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Bethesda bans Fallout 76 players for life after shocking in-game homophobic attack

Bethesda has banned a group of Fallout 76 players for life after a shocking in-game homophobic attack.

The move relates to an incident in which a group of Fallout 76 players targeted and harassed another group of players, saying over the proximity chat: "we have come to eliminate all gays."

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Neonridr2014d ago

Wow. I guess respect is something that isn't even taught to the youth of today. I don't know what's more disturbing, what I watched or the fact that the guys thought what they were doing was funny. Glad to hear they are banned forever. This stuff has no place in this world at all.

LucasRuinedChildhood2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

It's hard to deny that the youth of today show far more respect to gay people than previous generations. Other than that, I agree with your comment. I think that games journalists at times go out of their way to get offended and create clickbait articles but this is a real story. These guys were legitimately bad so I agree with Bethesda's judgement. However, the fact that it was so difficult to report these guys further highlights just how badly made Fallout 76 is.

I opted to watch one of the videos first before reading the entire article to form my own rough opinion on the incident. At first these guys were being so dumb that I thought that maybe they were intentionally acting idiotic to get some laughs (perhaps self-aware). The further you get into these videos, the more you realize that this is definitely not the case though. They really are just mean-spirited pricks.

Neonridr2014d ago

fair enough, unfortunately there's always these sorts of players that feel it necessary to ruin the experiences for others because they think it's worth a few laughs to themselves. Gad to see Bethesda at least stepped in and prevented these guys from doing this sort of stuff on their servers ever again. I agree there needs to be a better way to report offenders, but I think for something like this, only a video was going to suffice to show just how bad it was.

DaCajun2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

I was just talking about something similar the other day with someone about our youth. The conclusion we came up with if you just look at facts throughout history is there is nothing different from one generation to another. In general, with humans there has always been ignorant bigoted jerks since the beginning of humankind unfortunately. The worst disease to inflict humans if you ask me and for some reason continues to thrive and spread faster than most diseases thanks to the internet. The worst thing also is it will never change until the end of humans.

bluefox7552013d ago

The reason it gets clicks is because everyone knows why they're doing it. The expression: "There's no such thing as bad publicity" rings true on most games journalism these days. It's 100% about getting clicks, which is why they treat gay people like none of them have a spine.

Felix_Argyle_Catbro2014d ago

I guess generalization is a word that is not taught to old people, based on your comment.

Sono4212013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

honestly seeing articles like this constantly is getting old. There will always be immature edgy humor online because online is mostly filled with kids. If you're gonna perma ban every single person who makes an edgy joke you might as well just ban everyone. Or just a thought, you put the warning saying "online interactions aren't rated" and you aren't responsible for what happens online and then leave it at that, instead of selectively reacting to fake outrage and banning people. Don't like what someone is saying? Mute them, don't cry to Bethesda and ask for a ban you spineless millennials. Although I do understand the developer is in a rock and a hard place, because if they do nothing you'll see cancerous "news" sources calling them homophobic for not banning the wanna be edgy teens. It really comes down to the fact society is just becoming dumbed down and spineless, constantly running to authority and asking them to do something instead of doing it themselves. Pathetic.

nyu12014d ago

It's just them being edgy with dark humour, but it went too far and became too distasteful.

I can see how this kind of thing can be funny. I laughed at the way they said "Cleansing of the Queers". It's ridiculous, and that's the point. However if you're doing this you have to use common sense. Maybe in a party of close friends who know and appreciate that kind of silly humour, but otherwise not surprised they got banned. If you do want to do this kind of thing be a little more tasteful, maybe 'cleanse' some fictional group in the Fallout 76, not gays.

kayoss2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

Remember when hitler started saying, cleansing of the Jews and remember how that turn out? Joke or no joke, these subject matters are no longer up for humor. Same with racism.

DaCajun2014d ago

Ignorance begets ignorance

The world never changes.

nyu12013d ago

@kayoss

You can say that about half of comedy, but it doesn't work like that. Lots of humour targets certain groups.

At the end of the day you just have to be careful what you say and when you say it. If you say the wrong the joke and the wrong time don't be surprised when people find it too much and call you out.

81BX2013d ago

@kayoss
I laughed when I read it. Oh noooooos! Hitler is back!

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rainslacker2014d ago

I've noticed a lot of the youth of today that use racial slurs or spread racial or homophobic slurs, tend to do so more because they think it's funny, rather than being racist or homophobic. It's really sad that they think it's a joking matter. It can work in satire like South Park, but it's done in a way to show that those people using it are ignorant. In cases like this, it just make the person look ignorant.

deno2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

While I do agree with you on this. What really needs to be taught today, especially by parents, is morals. Everyone does what is right in their own mind.

