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Deathdeliverer978d ago (Edited 978d ago )

Aaaaaand boom. Just like that I’m glad I didn’t buy it on my PS5. I don’t know HOW I knew it was going to come on gamepass. Don’t know if it leaked or what but somehow I knew it was going on gamepass pretty quick. I think the PS5 version has some minor graphical advantages and I liked the controller during the demo buttttt I’ll be just fine with this price. Time to open the gamepass app and get it to downloading on my series X.

GhostofHorizon978d ago

I'll just state that this is not a personal attack on what you did, I would have probably done the same.

It's just that posts like this make it really clear to people that buying a game when it comes out is just not worth it. I just really want to know how this affects the game overall. Clearly Bandai Namco is losing out on some money and a portion of that money is now pocketed by Microsoft. I just don't see how this is good for the industry moving forwards. There is ultimately less money being handed over to the developers.

In this case the game has been out for a while but it did make sure at least one person didn't buy the game and just waited to see what happened. If everyone does this, where does that leave us? Am I missing something?

Just looking for an adult discussion here everyone so leave your console war insecurities at the door.

jjb1981978d ago

I actually feel the same about this. I played the demo and was interested in it but willing to wait for a sale. Recently it was like $35 and I was close to pulling the trigger. So then I noticed it was showing on the Gamepass app yesterday. The problem is that this isn't the first time or even the fifth time this has happened. Gamepass is definitely making me avoid an Indie game purchase. Now I'm starting to question the purchase of a bigger-budget title because I feel like it might come to Gamepass. I used to impulse buy a ton of console games especially when they're on sale but because of GP, I just completely stopped.

monkey602978d ago

I genuinely believe that the subscription service is going to have a massive impact on game development.

I reckon development cycles will decrease massively as will budgets. In some instances it might push developers creatively as the risk of running an idea is lessened but the full experience will be hampered.

Essentially I expect games to become shorter, snappier experiences with a "hook" that won't get nurtured and developed as it should.

Streaming has influenced how Movies, TV and Music has all been written and produced. It would be naieve to believe it won't have as big an impact here.

And in direct response to DeathDeliverer above, if memory serves me well, Scarlet Nexus was announced at the Xbox showcase last year so that might have laid the foundations for the idea of a gamepass addition to your mind.. maybe ?

GhostofHorizon978d ago

@monkey - I'm not so sure about the length of the games being shorter, there is a scenario where I could see it actually being the opposite. With the Bethesda purchase, the flagship games are all really long. Imagine having someone subscribe to play Skyrim and a game like that will take you months to complete, after 6 months of playing, the person is now giving them more than $60 for Skyrim.

It's really hard to speculate in any particular part of Gamepass because we know so little about the deals that are being made and since it's still pretty recent when you consider a game development cycle.

Games coming out soon might be an indication, Halo is struggling a bit and will release in chunks but it's just one game so we can't conclude from it alone. Forza might give some more insight though.

I seems like the industry is still pretty healthy so it's going to be interesting to see how this unfolds, something has to give though.

monkey602978d ago

The other side of it is how battlepasses have shaped multiplayer games. Dragging out "seasons" of cosmetic nonsense and artificial currencies to keep a person hooked. Many games could be made with that kind of focus in mind to keep player base counts up using fomo as a draw.

Gears and others already have their feet in there.

Also look at how expansions are being used to keep people talking about the likes of State of Decay 2, Grounded and Sea of Thieves.
All of which could arguably been released far too early but it didn't matter because they could be used to pad out a service and content would be pushed out after launch to keep interaction.

I think GamePass has been both a blessing and a curse. The value of it in 3rd party and indie titles has been undeniable. To date though 1st party titles seem to have been a bad sign of things to come.

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FullmetalRoyale978d ago

I think when they revealed the game it was at an Xbox show, if I remember correctly. Maybe that is the source of the association?

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rlow15h ago

If they have follow up games that are bangers, then this strategy will work. But if it’s Call of Duty followed another dead period then it won’t last.

crazyCoconuts2h ago

From MS financial perspective I think it may be the opposite.
A year of GamePass on PC is less than the price of two full price games. For all the people that would have bought COD for $70 but instead started subbing for GP, MS will get an extra $50/year which is good.
However, for each banger that MS puts out, that's lost potential revenue because the GP sub won't need to buy it.
So it only makes sense where the new GP customers would have otherwise not spent more money with MS... Which is the case if MS puts out low quality shovelware.

rlow144m ago

If you’re looking at the short term you are correct. But if Xbox can have multiple bangers then subscriptions should increase. Which is what they want, recurring revenue.

