Xbox's new policy — say goodbye to unofficial accessories from November thanks to error '0x82d60002'

Error 0x82d60002 informs players their devices will be blocked

[darthv72]

MS are expanding their 3rd party program. So these unlicensed devices can simply become licensed.

[Profchaos]

The Challenge would be legacy devices from manufacturers that are now defunct given how Xbox is a ecosystem and series is BC with x1 controllers it could mean a manufacturer that built something way back in 2013 and is no longer around would not get that licensing and the users who spent money would be locked out

In addition the process of licensing may be complex and not something a venue may be bothered with for devices pre 2 years old.

To sum it up everything out there without a Microsoft logo may cease to function and Microsoft has failed to provide any justification as to why this is needed

[GamerRN]

This is a good thing, it will eliminate people cheating with modded controllers, KBM add-ons that still give aim assist, etc etc etc

[Cacabunga]

This brand is a disgrace .. you cannot imagine a more anti consumer company.

[IRetrouk]

So why block anything then? Why not just start the program and implement it for anything coming to market in the future?
You or i or anyone could have controllers and headsets that won't ever work again on xbox because they want a licence fee, this includes people with disabilities etc that use certain 3rd party products to be able to game at all.....
I thought ms were consumer friendly?

[crazyCoconuts]

Thinking out loud here, but there might be a cheating element here as well. I think PS has been more restrictive with allowing third party non licensed controllers, and as a result I've seen hardware hacking solutions with more restrictions on their PS implementation vs. the Xbox implementation. Maybe this is to reign in on the cheating?

[IRetrouk]

Surely if they can detect a 3rd party peripheral being used they could hone it down further to show them the cheating devices and just ban them, no?, dont forget, headsets, fight sticks, steering wheels and disabled gamers will all be effected by this too.
It may be an element, but don't get it twisted, it's about control and making money from licences, as seen with their ssd implementation, same as sony and their controller licences, but they atleast let you use any ssd that matches the specs and almost any headset too.

[LonDonE]

agreed this is what needs to be done, if its being done for greed then MS are dropping the ball here, but if its to curb cheating which is a massive issue on consoles online play then i support it..
But maybe they could block it for online game play...

[S2Killinit]

Wow what a shady move. Fu€ked up.

What about people who bought these devices already?

[InUrFoxHole]

Good

[babadivad]

Cool. I want a wireless fight pad for SF6

[banger88]

Will this affect 3rd party remotes? Because I have one that I use every night with my console. I haven't updated my SX in a long time, maybe I'll leave it offline permanently.

[Profchaos]

A signs point to yes they will be impacted.

The only accessory I can see still working is third party battery packs.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

I use the Brook Wingman on the Series X so I can use a customised Dualsense (can't use the standard controller for either console) because my hands are missed up due to tenosynovitis. This announcement took a massive shit on my day.

I don't know what I'm going to do. It's definitely affected. https://twitter.com/brookga...

It seems like it might be okay for offline play though. https://twitter.com/brookga...

[Profchaos]

I love Brook accessories such a shame

[XiNatsuDragnel]

I wish for free online my friend.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Please post online and put pressure on Xbox to reverse this decision, guys.

[Abear21]

I’m old and remember loving games before the internet. I was so excited by the idea that the internet would allow consumers to take back power and organize online, becoming one voice; boycotting and pushing companies policies and bad decisions. Boy was I wrong.

[InUrFoxHole]

No. I support this decision

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

So you're happy that people with hand issues like me won't be able to use our specialized controllers (that make it possible for us to play games) on our Xbox's anymore? Why? You're not obliged to defend bad decisions just because you prefer one platform over another.

The Brook adaptors provide a great service.

[VariantAEC]

I kind of do too. MS has options for those with disabilities. I haven't gone for 3rd party controllers on PS since PS2 and for Xbox 360 and PC I never used 3rd party peripherals. I tended to avoid unlicensed products on Nintendo systems as well. I'm not seeing an issue with this. I suppose its nice that other manufacturers don't block 3rd party pad support... but why do you need it?

@LucasRuinedChildhood
What controller do you actually use for your tenosynovitis? I can't find anything about a good gamepad for people with "gamer's thumb." Despite how often I play and type and use my hands and have nearly lost them to injuries... this issue eludes me. I only have several cycts and legions growing throughout my body and brain with notable spinal deterioration probably from excessive ionizing radiation exposure [technically "self-inflicted," I can't talk about that much], a blast injury, a few electrical injuries, a short bout of malnutrition, and several head injuries in early life. No issues with tenosynovitis (and so far as my latest brain MRI shows, no cancer).

[InUrFoxHole]

@Lucas
Happy isn't the word I would use. But if I'm being 💯. If that means less people using a molded controller than buy the Xbox handicapable controller.

