Fallout 3: "360 is our lead dev platform," says Bethesda

Speaking to videogaming247.com in London today, Bethesda marketing boss Peter Hines has confirmed that the lead development format for Fallout 3 is Xbox 360.

"The 360 is our lead development platform, so we got it working on that one first," he said. I mean, we develop them all simultaneously, but one of them's got to be the lead, so it was 360."

[MaximusPrime]

good luck to that.

[M0KILLaU]

to here this!! There is too many must have games coming out on the PS, so it's allot easier now to cut Fallout off my crowded list.

2008 is going to be the best year ever for gamers.

[Phil Harrison Mklll]

Another 3rd rate P.C game i've never heard of and don't want.

[ravinshield]

the typical cow excuse.

[Meus Renaissance]

Skipping the game.

[The Real Joker]

Cry baby.

Bethesda proved it can program for the PS3 quite well.

[Sev]

Very true death eater.

Normally this would tell me the PS3 version is gonna blow, but Bethesda proved to me with Oblivion that they can handle the PS3.

I am still on the fence about Fallout 3. I prefer classic RPG settings, it was even difficult for me when FF series got all futuristic.

[kewlkat007]

Wah, wah, wah , wah....

Come on grow up..Devs are getting better with the PS3's architecture.

The 360 will always be the easier platform. As long as you think the 360 is inferior in each and every way, you'll always have superior complexes.

This is a PC game first so duhh...not a shocker totally.

[Ri0tSquad]

I believe there actually taking an advantage of the Blu-Ray, streaming the disc, and using the SPUs to speed up load time and such. They did a great job on Oblivion (there first game on the PS3), it was on very early PS3 dev kits, and the PS3 version of Oblivion proved to be the faster running, faster loading and better looking version.

Not only has the extra development on Oblivion on the PS3 HELPED Bethesda, the new Sony tools have improved by a lot. It's called GCM Replay and apparently it was a tool that wasn't available when they were making Oblivion on the PS3 and they said it was trial and error without it. Basically, this tool allows them to iterate, debug, and optimize the game much faster on the PS3 then it did with Oblivion. They also can see what is going on with the PPUs and they now have better controls over the SPUs. Now that they have this wonderful tool you can bet we won't see this game delayed like it was before!

[decapitator]

This has been known for a while...well at least by me however, from what I am hearing the game will be superb on the PS3 as well as the others. The game is said to be using the Oblivion engine and you all know how well Oblivion was running on the PS3 after it was released.

Although the game is just a week or so behind the 360 and PC version, the developers have said the game will be equal across all platforms.
This is not fvcking EA or Ubisoft we are talking about here, this is Bethesda and they know their sh1t.

[Meus Renaissance]

I said I'm skipping the game, and I have various reasons for that. But if I choose to skip a game because it appears that we could potentially get an inferior product then who are any of you to criticise me as if I'm refusing to buy your own game that you've developed?

"Wah wah". The irony is that you whom cant seem to construct a mature response are the one that's giving the impression of a child. I don't want the game, accept it, deal with it, and move on.

If the game is equal in terms of quality with it's 360 counter-part, I might consider it but then again I probably will not as I have other reasons, one of them being time and money.

[kewlkat007]

even though you have some secret reason....

This game will be Fiya. Regardless of the platform. Ha!

[JsonHenry]

I don't think it matters which platform is the "lead" platform when they are developing the game for all systems at the same time.

And it shouldn't matter even if the game was ported if the dev does is correctly.

I am getting this for the PC myself. I played Oblivion for a about two hours on the 360 and returned it to gamefly because it was horrible compared to the PC version. Hopefully this time around console players will not be given a lesser product.

[Statix]

Judging by the visuals alone, should've tipped you off that this isn't a PS3-lead title. Nearly EVERY multiplatform game nowadays is XB360 lead-developed now, for whatever reason. That's just the way it is in today's developmental climate. What exactly did you expect?

[Palodios]

The shame of this isn't that the ps3 isn't the lead platform... the shame is that the PC isn't the lead platform. Fallout simply is a PC series, that's where its origins are. Its not that consoles shouldnt get the game, because they should ( and I'll buy one of the console versions, because I don't have a quality pc right now) but the game should definitely have had the PC as lead platform. They can't use an excuse like "we've had 360 hardware information longer".

[sonarus]

90% of multiplats that work almost identical to 360 version are ports contrary to what the game producers want you to believe. This will be my first fallout and whether or not i buy it on 360 or ps3 means nothing to me. But i don't plan to miss this one. Only a slate of bad reviews will hold me back

[gambare]

Just check Oblivion, it got better features than the 360 version, and they had a lot of time with the PS3 now.

[MK_Red]

Dude, don't do it. Fallout 3 is not a game to miss. Believe me, it's worth it and Bethesda has said that all three versions will be identical.

