly a 'ps3 fanboy' comparison...it simply illustrated how dated UE3 is...and how gears 2 did little to push it forward visually...all the UE3.5 tech demo stuff shown before Gears 2 didn't even make it into the game...save the procedural water effects (still out done by the original Uncharted...)...where are the soft body physics?...the improved lighting?...the hundreds of enemies on screen at once?...none of that made it into Gears 2...

that blog is used a lot, yes...but its because people still sit back and claim Gears of war 2, and UE3 are the best looking console game/engine...which is ridiculous when you actual compare them...no one is saying gears 2 looked bad...only that is has been 100% topped visually by a game that released a year before it...

all i am saying is that I can almost guarantee Gears 3 won't touch uncharted 2, from a technical standpoint...UE3 simply doesn't have it...its not the 360...its not Epic...its just that UE3 and how its coded for consoles simply won't keep up with newer cutting edge rendering engines...period...

convenient how every time a credible comparison comes up with just how good even the original uncharted looked..its written off as fanboy drivel...

[heroprotagonist]

No, that blog is absolutely biased. If you can't see it then it's because you share the same bias.

Like others have pointed out he spends 90% of his time just comparing character models, as if that was all a game was about. There are about a million other things he could have looked at, but he only mentioned areas where Uncharted was strong and avoided areas where it is weak.

One example of his obvious bias is when he compares particle effects he says "I noticed in Gears 2 that many of particle effects such as flames, smoke, and torches are 2 dimensional." But he fails to mention that many similar effects in Uncharted are no different. Did he miss in his own screenshots the fact that the smoke cloud after a grenade explosion in Uncharted are 2D sprites? In fact, the smoke looked so silly that many reviewers went out of their way to mention it. He also fails to mention that if you go up to flames in Uncharted they are also flat if you look at them from the right angle. For example, in the spot where you find your crashed airplane and all the remaining burning wreckage you can see the same kind of 2D flame effect.

Ironically, in the few screenshots he shows of Gears of War 2 that aren't ridiculously zoomed in on the characters, such as the shots of the part inside the giant worm, it is easy to see that Gears 2 looks exceptionally good and easily compares to Uncharted, if not surpasses it.

The whole thing was slanted and biased.

[Theonetheonly]

I dont like this at all.
i feel it now.... PC has no developmental talent. NONE!!!!!!!
besides valve.

blizzard i love you but still.

No effort has been put into the platform since these consoles came out.

F&*#@*G HELL! Im tired of hearing about the PS3 and how it is god and S%$t. last generation NONE of this mattered No one was like ps2 has better graphics than the xbox or nothing people just played the games.

And if you want the Bleeding Edge graphics Come to PC and develop. Thats what its for No Power Ceiling just endless performance.

Uncharted 2 has the best graphics on a Console.
Big F%#@$*G WHOOP!!!!!

I have the shiniest turd but its still a turd.

you may say Im mad or jealous and you'd prally be right. But F%$@#%G GIMME a GOD D#@%#D BREAK.

If half of people had the patience and knowledge to put together a computer as they do for these outdated console pieces of S&&T youd get the better graphics and youd get them FAST, developers would be all over an expanded market. And you'd have a Gaming Device that would truly BE "THRONED"

all this talk about dethrone this and dethrone that makes me sick.

I Feel sorry for what this site has become. WTF

disagree_= PS3 FB

god this is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Irritating.

oh well

"I want some developers to DESTROY the LIMIT, not just raise the bar"

N4G Suicide :P

[goodfellas27]

anyone?

[Kleptic]

heroprotagonist...if you think that volumetric particle effect is a '2d sprite'...you obviously know nothing about rendering technology...which makes it even more clear why you are defending UE3 and Gears 2 against even uncharted 1...let alone uncharted 2...

[FURY__UNLEASHED]

Article fails by claiming the Unreal 3 engine has a chance to dethrone Uncharted 2.

[Socrates]

I agree, Black Ops isn't up there, but Rage most certainly is. It looks at least as good as Uncharted 2, but is 60 fps instead of only 30 fps.

[thewhoopimen]

The animation so far shown in Rage three is nowhere near UC2. They all seem to be old hand animated stuff like all other FPS/Shooters out there excluding KZ2. Neither are the explosive and lighting as good as even Crysis 2.

[mrcash]

the lighting on killzone2 wasnt that real, there was a bunch of fake light sources, throughout the whole game theres lighting in the environment that doesnt coincide with the light fixtures or anything that would create the lighting seen in the levels, the developers were just smart and placed some great lighting in certain places of the game.

[Tachyon_Nova]

@ 1.0 - Made them popular but shit?

On topic, Brink looks good, except for very flat ground texture, otherwise all other games on the list look good. Oh, Except Black Ops, looks more or less the same as other COD's.

@ 2.1.4 - Sure the picture you showed is all good, but it's from a pre rendered cutscene, so who cares?

@ 1.2.2 - Killzone 3 may be in pre alpha, but it is not going to get any better graphically. You see, the only reason games look bad in pre alpha is because the engines are un finished and unoptimised. This uses more or less same engine as KZ2, so all the optimisation has already been done. Hence, it's not compliment.

[brazilianbumpincher]

UNCHARTED 2

same engine as uncharted 1 didnt look much different from uncharted 1 in pre-alpha yet retail game blew every other console game away graphically,thats why its called pre-alpha,never judge a game in this state

how can optimisation be completely done in pre-alpha with nine months to go? seriously go back to the drawing board and try again

[starchild]

Gears of War 3 and Rage have even further to go than Killzone 3, but that doesn't stop some fanboys from judging those games either. Why is it only PS3 games get to use the excuse that "it isn't done yet"?

You do know that the overall look and quality of the graphics are unlikely to change very much at all. They almost never do.

[BBAM]

Killzone 2 got better and better looking as they made the newer builds. Even to the point where the preview build was what amazed everyone.. then they even bettered that build.
Your very narrowminded to believe the graphics won't get better than the PRE-ALPHA...

[dinsurya]

Only a PS3 exclusive can dethrone an other PS3 exclusive.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Yeah.

And who will dethrone God of War 3, Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5 Graphics?

Only PS3 Exclusive Graphics can dethrone another PS3 Exclusive.

[Croaker]

Go look at PC games. PS3 exclusives just got dethroned...

One game has dethroned them all. Crysis on PC. Graphically speaking.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I agree, PC.

But in Consoles?

Please I want to see who will dethrone God of War 3, Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, Killzone 3, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Infamous 2, The Last Guardian graphics.

I have no doubt there will be games with better graphics than God of War 3 or Killzone 3, but those will be designed only for PS3, using the best performance and Anti Aliasing MLAA.

