Why Battlefield Bad Company 2 Has Failed

For full disclosure, let me begin by stating that by some people's standards - I may be considered a Battlefield fan boy. My veteran status sits at 9 and I have lost many days of my life playing what I consider some of the best war games ever made. Just like a relationship in your "Real" life goes - a close relationship can bring plenty of happiness and love, but can also bring a lot of disappointment and make you just plain pissed off. For those of you who follow me and my videos, you are probably well aware that lately my relationship with Battlefield has been on the rocks.

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[hybridtheory12]

I dont think it failed that much, besides the DLC prices and content though, those fail

[deadreckoning666]

It hasn't failed. Its still the best war game I've ever played. But it still has its flaws....particularly the players who play it like its Modern Warfare 2 or don't know how to work as a team.

A tutorial from DICE would have helped alot. Also, they could have added some sway to the sniping to separate the skilled players from the noobs. Any idiot can just pick up a sniper and get a mass amount of kills.

Also, if there are TEN snipers on one team...then why the fuck don't I see TEN mortar strikes going off at the same time!!!??

@Hellsvacancy- The VIP code worked perfect for me. I actually waited a few days to activate it once I heard about the problems. Maybe u shuld have done the same :/

"the DLC prices and content though, those fail"

No, the prices are actually just right. The people who are dumb enough to eliminate the fun of getting unlockables by purchasing all the unlocks without EARNING them, deserve to pay ridiculous prices. Getting new guns is part of the fun of ranking up...however if ur so worried about KDR(not fun) then you deserve to shell out massive amounts of cash.

@Grewulf- YUP, thats what I'm gunna start doing. I swear, I've seen people who are just clueless as to whats going on in Rush. A taNk blows everything up and no does ANYTHING(no rockets, no mines, no nothing)

[HammockGames]

Because it didn't outsell MW2? Who cares - that doesn't make it less of a game.

I can't speak to the DLC - I rarely buy DLC unless it's on sale or something like that.

The graphics, gameplay, and destructibility were excellent, IMHO. Personally, I enjoyed it more than MW2.

I'll admit that I was frustrated at launch (I had the VIP code problems, actually). But that was more minor annoyance than actual detraction from the gameplay. Overall, I thought BC2 was great.

Looking forward to Battlefield 3 now.

[pustulio]

It's actually a pretty awesome game but to be honest im sick of the same things on the same maps that's why i stopped playing it.

Another reason is the VIP stuff is retarded why not put the SPECTACT camos and guns in VIP? Aside from that theres no DLC at all.

And the "Shortcut kits" are so stupid now i see some guys level 2 with an M16 and all the things i worked for and they did nothing but ask mommy for some points and then bum they got everything.

Now we just have to wait and see how Vietnam turns out.

[kancerkid]

An expansion is coming out that everyone seems to forget. Love this game. Forget MW2

[Greywulf]

A lot less n00bs.. It took me a while to warm up to bad company(skipping the first one) But BC2 is pretty damn good.

You can't really run & gun in this game, or run & pilot helicopters. I don't quite see the MW2 n00blets in it, as much as anyone describes. But that could just be the modes Im playing? I play point control or whatever variant that is... and rush? I think n00bs stick to Team death match.

I enjoy it thoroughly..
even for a multiplat

;)

[Dee_91]

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[jjohan35]

Playing the game on hard/hardcore essentially turns it into MW2: no tagging, no coordination with your teammates for teamwork, getting killed in two bullets, etc.

The game itself on regular mode is great, both in conquest and rush. However the DLC content has been very disappointing, both the free VIP stuff and the paid content. The constant recycling of old maps into different game modes really shortened the lifespan of the game, plus the fact that everything is unlocked before reaching level 30 (less than 48 hours of online play) didn't help either.

[n4gno]

exactly johan, the guy is seeing "noob" everywhere, but it' s probably a noob if he don't see your point (deathmach in normal mode is less noob than anything else by the way)

rush would be better with a real X2 points victory, without, it's call of campers fest, making easy kills and points without playing the game and strategy.

[tokugawa]

what does that have to do with anything??

lol, imo both bc and bc2 stomp every console exclusive shooter so far released this gen! i dont get it anymore. there seems to be a hardcore fanboy contingent on here that refuses to accept anything unless its exclusive to their console.. sad

i'm sorry, but there are plenty of studios out there that are not first party, but absolutely piss all over any of the platform holders own studios!!!

and again i have to disagree, people that are not very good tend to play hardcore because getting kills are easier.

