PS3’s Capabilities Surpassed with PlayStation Vita, Still A “Car Wreck”? – NGV Episode #49

"This week Nick discusses the criticism the PlayStation Vita received and its relation to a “car wreck”. Nick speaks on the company’s statements and provides insight on their outspoken views. Nick also speaks on the recent PlayStation Vita press release that officially revealed the amount of system memory (RAM) and video memory (VRAM) built into the upcoming gaming handheld."

-TheGamerAccess.com

[fluffydelusions]

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's capabilities have been surpassed. It's just the way Sony allocated the memory for the PS3 which is why there is no cross game chat. Poor decision on Sony's part TBH but at least they've learnt from their mistake and fixed it in the PSV.

[DarkCharizard_]

The device itself is awesome, but it won't be very successful considering the other portable options and the price.

[piroh]

the price is very affordable even Nintendo is afraid

let's wait and see

[PSVita]

"the other portable options and price." like what the 3ds? what other portable options have two analog stick, none, nuff said. We all know your biased but seriously who isn't excited about this machine we know devs are that's for sure.

[Dramscus]

People seem to keep ruling out the two analogue sticks.

They are literally a game changer. When did console fps start becoming really popular. When the controllers started having these two sticks.

So no it's not going to be a car wreck. If it has Any fps as a launch title it's going to be like an autobot sized problem for the competition. If it launches with Call of Duty it's going to be more than tha.

The price is great I know plenty of people planning to buy it day one because of the price.

If you think the price is bad because it's closely priced to what the 3DS was priced at on launch, and think that because that failed then so will this. Well your a dolt, this isn't a 3DS, the whole world knows sony sells premium products, and most people expected the vita to launch at like 350-400 bucks because of that.

Aside from the 3ds which doesn't really compete with the dual analogue vita, yes I'm mentioning it again it sets them in different classes, phone's arent competition for it either.

It's not so much a portable device as a portable home console. Cell phones are for five minute gaming, and ds 3d or otherwise are for portable gaming experiences. This isn't offering that, at all. It's totally providing the same experience that I'll be getting on my tv.

Plus it makes the PS3 into a wii u like unit as they've said their planning to add such capabilities to the unit.
I think most people that own a ps3 will end up getting a vita.

Imagine remote play that actually works with every ps3 game.

I can't see this failing.

[BattleAxe]

DarkCharizard_ + 4h ago
The device itself is awesome, but it won't be very successful considering the other portable options and the price.
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DarkCharizard_ + 4h ago
Graphics wise - Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception or Gears of War 3

Quality wise - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword or Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
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[rjdofu]

@BattleAxe: he's a Nintendo fanboy to the core, an extreme one (i.e. stubborn, ignorant, illogical...), as rubbish as any extreme fanboy out there.

[AngryTypingGuy]

If the Vita has surpassed the PS3, does that mean that the PS3 Slim is going to be a centimeter thick?

[Ravenor]

Like the PSP right guys?

[silvacrest]

you are right about the dual analog thing, naysayers need to think about what is the most popular online multiplayer genre, FPS, you NEED dual analogs to play them well, voice chat is a nice bonus too

no other portable is capable of doing this, the 3DS has average graphics and one analog, tablets dont have the games nor the controls yet

the vita can dominate if the FPS junkies as well as handheld fans pick it up

[Kurt Russell]

Vita is an awesome bit of kit, but it won't dominate. It'll be just a more adult alternative in the hand helds which suits teen/tweens rather than 10 year olds.

[morganfell]

Ken Levine:

“It has dual analog sticks,” he told the PS Blog. “And I love shooters. You can finally play a shooter, a real shooter, on a handheld. Seriously, that’s a hole in my soul right now. Now I’ll have something I can play real shooters on, and that’s really important to me. It’s awesome.”

http://www.industrygamers.c...

[Iroquois_Pliskin]

wow, even at trolling you manage to fail darkcharizard....

[Christopher]

Other portable options are actually more expensive. iPhone 4, Android, tablets, etc. All of them cost more and have lower gaming capabilities.

It won't be as successful as desired because it doesn't do a lot more like a smartphone or tablet.

[gamingdroid]

***Other portable options are actually more expensive. iPhone 4, Android, tablets, etc. All of them cost more and have lower gaming capabilities.***

Yes, but the vast majority of those other devices also do a lot more than just gaming and in some areas have a higher spec and is smaller. Smaller tend to cost more.