[Croaker]

Why is it that you guys always only argue within the branch of consoles? This is a gaming website is it not? There is a PC tab up on the bar with all of the other gaming platforms is there not? Is the PC not to be considered a gaming platform? This "war" going on, I consider to be apart of gaming on the whole.
Why should this be limited to consoles only? Why not add the PC into the fray? Is it, perhaps you know as any one does with two brain cells to rub together that the PC is undisputed?
We're not talking how many units were moved and whatnot. We're talking graphical prowess here. This debate is centered around graphics alone.

You've said that twice now. Who will "dethrone" those games you've listed. But they all have been already. I consider the PC a viable contender due to the irrefutable fact that the PC is a gaming platform. Granted, this was not the primary task of a PC originally. But the PC has evolved. Like everything else.

I guess I'm just sick of hearing about how no game can touch Sony exclusives when that is just full of shit.
So, again I'll say that no, it does not have to be a PS3 exclusive in order to beat another PS3 exclusive graphically speaking.
As where game play is concerned, the meat of any game, as well as as the storyline. No game has yet to beat MGS4 in my humble opinion.

[Jaces]

Rage is a beauty but it doesn't have much going on at any particular time, once it shows you being blasted at by a helicopter in a crumbling building while fighting baddies and all the while the graphics stay solid and gorgeous, then you can tell me Rage is the better game.

But for now it's nothing more than a pretty game with a gun.

[pixelsword]

It looks nice, but I'll be keeping an eye out for particle effects. I remember that ATAC exploding close-up on the next to last stage on Killzone 2, and right there I said I haven't even seen PC games do that.

[ProjectVulcan]

From a technical standpoint Uncharted 2's game engine is as good as it gets on this generation of console. The combination of world class art direction makes it the best looking console title, you can have a really superb game engine but without the art making use of those tools you have a clean looking game but not an astounding looking one.

If your art direction hides the weaknesses of your game engine well then you can make do with a less than superb feature set, a lot of games however have good engine technology but art that really plays to the weaknesses of the technology, thus coming out fugly.

I am however a bit tired of so many unreal engine 3 based shooter titles, they start to feel really generic and almost merge into one in my memory. UE3 is starting to become as much a curse as it is a blessing for development times, as so many games look and feel so similar with all the same canned foliage/bulky characters/flat vistas/vaseline coated shiny textures. Custom game engines are going to take a lot longer, but really- They usually work out so much more interesting

[blazBlue]

...The only thing that will surpass Uncharted 2 is more PS3 exclusives. Other than that, this is laughable.

[jammy_70]

Don't forget k2, though it's a lot darker, I think it looks better than u2

[mrcash]

There's a whole lot more going on screen in k2 than in uc2, i love uc2 but in uc2 the explosions and effects look really cartoony in comparison to killzone2

[Nevers]

were way WAY better prior to the augmentation... so I don't follow you at all. And yes... I actually own her original PB spread from stealing it from my father <dates self>

[colonel179]

By the time a game dethrones Uncharted 2's graphics, Uncharted 3 will be out.

[Spenok]

I hate this website. Usually i cant even look at it, much less the content they talk about. I need to start avoiding this site at all costs.

[phiro]

why are you here now? why did you take your time to post on a website you absolutely cant stand?

[Rumor]

you type n4g in the adress bar, log in, pick discuss tab, scroll down, and say you hate this site and should avoid it. lmfao fail somewhere else

[Donny]

uncharted 2 beats any game on consols to date, stfu JEALOUS XBOXS.

[Shepherd 214]

Eh, Uncharted 2 is one of the best looking console games, but the original Crysis from 2007(PC) on medium settings still looks better than Uncharted 2.

[Shepherd 214]

You can disagree with my above comment all you want.

The truth hurts doesnt it?

[sid4gamerfreak]

Lol Crysis a 2007 game has already not only dethroned Uncharted 2, it has destroyed uncharted 2 in its visuals.

So many pc games have dethroned Uncharted 2...

As for console game, I havent seen one to overpower uncharted 2, rage maybe, brink maybe not

[TengkuAmir10]

Everytime I log in to this site, I never fail to find an article (usually on the front page) about -insert game title here- dethroning Uncharted 2 but when the game is actually released, people tend to be disappointed and we here, would never hear about that single game ever again.

"Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno is Godz of Warz Killerz! Enjoy your Dod of war droids!"

"We don't need Killzone 3, Crysis 2 looks WAY better"

"Was Uncharted 2 over-rated?"

And now they dare compare Uncharted 2 to a multi-platform game like Brink, Black Ops, and Dues Ex who is no where near Uncharted 1's level let alone Uncharted 2! I'm LMAO'ing right now. Just can't take it. LOL.

[pustulio]

I never saw so much agrees, putting Black Ops there is retarded.

But Killzone 3, Crysis 2 or Rage maybe can dethrone... MAYBE.

[Hyrius]

Only a PS3 exclusive can dethrone an other PS3 exclusive.

[T9X69]

Na, personally I think RDR looks better than U2. Playing U2 I never really just stopped and looked around to see the environments and how well done they where or even the characters. With RDR, even after completing the game 3 times and putting dozens of hours into the MP, I still find myself stopping and looking how beautiful the game is.

EDIT: Not hallucinating at all, the graphical art style of U2 didn't do much for me, the colors where often to bright making it have a cartoony effect.

Even the character models have the effect to them, it looks like they are to smooth and it doesn't look that impressive.

Uncharted 2
http://static.gamesradar.co...

Red Dead Redemption
http://www.wildwestland.co....

@DigitalRaptor - lol inFamous 2 does not look better than U2, you havn't even seen gameplay yet. Killzone 3 graphics look exactly like Killzone 2, which isn't bad because IMO Killzone 2 looks better than U2 as well.

[MysticStrummer]

RDR is beautiful, but you're hallucinating if you think it looks better than UC2 from a technical standpoint.

[callahan09]

"Playing U2 I never really just stopped and looked around to see the environments and how well done they where or even the characters."

Really? Truly? Because I did. A lot.

[DigitalRaptor]

Nope sorry, pal.

The only games I can see that give any indication of looking better than Uncharted 2 are Rage, Deus Ex 3, Killzone 3 and by recent comments, inFamous 2 is set to look better.

[FURY__UNLEASHED]

Nice fail. You show a high-res pic of RDR but a blocky, low-res pic of U2.

I've beaten U2 multiple times (still playing it) and I remember that scene perfectly. There are no blocks or poor black-levels present in the actual game, but the picture you showed has both issues.

EDIT at the disagrees: You're trying to tell me Drake's beard was all blocky in the actual game? And that the game had poor black levels and blurry lines? GTFO! The picture he posted is clearly a compressed, low-res image that's been enlarged. It's so bad, it looks like it's a screen-grab taken from a standard definition YouTube video.

