Miyamoto's "never seen" Ratchet and Clank

Insomniac Games said a while back that it was "flattered" that the spherical worlds of Mario Galaxy were inspired by Ratchet and Clank. But Miyamoto says he's never heard of it.

Official Nintendo Magazine UK asked the father of Mario what he thought about Insomiac's comments in a recent interview, to be published in the next issue (Issue 25). But instead of acknowledging Insomniac's work, he asked: "Is it a PC game?"

Miyamoto said he was "surprised" by Insomniac's comment. "In terms of the spherical worlds and anti-gravity," he went on to explain, "we had the original idea as soon as we finished the development of Mario 64 and had been experimenting with it for many years, even on the N64."

[ktchong]

The concept of a spherical world was espoused by Pythagoras - that's 570 BC. Probably even earlier than that. And many philosophers and writers have recycled spherical world way, way earlier before Insomniac and Ratchet & Clank.

Insomniac was just being an arrogant, egoistical prick by claiming they "invented" the spherical world.

[Bad_Karma]

Insomniac was just being an arrogant, egoistical prick by claiming they "invented" the spherical world

and Miyamoto is a lying fu@k saying he never heard of R&C unless he`s so far up his own ass that he thinks he doesn't have to keep an eye on what other developers are doing .

[ktchong]

Ratchet & Clank is not exactly a big hit in Japan.

I bet he has not heard of BioShock either.

[Bad_Karma]

so you can really imagine top devs from US ,UK or anywhere else for that matter saying " Mario Galaxy ? ..never heard of it ! ...yeah right

[ktchong]

Miyamoto is more concerned with his own business than one of the hundreds of franchises on another platform.

He probably just assumed R&C was a PC game because PC games had always been the forefront of revolutionary ideas until quite recently.

[Bad_Karma]

Sorry but i just dont believe he`s never heard of it ..he must live with his head in the clouds not to have atleast heard of it if not seeing it... i dont believe he said he was inspired by Ratchet and Clank to make Mario Galaxy either the man knows his own business but i`ll guarantee he knows other peoples too. Id say the only thing anyone at Nintendo doesn't know is how to get some stock into shops .

[PS360WII]

bad karma come on really? This guy lives, breaths, and sleeps Nintendo and you are upset because he can't keep track of what Sony's newest mascot is/was? Come on.

[Bad_Karma]

lol i aint upset, i just think he`s full of it ...either that or full of himself :)

[PS360WII]

lol yea those are 2 possibilities

[Apocwhen]

He's full of it alright...Full of brilliant ideas.

[ShadoWulf]

"so you can really imagine top devs from US ,UK or anywhere else for that matter saying " Mario Galaxy ? ..never heard of it ! ...yeah right" -BadKarma

It's MARIO. Everyone's heard of it. However, R&C hasn't got nearly as much reputation. Mario is legendary. The industry salivates over his next game (or used to, at least). I'm sure Miyamoto's got other things to deal with... like running the 3rd best company in Japan.

[gaffyh]

Miyamoto is either really stupid and hasn't heard of R&C, or he's very arrogant. And if they were experimenting with spherical worlds/anti-gravity after Super Mario 64, shouldn't the Gamecube Mario (I think Super Mario Sunshine?) have had spherical worlds/anti-gravity.

Also Insomniac is also arrogant for thinking that Galaxy is a copy of R&C, it's completely different.

[Lord_Mike]

I've just heard of R&C this year. So I believe him, and no I do not support Nintendo. I sold my Wii a while back for a PS3.

[InMyOpinion]

I usually confuse Ratchet & Clank with Jak & Daxter.

[Baba1906]

i must agree with karma. how can someone who works in game-making not know, what every ps3 player knows, and most of the anti fans too. even hardcore xbox fans know what ratchet and clank is. they probably havent played it, but they would never say they havent heard about it. he might confuse the platform whatever, but you must have heared about it.

[Andronix]

Whilst you would expect a gaming giant like Miyamoto to be aware of what is going on in the market, he is probably telling the truth. With so many different minds across the planet it's not unheard of for different people to come up with the same idea, story, music etc

either way. Galaxy -Good! Ratchett -Good! Meat -Good! Jam -Good! What's not to like?!

[Prismo_Fillusion]

You speak the truth!
Bubbles!

[Lord Cheese]

whats not to like you say? How about quotes from friends. Or how about the fact i recognised it.

<<Performs lobotomy on self

[Rikitatsu]

Miyamoto is pretending !!!!!!