Add on the fact that phones are subsidized by your cell phone carrier and is in many ways "almost" a necessity in our modern society while gaming is not even close to it.

I think PS Vita is a godsend for hardcore/mid-core gamers, but some of them might just find the phone fit's that void phone just fine and just stick with the big experience at home.

I think the market for handhelds is shrinking, especially the hardcore market.

[Christopher]

@gamingdroid: Think you failed to read that last sentence of mine.

[fluffydelusions]

@DarkCharizard_

Only time will tell I suppose. I'm hoping it does well personally.

[firemassacre]

who ever called vita a car wreck must have just gotten out of one.

[Parapraxis]

It was a dev who has made nothing but crap games (You can say that's subjective, but look at their history)
http://www.giantbomb.com/ly...

[Cablephish]

*CoUgH* Heavy Metal *cOUgh*

[DragonKnight]

@Parapraxis: Man did that guy make some awful games. This is the guy that said the Vita is a car wreck? He's got no authority to talk at all based on that list alone. Wow.

[3GenGames]

I'd love to see a PS3 RAM and memory map that you're referencing and see how the ram is so skewed. I mean, the programs NEVER have direct access to it, the PS3's compiler allocates the memory, the program doesn't know how weird it is.

[showtimefolks]

and for 249 its a great price point. cross game chat is a good feature but when its can't be done let's just move on

so what for a free online service we can't get cross game chat everything else is there along with awesome exclusives

what would you rather have?

cross game chat
or awesome exclusives

[nirwanda]

I still don't get the vita at all, it will get lots of downgraded ps3 games and the battery life won't be too great with all that power so its use will be restricted mainly to home use.
Lets be honest everyone given the choice of a ps3 game or a downgraded vita version your going to get the ps3 game everytime even if it doesn't get lot's of ports there are more then enough good home console games on the way to use your money elsewhere

[NiKK_419]

Actually I will probably start getting games on vita instead, simply because it's portable and is ps3 quality anyway.

[eclectified]

For the record, there was info out there from Sony that said battery life would be comparable to the PSP. Only time will tell, but if they're right, I'll be happy.

[damnyouretall]

yeah i had a day one vita preorder, i cancelled though. had choose the vita or uc3,gow3,deus ex, skyrim, madden , team ico and most definetly bf3. decisions decisions

[nycredude]

Nirwanda

Sony has said they are shooting to have the battery life the same or better than the psp. This is possible with smaller and more efficient chips and the oled screen, which uses very little power.

Psp was pretty much a Ps2 lite and look how that turned out. Psp was $199 not long ago which makes the Psv a steal at the $250 price point.

All the gamestop around my way report that trade ins for psp systems are high now. no doubt people are anticipating this handheld.

I know I am waiting for it.

[gw4k]

It is close enough to the power of the PS3 to be impressive. Not much of a difference really.

[JsonHenry]

I hear a lot of negative stuff about this Vita thing. But what I have read from the technical side, and what it is supposedly capable of, this may be the first Handheld I will buy since the Gameboy Advance.

[subtenko]

Reading all these comments has be seriously thinking "what if the psvita cause the 3ds to just die?" O_O I mean this thing is a monster of a portable console! This is gonna be a key step in improving gaming. Keysteps that companys take should be in a hall of fame somewhere.

"So and so first introduced dual analog sticks, this company came out with 3d, first 3d portable console, first console to use dvd."

Bring a tear in my eye..we've come a long way folks :) SO glad I found a hobby of playing video games in my spare time. One of the coolest forms of entertainment!

Agree or Disagree if you Agree or Disagree

[KingSlayer]

Are we supposed to be surprised by the Vita's increased capabilities? I don't get it. 2005 tech vs 2011 tech. With both systems playing nice together, what's the problem? As far as cross game chat, 5yrs of not having it should've been a sign. I do think it's possible and think it will make a late appearance as an app. Similar to what what done with the text chat rooms.

[silvacrest]

i agree with everything you said except cross chat coming through a app or something

like you said, 5 years have passed, still no cross chat, i think its safe to say its not coming this generation but saying that, this gen is almost over, in 2-3 years max, we will all have new consoles

[DaThreats]

Vita doesn't have the Cell CPU...
I think

[fluffydelusions]

Just because something has the Cell Processor doesn't make it better than anything else out there.