This is seriously old news and while Beth did say 360 is lead, they assured everyone that other platforms won't get simple and cheap ports.

And finally, Please don't miss Fallout 3. It's one unmissable game.

[Milky]

wizard fingers

[CaptainHowdy]

Betheslda also did oblivion on the 360 1st and the ps3 version ended up looking better....i just hope they release simultaneously this time

[Tomdc]

yes but a lot of developers have now realised if they lead on PS3 it results in a better game for the PS3 and the 360. Still be a great game whatever console its lead on tho, and it's not really a big issue.

[ZeroXMD]

Been pc as the lead. it's a pc series, bethesda has been a pc company, so it should have been a pc lead platform. OR, instead of choosing "lead" platforms, they should tailor each version to it's specific platform. That way there is no "which is better" debate. But most likely, just like all reviews, they will say "it's better on 360" like they usually do, with no reasons given whatsoever. That trend is breaking, but it's still around. I haven't played a fallout, but even with bethesda behind it, it's still prolly not going to be the same as the originals. Just like turok (screw naysayers, the new turok is awesome). Even tho it's good, it's no where near the same as the originals (again, screw naysayers, the originals kicked @SS, xcept for evolution, which was only decent)

[pp]

i don't blame them choosing the best platform

[GODofDOOMS]

stop being a fanboy
god when will this console war end it so anoyying

[gEnKiE]

wow, your pathetic...

[Pain]

thx old gen dvd9 inferior old pile of crap RROD windows gaming machine...

[KBDuB]

@GODofDOOMS - Never.. They will raise their youngins to praise one console and discriminate the other console. Sorta like Racism.. it's stupid, and people need to grow up.

[BilI Gates]

Old. Very very old. http://www.n4g.com/News-850...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

grey hair old

[Mr_Bun]

the kind of old where you open the fridge and you can smell that something has expired but you aren't quite sure what so you start throwing out things that might be bad but probably aren't until you come across what one can only describe as "Potato looking" with what appears to be a plethora of colorful vegetables growing from it, but you know you didn't have a potato in the fridge...and yet you still haven't thrown it out.

What I am trying to say is that the story is old

[SUP3R]

LMAO@Mr Buns!!!
*bubbles*

[iMad]

What will not change for a long time.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

Sure.

I Imagined you would have said the same thing about 360 outselling PS3 in 2008.

[Primetimebt]

It can and it will if the 360 can manage to do better in europe, or japan.

[chasegamez]

ill pass on this game for sure now

[Iamback]

We are a like bro. Dont give money to those arrogant b..tards.

[felidae]

well. this is a typical pc/360 game.

[Chubear]

I certainly know I have no issues with that cause Bethesda has proven they know how to deliever on the PS3 with the likes of Oblivion so I'm not at all worried.

The proof is in the puddin.. cake.. or some sort of pastry.

[Ri0tSquad]

Verrry old

[rawd]

Welcome to not 152 days ago

[Zhuk]

Bethesda knows which platform provides developers and publishers with the gamers, money and the technical power to realize their creative vision, this is available Only on the Xbox 360.

As an Xbox 360 enthusiast, this news makes me even more excited for what will be one of the most critically acclaimed releases of the year and I will be happy to know when I put my Fallout 3 disc into one of my Xbox 360s that I will be playing the premier version just as the developers intended it to be, not held back by inferior hardware and platforms that the competition provides.

I love it

[iMad]

BTW, just read GT5p user reviews on gamespot and there is many 7 and lower game scores...gamers feel fullished by SONY...SONY liers.

[Superiorrior]

Man, you were stupid then iMad and your stupid now, why did you come back.

“We had a year’s head start on the 360 because it came out a year earlier, so we had final dev hardware to work with earlier on than we did with PS3,” he said. “But as this point all three of them are pretty much on par. The goal is that, if I get three versions in here and hide the console or PC and just had them running on the screen, that you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.”

I know READING COMPREHENSION is not on Xbot's skills of life plan but one is THE TIMING OF THE CONSOLE YOU MORONS, it has NOTHING TO DO with the power or the dev kits, NEXT, BOTH VERSIONS ARE ON PAR, regardless of this being an old story doesn't mean every Xbot has to be retarded.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

This news is actualy kinda old.

[heyheyhey]

true

MART was making a big deal of it like half a year ago

[meepmoopmeep]

Bethesda are good devs. hopefully they worked just as hard on the PS3 version.

[AllroundGamer]

so PC only devs are choosing xbox360 (just like Valve), big surprise...

[Greysturm]

Oblivion was great on PS3 so i dont think anyone has anything to worry about.

[consolewar]

by the way Oblivion came out first on the 360.