DaCajun2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

I didn't disagree with you but unfortunately, some can't teach what they themselves don't have to begin with.

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Majin-vegeta2014d ago

Lol his response 10/10.Like banning will do anything...hell just go create another account.

darthv722014d ago

then that one will get banned and then the next and then the next. Like when rookie kept getting banned here and yet was making account after account to try and find his way back in.

I wonder what happened to him....? Did he clean up his act and now resides among us as a new persona or did he simply give up knowing he would be found out no matter how many accounts he tried to make.

The world may never know.

Christopher2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

@TheColbertinator

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You inviting me into those restriction areas?

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DragonbornZ2014d ago

@Darth
Yea it's less about putting a full stop to something and more along the lines of mitigation.

Obviously its within their power to create new accounts, but unless they're some vengeful hateful people who will just create multiple accounts to harass gay people, how likely is it they'll continuously want to risk their progress?

@TheColbertinator
Lol

RauLeCreuset2014d ago

Colbertinator, you are awesome. Don't ever let anyone tell you different.

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DaCajun2014d ago

OMG I forgot about that guy. lol

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DaDrunkenJester2014d ago

Getting banned for life seems like less of a punishment and more of a blessing in this game.

Rachel_Alucard2013d ago

The article is assuming life but the reality is it was only 3 days and one of the banned ones didn't even care enough to go back.

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Elda2014d ago (Edited 2014d ago )

If true...I'm wondering how did they know what players were Gay from playing a videogame in the first place,unless they were just making it up. Though in most cases folks that Gay bash are the usual suspects that are fighting within themselves of mutual attraction of the same gender,though some also do this from "fear" of the unknown. Js.

Rachel_Alucard2013d ago

The victim was hitting on one of the attackers earlier, that's how they knew.

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Mroc132013d ago

The victim got what was coming then

slate912013d ago

He called one of the other player's outfits "cute". I wouldnt call that hitting on them.

CorndogBurglar2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

Is no one going to bring up the fact that the "victims" were all running around with nothing but tight whitey underwear on and telling other players in the game that they thought their clothes were "cute"?

I suppose that doesn't make it okay to get harassed, but let's be realistic here. These guys were purposely trying to make other players uncomfortable by doing this. There's no other reason for it.

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CorndogBurglar2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

The "victims" were running around as a group wearing nothing but tighty whitey underwear and telling other Male players in the world that they thought their outfits were "cute". And we only know that because that's what one of the "victims" said. Who knows what else they might have said.

So lets try to be a little more realistic.

1. This is a game where the entire point is to be able to kill other players. Whether you have a reason to or not, it's one of the main features of the game.

2. These victims were very obviously trying to make other players uncomfortable if they are traveling as a group of Male characters wearing nothing but underwear and telling other male players how cute they think they look.

I don't want to sound like they deserved it or anything like that at all. Following them around and killing them and talking the way they were is certainly not acceptable. But again, it's a game where other players can attack and kill you for no reason at all. So maybe going around and doing something that other people may find offensive or uncomfortable is not the smartest thing to do of you don't want something like this to happen?

What I really get tired of in society is how people with "different" sexual orientations can play the offended card anytime they want, but a straight person is not allowed to be offended or uncomfortable by them? It's sort of a double standard.

Elda2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

You make a good point. It's just a game anyways but folks going around even in a game saying kill the Gays is somewhat disturbing.Running around in underwear some may find it disturbing but it's just a videogame,it seems like a no win situation...lol.

InTheZoneAC2013d ago

By your logic when everyone calls each other n-word in online games that means they want to be a slave themselves? Your blanket statement is old and holds no actual truth. Sorry.

Elda2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

If you're referring to my initial comment your analogy doesn't make any sense what so ever. It's been proven in psychology studies including real life cases that in most cases (not all) the usual person that always go out their way to call Gay people names like (f*ggot) or even to assault them are the usual closet cases. Their usually bothered by the fact that they don't have the courage to be want they want to be & take their frustration out on that Gay individual because they have the courage to be who they are,sometimes it's to get the persons attention but they don't have the courage to do so so they do it in a negative way. In other cases it's pure immaturity/ignorance so they become bullies because they fear a culture/lifestyle that they know nothing about & only know the negative stereotypes that their peers may have told them especially if it involves religion,somewhat of a comparison of what people of color had to go through in the 50's & 60's (racism) which has somewhat resurfaced in the USA because of the now Trump era.