[HeartlesskizZ]

then he probably never heard of MGS series at all...
how can you live in Asia and never heard of R&C? is like living in Europe and never heard of PES

[ShadoWulf]

well, he's kind of HAD to have heard of MGS, considering Snake's in SSBB. They can't slip THAT one by him.

[Staircase]

Where did Insomniac say it was flattered that Mario Galaxy was inspired by Ratchet?

PS: I'm not saying they didn't, I am just interested to see the original source. ;)

[Killjoy3000]

lol it was on n4g and i dont know where the original source is but all i can say is is thats one funny avatar you got there.lol

[Delriach]

They never said they invented the idea. Insomniac was asked a question to what games do they think were inspired by ideas from their series. They said that the idea that Mario Galaxy's spherical worlds may have been inspired by their games would be awesome.

They never once claimed that it was their idea or that mario even had the inspiration from them. It was a thought that never was definitive and was nowhere near being egotistical.

If you read the interview in which that statement came from you would see.

[randomGuyOnline]

Why do you have two disagrees?

[NikV3]

he's lying or very coky not looking at what games sony has in there line up. i think Nintendo is blinded by there success and really need to start developing another console. bye the time the wii sells 40mill people will be tired of it, which isn't a bad thing because now they can take all this money they made and really show why they are the kings of innovation with a next gen console with crazy features

[Vojkan]

I dont think he is lying. Like that guy that makes GrandT games, he never heard of Forza games. Thats what he said in an interview few months ago.
Japanese are very arrogant when it comes to game desing/development. They think they are much better than western developers. Only Japanese developer that cares and checks out western games is Hideo Kojima.
And this should not be surprise when it comes to Japanese market/people. just look at sales of western games there and its pathetic.

[forum_crawler]

"And this should not be surprise when it comes to Japanese market/people. just look at sales of western games there and its pathetic."

Is it not possible that western developers tend to generate western-style games that just simply do not appeal as much to the Japanese market? The comments of how "They like weird so-called-games there in Japan" are endless in this website, so wouldn't it be possible that the lack of success in Japan is due to a stereotype? Is it not possible to believe that the Japanese consumer assumes that western development just doesn't have the same magic that Japanese development has?

I mean, consider this: Most people in North America believe that Japanese vehicles are built better than North American vehicles, even when they are built in NA!!! Just look at Camry, Accord, and Altima sales. The numbers are telling.

[wiizy]

why would miyamoto care about seing an average game like ratchet and clank... the man only create classics.... i bet he seen bioshock..thats pretty good. but he'll come up with something better soon

[felidae]

well. for me, Ratchet tops SMG in every way.

[laved]

Miyamoto has no time to pay attention to its 'competitors'. He's too busy coming out with games that actually bring something new to the industry, like Mario, Zelda and Metroid!
Wait, what?

[Silverwolf]

He's never heard of Pizza either! And we all know how inventive it is to have some fat italian jumping bean save the world on every Nintendo console released!

[Bubble Buddy]

I'm getting sick of Nintendo getting all the good games. Also EFFIN stop with Mario. I'm sick of him. Go make new IP's. What's next...
Cooking with Mario, Math Skills with Mario, A link to the Future: Zelda. Metroid: Unleashed, Pokemon Purple, Pokemon Black, Mario Curling, Mega Mario Party 1, Mario Strikers High Voltage, Mario and Sonic: At the NBA Championships, Super Mario Underground, Mario Kart Extreme, I can go no and on

Back to Subject, If he never heard of Ratchet and Clank, I've never heard of Sonic

[c64days]

that was sarcasm right?

[Strife Lives]

Is it a pc game? Lmao. Classic

[EaziG]

Probably because Miyamoto's "never be allowed out of marioland"

[PS360WII]

It's not the end of the world that one developer hasn't heard of the other. How many are there?

[bootsielon]

"Insomniac Games said a while back that it was "flattered" that the spherical worlds of Mario Galaxy were inspired by Ratchet and Clank"

They said they would be flattered IF miyamoto was indeed inspired. Way to take things out of context, morons.

[ShadoWulf]

Hey, we actually agree on something.

[Jamaicangmr]

And here i was thinking that he was a very professional and upfront guy. I bet he never heard of Crash,Sly or the Jak series what a joke.

[ChickeyCantor]

i don't think this guy has a reason to lie, if he did know it he would give his opinion about it simple as that.
he has no motive to lie about it.

true, its a bit odd but really...i see no reason why he would lie about it.
Spherical levels were done before, in super mario world 2 and in sonic adventures 2( and i bet allot more ).
so really what is his motive? even if he heard about R&C...what effect would it have in the first place?

i wouldn't be surprised if other developers/gamedesigners never heard of another game.
they have their own work to focus on.
i'm not a developer but i'm gaming for almost 20 years now and i just discovered games i never heard of.
We are only humans not super hero's =P

[DeZimatoR]

Pretty arrogant.