[Iamback]

IS that so mr.Developer. Than i am not buying it, thanks. I will stick and give my money to Sony exclusive games.

[ps3-360-wii123]

just because 360 is lead platform for fallout 3 doesnt mean ps3 will suck wtf is wrong with you grow up and stop whining like a little
b!tch

EDIT your making fun of me cause i have one bubble? thats stupid your a f%%cking loner for talking on a site 24/7 go get laid virgin as for fallout 3 your being a little b!tch you fanboys are the biggest losers on this planet just because falout 3 is lead dev for 360 your being a little b!tch go get laid and go get some friends before you die of severe depression you sad little prostate tickling CUNT jeesh i cant stop laughing at how much of a loser you are ive met crackheads
with more promise then you .......lmao defending a console like its a god you are the true defentinition of loner/loser/suicidal

[Iamback]

No i am not crying "mr.onebubble because i am an a.."
Its matter of principles, and i am not going to buy port, even if it is on par with 360. No thanks. I will buy Sony and PS3 exclusive games to give my money to those developers and Sony. This Bethesda or whatever can fall on thier knees and give BJ to MS, i dont give a crap. B!tch!

[iMad]

you have a funny logic..be a gamer, not a hater

[Iamback]

@imad

well i am not interested in GTA4 or any GTA prior to that, just not my thing. Dont like FPS so COD4 is not for me, but i will buy Haze, KZ2 and Resistance 2 to support those guys, and then give games to my brothers that like FPS games, i hope that answers your "intelligent" question?
EDIT:BTW how you even dare tell me something about hate and pretending being gamer? You are not gamer, you are fanboy. And you hate "gamers feel fullished by SONY...SONY liers.".
I am neither a gamer, i only own and plan to own PS3, no other console, even if it was 50 bucks. That doesnt mean i hate MS or Nintendo. I AM Sony FAN and care only what they do. I wish all the best to MS and Nintendo but dont care really about their games.
I owned i know i did.

[iMad]

But you are completely crazy to buy a game just to support SONY Are you a SONY propaganda guy here? :)))

[sak500]

Yes, you payed 600$ to play 3 exclusive games. Good thing BD won otherwise the burgers dont even taste nice on ps3.

[Garrison]

So these guys know what their doing on the ps3. Who cares which platform is their lead when the superior version is most likely going to go to the ps3 due to hardware differences?.

[Fishy Fingers]

You can have a super computer. If it isnt coded correctly it wont run correctly.

Both version will be the same. Hold me to that. Bethesda know their sh*t.

[ip-student]

The initial version of the PS3 played better but subsequent patches also provide that same optimization for the 360. Bottom line is that neither platform is as easy to program as a PC but once you figure it out you can do quite a lot. So basically, Bethesda has figured out how to make both platforms sing.

If they can avoid the issue they had with the strict leveling of enemies in Oblivion (probably brought on by the fact that you can go anywhere and they wanted to keep things interesting no matter what you did) then I will be happy. In other words, I am only concerned with game play decisions made by Bethesda - I know they can make the game look good.

[supaflypriest1]

I would hope that a game that comes out a year later preforms better, if not the developer is doing something wrong...

[BigKev45]

Once again the Xbox 360 rules.

[Frnicatr]

I think you made a big typo..

You said Xbox 360, but we all know you meant PS3.

[TitanUp]

meus kinda weird to be skipping out on this game cause of this nothing to complain about.

and you people whining about him skipping what are you people 12 years old?

[S1nnerman]

It makes no difference to me (or my life) one way or the other. PS3 will get the game too and it will be good. This kind of thing only really concerns fan boys so I say meh!

[pp]

you ps3 fan boy's could stop crying it's not end of the world

[Ali_The_Brit]

nobody is crying so pathetic waste of space go back to your mums tits for milk or something

anyway owning both consoles, but prefering PS3, but if this game does turn out to be better on the 360 then il buy it for that console. i enjoyed oblivion and this is shaping up to be a 10/10 game

[Z F1GHT3RS]

lol u got 6 disagrees from sony drones. meaning it is the end of the world for them lol
whinning b!tches.

[Grannyvukka]

Don't care about this game, I am more interested in Borderlands. Only game I am interested in, that I cannot get on my 360 is Left 4 Dead..... Thats the only reason I have a 360. Oh, and the only game so far I have on it is HL2. On the other hand, I have about 10 PS3 games and can't wait or Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, MGS4, Team Ico Next game, 8 Days, Unchartered 2, Jak and Daxter, Tekken 6, Cambridge Studios next game, Socom (both), Killzone 2, Wipeout HD, Infamous, Heavy Rain, Sly Cooper, Haze, The Agency, The Getaway 3, and many many more.

