Why is Sony working on Cloud when it should fix PSN first? Underground Hype 15

AnalogHype.com writes:

This week it's all about the games when the cast sits down to record UndergroundHype 15. We have a shorter show for you this week, just over an hour long, but it's still one of the greatest pieces of entertainment that you'll ever come across. Having said that, Adrian, Michael, Quentyn, and our special guest Spencer from TheBitBag joins the craziness this week as we talk about a few very interesting things in the gaming world.

* OnLive and PS Cloud: Chances of Survival.
* Morally/Politically Correct? Rape Simulation Discussion
* Game Impressions: The Wheelman, Godfather 2, and The Dishwasher
* Codename Fail Whale: AKA XMB/PSN Update 2.70
* Plus a ton more.

[Zeus Lee]

Quit whining,PSN is absolutely perfect for a free service.

[Awookie]

Also i bet these are completely different departments of their company. Jesus who would want to listen to these unknowns talk about nothing, we only have the name of their project nothing else.

[Ghoul]

agree to both.

Im more then sure that the Department working on PSN is a closed sector only working on and maintaining the psn, and Cloud a new Project gets a dedicated team of software engeneers and developers. Sure its an assumption but thats how its done 99% of the time on huge companys.

[phosphor112]

2 out of the 4 topics mentioned b*tches about Sony in some way. Way to complain about an update that gives you stuff. Hell, I don't see anyone pointing fingers at MS for releasing an update last week that gave nothing new. Not even improved NXE load times. It's probably 1 of their many attempts to kill E74.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

PSN is not "absolutely perfect", at least literally not. But which company doesn't work on future products just because one or two features of the current product is still being developed.

[NegativeCreepWA]

People like you need to quit saying its perfect, when its not. And its never going to change if people don't give their opinions about it. Every survey I take for Sony I tell them what I would like added or fixed on PSN.

Just because your happy with the way PSN is doesn't mean the rest of us are. So why don't you quit your whining and let the people that are trying to make PSN better for all of us say what they have to say.

I for one am getting tired of Sony relying to much on text chat. I would be a PC gamer if I wanted type while playing games.

[gaffyh]

“When you see a good move, look for a better one”
(Emanuel Lasker)

[callahan09]

I agree. PSN is not broken, it just doesn't have one single silly feature that everybody says it should have. It'd be awesome if it gets it. But its absence has not hindered my ability to enjoy playing the PS3.

[XGRaViSmOrSX]

so wait because they copyrighted that name all the sudden they are in full blown development of this "console"

please. its called saving your ass from having to buy said name later on down the line if in fact it does actually even come out.

[Dragun619]

Dude, iono about you but PSN is great, I mean come on its free what more can you ask.

Heck their even spending their own time trying improve it as you know when you compare PSN from 2006 to PSN now like Wow, Major Differences such as Video Store, In Game XMB, In Game Music player, In game Screenshots, More redesign and organized PSN Store, Trophies system, PSN gamercard, Home, And of course, the recently released Text Chat.
I'm sure we can all expect much more improvement and features for PSN in the coming years such as In game Private Chat and hopefully a PS2 emulator for PS3 like how PSP was able to emulate PS1.

Also how do we know that Sony is even working on PS Cloud?
And that maybe they merely just licensed the name just in case if Cloud gaming and Onlive does take off and Become successful. Cuz you know it would be alot more smarter to wait than spend money on something that might fail.

[heroicjanitor]

Does it not work? Don't you mean "make better"?

[Pika-pie]

PSN works fine.. We get constant updates and new stuff all the time.

Just because they are investing in the future doesnt mean that they have forgotten about now. Both are important.

It will no doubt be a diffent team working on cloud.

[INehalemEXI]

/sigh

[Megaton]

What's to fix? I have friends that I can communicate with, games that I can play online without lag for free, and I download from the PSN store at an average speed of 1mb/sec (wirelessly). So... what needs fixing again?

[RememberThe357]

When did we find out what Cloud actually was?

[rockleex]

Cloud-type stuff for YEARS now. Ever since the development of the PS2!

He just didn't have the necessary technology back then. But now that everything's falling into place, Sony can try to pick up what Ken left behind for Cloud.

[jadenkorri]

how underground hype 15, a view from a 15 years olds opinion of a company working on future products...products apparently just come out one day, some guy makes it in about 15 mins and puts it out... im sure MS has a team working on the next 360, why we don't bash MS, just like sony and nintendo are making their next console...but wait its sony bashing time, every day here at N4G...a 15 year olds pod cast is news here at N4G.com...

[Eddie20101]

It's the flame bait podcast, they always make up something to rag on Sony about.