This what the actual game looked like: http://playstationlifestyle...

Great textures and no blockiness, except for some shadows but all games have issues with real-time shadows.

[Ri0tSquad]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It looks much better.

Also, I like how you choose a shiity compressed picture to represent Uncharted 2 but found the best looking picture you could find for RDR.

http://i48.tinypic.com/amfa...
^Random picture I took from U2.

Nice try, buddy, but you failed. And trust me, there's way better pictures than that.

[dj55555555]

I like the way you know that from the Pre alpha graphics. Something tells me you have never played Uncharted 1, 2 or killzone

[Jab-dees-nuts]

please try again. i own Red Dead and its a good game, the sound, the graphics and game play are good and all but it doesnt match U2...sorry

im wondering what kinda monsters will appeare at the end of uncharted3

hmmmmmm

[Pistolero]

"i owen Red Dead and its a good game, the sound, the graphics and game play are good and all but it doesnt match U2."

really?....you must be playing the ps3 version...lol...that's too bad.

i assure you RDR on the 360 is one of the best looking games on either console...well at least in terms of overall technical achievement in terms of scale, physics, interactivity, dynamic gameplay and so on.

[ColossusReaver]

Maybe your definition of what looks better is just different than most people's....Seriously, RDR is good looking (for an open world game) but even something like Infamous 2 is already going to look way better. RDR is a R* game, they're more about gameplay than graphics, whereas a company like Naughty Dog with the Uncharted games, they're just the most amazing developers out there, they created the best looking game currently availabe within 18 months, there is no in-game loading, no pop-in, little to no clipping, it never drops a frame (unless there's something wrong with you ps3), it has amazing lighting, textures, shaders, shadows, etc. etc. The fact that they created something that is this much better, in that much less time than most developers means that they are a force to be reckoned with. what other developer out there has been able to accomplish all of these things together in less than 2 years? Nobody man, nobody

@ Pistolero: I don't think so man, sure in terms of scale it's good, but it isn't even as big in game as San Andreas was, try walking from one end of the map in San Andreas to the other and then try walking from one end of the map in RDR and then compare it, I guarantee that San Andreas is bigger. Really, RDR is a great game but there's nothing that they do better than any other game that does similar things (look at GUN, it did half of what RDR did but on last gen consoles). The cover system could be better, the shooting could be tighter and more distinctive (every gun feels about the same), Shadow Of The Colossus still has better horse AI and feel (If you've ever been on a horse or worked with horses you'd know that they don't act like four-legged cars). And with all the glitches, freezing problems, AI bugs, clipping issues, platforming bugs etc. etc. etc. the game is a mess. Uncharted 2? RDR can't even touch it.

[jemarval]

@T9X69
I think youre just talking sh*t and never played an uncharted game. Im almost sure U1 looks better than RDR. I also think the only game that can compete with U2 in terms of graphics are GOW 3 and good ol Killzone 2. Maybe with KZ2 slightly leading.

@ColossusReaver "a company like Naughty Dog with the Uncharted games, they're just the most amazing developers out there" I agree with you dude, Naughty dog, Sony Santa Monica and guerrilla are the top game developers out there. I think Bethesda are good too, but not that much, and I dont fancy anything from Rockstar games really.

[MysticStrummer]

Yeah you're talking about art direction there, not the technical aspects of the graphics which is what this argument is always really about.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Give me some of what u been smoking ..or you need your eyes checked

[Socrates]

Blah, blah, blah.. uh huh, sure. Most ps3 exclusives look ordinary and some look downright bad, like Warhawk and Twisted Metal. Only a couple ps3 exclusives look really good and even those are somewhat overrated.

Gears 3, Crysis 2 and Rage all look better than any PS3 exclusive.

Edit @ below

Texture quality is a function of memory for the most part, not disc capacity. I find it so funny that some of you don't understand these very basic things.

[dj55555555]

Yes because you can really fit a lot of HQ textures and poly counts on a dvd far more than a blu ray I guess that is why you are telling us these facts

[huzzaahh]

Twisted Metal isn't even out yet. It is PRE-ALPHA, buddy. Many of the most critically acclaimed PS3 titles have incredible graphics and are absolutely NOT overrated.

Gears 3 looks like Gears 2 and Gears 1. They looked good for 2006, but honestly, they haven't improved much since then. The only reason why most people think they look amazing is because they're super shiny. Everything glistens and it's all very deceptive.

I'll admit that Rage does look better than most PS3 exclusives (not going to say all since I haven't seen a build personally yet), but Crysis on consoles looks pretty lackluster. Of course it'll look great on PC, but it won't do too much wowing on consoles.

EDIT: Oh, and back on the topic of being overrated, Crysis and Gears are among the most overrated games ever.

[starchild]

Gears of War 3 doesn't just look like Gears of War 2. Far from it. Go read about some of the major differences. The lighting has been dramatically improved for one thing.

You have no problem trying to make excuses for Twisted Metal by saying it's pre-alpha, but somehow you're ready to judge Gears 3 even though it doesn't come out until next March. That's around 8 months away. But to be honest I don't expect either game to look that much better. A bit more polished, sure, but they aren't going to fundamentally change. The difference is, Gears of War 3 already looks outstanding, while Twisted Metal looks quite poor.

[sikbeta]

"Most ps3 exclusives look ordinary and some look downright bad"

Hmmm... Seems like someone doesn't have a PS3 and by that never played a PS3 Exclusive...

You're missing Loads of Amazing Games dude, I'm sorry for you... :(

[thewhoopimen]

@Starchild: Sorry buddy, but after doing some lookups most of the lighting stuff being FINALLY implemented in Geow3 were done already in UC1. You can look it up yourself.

@Socrates: Texture is a function of memory huh. So i guess all that streaming tech people are trying to develop like ID Tech's megatextures must be some kind of fluke huh. Where did you learn to read?

[heroprotagonist]

Streaming techniques don't change the fact that all textures have to be put into memory to be used. He is right, memory is what decides how good your textures can be.

Next generation a developer could make a game that looks 5 times better than any game we have today and they could theoretically put it on one DVD. It might only be 2 hours long, but they could put it on a DVD. In other words, having more space on the disc allows you to make your game longer (if you can afford to), but it doesn't change the quality of the textures.

Conversely, you could have a disc capacity 10 times that of Blu-ray, but if your memory was only 256MB then your textures would still look like crap.

To be honest, though, I haven't noticed PS3 exclusives to be longer than other games. Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and God of War 3 all have very normal lengths.

[masticating]

Absolutely it does heroprotagonist. We need look no further than the so called "megatextures" technology being developed by ID Software.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It is clear through this wiki that Rage uses the Hard Disk/Disc Drive to stream ground textures (as an example) for use in the game. TheWhoopiMen is not wrong in his assertion. Texture quality is a matter of bandwidth as it is of memory (in this case disc space even).