[hiredhelp]

Nope your right. it had a quad core microbased. arma cpu very simular to the ipad 2. but with the gpu inside wait was it tegra cant remeber it has more grunt.
but not just the hardware this beast has to offer but its the way you can use it touch screen sensors. six axis motion controll. i mean awsome.

[Ju]

Quad Cortex-A9 (4 latest gen Arm cores) and SGX534MP4+ (The '+' is some sort of Sony/Vita specific extension, MP4 means 4 GPU "cores"). No tegra. 2x iPad2 (gpu alone). http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[OpenGL]

I think the + refers to the fact that the GPU has 128MB of dedicated memory, possibly on an independent memory bus. Most SoCs like Tegra 2/3, OMAP4, A5, etc use a shared memory bus for the CPU and GPU.

The dedicated video memory on the Vita's SoC will give it a huge advantage over first gen quad core SoCs like Tegra 3.

[Ingram]

OpenGL always comes up with the wise POV lol

[Ju]

Let the big boys talk if you are not interested, thx. ;)

Yes, the dedicated VRAM is a surprise. But it'll require some fast system/vram interconnect. But Sony has experience with that in the PS3. So, I guess it is quite more then just the mem (a DMA engine perhaps?). Speculation...would be interesting to find out.

[Ingram]

I said wise, not "smartass".

Why the basis of every verbal communication on the internet has to be sarcasm by default? did I use /s?

I fully agree with OpenGL statements, almost always, hence, me lauding what he said.

I laugh because is funny he's always there to come up with useful technical advice, that's rare in N4G.

Also, I would understand you don't like me or whatever Ju, but let's keep that stinky paternalism aside for the moment being, please, at least until we find a real point of disagreement, "big boy".

[Zir0]

Its a car crash because there is no viable market for it. It will sell a few million to the hardcore but no casual gamer (the large majority of handheld gamers) is gong to choose Vita over an iPhone or an Android smart phone.

Give it a year and you will see what I mean.

@Below

Seriously guys stop living in the past. There WAS a portable market back in the day with the DS/PSP but things have changed you just have to look at what happened with the 3DS. All I know is you fanboys will be eating your words, just because Sony made it doesn't mean it will succeed and deep down you all know that as well.

[KingSlayer]

Are the iPhone and Android the reason there's no dedicated portable market? Wait, there is a dedicated handheld market! The PSP, DS, 3DS and Vita will sell AND continue to sell. No viable market for it? Are you serious?

EDIT: What happened to the 3DS was a price drop and sales increases. See, increase means more people have them. More sales = more support. But more so, the damn Vita isn't out yet, no one has a crystal ball and you're simply hating the company, not the device. Fear can be a bitch.

[Misterhbk]

How do you know the casual market makes up the majority of the handheld market? Because the iPad sells well?

71 million PSPs says yes, there is a market for it. There are people that want a core focused handheld, and even if they don't sell as much as the 3DS or iPad, hitting 70 million once again (which is very likely) would once again make them a success.

If you think about it this casual market is going to effect the 3DS a lot more than the Vita since this is the market Nintendo aims at and not the market that Sony aims at. Sony wants 360 console owners, and PS3 console owners to be the main audience to pick up the Vita. The heavy push of AAA titles should make this very clear. Will there be casual games? Of course there will be, but that will not be the main focus.

[fluffydelusions]

But you have to remember PSP, DS etc have been out for years. Mobile gaming on phones, tablets etc hasn't taken off till recently. Honestly, I'm on your side. I hope PSV and 3DS succeed because I hate gaming on phones, tablets in it's current state though I'll remain open minded for future possibilities.

[Peaceful_Jelly]

because the Wii, Kinect and DS sell well and all of these has the most casual support.

[Misterhbk]

@fluffy
I see exactly what you're saying, but the PSP and DS have continued to sell well even in the recent boom of iOS devices. Its not like they suddenly fell of the end of the world. They've remained relevant in the mobile world, despite being vastly outdated.

@peaceful
All of those devices sell well, and its fantastic, but again these devices are aimed at the casual market. That's who they were created for primarily. Devices like the Vita are not primarily for those markets. The Vita is for the millions upon millions of people who an deep game play with proper controls. Those aren't the same people who will be buying an ipod to play the games on that.

