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Bethesda mysteriously deletes tweet claiming Starfield physical editions won’t have discs

Starfield fans were left shocked today as the Bethesda Support account, in a now deleted tweet, claimed the physical edition wouldn't include a disc.

The tweet was in response to one fan asking if the Standard Edition of Starfield for Xbox Series X would include a disc. In that tweet, Bethesda Support said, “Hello!, All physical editions include a code for the chosen platform. There are no physical discs.”

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Battlestar23323d ago

Hopefully the backlash from fans have made them decide to put an actual disc in the case.

RpgSama323d ago

"Why Starfield not including physical disc is the right choice" articles coming.

Futureshark323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

"Starfield physical release doesn't come with a disk ... And why I'm fine with that."

"Starfield physical release not including a disk is the right choice."

Abear21323d ago

It will be interesting to see sales data on console, more likely you’ll see, “X million players downloaded” stat instead of sales numbers.
Taking away the used market helps them sell more copies. Pretty shady.

gold_drake323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

oh god dont even start, i can alteady see them comng haha

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TheKingKratos322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

Kinda suspicious that out of no where comes the articles about why it's ok that Starfield is 30fps, no vehicles, no CD and it's always the right choice

I mean it's kinda obvious that Xbox fanboys have such low standards that they will get happy with anything Microsoft is doing at this point

Stuart5756322d ago

'Why purchased copies of Starfield 'physical and digital' don't let you actually play the game, at all, and I'm okay with this.'

Microsoft: 'The game never actually existed, GOTY Edition coming soon'

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Terry_B323d ago

Never..its pretty save to say there won't be any physical copies.

aconnellan323d ago

This comment aged pretty poorly, standard edition will come with a physical disc while special edition will be digital

Abear21323d ago

Unfortunately more likely corporate greed will win out

SullysCigar323d ago

More likely they're trying to stifle negative news, just as they did with Redfall's 30fps, always online and not even Unreal Engine 5 after everyone reported it would be for YEARS.

Redfall bit them hard, despite them sweeping all that under the carpet until shortly before launch. They'll up the ante and concrete over details like this for Starfield, rather than risk a repeat scenario.

TheKingKratos322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

Wait, it requires online too ?! 🤔😮😮

neomahi322d ago

But it shouldn't have to be this way. Xbox has consistently worked and operated this way. It's "let's see what we can get away with" and when they get caught it's "we're sorry" and then they try and ice the cake with "you see, we're listening" yeah, right after you tried to sneak around our back and screw us over. But Xbots are forgiving because Xbox is struggling right now (because of a lot of stupid decisions just like this) and they don't want to see them finished off. You know how SEGA fans felt when the beloved SEGA Dreamcast was let go and Sonic the Hedgehog appeared on a Nintendo console? You had to live in that era. It was a travesty but resulted from SEGA of Japan making A LOT of bad decisions and destroying the trust they once had with their fanbase. Their fanbase left and went to PlayStation that was doing everything right. Microsoft could face this same fate, but their fanbase doesn't want to see that so they'll forgive all day long no matter how much their abused. Like a beaten Labrador that keeps coming back to irs abusive owner, so are Xbox only consumers. Those that have all three and a PC enjoy a variety without fear of losing what they value most, it's just another day, but lots of other software options to go after

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Abear21323d ago

Buy day one and you get…the most buggy and least complete edition and now there’s no way to recoup part of that $70 you paid. Buying day one is the worst thing you can do, thankfully there is Gamepass and it eases that sting on console.

How do you combat slow sales and the used game market when most will play on Gamepass?? You take away the ability to trade it in and boom, more sales

-Foxtrot323d ago

“and now there’s no way to recoup part of that $70 you paid”

This

For people where money is more tight and people have to plan purchases carefully, if they can finish the game and get some money back then it’s a bonus for them

Digital does not have that benefit

It’s the same with collectors editions, it was easier for digital only people to trade their physical game inside a steelbook to their local trade in shop rather than the other way around, they don’t take codes.

aconnellan323d ago

“How do you combat slow sales and the used game market when most will play on Gamepass?? You take away the ability to trade it in and boom, more sales“

With the confirmation that standard edition will have a physical copy, and the Special Edition (which isn’t available via Game Pass), do you still think this?