InTheZoneAC2013d ago

we're talking about online chat, not physical assault.

Elda2013d ago

Gay bashing/bullying is harassment no matter if it's physical,verbally or behind a keyboard it's all in the same pot including the fact that these idiots/cowards do this because there are reasons behind why they do it.

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parris2014d ago

I'm offended that Bethesda got offended... is what type of comments I'm sure this thread will end up being full of.

CaptainObvious8782014d ago

When there's an actual legitimate case of extreme harassment I have no issue with the culprits getting punished.

But I do have an issue when "punching a virtual feminist in RDR2" is considered violent and all men are labelled sexist for one persons actions.

RacerX2014d ago

Bethesda created a game revolved around killing eachother, where "extreme harassment" is actually encouraged. Other than the targeting of homosexuals, that is the game they created.

whothedog2013d ago

Shooting and killing people is ok, but saying mean words is over the line. There is a thing called a block button, maybe he should of used that.

PapaBop2014d ago

Being offended over trivial things like a character in a revealing outfit for a game that person had no interest in in the first place is completely different from someone suffering from online abuse in a game. I wished more companies would take a zero tolerance policy on online abuse like Bethesda has done here.

Majin-vegeta2014d ago

Abuse?Lol please unless they're hurting him in real life this isn't abuse.Just cuz a few words hurt him.

81BX2013d ago

Abuse?!?!?!? Agaahahahaaa
You guys are too much

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Why Microsoft Putting Black Ops 6 On Game Pass Is The Ultimate Test

By putting Black Ops 6 on Game Pass, Microsoft plans to gauge its growth, pricing, and monetization changes, at the cost of less game sales.

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rlow117h ago

If they have follow up games that are bangers, then this strategy will work. But if it’s Call of Duty followed another dead period then it won’t last.

crazyCoconuts15h ago

From MS financial perspective I think it may be the opposite.
A year of GamePass on PC is less than the price of two full price games. For all the people that would have bought COD for $70 but instead started subbing for GP, MS will get an extra $50/year which is good.
However, for each banger that MS puts out, that's lost potential revenue because the GP sub won't need to buy it.
So it only makes sense where the new GP customers would have otherwise not spent more money with MS... Which is the case if MS puts out low quality shovelware.

rlow113h ago

If you’re looking at the short term you are correct. But if Xbox can have multiple bangers then subscriptions should increase. Which is what they want, recurring revenue.

S2Killinit5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I think this is more about microtransactions. MS wants to see if the upfront losses will be offset by more people login into the “free” game and buying more microtransactions to justify not selling as much COD games.

I honestly not sure. I feel like everyone who likes COD is already playing/buying it so I’m not sure how much more engagement they can get by putting it on gamepass. On the other hand, I also feel a lot of COD players are casual gamers, and they are the type to click on anything that is “free” ex: mobile gaming style

Sonic188114h ago

I don't see it working if Call of Duty makes less money and profits over time from gamepass 🤔

blackblades14h ago

I dont understand why have it on it when we all know it sells with the name alone. Seems stupid to lose so much sales and $ just to have it on game pass. They basically shooting themselves in the foot with a already injured foot from all the other times they shoot themselves in the foot.

CrashMania13h ago

@blackblades, that's my exact point, even on xbox where most software sells poorly CoD still sells millions, but the thing is, if you don't put it on GP you kinda shatter the whole idea they've build GP up to be, they've dug this hole themselves.

I think it might tick up subscribers a bit, but warzone is already free and gets millions of players regardless of GP. But where will those extra subs come from? Xbox sales are dropping like a rock, PC gamers are very firmly rooted in Steam and will just buy it there.

Tacoboto12h ago

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If they don't include it on Game Pass, they lose the claim of First-Party Day-One on Game Pass, and thus would begin the slippery slope of what's-ok-to-not-include and the devaluing of the service, and further sinking Microsoft/Xbox's already tarnished reputation.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place and this move buys them time to work out more future-math.

crazyCoconuts12h ago

I still expect a price increase in GP to compensate but who knows. With all the factors in play like COD points there are too many variables for someone on the outside to predict what will happen. I assume they have a forecast model where this all looks peachy.

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Garethvk17h ago

When the game does not hit 1 Billion in revenue in under two weeks they will wonder why and the next thing you know; Season Updates will no longer be free.