Fallout 3 to me, as a non-western rpg fan (or any type of rpg in fact) looks to be a slow and boring version of a fps. Mixing rpg elements with a fps kind of turns the game into a hybrid half breed that excels in neither genre.

[kingme71]

Wouldn't you expect games releasing now to primarly have been led on the 360? They were starting development 1.5 - 2 years ago on average, so most devs would have picked the 360 back then.

Top tier games will look the same on both platforms. The excuse that the PS3 is too hard to develop for is losing steam since so many top rated titles look great on both systems.

[aiphanes]

In multiplatform games...its just right now the Xbox 360 has about 18 million consoles vs the PS3s 12 million consoles...once the number of PS3 is over 18 to 20 million which will happen in the next year...devs will start to develop on the PS3 first...

But this game should be awesome on all three platforms...its just a shame that they had to squeeze the games down to fix on the Xbox 360s DVD9 disc...just think what they could have done on a 50 GB bluray...i know i know the PC version is also on a DVD9 disc....but just think what they could have done.....just think of the different textures...

We will see a lot more 50 GB games later this year...MGS4, Killzone 2, and Resistance 2...

[Bladestar]

"But this game should be awesome on all three platforms...its just a shame that they had to squeeze the games down to fix on the Xbox 360s DVD9 disc..." ahhh ahah! look at you acting as if you know what you are talking about... it's common knowledge already that what makes a game take lots of space is the CGI and movies.... which explain why oblivion, Mass Effect can be so big and yet fit in a DVD9.... we are talking about Bethesda incase you forgot... they are not Kojima... their games do not have CGI.... ohh and by the way... developers were never stopped by disc space... all they do is add another disc.... this game is linear... and duhh... there are already games using multiple discs... this is an RPG game and in case you didn't know RPG games on the PS1, PS2, and xbox 360 are made in multiple discs since their are story driven and they are linear... nothing is being cut down... specially because nothing needs to be cut down...

"i know i know the PC version is also on a DVD9 disc" then you should know better.. specially comming from a PC developer... they don't mind bringing their games in multiple discs if they have to... and as proven over the years gamers don't mind switching a disc between 10-20 hours of gameplay... since they are doing that when they play other games... also, I rather get up and change a disc... takes me less than 1 minute... instead of wainting for installs... like the PS3... it's a trend... latest game doing that? GTA4... this game will probably require installs too... So, there you go... each system have their things to deal with... you don't mind waiting 5-10 minutes to install games... I don't mind switching disc (4 minutes... 1 minute each disc... 4 discs.... between 40 hours of gameplay).

[zypher]

"this is an RPG game and in case you didn't know RPG games on the PS1, PS2, and xbox 360 are made in multiple discs since their are story driven and they are linear"

um, i don't recall any PS2 rpgs on multiple discs. i know for a fact Dragon Quest VIII, Suikoden 3, 4, 5, Rogue Galaxy, Radiata Story, Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 are all single-disc rpgs. so is FFX, FFX-2 and FFXII, and all three of those are loaded with CG.

[heyheyhey]

"they are not kojima... they're games dont have CGI"

another failed point, Kojima doesn't use CGI

MGS4 is 50gb because its so long and complex, and a lot of stuff is probably uncompressed

[Diugu]

Bladestar... please, go get some info.

EDIT: Sorry, didnt see heyheyhey's post untill I posted. Anyways, there you have it.

[nutmaniv]

I hope we see more awesome games like Warhawk that really show off what blu ray can do...

Ah warhawk...The blu ray game that can fit on a CD R.

[jmare]

I have to agree with zypher, I do not remember any US releases of any rpg that was more than one disc. You can't include FF XI because of it's expansions. The only games I remember that were released in the US that were multi-disc were Subsistence and GOW 2 and both extra discs were bonus stuff, not primary game content. I think the primary argument about DVD versus Bluray is that what would we be getting if everything was on an HD storage format. Develoers would have fewer restrictions. How is that bad? It isn't. PCs don't have that problem due to installs, and the PS3 doesn't have that problem due to Bluray. Only the 360 is holding developers back as far as storage concerns. I'm not saying the 360 is a bad console (per se), just that it's funny how hard you guys will defend the 360 limiting developers abilities to make better games. That is just sad.

[Bladestar]

@hey.... so, if kojima does not use CGI in his game... what do you call this CGI?

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/...

And why the hell everyone call it CGI? Type CGI and MGS4 on google and all major site refere to it as CGI... I think you are confused.... Kojima may use ingame assets to pre-render his cut scenes but they are still CGI and arent built on the flight polygon by polygon...

Can you show me a link where it says that Metal Gear games dont use CGI?

ohh and about the PS2... you may be right about not having any game on multiple discs... DVD were relatively new when it was released.