I just think its hilarious, now that the casual market is being targeted by some companies, that people believe gaining control of that market is the only sure fire way to success. Android devices will NEVER outsell Apple devices, but they're still considered successful.

Even if sony never outsells the 3DS or the Iphone/pod/pad, but they manage to build on the market that the PSP created and they continue to cater to the core audience that has been known to adopt their hardware then wouldn't that be a success?

Or is being the highest sold device the only way to be considered successful If so there are an awful lot of failed devices out there.

[Optical_Matrix]

Look at what happened to 3DS? Look at how despite there being 'no portable market in 2011' as you claim, it outpaced DS sales within the same time frame, and now that it's priced how it should be, is selling even more. We all know if Microsoft released a new handheld system your penis would be all over it. Simmer down Zir0, your biased opinions aren't required in this topic of conversation.

[Xof]

You are correct in saying that neither the Vita nor the 3DS appeal to casual gamers. You are correct in saying that casual gamers would be far more attracted to cheaper, more widespread devices like iPods, iPads, and mobile phones.

However, it's important to note that handheld gaming consoles have NEVER been very appealing to casual gamers. The only handheld console to do so was the Nintendo DS, and--like the Wii--Nintendo's appeal to casual gamers paid off big time.

Does that mean the PSP, the handheld console that only appealed to core gamers, was a failre? That it didn't sell?

No.

The simple fact of the matter is that the handheld gaming market is getting smaller... but it's not going away. Not yet. In fact, one could (easily) argue that large, cumbersome home consoles are more likely to become obsolete before handheld consoles.

And while other handheld technology is in competition with dedicated gaming devices like the Vita and 3DS... they simply don't offer the same quality gaming experience that appeals to core gamers, and, therefore, simply are not in the competition so far as core gamers are concerned. That may change, someday, but it doesn't look like it will happen any time soon.

And, really, the only thing we can say about the Vita and it's state with regard to tablets, mobile phones, and the like, is that Sony really missed a BIG opportunity with it. Sony could have made the Vita much more of an "omnitool" than the PS3--it can use 3G networks, so why not give it a simple phone? Or a special power-saving mode to play music on.

Sony could have easily made the Vita an iPad-killer, had the chosen to broaden its functionality. But they didn't. They chose to focus solely on the games.

Why?

Because handheld platforms are capable of surviving--of thriving--solely with the support of core gamers.

[shadow2797]

Cheaper? When was the last time you priced iPads, or even smartphones, for that matter?

The Vita is actually very competitively priced compared to those devices.

I agree with everything else you said, though.

[Ju]

Do we actually have numbers for a non-handheld console gaming market? Just because a device sells, does not quantify its specific market, that is mobile gaming. In $ (or currency), not titles sold, please. And other than recurring revenue for Apple, but for developers (e.g. EA's revenue share in the iOS/Android mobile gaming market - compared to other platforms).

I really cannot see a viable gaming market on those devices other then Angry Birds and Co.

[TBM]

yes ziro im going to get a true gaming experience from my dumba$$ droid 2 phone with no proper controls, or some stupid a$$ tablet again with no proper controls and whose battery life on both will die within minutes of trying to play an actual true game with substance not some dumb flash/finger swiping/poking game.

[dredgewalker]

@Ziro

When the market for a dedicated portable doesn't die out as you said it would are you gonna own up to it, like all the people who said the PS3 and PSP would die? I'm so used to people and articles spreading FUD and DOOM that it's just amusing to me.

[silvacrest]

if worst comes to worst, sony can integrate android with the vita and then it will be like night and day in terms of money

[tiffac008]

Your living in the moment. This doom and gloom scenario ain't nothing new.

When the console market was in the up swing they said the PC gaming market will die. Nope it didn't, its stronger than ever before.

When the download service became popular they said that the physical media would die in a few years. Nope it didn't. Retail is still strong.

The sales will probably not be the same (only time will tell) but that doesn't mean the market will just die out because another market is currently in the up swing.

[killajd]

I for 1 love the idea of the new handheld and the specs match the price

[remanutd55]

cant wait !!!! you guys think there will be more apps besides the ones sony already announced ? anyways Uncharted Golden Abyss , Resistance Burning Skies , Gravity Rush , Little Deviants , ModNation Racers , Escape Plan are so bought !!!

[PSVita]

tons more this device is getting so much support more than any console i've seen in fact. Anyways if your looking for games remember all ps1 and psp games that are on the psn will be compatible so check those out as well as ps minis. I'm relly hoping that ps2 games are compatible too.