This guy should learn a thing or two about humblety with Kojima for example, who just recently applauded Ubisoft for their bet on an innovative like Assassin's Creed.

[wiizy]

miyamoto give credit to above average games.. .why would he have heard of ratchet and clank..the game hasnt even sold a million copies yet...its not a big game or a big deal...maybe for sony fans and insomniac

[Jamaicangmr]

Thats a man you can respect. Commending his fellow developers unlike say Mr.Itagaki who bad mouths everyone who makes games in the same genre as any of his projects. Am not sayin Mr. Miyamoto is like him i would never place anyone in the same class as him without a Damn good reason. However him sayin he's never heard of it then going on to ask if it's a PC game just shows His mindset. Maybe didnt want to admit it because of Insomniac sayin they are honored that Mr. Miyamoto used one of their ideas but come on now denyin knowledge of the series is a bit much sir.

[kobonline]

I think that what really matters, not if the guy never heard of the game before.

[sol]

Miyamoto is so in a box.

I wonder what galaxy would have been like if he produced the game at the studio rather than over the phone. For a recent gamer TV interview suggested that one of the other leads had more to do with it's direction and i bet they heard of R&C.

[Caliber]

We can only speculate if he truly was inspired by R&C or not.
However acting like he hasn't heard of R&C and doesn't even know which platform it's on sounds like complete BS to me, so I find it pretty hard to believe anything he says..

[DethWish]

hah pwnt >.<

[Leg-End]

But he's obviously an arrogant twat that has no respect for other people in the same industry as him - he knew fine well that Rachet & Clank is a popular PlayStation franchise, in fact it's the first ever western-developped series to be bundled with hardware in Japan.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

i gave that up after the 64. put mario in future tools of destruction and it will probably get 20 out of 10 . lame ass people

[mccomber]

Now THAT is a fanboy. All respect to the man's work, but not knowing about a huge series that is in direct competition with your own? He's either lying and being arrogant, or stuck under a colorful, smiley faced rock in Mario's world.

[Game13a13y]

most of the time, western games are not that popular in asia. unlike japanese games, most of them are pretty famous all over the world. you westerners might think they are famous, but no, sorry.

[PS360WII]

yes indeed. It isn't arrogant about him not know a game that you feel is so important to the world. He's to busy with his job and plus yea it's not so hot in Japan so why does he need to look at it or know about it?

[mccomber]

I'd think that he'd want to keep up with what's going on in his industry, and especially be aware of games that compete directly with his own. Doesn't mean he needs to play them or anything, but I'd hope anyone in a creative position would be more... open, shall we say? He may be focusing on Japan, but he works on a global level, and as such he should be aware of what's going on in gaming everywhere, not just in his own country, let alone company.

[PS360WII]

I just don't see how R&C is in direct competition with Mario. They are both entirely different games/genres. I look at R&C as a make-shift shooter(or at least weapon based game) before I'd call it a platformer.

[OOG FunK]

lmao stupid ass insomniac with there dumb assumptions lmfao....see miyamoto is gaming greatness at its best....he doesnt have to steal ideas from other people...he makes his own

[xboxrumble]

-now there goes your answer right there.

How much has MARIO sold World wide?
-Now there goes why he doesn't give a flying f$%k.

Nintendo is rolling in Money, they could make a new Wii and DS anything they choose to. So you hardcore gamers out there nintendo has not needed you to make money the last 10 years.

I m still not sure how they survived, anyhow MR M does not give ash@t and you or your R&C.

Go anywhere in the world and people know MARIO, for R&C, I couldn't say the same, not even close.

[Kraken]

Hadn't it been for nintendo's handheld success they would be bankrupt by now, I'm telling ye.

[texism]

Kraken, everyone knows that Nintendo always sells its consoles at a gain right from the start.Even though the n64 and gc flopped, they still made money off of it.

So...your comment is pretty much full of fail and stupid.

[GodsHand]

I find it hard to belive he never heard of the game. It's advertised everywhere like crazy. Unless he has a secret tunnel that goes directly to his office from his home.

[Garrison]

Can someone in nintendo make a game without this bastard's characters or taking all the credit? NO.
People need to stop licking this guys Nvts.
Nintendo needs to die yesterday.

[kobonline]

wussies

[texism]

The Mario 128 tech demo, complete with spherical worlds, was first shown at the official GC unveiling back in 2001 before the first instalment of Rachet & Clank even existed.