Sonic18812h ago

I don't see it working if Call of Duty makes less money and profits over time from gamepass 🤔

blackblades1h ago

I dont understand why have it on it when we all know it sells with the name alone. Seems stupid to lose so much sales and $ just to have it on game pass. They basically shooting themselves in the foot with a already injured foot from all the other times they shoot themselves in the foot.

CrashMania53m ago

@blackblades, that's my exact point, even on xbox where most software sells poorly CoD still sells millions, but the thing is, if you don't put it on GP you kinda shatter the whole idea they've build GP up to be, they've dug this hole themselves.

I think it might tick up subscribers a bit, but warzone is already free and gets millions of players regardless of GP. But where will those extra subs come from? Xbox sales are dropping like a rock, PC gamers are very firmly rooted in Steam and will just buy it there.

Tacoboto16m ago

@black

If they don't include it on Game Pass, they lose the claim of First-Party Day-One on Game Pass, and thus would begin the slippery slope of what's-ok-to-not-include and the devaluing of the service, and further sinking Microsoft/Xbox's already tarnished reputation.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place and this move buys them time to work out more future-math.

Garethvk4h ago

When the game does not hit 1 Billion in revenue in under two weeks they will wonder why and the next thing you know; Season Updates will no longer be free.

Noskypeno3h ago

Yup, the CEO needs a new yacht and private jet

Abear211h ago

Yeah I expect paid DLC and season pass in your face, now you are buying for a game you are renting

purple1013h ago

subscribers go up, execs celebrate win, get bonus, price goes up, subscribers go down,

execs dont care, got their bonus,

MrDead2h ago

If it works CEOs and shareholders get a payday and if it doesn't even more studios get closed by MS so CEOs and shareholders get a payday.

Elda1h ago

It will sell on PC & PS but as long as COD is for rent on Gamepass it will not sell well on the XB platform. Most folks such as myself that like COD just for the campaign would rather rent it for that month instead of paying $70 plus tax for the game.

IAMRealHooman1h ago

Your smart.
its 70 for base plus 10 to 20 for a season pass plus another 30 for there better season pass,

darthv721h ago

...now you are finally getting how to use GP. No commitments, just play what is offered. if you like it so much and want to keep a copy for yourself... you can buy it when you want to. I used to buy games based on if they looked appealing and have been burned many times on things. With this, I can try before I buy. And I have actually bought several games after having rented them in the service. It literally is like the old days of renting only you get the whole store instead of pay per rental.

Elda1h ago

I've been knowing how to use Gamepass. I sub the service yearly & I play games on the service that I don't have to pay the full price for such as Persona 3:Reload. I mostly play & pay for games on my PS5 but if a game lands on GP that I'm interested in playing & I don't have to buy a copy for the PS5 I'll definitely play it on Gamepass.

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just_looken11h ago

Man this studio got hit with another round? it sucks there know for dead by daylight not saying that its a bad game because its not but because its from 2016 and this team has tossed a game out almost every year sense then but each game got worse and worse sales/notice.

meet your maker all done by them has 8 players playing on average via steam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
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Stuff like this looks like alot of work was done but so few sales this is what no doubt is causing all the layoffs.

January this year they laid off 45 people
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95 is this week so this news is new
https://www.msn.com/en-us/m...

Just back to back waves of layoffs.

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blacktiger1d 22h ago

AMAZING! Thank You Gabe, stand for freedom of speech!!!!

PRIMORDUS1d 22h ago

VPN to buy games, fuck that if it's allowed or not, or just use a VPN and torrent what you can.

seanpitt231d 10h ago

I just cannot believe we haven't had a game from them this generation nearly 4 years in.. crazy!

Knightofelemia1d 15h ago

If the game is crap then yes there will always be negative feedback it comes with the territory. It's called word of mouth or welcome to the internet. Where the truth about a game comes out really fast whether the game is good or crap. If you can't handle the criticism because of a game then why publish the game. Why should people who never criticized or even played the game be punished? Vietnam has some really screwed up laws block Steam because they don't answer us rule. And going on a witch hunt with Steam please. Where's the proof, where's the evidence of this witch hunt. Somebody is butt hurt and has a Vietnamese Karen leading the witch hunt.