Conversely, here is my argument. If Texture quality was simply a function of memory, why is it that PCs games aren't a generation ahead in terms of texture quality? Sure they are sampled at a higher res. The answer is there is much more than texture quality going on in the making of Uncharted2's game technology than just texture streaming and frame rates.

[nunley33]

socrates lost the fight already when he lists the only games that he says have better graphics are games that aren't out yet so how can he truly judge those games visuals? just like a 360 troll!

[XactGamer]

You guys really need to get a gaming PC

[ChilliDemon]

Disagreed for irrelevently bringing up the old 'gaming PC' argument.

[MysticStrummer]

I once was a PC gamer. Not gonna happen again. You really need to comment on articles in the PC section.

[georgeenoob]

*cough* Alan Wake *cough*

[DigitalRaptor]

Alan Wake for the most part doesn't even look better than Uncharted 1.

Try again dude!

[baodeus]

^^
this prove this site is owned by Sony fanboy. Just a simple comment, with nothing to back it up or even a slight example of why PS3 exclusive are better, and you get 52 agrees easily.

But then again, they only played game on PS3 so i can understand. What do they know about other consoles (NOTHING).

So why UC2/KZ2/GoW3 are technically superior to anything else? Care to give some examples?

@jneul
Since you talk about the physical aspect of KZ3, heck how about just KZ2, care to give examples?

[jerethdagryphon]

uh its not just textures that need to be good to show what a game can do

ive been playing tomb raider underworld and while some of the enviroments and detials are phenomenalt the single animation /animation limits break imersion

nd blends there animations fluidly meaning when you change animations its nota significant pause in the mesh as it changes

aditionally comments on the memory

ps3s rsx has 256 dedicated ram running at 700mhz it also has access to the cpus ram running at 3.2ghz

so not only does it have enough ram for its own jobs but it can get faster ram when needed

360 uses a unified ram system meaning it pulls cpu and gpu alocations from a single pool, thats fine
but if a part of the game ai physics or what ever it taking up a large amount of ram the amount avalible for gpu is reduced same goes for vice versa,

theres tricks you can use to save ram and such tesselation textures backface culling and deffered lighting shadows are one way

but its not the amount of ram you have its the speed of the ram and not just that oyu need a good ballence

[Croaker]

That is absolutely absurd. It doesn't have to an exclusive.

What is it with the mentality of some of you people here. The PS3 is not the greatest thing to ever happen folks...

I think RAGE has a really good chance to be the best looking game on consoles when it comes out. Gran Turismo 5 will look better than UC2 that is a given. Seriously though. RAGE is looking indredible and it looks that much more incredible when you realize that id is doing this across three platforms.
The only version they've shown publicly is the Xbox 360 version. And man, does it look good. I'm waiting to see how the PS3 version and the PC version will look. I'm willing to bet that they'll be better looking than the 360 version. The PC is a given, of course. I meant the PS3.

Wait..Let me get this right. Gears of War III looks just like Gears of War II (it does) but Killzone 3 doesn't look just Killzone 2? (they look identical, which isn't a bas thing at all) Fanboy goggles??

Uncahrted 2 does look better than RDR, though I enjoy the art style more in RDR than in UC2. Perhaps it is because I enjoy western films and history both.

[Snakefist30]

Yup Only Ps3 Exclusives Can Beat Uncharted 2

[Commander_TK]

Metro 2033, let alone Crysis and Warhead. Yes, I know it´s unfair to compare PC games to console games, but since we all agree that if a game is on one console and PC, it´s not an exclusive, then it´s OK to compare PC to console games

[Xwow2008]

GOW3?

[meetajhu]

God of War 3 demolished Uncharted 2 in terms of graphics.But GOW3 has no physics. Still i love both of them to the core

[theEnemy]

not really.

In terms of scale, God of War III trumps Uncharted 2.

But on Active Cinematic Experience, Uncharted 2 is above all games.

I'd say both of them are pretty equal in graphics and sound.

Damn and both are Only.On.PlayStation.

;)

[Rahim92]

God of War 3 is the only game that can beat or rival Uncharted 2 to say the least. Not even Killzone 2 beats them both graphically imho.

[XactGamer]

If it's on console then most likely no. If it's on PC every game will look better.

[dj55555555]

Price me up a £250 Pc that can play games better looking then UC2 then please

[Xfanboy]

First you will have to build a product that doesn't make profit for years & lose billions so you cant lower the price!! That's what sony did so you can pay a low price!!

Kaz Hirai said it in 2009!! PS3 origanaly cost $800 to make!!!!!

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blo...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1...

[Tachyon_Nova]

I will if you can find a ps3 + 1080p tv for the same amount as I can build a computer to run Crysis on high + 1080p HD display for ($800-$900).

[Biggest]

I wonder if Tachyon_Nova realizes that the PS3 uses HDMI. It can be used with the same HD monitors as a PC. I should know. I used PC monitors on deployment.

Edit: On topic though, right? Didn't we just finish with the latest graphical powerhouse games from the 360 the other day? We watched Splinter Cell come and go. Metro 2033 crawled its way through our minds. And then Alan Wake struggled to keep anyone interested. Someone said it before and I will say it again. Consoles are closed platforms. When you reach a high note that hasn't been passed in years, you can't keep expecting a new high. The 360 will not evolve while you sleep. The hardware can NOT get better. The PS3 is still showing growth. It started later and it will finish later. The only console that will produce a game that looks better than the best out there is the PS3.

[Apolloeye]

@Tachyon_Nova

Here you go
$99 for screen: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-...
$249 for PS3.

[athlon770]

That is just for the white bezel...

[athlon770]

A fairly decent gaming rig follows:

motherboard = 100
quad core processor = 150
memory (4gig) = 110
video card = 350
hard drive = 75
case = 50
operating system = 125
keyboard = 25
mouse = 35
22" LCD monitor = 175

Total of $1195.00 not including shipping

Also figure some of those prices are low (particularly the video card needed to run Crysis on high over 1080p)

while a Sony Bravia 40" HDTV ( http://www.newegg.com/Produ... is only $629.00
and a PS3 can be picked up from Sony.com for $199.00 after the $100.00 rebate on their Sony card.

So, your gaming rig = $1200.00

-vs-

40" HDTV + PS3 = $850.00

hmmmmmmm I think I will take the 40" TV over the 22" monitor

[killzowner]

Just no LOL
@djpolofish
games? plural? so crysis then, since nothing else looks better...

[RagTagBnd445]

This article was only about console games, so i think we should just keep the PC outside of this.

[XactGamer]

Many of the games mentioned in this article are multiplatform meaning on PC. BTW you can buy a gaming PC for $350 or $450 that is far superior than a 360 or PS3.