[heyheyhey]

erm..... its called a trailer numbnuts, you know? the ones that have to look good to entice the consumer

oh yeah, and you've obviously NEVER played an MGS game

otherwise you'd see that ALL the cutscenes are made using the in-game engine

and im not gonna hunt around the internet for someone who is just obviously going to remain in denial and tell me my link is rubbish or some BS like that

[Superiorrior]

Kojima himself said every cutscene is in real time asshole, so just drop it.

[Bladestar]

Bethesda is a PC developer like valve and the xbox 360 is very similar to the PC to develop for.... PS3 owners are lucky they are getting this game... many PC like valve would rather hire an outside company to get their hands dirty... I am willing to bet they rather have the PC version work better than any other version... therefore the xbox 360 is their lead platform since they can easly ported to the PC and if something goes wrong they can delay only the PS3 version and start milking the PC and xbox 360 version while the PS3 version gets cooked.

[zypher]

well, i was getting this one for my 360 anyway. figured it'd be cool to have Fallout on one system (360), and Oblivion on the other (PS3). moreso than shoddy ports, i think my biggest gripe with developers leading with 360 is that they don't take full advantage of the PS3 in the process. i know its all economics, but i'd rather they took full advantage of the PS3 if they can use it to produce visuals like GT5 Prologue, Killzone 2 and Heavy Rain. not that the 360 is a slouch, mind you.

[heyheyhey]

OMG OMG OH NOES, TEHRE VERSON WIL HAVE 0.1 MOR FRAYMES PER SEKOND ND AN XTRA TREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not bothered

Bethesda are good with the PS3 and i very much doubt the PS3 version will be far behind the 360 version

in fact, if they put some effort in- there's no reason why the versions have to be any different

[ParaDise_LosT]

as much as I love my 360, Im definatly getting this for my PC
as a Fallout Fan, I think PC is where it belongs and where it should be played :P

[brothersimon]

Awesome, it only makes sense to use every multiplatform game as 360 leading it.

I mena, why use a shytstation when u can use the better alternative?

i bet ps3droids cut themselves when they read stuff like this xD

[Superiorrior]

“We had a year’s head start on the 360 because it came out a year earlier, so we had final dev hardware to work with earlier on than we did with PS3,” he said. “But as this point all three of them are pretty much on par. The goal is that, if I get three versions in here and hide the console or PC and just had them running on the screen, that you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.”

Learn how to read asshole.

[Jdoki]

I'm sure I'll get disagrees for this, but as a proud owner of a 360, PS3 and Wii with no favourite console this is my take on the subject.

For many devs the The 360 is now the 'baseline' for development. Especially with PC centric developers. I don't say this because I think it's underpowered compared to PS3 but because it's been out longer.

As time goes on developers will have to look carefully at other factors when choosing a 'lead' platform. For example, familiarity with architecture; requirement for a hard drive and so on.

It seems like PC focused devs moving to console development are leaning towards the 360 as lead. The simple reason being that the 360 is nearer to PC architecture compared to the PS3. The devs probably have tools that can very easily be re-worked to suit the 360's environment better. This makes even more sense if the devs are looking to launch on PC as well as 360 / PS3.

On the flip side, you have developers like Criterion, who are very console focused using the PS3 as lead platform. In this case you end up with a product that is almost identical on both (except that the 360 version is slightly gimped with online play).

In general it appears that developers who lead on the PS3 create products that are more comparable cross-platform. Developers who lead on the 360 seem to make inferior PS3 games.

There's not a lot we can conclude from this. But speculating I could say that the PS3 is perhaps a more sensible lead. Once a developer cracks the nut of PS3 development, it makes life easier moving the games to 360 (I'm not saying it's easier to port - it's not - just that PS3 development seems to take longer, so when it's not left as an after-thought everyone wins).

Is the lack of a standard HDD and 'only' DVD-9 capacity limiting factors holding back multiplatform PS3 games? Maybe.

Are devs who are 'battling' with PS3 development as a lead platform holding back the potential of 360 games? Maybe.

For example, would Burnout Paradise have been a better game if the 360 was the lead? Would GTAIV have been a bigger game if it was PS3 exclusive?

The only real way to judge one console against another (for those fanboys who need to justify their purchase) is by their exclusives. Could Uncharted or Metal Gear Solid 4 be done on the 360 to the same level? Could Gears of War 2, Fable 2 or Alan Wake be created on PS3?

In my opinion there isn't a single 360 exclusive that could not be done on the PS3 just as well. However there are a few PS3 exclusives that I don't think would work as well on 360 when taking in to account developers having to create for non-HDD 360's and possibly in future the limitations of DVD-9 capacity.

Either way, if Fallout 3 is inferior on PS3 compared to 360 then I think it's more an indication of a developers ability rather than an inherent flaw in the PS3 - we've seen enough cross-platform and exclusive titles to know the PS3 is not underpowered. If they look the same, then everyone can be happy (until some idiot gets out a magnifying glass and starts counting pixels!!)