Gameseeker_Frampt323d ago

@Abear21

Is that why Sony isn't including a disc with the Spider-Man 2 Collector's Edition?

DigitallyAfflicted322d ago

We need to start talking with our money, the only language understood by greedy corporate people!

S2Killinit323d ago

MS being very… clever with the consumer’s right to ownership.

I’ve lost all hope in xbox fan base

Lightning77323d ago

So are you sharing the same energy with Spider-Mans special edition? No just stutters and mumbles.
Lost hope? How do you have hope for a platform you don't even like?

S2Killinit323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

@Lightning77
Yeah, I dont like it when anyone squeezes consumers’ ownership rights, regardless of who is doing it. The difference is that I DONT do what you two are doing to save face for MS! Like WTF man, whats wrong with people. You guys have forgotten how to be gamers because you are so in MS’s palm. They buy entire publishers and you cheer them on for taking games we all should be having, they slowly take game ownership and you say its “clever” or “well Sony did it too so its fine”…

Lightning77323d ago

Explain how am I saving face? Why in the hell would I like companies taking Away options? The slow killing of the frog is literally across the industry with no disc on these premium editions of games some flat out don't have a disc (Alan Wake)

Hell GP is making things worse imo. You can spare all that save face garbage.

I can't tell what a trillion dollar what to do. I've even said I don't care about the ABK deal. MS showcase proves they clearly don't need ABK at all, not even close.

Save all that nonesense and don't lump me im with anyone. It's best to be a multi console owner, instead of wining about everything.

S2Killinit322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

You know damn well this was MS’s vision from back in the xbox one days. Now you make sure to comment that Sony did such and such in order to defend MS. If you had any shred of logic you would either speak against this conduct or at the least you would refrain from defending them. It has come to a point that they know they can do and say whatever they want.

Dont lump you in? Ade you not one of their biggest proponents? If anything others should complain for being lumped with you.

Lightning77322d ago

"You know damn well this was MS’s vision from back in the xbox one days."

Now everyone's slowly doing it so what are we gonna do about it?

"Now you make sure to comment that Sony did such and such in order to defend MS. If you had any shred of logic you would either speak against this conduct or at the least you would refrain from defending them."

Alas this is the problem with you ppl. When you have a strong track record trolling, trashing, every single thing thing MS even the good things you spin into a negative all day every day. My assumptions about you are correct in your fandom all you gotta do is look at your comments. In other words if MS does something like this it's "it's all Xbox and Xbox only! "Only Xbox is doing it! Anti this and that " taking things to the extreme. While completely ignoring your favorite company is doing just that and not holding them accountable either. Again spread the energy.

You have no "hope" for Xbox because you're not an Xbox fan why would you have hope for a console you dont even like? Please explain that weirdness. You have no self awareness in your comments and actions. I can see those things you can't at all. It's bad that MS and is doing it, it's also bad that's Sony's doing. It's not good that SF is 30 it's also not good that 16 dips to 720p during battle. I understand why it's 30 and I understand why it hits 720p it's a dev choice and sacrifices have to be made.

Anyway.

"Dont lump you in? Ade you not one of their biggest proponents? If anything others should complain for being lumped with you."

Proponents for what? You don't like facts that's all I post here. Ppl rather be lied to, purposely post misquotes, out of context quotes, flat out make up their own news I can go on. All I do is clear things up and ppl here can't stand it. I could care any less I'm here to post the truth. I don't know who you think is "with me??"

TheColbertinator321d ago

@S2killinit

Yeah yeah we are hypocrites. Live with it.

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Christopher322d ago

Becoming quickly an industry standard. *sad noises*

CobraKai323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

It’s so lame that this is the “case” for physical games. I’m still very much peeved that Halo Infinite doesn’t have the game on disc and that special edition Spiderman 2 doesn’t include the disc, but has a disc case, which doesn’t make sense. It’s not about holding an item in my hand, it’s about having a hard copy.

I also like how there’s people claiming it was possible that Bethesda misunderstood the question posed on Twitter. Both the question and the answer was pretty cut and dry.