[athlon770]

I call BULL to that one XactGamer, anything sub $500.00 is not a gaming computer, it is a web browser / email machine.

[MRMagoo123]

thank god ur bubbles are gone cos ur bs was annoying.

[Jab-dees-nuts]

For years ive heard that pc games look by far the best, that they make ps3 and 360 look like nes etc etc blah blah but till this day i have yet to see a pc game that looks better than halo 3...and no xbots its not a compliment. all fanboyism aside, id like someone to show me a game that looks FAR batter than uncharted or any game idc i just want to see one. you can either reply or pm me the link.

[ColdFire]

Just browse this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[waterboy]

YOU

[nickjkl]

wow jab where have you been

[IncredibleGames]

dude when was the last time you looked at a pc game? 2001?

dude..your dumber then all hell..does the name Crysis come to mind? No game and I say NO game on console comes close to Crysis..not even Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2...none of those games

[aaronisbla]

im not even a pc gamer ( ps3 user ) and i can tell you haven't bothered to look for pc games if you think they don't look better than halo 3

[MRMagoo123]

you have to remember that all those good shots on crysis involve mods that ppl have made if consoles where able to be modded as such they too could look better also on that page i saw the shots of medal of honor they arent exactly impressive farcry 2 looked as good but without as many jaggies

[waterboy]

5 agrees 9 dissagrees, rest assured 9 pc fans disagreed with you, i smell denial from the pc fans

[ChilliDemon]

Look PC gamers, I'm sure most of us will agree that PC's will always do a better job of game graphics than a console. Except that I don't want an ugly , windy, beast of a PC sat in my lounge thank you very much.

Edit: Oh great, now I've gone and put this comment in the wrong place dammit.

[ColdFire]

PC doesn't have to be ugly, get a nice case...

[theonlylolking]

Its a sad truth.

[athlon770]

wrong spot

[jneul]

God Of War 3 took the graphial crown, sorry and KILLZONE 3 AND Infamous 2 look to push it even futher in ps3's favour.
multiplaform or x360 games look so dated, run in lower resoulutions will less polygons, so don't look as nice, not to mention they lack the physics shown by ps3 games like kz3

[CWMR]

Hell no. God of War 3 didn't come close to Uncharted 2. The only thing better was the scale but that's not saying much because even GOW2 on the PS2 had big scale like that. It's not that demanding from a technical perspective. Uncharted 2 is still the overall best looking game on the PS3. Most people think that. Even this article takes that position.

[jneul]

I was not attacking Uncharted 2, that is still my favourite game of this gen (because of the awesomeness of the story), but when you play GOW III you will see why it now has the graphical crown, it was even more mindblowing for me than uncharted 2 and it used MLAA which makes the whole game look super smooth

[Ri0tSquad]

You can't be serious.

http://img19.imageshack.us/...
http://img406.imageshack.us...
http://i42.tinypic.com/ra67...

Doesn't come close is a stretch. GOW3 looks outstanding.

[hi2]

god of war 3's opening sequence,cronos battle looked far better than anything in uncharted 2 also the entire game had about several times the scale of uncharted 2.Not technically demanding? yeah right!

[DA_SHREDDER]

You 360 heads act like the ps3 dont have no graphics, but honestly lets be real here, its not just the graphics that ps3 exclusives pwn even most pc games with, its the games themselves and how fun they are that beats anything on xbox 360, I would also say pc, but you can emulate almost anything on pc besides ps3 games so ya, the pc has more games (and even more shovelware than the Wii). But still, one thing is forsure, the ps3 has the more diverse library, with the best games, and the best gaphics on consoles, the 360 has multiplats that look good, but the gameplay and hype just doesn't live up to what you fans of the 360 claim it to be.

[CWMR]

The PS3 exclusives are the ones that don't live up to you guys' hype.

The 360 has the most diverse library, the largest library by far, and 'best games' is subjective. I like the 360s games more than the PS3s games.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

"The 360 has the most diverse library, the largest library by far, and 'best games' is subjective."

I do not know whether i can laugh at this statement...

[weazel]

....and I like sunny days and beer.
(Irrelevant, I know, but when you spout nonsense statements AND THEN talk about subjectivity you can expect to cause confusion.)
If you define diverse and best by corporate market carpet bombing and sanitised analysis of mass market potential then I'll give it to you, 360 all the way. If you're talking about games as innovation however....

[Kaneda]

wow...

[DeathMetal]

LOL my battlefiled BC2 on Pc looks better than your exclusives the texturtes in those GOW3 Pics besides Kratos were not impressive at all. And when your top res is 720 P with a 30 fps and screen tearing for your exclusives you can't even touch the PC, 30 fps for a shooter is pathetic and barely playable to PC gamers LOL. PS3 Fanboys what a sorry bunch you guys are. Lets' get one thing striaght your PS3 has weak memory ( and yes you need memory for better textures) and a weak video card or it would be 1080 P like a PC it's not even close so quit bringing it up. If uncharted 2 was on the PC it would destroy your version and would not have jaggies like the PS3. And it's not hard to make games look good with linear gameplay fixed camera angles, tons of motion blur and no destructibility in the environments ala KZ2 and GOW3.

[BeaArthur]

I bet GT5 will but I doubt any mutliplat game can surpass it. If any could, it would be Brink or Crysis.

[BeaArthur]

I meant Rage, not Brink.

[Xfanboy]

Dear Ester Remake (Source Engine Update) EATs uncharted 2 environment (textures are sexy up close not far away)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

can't wait for this game!!

PC play beyond!!

[jneul]

comparing a ps3 game to a pc game that's really fair / s

[Tachyon_Nova]

Well apparently, according to #10, "ps3 exclusives pwn most PC games", so maybe you should have a word with him yeah?

[Biggest]

Whoa! That looks like so much fun! All of the action going on is just INSANE! The dynamic lighting. . . The explosions. . . The people running around in fear. . .

[saint_john_paul_ii]

no it doesnt. not even close.

[outrageous]

Interesting video, but there are far better PC tech vids than that. Crysis from several yrs ago offered more.

In terms of consoles, I think Gears 3 has out done even it's great, ground breaking standards with Gears 3. I find it hard to believe that any engine on any platform could copy the first 3 mins of this demo down below.

From the Bayonet charge melee attack ( 1:25 ), Live grenade " Digger " attack that travels under ground ( 1:35 ) to the ( 1:48 ) mantle kick, meat shield, grenade in the neck, kick towards the Boomer and the ensuing explosion that splatters Locust/Boomer arms, legs, and brain matter everywhere. Swapping weapons with team mates ( 2:02 ), Lambent body decapitation ( 2:25 ), Chainsaw boot kick ( 3:04 ) and the Lambent Berserker ( 3:40 ) who brings the house down at the end. ALL new for Gears 3 and ALL in real time.