[Xi]

however, I think that there hasn't been a single title announced on either console that can't be done on it's rival.

Even kojima said he could do MGS4 on the 360, that's where a lot of the MSG4 on the 360 rumors came from.

[InMyOpinion]

Oblivion was great on both platforms so why worry?

I'm not surprised that the 360 is the lead platfrom though.

[xsteinbachx]

This isn't an old article, but it's old news. I remember reading that the 360 was the lead platform already. I'm sure it'll be great on both machines. Just enjoy the world that is Fallout.

[Honolulu]

PC is the lead platform,
if it isn't, the game insta-fails.

[Honolulu]

If you're going to disagree, go play fallout 1 and 2.
Then come back and elaborate on your thoughts, please.

[Jdoki]

That's an interesting point of view.

Are you saying that Fallout should continue in the same genre/format as Fallout 1 and 2?

I can't see why a console lead version of Fallout can not maintain the aesthetic, atmosphere and humour of the PC originals.

I'm only assuming here, but I guess you have an issue with the change of game play style? If that's a case it's no fault of consoles, it's a change in gamers tastes (and to a degree what marketing and demographics force on us, I'll conceded). Fallout 3 isn't being dumbed down, it's simply being developed for gamers of 2008.

Could Fallout 1 or 2 ONLY have worked on a PC? Not in my opinion. That would be to suggest something like Disgaea (which I would consider a series just as powerful and classic as Fallout) should not exist because, by some assumption, console gamers are in some way not sophisticated enough, or only crave dumbed down game play and eye candy.

[OLD MAN]

so thats why its lead on that machine.

ps3 has no known boundaries, and 180s low headroom limit is out so its easily possible to do the max they can with 180 which is glitches of ware, and port it over to ps3 and pc, the real next gens.

[4D]

You still sipping that Sony coolaid??? Wating for 1080P 120fps 4D graphics. The PS3 knows no boundries because nobody will ever tap into it's supposed power. Why??? Because it doenst exist. It and the rest of Sonys lies left the building with Ken Kuturagi. Were still waiting for the PS2 to give us CGI-quality graphics. The PS2 never lived up to it's hype either. It couldnt even do Anti-Aliasing. F*CK the N64 and Dreamcast could do Anti-Aliasing but not the super computer PS2???

Stop being mad. I'm tired of the PS3's bottlenecked hardware holding 360 games back. Make the 360 the lead platform and optimize it to use the larger amount of unified RAM and more advanced GPU developers. Stop spending more money to develop on the PS3 when you can accomplish the same thing for less money and less time and alot easier on the 360.

Thats why the 360 is the lead platform. Easier developent. Cheaper development. Plus 360 owners will actually buy the damn game.

WAIT B3YOND A$$ BANDITS!!!!!

[Z F1GHT3RS]

in case you didnt know droid/drone/ dark pooper/ mkIII/ sir kentucky/queen kaz it is called xbox 360 not 180 u dumb ass knob gobbler bum bandit.

gay station 3
watch a movie not a game.
delay beyond.
this is installing.

[Fux4Bux]

Bad sign for the quality of the game if PC isn't the lead platform. Oblivion's interface and overall depth was ruined to try and appeal to console morons.
Doesn't really matter for PS3 because Bethesda already made the Oblivion port for it better than the 360 version. Fallout3 probably the same thing.

[Honolulu]

First and foremost, the games visuals and the depth is going to be downgraded, a lot.
secondly, the only reason Bethesda made the game as an fps/tps is to kick fans of the franchise in the nuts and sell more games to the console-fps-demographic.

Now, I would'nt touch anything by Bethesda even witha 7 feet pole, but I would have given Fallout 3 a try if it was'nt going to be dumbed down for consoles.. even if I hate what they've done with the perspective and the fallout-universe and its aesthetics as a whole, so far.

They said it wasn't going to be an Oblivion with guns, they lied. :/

[Gaara_724]

has any of the fallouts been anny good i need to ask because ive never heard of them and this one looks good so i might get it??

[Honolulu]

Fallout 1 and 2 are considered some of the best western rpgs ever made, if not thee best.
The games were made by Black Isle Studios, a division of former interplay.

Black Isle studios also worked on a lot of other really amazing titles like Icewind Dale 1+2, Baldur's Gate 1+2 and Planescape: Torment.

If you haven't played any of those games, do so.
I highly recommend Planescape: Torment and Fallout 1+2.

[Hydrolex]

lol

who gives a sh!t to that game anyway ?