Noskypeno16h ago

Yup, the CEO needs a new yacht and private jet

Abear2113h ago

Yeah I expect paid DLC and season pass in your face, now you are buying for a game you are renting

neomahi2m ago

That's where they're relying on PC and PlayStation gamers to pick up the slack. They know their business model isn't lasting so in order to give it away "free" for Xbox, they're banking on PC and PS5 customers to make up for the sales loss on Xbox, otherwise they wouldn't be able to pull this off like they want to. Xbots don't see it but, it's their gaming brethren that'll keep their console manufacturer afloat a little longer because the service they hold so dear isn't viable anymore. So, it's by the good graces of their fellow gamers they live to fight another day.

Consumers don't understand how Xbox Game Pass really works. It's not about the volume, and maybe Xbox doesn't want them to know. It's not about how many games you play. Developers don't make money by how many people play their game, it's HOW LONG you play. How many hours to put in.

Customers like David Jaffe that only like to sample don't help the service succed. Jaffe is a cheapskate stoner who spends all his money on Diet Coke, Jolly Ranchers, and weed to fry his brains (it's medically proven, sorry to disappoint) but Jaffe wants as much as he can get for as little so, he's not much of an advocate. But he also plays games for a little while and then gives up, it's just his personality, maybe A.D.D. or something, but Game Pass is dependent on how long a gamer sinks hours in. Why do you think Phil Spencer wants Helldivers 2? Because gamers don't put it down. Hellblade II, they'll play the campaign and then be done. Games like that sink to the bottom of the pile, they disappear. Xbox LIKES Games as a Service business models because it sells their service, but that model doesn't work for Sony, Helldivers was a stroke a luck, lightning that won't hit twice because PS fans don't want that. But that's how Xbox keeps it's games at the top of the list and on their service. The longer you play a single game, that's how devs make money

purple10115h ago

subscribers go up, execs celebrate win, get bonus, price goes up, subscribers go down,

execs dont care, got their bonus,

MrDead14h ago

If it works CEOs and shareholders get a payday and if it doesn't even more studios get closed by MS so CEOs and shareholders get a payday.

Elda14h ago

It will sell on PC & PS but as long as COD is for rent on Gamepass it will not sell well on the XB platform. Most folks such as myself that like COD just for the campaign would rather rent it for that month instead of paying $70 plus tax for the game.

IAMRealHooman14h ago

Your smart.
its 70 for base plus 10 to 20 for a season pass plus another 30 for there better season pass,

darthv7213h ago

...now you are finally getting how to use GP. No commitments, just play what is offered. if you like it so much and want to keep a copy for yourself... you can buy it when you want to. I used to buy games based on if they looked appealing and have been burned many times on things. With this, I can try before I buy. And I have actually bought several games after having rented them in the service. It literally is like the old days of renting only you get the whole store instead of pay per rental.

Elda13h ago

I've been knowing how to use Gamepass. I sub the service yearly & I play games on the service that I don't have to pay the full price for such as Persona 3:Reload. I mostly play & pay for games on my PS5 but if a game lands on GP that I'm interested in playing & I don't have to buy a copy for the PS5 I'll definitely play it on Gamepass.

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Behaviour Interactive Is Laying Off 95 People

Behaviour Interactive is facing redundancies, with almost 100 people affected, mostly affected in Montreal.

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just_looken23h ago

Man this studio got hit with another round? it sucks there know for dead by daylight not saying that its a bad game because its not but because its from 2016 and this team has tossed a game out almost every year sense then but each game got worse and worse sales/notice.

meet your maker all done by them has 8 players playing on average via steam
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Stuff like this looks like alot of work was done but so few sales this is what no doubt is causing all the layoffs.

January this year they laid off 45 people
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95 is this week so this news is new
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Just back to back waves of layoffs.

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Why is Steam Blocked in Vietnam? Government Shares Reason

Finally, the Vietnamese government has officially responded to Steam being blocked in the country.

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blacktiger2d ago

AMAZING! Thank You Gabe, stand for freedom of speech!!!!

PRIMORDUS2d ago

VPN to buy games, fuck that if it's allowed or not, or just use a VPN and torrent what you can.

seanpitt231d 23h ago

I just cannot believe we haven't had a game from them this generation nearly 4 years in.. crazy!

Knightofelemia2d ago

If the game is crap then yes there will always be negative feedback it comes with the territory. It's called word of mouth or welcome to the internet. Where the truth about a game comes out really fast whether the game is good or crap. If you can't handle the criticism because of a game then why publish the game. Why should people who never criticized or even played the game be punished? Vietnam has some really screwed up laws block Steam because they don't answer us rule. And going on a witch hunt with Steam please. Where's the proof, where's the evidence of this witch hunt. Somebody is butt hurt and has a Vietnamese Karen leading the witch hunt.