If there is something that is even close to this mayhem in game, I would love to see it. Bulletstorm will be the only compo for Gears 3, using the same tech made by a very good developer in People Can Fly.

[jack_burt0n]

Let me guess the comments xbots who have never played a ps3 saying U2 is bullshots and that the next 360 exclusive will be a powerhouse yet again lol

Only thing that comes anywhere near the ps3 exclusives is portal 2 @ e3 that is looking stunning takes a dump all over crysis 2.

[tudors]

this may be a little extreme but I remember the main reason to own a N64 was the exclusives but most people purchased the Playstation 1 even though the N64 blew it away graphically, now the PS3 does not blow the 360 away graphically though the mass opinion seems to be that the exclusives are better, but I don't know I just seem to get a consistent level with the 360 you don't always seem to get with the PS3, having said that I would buy the PS3 for the exclusives, but as a all-rounder I have to go with the 360, and even though the online play is free on PSN we have always known what we are getting with the 360 and this is why we don't mind paying, if they sort out the communications side on the PS3 I will be there like a shot, the comms side is really important to me.

[RagTagBnd445]

Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 3 and maybe Rage or Crysis 2.

[Jazz4108]

I have played uncharted 2 and it looks good but the graphics are as far from real life graphicsa as I have seen. Uncharted goes for a cartoon shaded look which I believe boarderlands uses. It makes it look good but my god people its not better looking then god of war 3 or even gears as they go more for a real to life look. No cartoons please.

[Xfanboy]

First let me say I love uncharted 2 especially online!!

But I love Crysis to & it was good highest score was 9.2..

Uncharted 2...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

vs.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

My 2 Visual Kings!!

Please don't say KZ2 both games look better!!

UC2 Best looking adventure game..

Crysis best looking FPS..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[BigPappaPump]

LMAO! Did I just see Assassin's Creed Brotherhood on the list? As much as I enjoy the series but it's not known for being a graphical powerhouse. The author needs his eyes checked.

[starchild]

Yes it is. Assassin's Creed has some of the best graphics in an open world franchise to come out this generation. Considering how large its levels are the lighting, textures and other graphical effects are top notch.

[thewhoopimen]

Considering how you load in different areas for Assassin's creed... It isn't exactly an open world.

[theonlylolking]

This guy needs his eyes checked. All those games at E3 looked worse than Uncharted 2. Killzone 3 looked better or the same(have yet to make up my mind). Crysis 2 on xbox 360 looks amazing but not Uncharted 2 or KZ2. Rage looks very good but not as good as xbox crysis 2. GT5 looks better than Uncharted 2.

Why cant some people accept that the PS3 is a graphical powerhouse?

Dont reply with anything PC because they would win in graphics.

[NinjaAssassin]

Um, you need to get your eyes checked. Rage looks better than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. I've only seen a small part of Killzone 3, so I can't form an opinion about that yet. Crysis 2 was right up there as well.

[nickjkl]

when it comes out no one will even mention rage and thats a fact

this game is getting alot of hype and im ot seeing as to why its getting it

[thewhoopimen]

Sorry dude, excluding character texturing and framerate, Rage is nowhere in the league of the big players. No mocap, basic havoc physics, doesn't even have global/dynamic lighting solutions like GeoW3.

[heroprotagonist]

You guys are silly. You sound like you are trying to convince yourselves more than anybody else. Everybody that has seen Rage has been extremely impressed. IGN gave it their "best game of E3 2010" award.
Or listen to how they react in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Rage looks amazing. It has fantastic textures, amazing lighting, tons of detail and effects, impressive AI in its ability to use and traverse the environements, and a frame rate that makes most other console games look like the minor leagues in comparison.

[gamer2010]

Wow, that video looked insane. It positively dripped with atmosphere. I loved how the ghost clan can jump over objects and flip off the walls and stuff. Oh and did you notice how when a bullet hit that pipe on the wall at about the 1:30 minute marker it started spraying water?

After watching that video there is no doubt in my mind, Rage is definitely the best looking game on consoles. And that runs at 60FPS? Insane.

[nickjkl]

notice how that same bar does not stay leaking water

i mean come on combat arms does that and its the most basic free to play fps on pcs

[sanshatak]

its funy everybody is defending his consol,and trying to say that his console is the best,its all so childish,ive got a xbox 360 but i admit that ps3 for me is a better console,not for its slightly better graphics,nor blue ray but only mgs 4,this is the best game on ps3,much better than uc2 and gow 3,there are alot of games like these on 360 but nothing like mgs,i couldnt get this expearience on 360,and on 360 the best experience 4 me was bayonetta which is a better game than gow 3(who has played knows)

[FwanK]

Naughty Bear looks better than Gears 3

[bobdog626]

my flame suit is in the cleaners today ,oh No. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[360 man]

looooooool

[iliimaster]

why on earth do people like sanshatak and others xbox owners think their console of choice can keep up graphics wise?? jesus give that SHH up already... bayonetta better than gow3 lmao... man you made my day... gears 3 is going to look like gears 2 just new things.. and makeovers for the main guys so its not so noticable that the xbox has been capped after gears 2,,, name an xbox game that looks better than gears 2? none.. and how long and how many games have came out since? everybody always believes xbox has more games? lol they have 2 games halo and gears... then they market every multiplat like a exclusive thats how desperate they are and thats how desperate their fanboys think

[Kahvipannu]

I'm not going to comment for the rest, but better looking games than G2 on X0, I have to say I loved the visuals of ME2 and AW. Both dropped my jaw down multiple times. Also RDR was amazing, and B:AA. Ofcourse they are hard to compare still, for example RDR is sandbox..

[heroprotagonist]

So true. That's how I see things in general. You can't really compare different games that easily. They always have their own strengths and weaknesses and it is virtually impossible to accurately say which one looks better.

When I played Gears of War 2 I was impressed. When I played Uncharted 2 I was impressed. When I played Alan Wake I was impressed. When I played GOW3 I was impressed. When I played Red Dead Redemption I was impressed. So, since they all look so different and do different things better than the others I really can't say beyond a doubt which ones are better.

It's obvious. PS3 fans can't even agree with themselves which PS3 games look the best.

[chidori666]

"Top-10 graphic highlights to dethrone Uncharted 2"

LMAO this article is typical of persons bashed killzone 3 sayng rage looks better..

[BannedForNineYears]

This list is awful.
Do NOT expect a multiplatform game to beat Uncharted 2 graphically.
It will be either a PC game or another PS3 exclusive.
inFamous 2, GT 5, or Killzone 3.
Not to mention all the unannounced games.

[Claudinho69]

just like alan wake, forza, and halo reach did?