[4D]

You do b!tchboy. The fact you felt the need to comment means you feel insecure and jealous about the 360 still being the game developers choice for games. Sucks doesnt it. That the supposed SuperComputer PS3 cant even keep up with the Xbox 1.5 as Lying A$$ 4D claiming Ken Kuturagi said.

Who cares???? You care Cum Chugger. You dont care then dont comment. Get owned.

WAIT B3YOND D!CK RIDER

[TruthBTold]

YOu know, this is old news, wonder why it got posted, one thing I do know is who approved it. Its funny how when people post these articles that they feel are somehow "anti-ps3" then you see the true die hard fanboys comeout and hate on PS3, its the very few chances they get to do it so its amusing. Go on, let it all out until you have to go back to hiding. I really dont see how xbox 360 being lead platform will make PS3 a bad game, like people mentioned before just look at Oblivion. Anyways, I am getting this game, not on top of my list but I could use a RPG before FFXIII.

[kwicksandz]

Games like fallout and mass effect > jrpgs

[Honolulu]

Kinda hard to compare the genres though, they're so different.

(Singleplayer rpgs)
Western rpgs = less fleshed out characters, but often overall more freedom of choice regarding quests
J-rpgs = very linear, high sense of development of the characters, few sidequests, can have a more engaging storyline because of the linearity.

I'd say both genres are stagnating and have done so for some time now.
I mean, if a game like fallout, which was made in 1997, has more freedom and diversity than a game like Mass Effect or Oblivion, there's something really wrong going on with our standards.

Too hard to pick, I've got favorites on both sides of the fence.

[boJABER]

gona be a great game on both systems.

[NOLA]

you have the worst game in history as your avetar, why would i listen to you?
jks!

yes, fallout will most definitely be amazing

[GameHero]

Will Fall out 3 = crappy port

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

LMFAO. When will the ownage stop????

[Xi]

Many people still think that the PS3 is much more advanced than the 360, and that a game being developed for the 360 will somehow lower the quality on the ps3 version.

If the PS3 really held a major boost in performance, then 90% of the titles would play better on the ps3, there would be no excuse for it to look worse, none, no "harder to program for", no "the system is too advanced", none . This was the obvious case last gen when when almost all titles looked better on the original Xbox even though most games being developed were using the ps2 as the lead platform.

The argument that the PS3 architecture is soooo~ advanced, blah blah blah, is bull. Every person who has a comp sci degree knows how to do parallel thread coding. They have whole classes dedicated to multiple thread and parallel program and architecture. Yes it's not a standard in the _game industry_ but is by no means unique to only the PS3. If you're going to use a straw man argument like that, you better know your stuff.

both systems have advantages and disadvantages to one other, each system will have have optimization designed specifically for it, even on multiplatfrom titles. You will see that in exclusives titles more readily, since the ps3 is weak at conditional and branching code(via it's superiority on parallel code) you will have better AI on the Xbox version, but higher polygon counts on the PS3 version. The Xbox will have more shaders and memory available at any given time, the PS3 will have slightly more advanced shader techniques (dedicated pipelines), and more storage of disk space, even slightly better physics.

TLDR version: Nothing that has been shown on either system can't be replicated on the other system. Put the bellyaching to rest and either buy both consoles to see for yourself. Or just STFU and accept it.

When you measure specs/games/tech on a system you're doing two things, either trying to justify your purchase, implying you don't actually like the system you bought, or you're just an asshole trying to justify your small penis by inflating your e-peen.

Second of all, when they say the lead platform is the 360, that's only for the consoles. Every games lead platform is a PC even if the games are being made exclusively to the 360 or PS3, you can't simply render code and play it on a console, thats only done in the later stages of development, when you starting alpha stages, most of the time it also requires disks to do. Before that all code is written and tested on a PC that is emulating a consoles architecture. Not to mention that developing for the 360 is almost identical to developing for the PC. There's about a 10-15% difference between developing on the 2.

[Superiorrior]

Obviously code is hindering them, for those Dev's that got it down pat you see games like Uncharted.

[KBDuB]

For you people being immature and not going to buy this game cause it's lead on the 360.. well, good for you. This game will be great, whether it was lead on the PS3 or 360. Too bad you won't be able to play this game.. Hmm, how many of you bought Oblivion??

[Z F1GHT3RS]

turd buggler
knob gobbler
d!ck rider all true names for the droids though

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

After playing Oblivion for 360 and experiencing freeze after freeze, I gotta say I am disappointed in Betheseda's decision. Argue all you want about the minute differences in performance between the 2 consoles, but all I know is that Oblivion ran a hell of a lot better on ps3.
But it makes sense they would go w/ the weakest/more problematic platform that way it will ensure it works for all. It just sucks when you think of the potential it would of have on the other platforms, and how the 360 is basically stifling the dev. of this game.