[monkey602]

This is disgraceful. MS need a kick in the ass

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Agreed. Putting aside how this negatively affects me, this is going to screw over the fighting game community and gamers with physical disabilities who use controllers more specific to their needs.

[Profchaos]

I've failed to find any justification for this from Microsoft we can only assume it's to prevent cheaters using kb/m adaptor accessories.

I don't see any other justification personally.

This is a huge problem as Xbox series is backward compatibility with Xbox one meaning devices from 2013 and on are impacted (possibly from long defunct manufacturers) if they do not have a Microsoft license tied to it's device id. This is not a small number.
So things like controllers, headsets and even game accessories (really think Activision remembered they made a guitar hero for x1 since it's shit down), steering wheels and media remotes.

This also violates consumer laws In my region so I'm not sure how they will actually pull it off.

[Einhander1972]

It's not about cheaters, it's about licensing fees.

[ModsDoBetter]

Seems like a move to combat Cronus and similar devices.

[Gamingsince1981]

It's a move to make more money on licences lmao

[CptDville]

I was thinking on that, but will it work? Cronus makes the console recognize other controllers as an official one, thereby such block shall render useless in this case. Isn’t it?

[ModsDoBetter]

Not necessarily given that games have already implemented their own detection systems. COD, for example, recognises when a Cronus device is being used and displays a warning.

[Hofstaderman]

My my. How consumer friendly....

[Einhander1972]

Hey, you know that device you've been using for years? Well it was made by a company not paying us licensing fees so you no longer get to use that device you paid for.

Talk about greedy, right?

[ocelot07]

As a rust player. This is great news gets rid of a lot of XIM users. But then still means playstation users can use them.

[Angyobangyo]

Nope, Xim players will still be a thing as long as an official Xbox controller is connected to the device. XIM products don't try to reverse or circumvent security protocols. The authentication controller you use is what the console is talking directly to.

[ocelot07]

That sucks.

[Petebloodyonion]

I can understand if the said device can create some unfair advantage (like a mouse that is detected as a controller) or could harm the system but if the move is just to prevent some less expensive option from existing then it's really shameful and serve as a warning that these companies are more concerned with greed compared to help the consumer.

[VariantAEC]

"these companies"
Did you mean: Microsoft?
No other company is doing this yet.

[Petebloodyonion]

LOL!
I guess you have played countless hours with Brock non-existent PS5 controller.
Or forgot that the PS4 controller perfectly works on PS5 except for PS5 games (despite that PS4 fight stick do)
How about you name me some of the unlicensed controllers for PS5?

[VariantAEC]

@Peteboodyonion
Scuf Reflex Pro
Razer Wolverine V2 Pro
Victrix Pro Arcade FS Arcade Fight Stick
HexGaming Rival
Supposedly, these are unofficial pads for PS5... Personally, I don't use 3rd party pads and haven't since PS2.

BROOK (not Brock) Wingman is a bridge to make Xbox controllers work on PS5 and PS5 controllers work on Xbox. The peripheral is not licensed by PS and yet... it works on PS5.

[Knightofelemia]

I wonder if Sony and Nintendo are going to do the same thing?

[Profchaos]

Sony maybe but Nintendo seems to be the least restrictive of the lot due to the nature of their os being fairly open in regards to connecting accessories my old PS gold headset works 100% with he USB adaptor and everytime I can't see them changing

[BrainSyphoned]

I love the people thinking this will actually stop cheaters and hackers. They cheat and will have products available to them within the week to keep cheating with. This is about money and nothing else.

[VariantAEC]

This probably won't stop cheaters in the moment either. So far as we know this only stops unlicensed HW. Are there any officially licensed cheater HW? Will all cheatware even be blocked fully? The answer is likely yes for the former, and no for the latter.

[Abear21]

Same way they restrict use of SSD/HDD

[Good-Smurf]

Scary how little media reported on this.
Scummy Microsoft got the idea from Dolby thinking "why not do the same with our controllers and accesories so no one can play our consoles using unlicensed or expired old 3rd party products, that'll teach them using anything else not licensed to be fancy by us"
You know Dolby are rolling deep with their Dolby Atmos/Vision license fees.
I was thinking about giving Series S a try as they're cheap used in Japan but after this news, they can kiss my ass they now tell me their product not worth my money pre owned or not.

[Profchaos]

Exactly I found that windows central was the first article I found and submitted but I only saw one other outlet cover it which surprised me normally this kind of news spreads like wildfire but the response has been non existent. Guess we will have to wait and see the impact

[isarai]

So no more generic controllers then, good luck with that. Preservation is really going to suck for this console in the future

[Kaze88]

So people who use cheating devices in console FPS games fucked around and everybody found out the outcome, great job guys.

[Gamingsince1981]

It's nothing to do with cheaters, it's all about those licensing fees 💵

[vietskytour]

What about people who bought these devices already?