They don't even Know what cloud is, just that it's registered trademark by Sony, plus Sony is a big company made up of many divisions that work on many things at the same time.

They are working on PSN, hence the 2.70 firmware, there are many reasons why a certain feature may not be available that have nothing to do with programming it and making it available, such as patent's and being cocc blocked by the people or company that own them. Microsoft owns many patent's that involve how Xbox live works and the features it offers, and I'm sure that they have made it very difficult for Sony to offer certain features they have a patent for.

With the exception of a couple of global features that Xbox live has, PSN is a very good match to what Xbox live offers and has some features that live does not offer, and the global features that Microsoft make mandatory to every game, weather it is appropriate to the game or not (being able to play your own music in game) Sony allows the game developer the ability to include them at there own option. The games that need voice chat all have it on PS3, the games that make sense to allow people to play there own music in game usually have that feature on PS3.

PS3 and PSN is not a failure like these articles and podcast make them out to be, just because PSN and Xbox Live don't match each other feature for feature. There both pretty darn good for what they offer.

[badz149]

what the hell are u talking about? who's making the PSN better? analoghype.com?? how? by whining and bashing PSN non-stop? why don't you, stop whining about people being OK the PSN is the way it is! I can bet that most people in here bashing the PSN for not having cross game chat or invite or what-so-ever are those 360 owners trying to justify their $50 fee for XBL! gaming were great even without those features and now somebody somewhere who paid $50 for that service (although they know they pay to play online!) are lurking everywhere on the net yelling like those are the most crucial things! for me, when I bought a game, I will play online if I want to without the need to worry about paying extra and even if I don't want to, I don't feel like being ripped-off because I pay nothing for the like of anything online related!

remember the time before FW2.40 for the PS3? 360 owners were saying XBL is better for having achievements! and then BAMM!! FW2.40 and PS3 gamers got trophies and what now?? the cross game invite and chat are their last resort! sooner or later, they will start to feel uneasy, sitting and using the service they paid for while gamers on the other consoles are enjoying the similar service for FREE!! or...maybe it has already begun!

[SL1M DADDY]

For the same reason Microsoft is worjking on the next Xbox when they should be fixing the current Xbox instead. R&D bizniches.

[Tito Jackson]

all fluffy and pillowy.
they float in the heavens above as jesus's marshmallows.

[byeGollum]

but it will, thats the prob *sigh*

[Nelson M]

Another Bot P*ssed off that He's Got a Laggy Dashboard on his 360 as well as Laggy online which he pays $50 for

[talltony]

and working on a few psn features. WHy do people think it cant be done at the same time.?

[Miraak82]

humm sony has so many divisions they prolly working on 50 different things right now if not more . wah wah wah unlike another company for whom I speak not its name

[SoapShoes]

Oh it's this article...

[The Lazy One]

it's a podcast...

[ExPresident]

blah blah blah.

Why do people assume that any company doesn't have the resources to work on new projects while developing others? Its called research and development.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

PS3 but can be a PC service or a Bravia Service?

[Blaine]

Like Cloud-ready Bravia TVs? I like the way you think! PC gaming, on your TV, right out of the box (+kb & mouse, of course, and inevitable activation and monthly fee, but you get my point!).

[chasegamez2]

all the sony hate can go suck something

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Who is going to want to listen to these baboons? It's like listening to a bunch of retards.

[CptBach]

im not even gonna read the article but to answer the title...

they have different teams working on each?

[-EvoAnubis-]

Yeah. It's not as if they don't have the teams to spare; they have more than double the amount of dev teams of both of their competitors combined.

[lloyd_wonder]

Yeah. wtf

[Makidian]

lol Nelson that may br so, but I think the more appropriate response would be why is AH pretending that they know about something they don't. A trademark filing doesn't say they are or are not working on a Cloud PS. And excuse me if I am wrong but what the hell is wrong with the PSN? I don't have any problems with it, except intermittent times with lacking content. This sh1t is getting old

[Bladestar]

Sony never intended for PSN to survive beyond the PS3. Just like they didn't intend the PS2 online service.. wherever it was called to evolve and be use with the PS3.

PSN as you know it will probably be abandon with the PS4 comes out... just like Sony does with everything else. Emotion chip and other things.

PS4 will probably be cloud computer and PSN and everything in it will die.

This is very different from xbox live and microsoft strategy... where xbox live will continue to mature and grow and all existing features will be use and supported by the next xbox.

Both companies follow the same pattern. Sony always abandon technologies and features.. each platform starts from scratch forcing developers to start from square one... and all support like the PS2 online service to eventually die and be unsupported.

Yeah.. bla bla... lots of sony leg humpers say how Microsoft abandon the original xbox... and yet people can original xbox games online. unlike the PS2.. that even if Sony is still making money selling it.. it has 0 support for the online service.