END OF STORY

[Andronicus]

Miyamoto; " I Could Have Made halo"...........with or without a pink angel? lol.... yeah i think hes full of sh!t, he may not have played R&C but he has definetly seen or heard of the games.

[aba]

Why would Miyamoto lie? If hes never seen R&C, then maybe, just maybe...GASP! Hes never seen it? Miyamoto is G*D, stop hating.

[LiquifiedArt]

Is a fantastic game and in my opinion trounces mario galaxy. With teh variety of gameplay, grahics, Humor, Story. Dont say i didnt tell u. Try it for yourself.

[MakgSnake]

I hate that freaking bastard. All his interviews he is like praising himself. I know that you created that little annoying fat ugly mofo mario, but that doesn't make you god. I hate him so much. He is a lier and a freaking homosexual.

I am so freaking sure he knows what Ratchet and Clank is and probably played it to death to see if he can impliment some of its features in its next gay mario game.....

I hate that guy. He is the worst.

[aba]

You need help freak, seriously.

[ChickeyCantor]

"TW LW Title Publisher Fo rmat Weekly Sales
1 NE Super Paper Mario Nintendo Wii 144,192
2 NE Fate/Stay Night [Realta Nua] Kadokawa Shoten PS2 134,887"

just under Super Paper Mario when that came out

does anyone here knows about FATE/Stay Night?
what is that no?...whut?.......yes its a japanese game...do we all know about this game?
ask any western developer, they will all say no.

you people have to be less narrowminded.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

How do you not know about a game . I dont support the mario games anymore so i dont care . I bought ratchet fun ass hell.

[Figboy]

The Internet: The biggest game of "Telephone" in the world.

Insomniac never said "Yeah, Miyamoto took the idea for Super Mario Galaxy from our spherical worlds in the Ratchet and Clank series. We rock."

they said, "it *WOULD be cool *IF the spherical worlds in Super Mario Galaxy were inspired by the spherical worlds in Ratchet and Clank."

some people *SERIOUSLY have a problem with reading comprehension nowadays.

sheesh. anything to start a retarding fricking flamewar.

god i hate the internet...

[fopums]

I've never heard of N4G......

[kobonline]

It's pretty sad when you think about it.

And lets not even talk about the sales comparison between those two games. sheesh!

[HarryEtTubMan]

If I saw what tools of destruction looked like in comparison with my game... yea I would be pretending I didn't know what it was either.

[Salvadore]

Once they sell 12 million in a year, they think they have won the console race.

[Dmack79]

IN case you don't know about it, I'll fill ya in. THE BIG THREE were there all at the same time. Sure they weren't all presenting at the same time. But I GUARANTEE you that the best Devs in the world were there watching each conference - yes, this includes Miyamoto (yawn).

Whether they were there to see and enjoy what other innovative developers have created or if they were there to somehow steal the other devs ideas, ALL the top devs were watching what other devs created in one way or another. This Miyamoto guy is obviously a LIAR!

[Astro]

Probably nobody in the world (except for brain-dead PStards) care about that franchise. So, doesn't surprise me to see that Miyamoto has never seen that ridicule lombax. LOL!

[Bubble Buddy]

So i guess you DON'T CARE so much that you come to Ratchet threads...

[randomGuyOnline]

Double Post

[americanGTA]

why cant wii all just get along?

[FF7numba1]

miyamoto is lying his a*s off.

[R M Spender]

is the last hope for games!!

[c64days]

He think he's so great, the blood floating to hes brain.

I don't know what's wrong with this industry anymore. few "smarts" reporters re-invent the therm of gaming and consoles. they decide that a guy like this that all hes carrier is recycling and old game (older then me) is the best creator in the industry? how the hell is that possible?

let me tell you something. since mario came out, there were allot of platform games , and they much better then the old freaking mario crap.

farther more. developers have to play other developer games, this way the keep in track and have new ides for there next project. to say hes (miyashity) didn't heard of R&C which it's a big success game at the same genre of hes games, IT'S A FREAKING LIE

[White-Sharingan]

Interviewer: Kojima productions recently stated that they created the stealth action genre with Metal Gear Solid, what do you guys think of this?

Splinter Cell Team: Im sorry, I dont know what your talking about, whats Metal Gear Solid? is it a Genesis game?

[Wii60_FTW]

"Is it a PC game?"

--LMAO. MIYAMOTO IS GOD!!!

[lawler]

I can easily believe him. I hadn't heard of R+C either until a few weeks ago. It's only a really well known franchise if you're a sony fanboy. Miyamoto would be way too busy to keep track of stuff like that.