[tmanmushroom]

I'm excited for the Vita!

[THC CELL]

Sold my ipad for a vita as its 100% more likley to support better games than any other hand held. U wont see wipeout, killzone and maybe bf3 on ipad with the same support

[blackburn10]

Big surprise DarkCharizard and Ziro the harbringers of the doom of anything Sony saying negative things. You guys never disappoint. I am not sure exactly what is the obsession with the VITA 'beating' anything. The PSP didn't 'beat' the DS but sold 72 million units, more then most systems have. Also with the stupidity of comparing prices. Everyone keeps talking about economy and prices and expense when refering to the VITA but are the same people contemplating buying a $600.00 IPAD that will need to be replaced in about 2 years tops.

You don't understand at all. No true gamer buys a phone or tablet just to play games. Its not the same thing. As for the VITA being a car wreck, people said the PS1 and PSP would fail in the face of Nintendo and Sega. And we all know how that turned out.

[TBM]

thank you someone who sees the stupidity of those who keep buying the upgraded versions of apple products not caring about the price, but all of a sudden $250 is expensive?

DC and ziro are the biggest fanboy knuckleheads ive seen on this site. one stays attached to nintendos leg like a little dog, the other stays attached to microsoft like an addict to a dealer.

my phone is not for gaming its for texting, making calls, and browsing web at work when im bored. it can never do true gaming of substance.

[Drekken]

They are just second rate trolls in a stupid "console war" that should have died already. Under the circumstances, I think all of us "gamers" should have a united opinion of the industry. Its obvious some of the companies aren't catering to us anymore while others spend all their time trying to please us...

Anyone who is against a handheld like Vita is against the progression of gaming. I am not a big handheld gamer, but even I see the value in Vita. These guys have one agenda... and its the same agenda as they have had since the beginning. Infiltrate gaming forums and sway the masses towards MS and away from Sony. The only reason I can see someone wanting to do that is a paycheck.

[killajd]

I truly hope Vita truly shines! I want to see this handheld do great things!!!

[Nick212004]

I know I will be picking up a Vita DAY ONE!

[DrFUD]

All Vita needed was rumble and I would have given up console gaming forever.

[pinkyxyz]

anyone who counts a tablet or phone as a portable should be forever banned from gaming websites IMO

[Ingram]

should be banned from GAMING altogether

[banner]

Their will be no cross game chat on the ps3. How many more times does it have to be said? I'm sure the ps4 will have it.

[Ju]

I still think it is an excuse. Even though the argumentation that the Vita has twice the system ram and thus can handle background tasks better is sure valid. I mean some sort of VoIP stack is running for MP online chat already on the PS3. Integrate that into the OS with an open (cross game) interconnect/party system and done. Cannot cost that much more memory.

If anything, I think what that is, is that Sony could implement it from the ground up into the Vita while for legacy reasons that is just tough to integrate into the current PS3 OS without sacrificing backwards compatibility to old(er) games.

[banner]

Has Sony ever given the reason as to why??

[f789790]

Have you seen the XMB load on older games? It takes forever and lags all over the place. They can't add cross game chat!

[Ju]

How is XMB loading related to cross game chat? XMB overlay is related to open gl and how it swaps buffers and how that is tied into the game/SDK. Totally unrelated to cross games chat (or VoIP).

[newn4gguy]

The press AND the general public responded incredibly well to the Vita's reveal. I don't know what they're talking about.

[gamingisnotacrime]

i want a vita, in a bundle down the road

[BeOneWithTheGun]

Can you imagine an Uncharted 3/PS3 Slim/VITA bundle for $399.00? I'd be all over that.

[f789790]

They would never bundle 2 consoles together.

[THILLREBORN]

The trash talking dev is just trying to make a name for themselves since their games aren't doing it. Lol, epic fail on their part.

[earbus]

Handheld is more of a childs market though and if they cant ring or text on vita the kids wont play.

[AndrewE]

cool show as always

[faysal]

car wreck? yes it is cz vita is sooooooo awesome that even when you're driving you wont be able to get your eyes off the vita and end up in a car wreck..... ( just a joke btw)

[tiphanycufflink]

For the love of god, when you idiots put tags on articles, make sure they're the right ones.