[baodeus]

have u play these games?

That is the problem here on this site, making a statement about something while not knowing anything about it and get agree (well as long as it support Sony). How dumb can you guys get.

How about this, give me example of technical aspect of any PS3 games then i'll can give other technical aspect of x360 games. This way we can share knowledge about what each console are capable of.

The lack of knowledge on this site is astounding.

[Traveler]

I love my PS3 but I recently played Alan Wake and it does have incredible visuals.

[Claudinho69]

no, but we've seen the latest hd video of those games and it didnt turned out as good as u2, gt5, gow3...even tho they claimed it was going to.

[viking805fan]

Probably Uncharted 3, Killzone 3 and Gran Turismo 5 :)

[hi2]

funny list , i lol'd(black ops,deus ex 3 etc.) seriously?

[jemarval]

Everytime We heard a game thats coming to the ps3 and is also gonna be on the 360, we all know the game wont look so good. Why? easy, the game has to be developed to match the capabilities of the weaker console (xbox360), so when you play it on the ps3 you are not at all impressed. When the game is only.on.playstation, they squeeze out those cell special power for the game to rock out graphically.

I dont mean by this that multiplatform games suck, only that theyre slightly worse in terms of graphics. This is the reason you see all of this comparisons in multiplatform games saying PS3 vs 360, It makes no sense, its the same game, it will look the same, It might even look slightly better on the 360 since it was probably conceived on it first.

[Kahvipannu]

I have to disagree, have you seen the demos of Rage? Man that game is sick graphically, and it's a sandbox game, not linear tube-shooter. But the best part about it is that ID is making it. Few more examples, like ME2, GeOW2, Batman:AA, RDR are all top notch.

I'm betting my money for this years best console graphics for GT5 or Crysis 2. For X0; Crysis2, AW, or ME2.

[xX-PEIN-Xx]

Whats the point of an article like this? Did anyone think no game would ever top Uncharted 2 in graphics? Even if any of these games top U2, whats stopping Uncharted 3 from overtaking them?

[despair]

they lost me at Brink and then I saw Assassin's Creed brotherhood LMAO.

[xTrueLegendx]

no multiplatform game or xbox game will ever come close to matching uncharted 1 because half of the games on the xbox are sub hd

[Traveler]

I'm sorry, but that is a flat out lie. The 360 and PS3 both have exclusives that are sub hd. MGS4 and Ratchet games on PS3 are sub hd and Halo 3 and Alan Wake are sub hd on the 360. But when it comes to multiplatform games if you go read the comparisons or the list of resolutions on beyond3d you will see that the PS3 has the sub hd versions more often. It's the simple truth. Besides, being sub hd does not mean that a game can't be one of the best looking games around. For example, MGS4 and Alan Wake.

[dRanzer]

MGS4 is three and half years old.Aw? more like 3 months.

do your claculations

[ChronoJoe]

Metal Gear is missing like 20 lines of resolution, something like Halo is missing over a hundred, not exactly fair to put them together when you consider Metal Gear vs Halo, as a whole product.

I mean, have you seen what Metal Gear is rendering, and how it looks? Everything in the game is in-engine, and positively phenomenal... Halo doesn't look very good, and can't manage HD.

I'm not going to make excuses for the Ratchet and Clank games, but it's purely because Insomniac wanted the game to be locked at 60fps. Halo on the other hand, is locked at 30fps. Quite a difference.

And of course if we take it further, and start considering the amount of 1080p native games... things get quite embarrassing for the 360.

[DoucheVader]

A year later and still no one has topped Uncharted 2 graphics? :P

This article is crap by the way.

[DeathMetal]

Says Hi.

[ChronoJoe]

He was obviously only talking about console games.

[sanshatak]

hey iliimaster i am not talking about graphics,im talking about overall experiense,and i never told that bayonetta looks better than gow3,just i am sayin it is a better game go and play it on xbox(not ps3 bad port)and u'll admit that, if ur not one of these fanboys,at first i didnt even want to play the game,but reading the reviews i just played it,and it was awesome,and im not saying gow is a bad game,its awsom to,one of my favorite games,and dont call me fanboy,i admit that ps3 is 4 me better.im just saying its graphics are not that ahead to be an advantage over 360

[x5exotic]

bayonetta sucks either way
DMC ripoff with extra moves that arent helpful/needed
no story
only fans are ones attracted to that ugly bitch...lame

[diego750]

ONLY GT5!!

[adonis183]

uncharted 2 has the best details and graphics
i hate when pc gamers talk shit. ugh

[Pandamobile]

It's not "talking shit". It's speaking the truth.

[fullmetal297]

PS3 fanboys loves boasting about how "PS3 IS TEH BEST IN GRAPHICS" but when someone brings the PC into the scene, they close their ears and say "LA LA LA PC DOESN'T COUNT LA LA LA, YOU ALREADY LOST LA LA LA". Be a man and face the truth fanboy.

[x5exotic]

god of war 3 already did that noobie =)
next game is Crysis 2 cuz it has no competition....never played it tho hehe

[x5exotic]

others would be MGS5 and GT5

[HaVoK308]

Having played through UC2 several times and having played all the Triple A titles of the past year I believe their are quite a few games that already surpass UC2. UC2 offers up a lot of pre-rendered vistas. Pretty and all but hardly revolutionary. I prefer the visuals in several games. UC2 is good and looks good but its so overhyped by Fanboys its pathetic. KZ2? My single biggest disappointment in recent years. What a joke that game was.

[jemarval]

Dude wtf r u talking about. I hope you mean Kalamari Zorever 2. Killzone 2 is one of the best games in history, and to me, the best FPS to date.

[Keltik82]

That can dethrone Uncharted 2 except for another PS3 exclusive, or ya know, Uncharted 3!

[Thoreau]

hate. that is cool. haters gonna hate.

[razgriz94]

The only games that I would agree have the potential to beat Uncharted 2 graphically are Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 3, and RAGE. I do not believe any other game has a chance.

[bjornbear]

another article trying to "dethrone" a PS3 exclusive game in the graphics / visual department *laughs*

meh, these aren't that fun =/ but i agree with some of the list

except for black ops *lols* stupid, and a few others

[hoops]

Crysis 2 and Rage are up there. UC2 IMO is the best looking console game overall.
GOD3 looked amazing and better than UC2 in SOME areas. It had a mixed bag of visuals. UC2 was more polished overall.
Right now Crysis 2 witht those physics and destruction and heavy duty detail looks to be the best looking game so far.
The PC version of course blows everything away.

