Deathdeliverer957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

Aaaaaand boom. Just like that I’m glad I didn’t buy it on my PS5. I don’t know HOW I knew it was going to come on gamepass. Don’t know if it leaked or what but somehow I knew it was going on gamepass pretty quick. I think the PS5 version has some minor graphical advantages and I liked the controller during the demo buttttt I’ll be just fine with this price. Time to open the gamepass app and get it to downloading on my series X.

GhostofHorizon957d ago

I'll just state that this is not a personal attack on what you did, I would have probably done the same.

It's just that posts like this make it really clear to people that buying a game when it comes out is just not worth it. I just really want to know how this affects the game overall. Clearly Bandai Namco is losing out on some money and a portion of that money is now pocketed by Microsoft. I just don't see how this is good for the industry moving forwards. There is ultimately less money being handed over to the developers.

In this case the game has been out for a while but it did make sure at least one person didn't buy the game and just waited to see what happened. If everyone does this, where does that leave us? Am I missing something?

Just looking for an adult discussion here everyone so leave your console war insecurities at the door.

jjb1981957d ago

I actually feel the same about this. I played the demo and was interested in it but willing to wait for a sale. Recently it was like $35 and I was close to pulling the trigger. So then I noticed it was showing on the Gamepass app yesterday. The problem is that this isn't the first time or even the fifth time this has happened. Gamepass is definitely making me avoid an Indie game purchase. Now I'm starting to question the purchase of a bigger-budget title because I feel like it might come to Gamepass. I used to impulse buy a ton of console games especially when they're on sale but because of GP, I just completely stopped.

monkey602957d ago

I genuinely believe that the subscription service is going to have a massive impact on game development.

I reckon development cycles will decrease massively as will budgets. In some instances it might push developers creatively as the risk of running an idea is lessened but the full experience will be hampered.

Essentially I expect games to become shorter, snappier experiences with a "hook" that won't get nurtured and developed as it should.

Streaming has influenced how Movies, TV and Music has all been written and produced. It would be naieve to believe it won't have as big an impact here.

And in direct response to DeathDeliverer above, if memory serves me well, Scarlet Nexus was announced at the Xbox showcase last year so that might have laid the foundations for the idea of a gamepass addition to your mind.. maybe ?

GhostofHorizon957d ago

@monkey - I'm not so sure about the length of the games being shorter, there is a scenario where I could see it actually being the opposite. With the Bethesda purchase, the flagship games are all really long. Imagine having someone subscribe to play Skyrim and a game like that will take you months to complete, after 6 months of playing, the person is now giving them more than $60 for Skyrim.

It's really hard to speculate in any particular part of Gamepass because we know so little about the deals that are being made and since it's still pretty recent when you consider a game development cycle.

Games coming out soon might be an indication, Halo is struggling a bit and will release in chunks but it's just one game so we can't conclude from it alone. Forza might give some more insight though.

I seems like the industry is still pretty healthy so it's going to be interesting to see how this unfolds, something has to give though.

monkey602957d ago

The other side of it is how battlepasses have shaped multiplayer games. Dragging out "seasons" of cosmetic nonsense and artificial currencies to keep a person hooked. Many games could be made with that kind of focus in mind to keep player base counts up using fomo as a draw.

Gears and others already have their feet in there.

Also look at how expansions are being used to keep people talking about the likes of State of Decay 2, Grounded and Sea of Thieves.
All of which could arguably been released far too early but it didn't matter because they could be used to pad out a service and content would be pushed out after launch to keep interaction.

I think GamePass has been both a blessing and a curse. The value of it in 3rd party and indie titles has been undeniable. To date though 1st party titles seem to have been a bad sign of things to come.

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FullmetalRoyale957d ago

I think when they revealed the game it was at an Xbox show, if I remember correctly. Maybe that is the source of the association?