[Hozi89]

This will be the first handheld in history to feature 2 analog sticks and what kind of games to most gamers like? FPS games like COD, Killzone, Battlefield, Resistance, etc...and we get Uncharted too!

PSV will dominate. Mark my words.

[zero_cool]

To all the biased individuals criticism towards psv from around the net....

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[leemo19]

Vita will for sure sells a lot out of the gate, it probably wont sell as much as ipad 1 and 2 or the iphone did, but it sure to sell somewhere in millions. Vita probably will bring back that handheld market that seems to be dying off due to the ipad, smartphones, iphones etc. Vita has one of the biggest key factors that those tablets and smartphones don't have when gaming two analog sticks. Having two analog sticks alone will sells some of the vita hardware. Think of this with cod coming to vita if it were to have success as it does on consoles and actually work well on vita, that alone will push vita sells for sure. My friend is hardcore apple fan everything apple and even he is going to get vita why cause it has 2 sticks. The Vita is going to be a beast for handheld gaming and probably show 3ds why it will sell more and that is called games after games after games.
Vita isn't a car wreck, it's big ass locomotive waiting at the station getting ready to run over anything on the track.

[extermin8or]

lol at iron studios as he said all their hames are shit... I mean spongebob wtf? They should piss off back to trying to develop something new :p

[matey]

Vita is a car wreck Sony done the famous wait and see then add more power guess what the graphics on the actual games is what matters KH Dream Drop Distance/RE Revelations/Nano Assault/MarioKart7/Tekken Prime/ect will be some of the best looking games out there on any portable with Revelationd setting the standard in portable GRAPHICS even on Vita because that game looks to have higher polygon counts on characters and backdrops than 85% of ps3 games of the same nature ie horror games not war games i just think £115 to play the 3DS games in development is more enticing than any system before it or after it in terms of the cost to play that quality is a give away Vita has 2 anologues 3DS has a more precise circle pad and a touch screen away from main screen 4 a smooth stylus controls 4 gun movements ect.

[MasterCornholio]

ROFL out of the 3 stooges (Darkcharizard, Ziro and Matey) you have to be the one with the most limited level of intellect. Seriously how dare you claim that the 3DS can produce better visuals than the Vita. You hardcore fanboys are just 2 funny. Look i know Nintendo will sell a ton of 3DSs and will produce great games on it. But no matter how much you wish it the 3DS will never beat the Vita in terms of social features, graphical power and online.

The only reason why you attack the Vita so much is because you have doubts in the 3DS. Because a true gamer would be happy with his system and leave the others alone instead of bashing them like crazy.

[zero_cool]

Like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Ingram]

You're what's wrong with this world.

[kingslayer1000]

vita is far from a car wreck

[1PC2PS33360]

what I don't get is why are people always aligning themselves with one camp or another.....for instance

"I am a console gamer pc games suck"

"I am a pc gamer all console games suck"

"I like apple, everything else sucks"

"nintendo is better than sony"

ect...ect...ect...

I like having every new toy and device that intrests me,
I have iphone, ds, psp, wii, 360, ps3, ps2, gamecube and a badass gaming pc!

ohh.. and a mid-spec laptop for fun too.....all that crap cost maybe, maybe $4000 tops over the course of a few years...THATS NOTHING, people spend that on some lame vacation that is over in 1 week....and then you got pictures to look at.

[badkolo]

I fully agree that times have changed and since vita is not a phone it might have trouble in this new market place that has unfolded with pads and phones with faster chips and androids and ios marketplace have eaten a chunk out of who buys what. BUT, as times change the need for what a phone is has changed as well, I use skype on my phone as much as phonecalls and i can see the day come where all i would need is skype, VITA has skype and that and give many of its targeted audience the phone feature many cliam the vita lacks.

[joeorc]

this exact point was posted already

"Handheld is more of a childs market though and if they cant ring or text on vita the kids wont play."

an with as you already stated can do that already with SINCE.

Vita...will have...SKYPE!!

an since their is a 3G ver. that will be in all likely subsidised..the Price point for it to be is even cheaper than the Iphone was, so it's release price on AT&T would be really cheap with a 2 year contract an data plan,Yea i know contracts suck, but that never stopped people before to pay for it when it comes to devices like the Iphone an Ipad an Tablets or android devices.

other's may say that the Vita is not an Ipad or an Ipod, an their point is?

android devices are not Ipods or Ipads also, but they are doing well in the market just the same.

the 2 analog sticks are a big advantage for market viability for FPS on the go, if there is people that still think there is not that big of a market, the sales of FPS software i think shows the interest in it.

you sell a million copy's of any software in a short amount of time you are doing something right, that is for sure.