My excitement Factor just went down a couple notches on this one - For shame Betheseda, For shame : - (

[Xi]

Is that the same thought pattern you use when you hear ps3 developers saying stuff like

http://www.n4g.com/News-353...
http://www.gamespot.com/new...
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...
http://gamersvue.wordpress....

And I've seen articles for both insomniac and naughty dog saying the exact same thing...

Is that because it's the weaker system and the xbox is more capable at handling those games?

Now I'm not the one saying this, I'm just inferring that from what you said.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

I guess the game will be limited and have to chopped to fit the dvd9. Looks like it will be another hardrive leech but since they will break it up into downloads you have to buy using your credit card. I think I will rent this for ps3, say no to dlc and wait for Sony to surprise us with a 50 gig RPG!
Hope Bethesda learns from this when they sit down and discuss Bly-ray technology.

[4D]

IT means this game will rock on the 360 because it wont be held back by the PS3's bottlenecked inferior hardware and poor development tools.

Meanwhile the PS3 will get a craptastic port because it cant handle 360 games, and you will probably have to preinstall it thanks to that slow a$$ Blu-Ray drive.

WAIT B3YOND TURD BURGLAR

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

LMFAO @ TURD BURGLER

[caffman]

I'm LMAO at the fact he can't either 1) use a spell checker (pathetic) or 2) spell BLU-RAY (even worse!)

[sak500]

HOw about wearing T-shirts with "SONY, MAKE GAMES NOT BLURAY MOVIES FOR PS3"

[tehReaper]

Sounds about right. :P

[JasonXE]

stop referring to the 360 as the inferior platform compared to the ps3. Kind of ignorant/misinformed/fanboy people who continue to say such things. The only thing ps3 has over the 360 is it abilty to store higher capacity space but multiple discs rarely appears in games atm. Other then that they both have the ability to produce the same game. All the ps3 games out now and in the future can look the same or better one the 360 if the developers were given an ample amount of time to do so and visa versa.

Also devs will probably want to make ps3 as led in the future because of the frustration of porting 360 games to ps3. Its alot easier if you do ps3 first and have the 360 next. Coding & porting to the 360 is a lot easier then the complex ps3 counterpart. Hopefully with grasping how to code effencintly for the ps3, devs can produce better games for each system. Also resources can be better utizile to make the game better overall.

random blurts:
Oblivion looks better on the ps3 b/c of more dev time with the game. 360 dev tools are better than ps3 dev tools...kind of obvious.

[Solid_Skip]

this is a rent got to see which one is better first before i buy it

[Mr Tretton]

http://forums.n4g.com/m_853...

[aaron5829]

Oblivion ran on the ps3 nicely. No problems.

:)

[NOLA]

ran BETTER on the ps3 if anything

[HelghastGeneral]

all multi platform games have to compansate for 360's inferior processor and overall graphics.

every developer tries to stay neutral by saying that both systems have strengths and weaknesses.

the truth is the only weakness is xbox1.5 you know much better every multi platform game could of been if it was made to take full advantage of ps3s hardware.

I just can't wait for metal gear 4 and killzone 2, resistence 2 and all the big exclusives to completely blow redringofdeathxbox1.5 fanboys away.

these fanboys dont even know how badly multiplatform games have been downgraded due to 360 and microsoft it is such a shame.

[Z F1GHT3RS]

wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait wait waitwait wait wait beyond u f|_|cking biatches

install beyond

' just can't wait for metal gear 4 and killzone 2, resistence 2'
well you are gonna have to droid like you have been waitying for the past 2 years

delay beyond

[caffman]

you've got to admit that you have been waiting a while for that one...

[Mr Tretton]

here

http://forums.n4g.com/m_853...

[caffman]

shame that none of the lemmings will buy it (because your knickers are in a twist)and they will think "screw the PS3 then if they only buy movies"

[Dark General]

Don't really care, i'm sure the Ps3 won't be a broken mess compared to the 360 version. Even if the Ps3 does end up not as crisp sharp looking as the 360 version i won't have anything to compare it to or anything. What you don't know won't hurt you.

[jones smokey]

y the heLl can i not get my code for mgs4 beta, i live in the uk and i have been trying since, it is seriously pissing ,me off......wtf konami,!!! some one help me or share ur code with me may b it will work, i want to play the beta =(

[NOLA]

Konami dont switch the servers on till the 21st
they onlt let you download it noy to stop the masses of people trying to download it then

[NOLA]

Konami dont switch the servers on till the 21st
they onlt let you download it noy to stop the masses of people trying to download it then

[boJABER]

looooool NOLA,

well i do agree pes 2008 is not the greatest game of pes franchise but surely it does have a nice cover to use as an avatar

[andron]

As Bethesda has plenty PS3 experience now, it shouldn't have anything to say.