[cliffbo]

what the fuq are you waffling on about? how can you be so completely wrong?

i hope the warranty on your brain hasn't run out.

[OmarJA]

Funny that Sony didn't abandoned the PS2 & it's not their fault that the 360 is using last gen tech & features & i find it even funnier that your speaking out of your ass about what Sony will do next...

You M$ coock suckers cracks me up, you should be worried that if M$ will support the 360 this year with a decent looking exclusives after the flops you had.

[anti-gamer]

"PSN as you know it will probably be abandon with the PS4 comes out... just like Sony does with everything else. Emotion chip and other things."

Like MicroSoft abandon XBOX owner after Xbox360 come out

did sony abandon DVD whin ther is Blu-Ray

[dazzalfc]

Thanks for cheering me up, needed a good laugh, and your absurd post gave me it. I feel rather ashamed just visiting the same website as yourself.

Maybe you need to go back and check the history of the oh so wonderful Microsoft, then maybe you'll see what kind of company they are.

I also ask you to educate yourself on the difference between Sonys last online offering and the PSN, and how Live for Microsoft is much more than just a gaming network, but a complete networking system for the company and its entire products, something that has been in development for years.

And another thing, as for Sony " always abandon technologies and features.. each platform starts from scratch forcing developers to start from square one", may i remind you that if it wasn't for Sony trying to push the envelope in terms of home console gaming, it wouldn't be half the industry it is today. Would love you to be the managing director of an electronics firm, you'd probably still be developing titles on cassette tapes

[Johnny Rotten]

oh really?

I give up...

[Dimitri]

PSN doesnt need fixing, it needs further improvement ;) which is in process.

[JD_Shadow]

I stopped reading after that.

[mastiffchild]

Really. Very silly and very pointless. Why wouldn't Sony look into this WHILE they add to the PSN? Both their competitors will be-unless they're daft-so not to would be foolish, no?

I guess if MS were doing this(publicly) they'd beat on Sony for not doing it. the industry moves very fast and Sony have teams for things like this, a team for PSN anda team for Home among a host of others. LIKE ANY OTHER BIG COMPANY WOULD!D'oh!

[brycespitler]

just no name site giving lame podcasts

move along ppl

[Rhezin]

his parents do not love him. They told him he was adopted.

[brycespitler]

hahahahahaaha!

im gonna steal his retarded lingo

bladestar is nothing but a microsoft "leg humper"

does he actually think this offends ppl? i personally laugh at how immature it sounds

[mac4u10]

The most boring podcast ever who approved this crap

[Gue1]

what it's PS cloud? I try to look for info but it seems nobody know what exactly is...

PS Clous is some kind of service like Onlive or something?

[likedamaster]

Two words. Clue Less.

[free3sixty]

PSN = BUG

Stop searching for excuses dumpas!es. I also have a PS3 but PSN compared to XBL is 3 years behind, thats just a fact.

SOny got so many GREAT news the whole last weeks and MS got NOTHING but STILL they sell 40k consoles more every week (= 160k every month) since the beginning of 2009. If Sony wont change anything MS will have sold 2 Million consoles more by the end of this year. And i dont even mention the cristmas time, where MS sold ALONE about 1 million units more than Sony.

I dont know why the PS3 is so lagging in sales. Ok they have now better sales in japan but in europe and especially the USA they STILL lag behing the 360.

All the exclusives, all the great games.. you can get a PS3 in the UK , Germany etc. for 299 euro but it doesnt moves any units for sony.

[brycespitler]

neck and neck...so calm down

we both know that the gap is so big because of the price

sony's ps3 could initiate orgasms everytime u beat a level on a game and ppl still wont flock to it unless the price is comparable to other systems

[cereal_killa]

There always has to be a fanboy Muppet who brings up Sales where it doesn't belong is that all you have these days?

PS3 has no games.....gone much better line the last 2 years in terms of quality... 360 wait till E3
PS3 multiplats are always superior on the 360.....Gone both system come out identical and play the same.
PS3 sales can't match 360 sales even though they had to have a price drop for that to happen.

You Muppet's live in the past like its 2007 and you believe everything you read on every blog website (even after proven false) that is just looking for hits.

If you're really a gamer like you think you are you wouldn't give a flying fvck about sales or anything else. you play a game not sales and no matter how long you continue to preform sex acts on Aaron Greenturd, Steve Balmer, and Cliffy B (if your under the age of 15 I kid) you not going to receive a dime from M$ or any other part of the M$.