[x5exotic]

but SOME places arent few.....the hermes chase place and the hades part and another i cant remember were unbalanced,others are amazing :)

and i agree Crysis is now the best,and honestly the only one that looks exactly like CG movies

[n4gno]

That kind of article don't help delusional fanboyz hoping to see one day a game wuth uncharted 2 graphics on xbox....but it's just impossible (same for the wii by the way :))

[gamer2010]

Whatever, dude. Have you even seen Rage? It definitely looks better than any exclusive on PS3. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Hell, even Gears of War 3 is looking like it probably surpasses Uncharted 2.

[chiwoo]

Yeah they might dethrone Uncharted 2 but God of war 3 already did it and soon Uncharted 3 will own all other games

[jalen247]

GOW III is the best looking game to date on consoles and only second to Crysis on Max settings on a beastly gaming PC if you include PC

[hoops]

Metro on the PC looks better. But you need a killer right to run it

[jalen247]

By the way GOW III is better than Uncharted 2 in every way especially graphics and gameplay

[N4BmpS]

Not really that depends on what you're looking for really, so you can't which is better than the other. But in the graphics department yeah it did blow past U2AT but it was expected to. But presentation, gameplay etc. you can't say which is better unless you're going strictly off personal preference.

[Trroy]

You can't put racers (GT5) and or corridor games like DE3 into the same catagory as U2, and pretend they "beat" it.

That's like saying Myst is the greatest looking game of all time, because it used pre-rendered backgrounds for like... everything, and thus made for the greatest screenshots ever.

The only fair comparisons here are Rage and Crysis 2, really. Those two games are technical marvels, and on-par with U2 from that standpoint -- but they are also both FPS games, and Rage is radically different tech... not cinematic, and instead open-world stuff. Brink is MP only, no cinematic experience at all. Gears 3 is TPS, but... come on, its not going to compare. ...and CoD: Black Ops? What?

The list is pretty flawed. A lot of apples-oranges-pears-cherries being compared.

[IncredibleGames]

Its funny seeing everyone go on and on about being which has the best graphics, x360 or ps3.

hahahah I own BOTH SYSTEMS!!!

[ChronoJoe]

Dues Ex doesn't look good on console, there's plenty leaked footage around.

Assasins Creed Brotherhood looks the same as AC2 with some minor graphical touches, it's not a full sequel update just a spinoff with some retouching.

Blackops will be SD, like every other COD game. Not only that but generally low polycounts on rendered objects, low resolution textures all round... not happening.

Gears 3 looks good, but epic really didn't lie when they said they've maxed out on the 360. Gears has slightly optimized code, which allows for a few spruce ups here and there, but anything on XBOX I'm afraid just won't cut it due to technical limitations.

Killzone 3, this is a possibility. From what I saw of the E3 demo I wasn't too impressed but it's dependant on how the engine renders foliage. They're supposed to be 'jungle' enviroments in the game, so we'll have to wait and see. The icey environment was pretty bland.

Crysis 2 doesn't look great on console. It can be forgiven, of course by providing gamers with the large sandbox enviroment it professes to have. Which probably makes it the best looking sandbox game, but technical limitations stop it being even close to the best looking game on console. It's much easier to peak graphically with a linear game.

Rage looks good but the artstyle lends itself to simpler rendering techniques, and prevents it from being the 'best looking game'. I'm sure it's pushing alot of pixels, and all that, but the PS3/360 version certainly isn't going to dethrown Uncharted. ID Tech has never, ever been on the graphical edge, so I very much doubt this new engine will put them there.

GT5? Probably, incredibly different games though so it's extremely hard to make a fair comparison.

My opinion ^^

[BBAM]

Brink - Doubt it
Deus Ex 3 - maybe, looks fair good
Assassins creed - this series has always look great so maybe
cod:BO - refuse to comment. Though I can garantee 100% it'll be a nominee for best graphics awards. Seeing how MW2 was and black ops looks better than that. But still. come onnnn
GeoW3 - looks sick, definately a contender. Shame cliffy thinks his series is still top of the visuals in games...
bulletstorm - gears that can be played on ps3 is still gears
killzone 3 - another maybe. Killzone 2 was the best looking game for a few months til U2 came along. GG will have to really up their game
Crysis 2 - definately on PC. Will be interesting on consoles
rage - looks good, but for me, not as good as everyone's making out
GT5 - this game's in a league of it's own. No doubt it'll be better. My money's on it being the best looking game of this generation

[dRanzer]

please.

KZ3 looks like KZ2? maybe,but it's pre - Alpha.and his 3D.
now,Gears 2 and 3 looks the same.gears 3 do 3D? NO.

Rage runs at 60FPS@,BUT, ID says he runs even better on PS3.
Anybody saw the new trailer of GT5 -Honda NSX Super GT - Indianapolis?
Damn,look on the daynamic shadows,the animations.The best looking game,in 3D!!

and maybe crysis 2 going to be look good or better then U2,but against U3 he doesn't have a chance.That i can ensure you.

BTW,sorry about the poor english,google sometimes fail me. =]

[Eiffel]

You guys don't have much faith in Rage do you? This is Id Software we're talking about. These guys are not be joked with. Most of their games skip generations. Some of you need to do your homework on the Id Tech 5 engine. This engine may very well change the industry for the better. I'm getting it for the PC, no doubt will be the best looking game on any platform to date and for a while.

God can't even image how good Doom 4 will be...

[Trroy]

iD's gameplay is usually mediocre, sadly -- alot like Crytek, which is curious.

That said, I'm sure Rage and Doom 4 will *look* great.

[Eiffel]

So Doom was mediocre? Quake? Wolfenstien? Uh huh, sure kid.

[The Iron Sheik]

All these games are going to end up like Metro 2033, Alan Wake, Halo Reach,& Splinter Cell Conviction. All games that a certain fanbase said would beat Uncharted, Killzone 2, & GOW 3's graphics and failed.

Of course I'm only talking about consoles here.

[redwin]

I have all 3 consoles and I like them all but uncarted 3 is the must over rated game ever. Honestly, they give you a scenario in a small crowded space so they can use the available memory to bust the grafix and everyone loves it. When did we lower our standars? If we keep talking about this uncharted 2 game they are going to give us more of the same. Nothing in that game is ground braking. The online play is also inferior..... honetly

[chiwoo]

Stop owning yourself man Uncharted 2 is Amazing Most people that hate on it are the ones that just looks for something to get heat on and just want to bash on a perfectly good game Even most Hardcore Xbox owners gave it praise. and Xbox Websites reviewed it.

[PS360PCROCKS]

assassins creed and call of duty!? Someones smoking some major dope...

[TheMutator]

only stupid people fight for graphics , get a life

[TheMutator]

when i see all the stupid things that the people write , i want to quit of gaming , what a shame

[peeps]

Certainly a lot of graphically beautiful games at E3 this year

[prettyboy1]

uc2 has had the crown for a minute,i guess well see