[Persistantthug]

But I can tell you that DICE/EA didn't live up to the trash they were talking.

Forget the multiplayer map issues and the lag and problems at launch for a minute....

The single player alone is enough to cause a justifiable call of "fail". Way to short and way too cliche.

The single player should have been better than it was. It didn't suck, but it left alot to be desired, especially with the potential of the game, engine and characters.

They talked the talk, but didn't quite complete the walk here.

In general, the article is correct.

*back to BATTLEFIELD BAD COMPANY 2 now*

[BattleAxe]

I agree with the article 100%. I also feel the same way about the first Bad Company, but the only 2 things I think made the first one better were the larger maps and a bigger single player campaign. 1943 was a let down also with no extra support after it was released and with a a chat system that doesn't work on the PS3 version. I also traded in BC1 and BC2, but I still have CoD4, CoD:WaW and MW2.

[fossilfern]

wtf how did this game fail? i have it on PC and its great the MP is fast and over the top its a real solid game

[dillydadally]

This article misses the number one reason this game failed - it's not accessible. The first time you log into CoD, you know exactly what to do. You may get owned, but you know - point gun, shoot. In BFBC2, you don't know what your objectives are, can't figure out how to pilot the vehicles or blow up ones, get killed quickly, and the gun bounces all over the place with recoil (which I actually prefer - CoD's way too noob friendly). Now while some of these are actually symptoms of great features, DICE didn't do a good job of getting players into the game to understand their role and teach them how to play. I felt pretty lost for a while and friends I tried to get to play just couldn't get into it.

It also seemed like all you were doing was blowing up vehicle and vehicle and they kept spawning. That's just not fun.

[badz149]

but the short single player really pissed me off! I'm not much of the MP type but I enjoyed the 1st BC SP so much and obtained all the SP trophies for the game. normal and hard difficulty are not linked in the 1st but I enjoy it so much both times and why the hell do they think making the sequel a shorter game is beyond me! so much for the "not short SP" promise there huh?

[mcstorm]

This Game was no fail it just dose not have the name MW2 had but I think next time round it will sell more than 6 milion.

I think this game was far better than MW2 in every way and I still play BC2 Halo3/ODST online for my shooters and never been bored of playing them where I see the online play for MW2 poor and no where near as fun as BC2.

I know they had problems with the online at the beginning but I just played through the main game until it was fully up and running and better late then never.

[Hellsvacancy]

Yes, it failed (me anyway)

Bought it day-1, entered the VIP code it said "successful" but then EVERY time i played it online "please enter your VIP code" SCREWED ME

As for actually playin it, well, i had 2 invent a system so i could play a full game, id hav 2 create a squad, start a game, wait till i get get kicked out (connection error) and then join again, i couldnt play online on my own, itll just kick me out 15 mins in2 it

After i got the Platinum trophy i sold it (£7)

[maniacmayhem]

This game was fun up until everyone kept being the sniper class.

[Dee_91]

sneaking up killing snipers

[crematory]

guess what this the main thing made me trade it in

[Persistantthug]

Yes, there can be more recons than there should be, but now they more reward players for actually doing the objectives.

That's the part that drove me crazy....that they were rewarding people for being pussy recons more than they were rewarding the soldiers who were defending and/or arming the objective crates.

Recons tend to get the less points now.

[AstroZombie1]

Just because it isn't on the list does NOT mean it has failed the BF series is its own game it does not have to be popular to be successful, like it for what it is not for what it isn't.

[UnRated]

I don't see how it has failed. There was no way it was going to sell more than Modern Warfare 2. I think Bad Company 2 is a better multi-player game but it is also harder to get into it.

[DA_SHREDDER]

It failed when it comes to being a good shooter. Sure the vehicular combat and destruction are second to none, but when it comes to aiming down those sights I just wanna hurl. I still dont know why some of those guns have the most generic looking iron sights either? Here's hoping that one day Dice decides they can stop working on their tech (cause its perfect the way it is) and start concentrating on more important aspects. Till then its MAG all day.