PhillyDonJawn323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Lies, I have Halo infinite on disk. Starfield is coming on disk. This was a misspoke. It's the special edition that comes with a code

RpgSama323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Even worse if that's the case, you pay more money for the special edition and you do not even receive an actual physical copy of the game?

CobraKai323d ago

@Philly
I also have Halo Infinite on disc, but there’s no game. Just data to load onto the xbox.

@RPG
It’s what keeps me from considering special editions. It just doesn’t make sense that the standard edition comes with a game disc and the special edition steel book case has a voucher?

PhillyDonJawn323d ago

No no no, you're backtracking/changing your comment. You said there's no disk! There is one. All games are install in today's age im and been going on since last gen.

CobraKai323d ago

Ok. I reread it. I should have said it doesnt have the game on THE disc.

franwex323d ago

Strange. I was expecting them to at least do what they did with fallout and have a couple of MB on the disc to then download like 100 gb

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk774h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73057m ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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Rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase could happen this week per industry insider

A renowned industry insider has suggested the rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase featuring Silent Hill 2 could happen this week.

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Petebloodyonion3h ago

Bogus!
Why would Sony do that and how would this benefit them?
1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event.
2) Risk of not having great coverage or proper coverage from the various source
3) It could give the impression that they are not confident in their own stuff.
4) They would miss the chance to hype the event losing viewers and losing free marketing time.

Again I'm calling it bogus unless it's a small showcase before the big one or because they want to announce that Hellbalde 2 is also coming on PS5.

SlothLordPootus2h ago

As far as I can remember, they typically give a week heads up for these sorts of things.

Lightning772h ago

I was about to say Sony always gives a week in advance for their show.

VersusDMC1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Last year it was a weeks notice.

https://blog.playstation.co...

May 17th announcement for may 24th show.

VersusDMC1h ago

Nintendo always tweets that a direct is happening tomorrow but no one cares.

Sony gives a week or days of notice and we get anti sony type fake outrage like this.

But good luck trying trying to get some Sony hate going...

Petebloodyonion1h ago

You just mention it!
Sony gives a week in advance NOT just a couple of days.
So I fail to see what Sony's hate movement I'm trying to start when it's a basic business strategy to not piss off your partners (ask Sega).
And I doubt it's hate to ask how it would benefit Sony in doing so.

thesoftware73050m ago(Edited 50m ago)

@Versus
Huh? What?

Bro you really should relax, if what you read was some kinda negative against Sony.... seriously, is that what you got from the comments?

Bro, he was debunking the rumor, and gave perfectly good reasons why it would be unlikely, and your Nintendo Direct comparison is different, as this is supposed to be a BIG Sony showcase, not a surprise 20 min direct, and Sony 's pattern has been one week.

Slow down warmonger.

VersusDMC21m ago(Edited 20m ago)

@thesoftware730

"1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event."

That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind?

And it's not like they need that many resources to cover the stream. They just need 3 people to react to the stream live and make some easy articles made up mostly of summaries of Sony provided press releases. They would have enough time to "prepare" if it was announced with one days notice.

Petebloodyonion59m ago

Before I get tons of replies for Sony given a week in advance, my initial comments are related to the notion that the Show could happen this week as the title mentions.
Now to be fair the complete article mentions that Jeff said the Show could happen later in May giving time for Sony to give the normal 7-day notice.

Again not trying to start a negative thing here just thinking that it's bogus that Sony will have a show this week

notachance7m ago

Yeah as much as I’d like to hear what sony’s 1st parties have cooked, it’s not their style to shadow drop a showcase.

Still waiting for ghost of tsushima 2, I’m ready whenever man..

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername18h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake17h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica3h ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos15h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername8h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic188112h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_11h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces11h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning7710h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde12h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher10h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson7h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan6h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan3h ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

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CrashMania18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz17h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff218312h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman17h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware73015h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde12h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel19896h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal13h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware73013h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_11h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7716h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake12h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel19896h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

Charal16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast16h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware73015h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast14h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast9h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto7h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel19896h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

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Babadook73h ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

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