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz12h ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate10h ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts5h ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16245h ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg1h ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC59m ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

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gold_drake12h ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit9h ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS6h ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies4h ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT11h ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor9h ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21839h ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot10h ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit9h ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal8h ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS6h ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box6h ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Hypercharge Unboxed Dev Saddened By Claims It'll Be 'Dead' Without Xbox Game Pass

One of the big Xbox releases heading our way in May 2024 is the long-awaited Hypercharge Unboxed, which is finally bringing its "first and third-person shooter action figure game" to Xbox consoles on Friday, May 31st.

Sadly, ahead of launch, the game's official Twitter (or "X") account has been highlighting the "trolls" who are claiming that because it's not launching on Game Pass, Hypercharge Unboxed is already set up for failure on Xbox.

helicoptergirl20h ago

It's horrible what people will say, but the truth might be harsh. There is a good chance it might not do well on Xbox if it's not on GamePass. There is a strong possibility that is the case. We'll see.

When it launches on Playstation in the future you can rest assured it will sell much better. The devs have confirmed it's coming to Playstation in the future.

"It is built in the Unreal Engine 4. The game was released on the Nintendo eShop on January 31, 2020 and on Steam on April 27, 2020. The development of Hypercharge: Unboxed for the Xbox platform was officially announced on July 16, 2022, with the developers also confirming future support for the PlayStation."

ZeekQuattro19h ago

I remember having this on my radar years ago for the Switch but never pulled the trigger on it. Crazy it's still not on PlayStation yet.

northpaws11h ago

And that's the problem of GamePass.

JEECE10h ago

Unfortunately once people are conditioned to expect to get something as part of a subscription they already pay for, they are unlikely to buy it a la carte. Some games, including this one, now look like "Gamepass Games" to a huge chunk of the Xbox audience. Maybe this game will buck that trend, and I wish them luck, but I'd imagine they'll have a rough go trying to sell this game on Xbox.

shinoff21839h ago

Hopefully their game not selling on Xbox doesn't stop them from bringing it to ps. I can't imagine why a developer would go Xbox first if their not on gamepass. Good luck to them though.

JEECE9h ago

Yeah I can't figure that out either. I mean I understand why you go there first if you get a Gamepass payday, but if you are just trying to sell copies it doesn't make sense. Fewer users overall, and a smaller percentage of those users are willing to buy indie games a la carte.

Jingsing8h ago

Yeah, I can't understand it either unless there is some deep routed fan-boyism from the developer, which isn't very clever if you are trying to make a living. Fatshark is a perfect example of a developer sending their games to die on Xbox and they kept doing it.

Jingsing8h ago

British guy saying Xbox is his dream console doesn't really sit right does it. 5 generations of PlayStation in the UK and you haven't figured out what console is going to make you the most money. That is the mistake you've made.

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Epic Games Faces $1.2 Million Fine Over "Unfair Practices," Plans to Fight Back

Epic Games is facing a $1.2 million fine by the Netherlands Authority for Consumers and Markets over "unfair practices" in the Fortnite shop.

Sciurus_vulgaris1d 3h ago

It might be cheaper to simply pay the fine. Fighting said fine could cost millions due to court and lawyer fees. Fortnite generates well over a 100 million in each month, so Epic has plenty of cash.

franwex19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

But if they did pay it, then they are basically admitting that they did something they weren’t supposed to be doing. If they fight it, they may win and continue to have a sense of urgency for their micro transactions thus making more money long term.

Goodguy0111h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Meaning more suits to follow from others if they don't fight as well.

Not a fan of Epic nor fortnite and their micro transactions. But the game is heavily supported and is free to play, all store items are completely cosmetic.

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Furesis14h ago

I'd fight back too. These are kinda meaningless reasons to fine someone like really for THAT. It's like they just wanted to make money or something.

Sephiroushin4h ago

There is a law for something, but even if its stupid follow it because if you break it you pay for it; if they knew they cant place a “buy now” in NL then just dont do it!