[ElDorado]

seem to forget. After Killzone, battlefield crushes any shooter out there except maybe MAG. Bad Company 2 is it for me. Modern Warfare 2 is the definition of garbage and it's for kids. Bad Company 2 is real warfare a real battlefield with destructable environments. FUCK COD AND FUCK WHO WROTE THIS BULLSHIT. PERIOD

[Dee_91]

:)

[ElDorado]

CoD fanboy. Grow up. Get over it, Modern Warfare 2 is outdated

[Dee_91]

your opinion suck
deal with it

[ElDorado]

it would have Disagrees > Agrees like you have, but no. Poor child.
Battlefield one of the greatest online fps. KILLZON3D 2011 FEBRUARY IN CASE YOUR MW2 BRAIN DIDN'T KNOW

[XactGamer]

OMG dumbest fanboy fight of the year

[crzyjackbauer]

MAG your kidding me right?

[xg-ei8ht]

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Oh dear. Was interested, just looks the same as MW2, could have been a map pack.

Nobody would have even known.

[Motion]

Wow. I skipped out on MW2, but this...This looks awful. Almost like MW meets Duke Nukem. All it was missing was cheesy one-liners when people die.

[stuntman_mike]

wow that looks so basic, they really pranged the cookie cutter with that game.

[Hazmat13]

its fun but im shocked that camping is still goin on, also on PS3 i have teabagging i thought we as gamers are done with that. also i found that shotguns have long range without a slug. also the DLC White Pass all of the building are destructable so not fun when people have RPG's 40mm's amd air support.

[ranmafandude]

fuck whoever wrote this article crying like a little baby lol.

[shikwan]

Why do u play games? To have FUN.

BC is kool...but it's not as FUN as MW2 (on a given day when you don't run into campers, modders, glitchers, cheaters, boosters, racists, homophobs, shrieking 8 yr old kids and other scum bags that seem to reside on this game).

: D

[PotatoClock]

Its too bad then that you ALWAYS run into "campers, modders, glitchers, cheaters, boosters, racists, homophobs, shrieking 8 yr old kids and other scum bags that seem to reside on MW2"

MW2 = Idiot Magnet

[shikwan]

EXACTLY...which is why I cleary don't understand the disagrees...oh yea! This is N4G!

[XactGamer]

How has BFBC2 failed?

[Razumaru]

BF:BC2 is the best online multiplayer game I have ever played. COD:MW2 was fun, and a lot better than COD 4. But as far as atmosphere and involvement goes BF:BC2 wins hands down. Nothing beats blowing an apache out of the sky with a well guided rocket, or planting C4 around a building, setting the MCOM station, waiting for the opposition to disarm it, then blowing them sky high taking the building with them :D

[gcolley]

bc1 had a better air ground balance.

[xc7x]

it hasn't failed but those are good points unfortunately :-( it lacks maps for sure and it seemed to have the bad mp launch. i'd like to add that the cost for the extra stuff is a bit high priced too. still i really like the game despite all that said but can't disagree with what is said though.

[ZILLA]

when no one cared about CoD anymore,now that there game is broken and filled with noobs and casuals they would attack the GREATEST FPS ever made...BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD COMPANY 2

[VictoriousOne]

I honestly mean it when I say that Bad Company is seriously the greatest First-Person Shooters of this generation, imo of course.

[shovelbum]

Not a fail but they lost me due to the same maps over and over. Same maps with different modes isn't really helping me out much when I'm still looking at the same scenery. Love the MP but simply got tired of the maps.

[ATi_Elite]

I didn't read the article.

The PC version was excellent. had a minor issue with ATi 4800 cards but it got patched.

It took me about oh 15 minutes to figure everything out if not shorter.

if everybody is a sniper I just run around with my knife collecting dog tags.

BFBC2 is the best online game I've played because of the destructibility. Blow up a building with 5 enemies trapped in it and you will jump for joy.

Yes I even got tired of the maps but who wouldn't after playing it for like 8 plus hours a day for 2 months straight.

[DarkSpawnClone]

WTF BFBC2 is better then any cod game to date imo ...yeah there's a LOT of sniper but that doesn't take away the game too much its not like Every one on the team is a sniper i like to have sniping wars with the other team some times tho but mostly i like to get in there with a attacker and kill!!! until i cant kill no more and when i run out of ammo i got a ammo pack :P ..i really love this game shit load times better then cod

EDIT: can't wait for Vietnam explanation/map pack :) looks bad ass!!

[Trunkz]

There's actually servers on the PC where they can actually limit how many snipers there are allowed per team (I've seen it set to 3) and if you pick sniper, it will kill you after 3-5 seconds of spawning in.