No part of M$ or Sony that is perfect including Live, PSN and anything else you want to complain about hell even with Nintendo destroying the competition right now they have flaws in allot of things they do but there allot of thing all these company s are doing right and every company knows what there doing right and wrong and its only there company they need to worry about and believe me they don't care about you or your fanboy ways.

[brycespitler]

just a no name site with boring podcasts

move along ppl

[poindat]

What's wrong with the PSN? I've noticed nothing wrong with it. It's free, it does what it is supposed to do, and it works well. What more do you want, 11,000 features you may never use? Isn't that a reason why people bashed the PS3 in the first place, because of all its features?

[SprSynJn]

So why fix something that isn't 'broken' in the first place? I have been extremely pleased with the Playstation Network the entire year plus I have had my PS3. Maybe someday I will get myself a PSP and enjoy it on there too, for free.

[jay2]

Because it wont be out for a cuple of years, people bit**ing about PSN and compairing it to XBL should remember that XBL's had a 5 year head start.

[thereapersson]

Enjoying those hits to your website, eh?

[WaR_HaWk]

it was just a freakin patent nothing else.

[MaximusPrime]

its like saying why MS concentrating on xbox 360 when they should be fixing Vista or worse bringing out a new OS, Windows 7.

i do not see any problem with psn. Let Sony do what they want.

[Kushan]

Yes, Sony, how dare you have different departments within your company working on different projects! How dare you! You should be dedicating yourselves to JUST ONE industry and just one tiny part of that industry. You should be throwing all your eggs in one basket like every other international company out there!

[kickaski]

For once i agree %100 with Kushan's opinion :-)

[HDgamer]

How dare sony offer dedicated servers for it's first party games and not charge us anything.

[redsquad]

What? The author musn't be able to do two things at once, so applies the same logic to Sony.
Projects can actually OVERLAP, you silly buffoon!!!!!

[DMasta718]

To my understanding, they just patented something dealing with cloud. They never said they was working on it.

[Ps_alm3k]

They have a big team, and each group has one project...
think first.

[crazyclown]

stop crying (article writer)...they know more than you

PSN is fine. They are just making it better and better over time.

[ar]

Well, If you knew anything about software development you wouldn't make these stupid pod casts. It's not like some strategy games where you can just put more men in the construction of a building and it'll build faster. There is a limit to how many people you can put in a project and still having them to be effective. Also every developer can't do any kind of developing. There is a huge number of different areas, all requiring a certain expertise. Software development is an enormous field.
If you had ever been in a real software company you'd know that it's common to have a vast number of teams with their own projects going on.

[Jdoki]

"Why is Sony working on Cloud when it should fix PSN first"

I always find it funny when people say things like this. As if a company is a giant amorphous blob, and the employees can do 'everything'.

I swear some people think that running a company is like playing Final Fantasy Tactics... Just switch a couple of jobs round whenever the need arises!

Just drag a few employees who work on PS Cloud on to PSN, because surely they will have the skills to knock up cross-game voice chat in an afternoon. And while they are at it, just grab a couple of secretaries to patch Party play in to Killzone 2!!!

[-EvoAnubis-]

So very true.

[blackboyunltd]

why is everybody acting the AUTHOR when its not an ARTICLE, listen to the PODCAST then you can ATTACK

[xTruthx]

lol at title :P, PSN is ok. I mean its free right ? and it has the things we need :)

[rbrtchng]

Only an idiotic company like SONY would know to do two things at once.

Let's all learn from Microsoft: when working on extended warrantee, stop research to fix RROD. One at a time!

Or better yet, let's learn from Nintendo: when rich, go on vacation.

[ultimolu]

This blog is full of sh!t.

PSN has come a long way since 2006 and people still attack the service.

Is this a new trend to pick on Sony? I don't understand this.

[JD_Shadow]

Ulti, look at the site this is coming from, then tell me how you didn't expect that kind of "question". :P

[ironmonkey]

funny haters act like they make more money than these guys and know what to do so ok then go start your own business and do it then lol your wasting time crying about it go find sony's phone number and call them yourself and tell em thers no point to write it here this aint no therapy class yes your angry yes your depressed one solution to that son, get a job lol

[SnukaTheMan]

Well its par for course with the ps3 then.

[Andor_Trask]

I am a huge sony fan, since PSX first came out. I think the PSN is great, BUT...wtf...this long and still no fantastic catalog of classic PS1 titles?! this is blasphemous!!! they have a couple of great games on there like twisted metal 2 and Castlevania SOTN. Though there are WAAAAYY More!! It cant be that difficult can it? hell maybe they should even add trophies to old titles like FF7, FF8, Chrono Cross, RE2, ETC. Tell you one thing that is for sure, I would Pay MONIES for that shizite.

[bob saget remix]

I hope they keep them coming. Seriously there a really funny joke.