[Goodfella78]

This is gonna kick some serious arse,nuff said,.,.,.

[JayWood2010]

People are really missing the point. Phones are not portable gaming consoles. They are phones with games added to it. Small games that are not that good for the most point. Have you ever heard bang for your buck? I would choose a 60 dollar game that gives me 13 hours of enjoyment instead of a 99 cent game that lasts 5 minutes.

Number two the 3DS comparison is aggravating as well. I know these two are competitors, but just because the 3DS is cheaper does not mean the PSV will fail. I own the 3DS btw so don't say I'm hating on it, but let's make a real comparison on them. When they were announcing the 3DS people were expecting it to be $200, instead we god it for $250 resulting in people being mad. When they were announcing the PSV, people expected it to be be $350 to $400, instead it was $250. These two sytems are very different. 3DS has 3D,Touchscreen,WiFi, AR, Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc. PSV has OLED touchscreen, Rear Touch support, AR, Wifi, 3G, Dual Analogs, PSN, remote access, Uncharted,Killzone, Resistance, Monster Hunters etc. They are both good consoles but for different reasons. 3DS having Mario will sale it like crazy at 170$. PSV with it's Dual Analogs that will bring in Call of Duty will also sale it pretty well. If you consider the PSP a fail then you are wrong. selling 68 million is not a fail, and the PSV with support should be able to do good too.

Three, the 3DS selling poorly was due to two things. One, it's price being much more expensive than the DS, when people really don't know the difference between the two unless you have actually seen it being played. The other being Nintendo hasn't released anything big other than Zelda OoT. As soon as Mario comes it will sale. The PSV with good games coming at launch plus it's worth 250$.

I know I'll be buying the PSV.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Microsoft's Operating systems have been known to be well ram hungry more so with Vista so you would have thought with the Xbox 360 using a Windows Kernel it may have needed a bit more ram than 512mb but instead Sony uses around 96mb of ram for its interface and Xbox uses around 32mb amazing...

So the PS3 cannot do 'everything' the lies the lies! And does even less with all the downgrades.

I wonder if the Vita will get downgraded along the line?

[Shojin1]

PSV should come out before Christmas. Carwreck LOL...

[StitchJones]

It's going to be doubtful it hits this holiday season. Sony is great at being late to the show and then wondering why their sales are low. The ongoing failure of the PSP should have sent Sony a message that they should have stopped working in the handheld market. The price is going to be an issue with this handheld. And what about games and development? Are we really going to get games that will be priced the same as console releases?? I'm sorry but I am just not going to pay 49-59$(US) for portable games. On top of the 250-300$ the unit will cost up front. After getting burned by the 3DS earlier this year, I am in major buyer beware mode.

[punisher99]

"PS3’s Capabilities Surpassed with PlayStation Vita"

So does that mean its gonna have more 1080P native games?

[Ingram]

Unless you're making a joke...Makes no sense given the native display resolution, alternatively, a 1080p display of that size it's too much of a pixel density for anyone.Human that is.lol

[Tzuno]

What the hell this article do in the Xbox 360 section anyway?

[DanSolo]

It looks like a really good piece of kit. But it would be nice to have a phone version.... I would be on it all the time!

[joeorc]

"It looks like a really good piece of kit. But it would be nice to have a phone version.... I would be on it all the time!"

HUH?

the unit will get skype, an if you buy the 3G ver, your skype will work on 3G an Wifi, there will be no reason to even need any more problem with that because,A) get a skype in number an B)there already is a flat fee of $3.00 a month for unlimited calling per month through skype,yes data cap from AT&T per month would be a problem, but that's no real dif. than having to be limited to the number of min's per month your already limited to unless you have no unlimited talk plan anyway.

with skype across wifi, your cost would only be skype mins, unless you buy an ulimited plan from skype, which is still very cheap.

$18.00 per 3 months of skype in "thus you have a phone number on skype, an $3.00 a month for unlimited talk to any skype or land line in the US. an Canada.

[allyc4t]

Did anyone actually watch the video? Or is everyone just going off of the sensationalist headline?