[xxxAnubisxxx]

Great writeup. CoD has its place and BC has its place... but DICE and EA talked a BIG game before releasing BC2 and haven't delivered.

100% agree.

[SpaceFox]

BC2 is failing right now, and that's because of the lack of support/DLC.

I have over 200 hours in BC2, rank 42, and I love the game. But, I'm starting to get just plain tired and frustrated playing the same maps over and over. I know all of these maps like the back of my hand, and so does everyone else.

That's the problem, we need something new, we need the excitement of exploration and discovery. BC2 hasn't gotten any new maps ever, and it's been 5 months since release. DICE has even said, there aren't any new maps planned right now other than Vietnam.

Sure, Vietnam is coming, but it's a long time away. It comes out in Winter, and if DICE wants people to stay interested they need to release some new maps already. Plus, it's a different time period so we won't get to use the weapons and vehicles we love in new locations.

Not to mention the lag and horrible hit detection, I can't tell you how annoying it is to shoot an enemy point blank with a shotgun, see it was a direct hit and yet not get even a hit marker. Then you get killed and see he still had 100% health.

[gcolley]

still prefer number 1 both mp and sp

[sonicriderZG8]

Five bucks says the words "Modern Warfare 2" are somewhere in this article.

[ATi_Elite]

DICE put out BFBC2 and it was better than MW2. It made a huge amount of money and gave them experience on the Frostbite 2 engine.

Sure after playing the game 24/7 like it was our job, I'm sure we are all tired of the maps.

Screw them new maps, I rather DICE work on Battlefield 3.

There are plenty of other games to play and as for me I still haven't touched the single player campaign yet. LOL

Hopefully DICE is done rick rolling around on that Medal Of Honor crap so they can concentrate on Battlefield 3.

[tigertron]

I enjoy playing BFBC2 online, its a refreshing alternative to the likes of COD. My only gripe with the mp is the amount of snipers, but thats not the fault of the developers.

[makingdamage]

To me it failed because it was too much like every other shooter out there. I always liked battlefield because of the variation you get when you can fight on foot or in different vehicles but in battlefield bad company 2 DICE made the impact on the game of the vehicles near non existing. The maps were made for only fighting by foot and the vehicles were therefore redundant thus giving the game less variation and more boring in my opinion.

DICE should have focused on what they´re good at: a variation rich fps. Instead they took the MW route to increase the popularity of the game.

[omi25p]

im sorry but to much like anyother shooter? what shooter has destructable enviroments, huge scale maps decent vehicles customizable weapons ect sure cod has customizable weapons but none of rest. Also fighting on foot and in vehicles how else do you fight in a first person shooter? You have helicopters tanks boats cars quads uavs you can go on foot, long range, close range, mid range, all distances HOW ELSE DO YOU FIGHT IN A FPS?

my only complaint about battlefield bad company 2 is the fact it has the WORST dlc i have ever seen, just putting maps on for a different gamemode.

[Tzuno]

Why you talk shit and on purpose want to give this game a bad image? Answer: because you are a biased-bitch.

[DoucheVader]

Call of Duty series is tried and getting old. You have people out there that play MW2 just to play it and its like no other game exist.

That guy is a MORON. If that is you, you are a MORON. If you haven't given BFBC2 a good honest try you are a MORON.

You can't expect all the same pitiful camping tactics to work in BFBC2.

I feel the same way about MAG. If people gave it more of a chance and didn't expect it to be "Quake with a military theme" then I think you would have more people playing a wider variety of games.

BFBC2 online nearly outdoes everything MW2 does -- period. MW2 is pretty and quick, but it should be, half the code and effects are pre-baked. The CPU isn't getting used as much as it does in BFBC2.

On top of that MW2 throws you on P2P servers! Which SUCK BALLS. They are crap.

[EliteAssassin81]

well, I hate to break it to you but not everyone has the same opinion as you. Just because people don't like the same thing as you that makes them morons? Battlefield was fun for a while, but there isn't enough maps to keep me wanting to play it. The servers for modern warfare may not be the greatest, but battlefields is far from perfect. There was at least a month to where it was unplayabe to me from all the lag. People camp just as much on battlefield as any other game, so that argument is useless.

[oghost85]

except you can break buildings and it was very limited on its own gimmick! oh and it was fugly Let's be honest..

[metsgaming]

I like BBC2 alot better than any Cod game. I will never buy a Cod game ever again. I returned mw and mw2 before i had a week with them, they were horrible.