Modern Warfare 3 Engine Adds 'A Lot Of Cool Stuff'

NowGamer: Infinity Ward's Robert Bowling has confirmed that the engine for the next Call of Duty game will bring plenty of new features...

[CrimsonEngage]

I'm calling Bullshit. How much more can you enhance such an old quake engine? COD games still use death animations ffs.

[jimmins]

Surely it hardly resembles the original engine any more?

[CrimsonEngage]

While that's true, eventually they will be forced to use a newer/more up to date engine. Especially when the next consoles start rolling out. Their is only so much you can do with such an old engine. They are currently using an old id tech engine.

If they are to use a new engine they should invest in the new ID Tech 5 that powers RAGE.

[--------]

I bet at Activision they're calling it 'Money For Free' not MW3.

Why else do you think money came flying out of the enemies you killed in MW2? ;)

I'll give you a hint: It's not the enemies you were 'wasting'.

[I_find_it_funny]

screw new features, bring something groundbreaking... oh its CoD I forgot

[Peppino7]

Does the engine change the gameplay? Doubt it.

[Millah]

Well using such an updated older engine also allows COD to run at a smooth 60 FPS without any slowdown whatsoever, and it also allows the game to run on fairly low spec PC setups.

So there are positives and some drawbacks. It's not like MW2 was a bad looking game. In fact part of the games success is how good the gun models look and how fast and smooth it runs. Most of my friends who are average gamers all started playing MW2 (and hate Black Ops) because of MW2s graphics. Yes, MW2 is obviously not the best game graphically, but most average joes think it is because of the little tricks IW uses. They are very good at focusing all the detail where most people are paying attention, and the finer details suffer (like environments or particle effects).

It would be silly to invest the time and resources into a new engine NOW. Like you yourself said, it would make sense to invest in a new engine for the NEXT GEN consoles.

[captain-obvious]

explosions well have 2 more sparks in this game
and thats enough for all the sheep to go and buy it

[mastiffchild]

I don't like paying for COD games because i dislike the slash and burn, short sighted work of Mr Kotick but the missus always makes me buy it as a present for her(cos she likes it and knows it winds me up I guess). Thing is even she is sick of the incremental improvements which do nothing to improve what's still, basically,a mere expansion every year for COD4.

I'm not bagging it because, even now, COD4 is a good shooter and definitely a good game that appeals to a ton of gamers. however, I don't want to hear about little improvemtns to the engne. I don;'t want to know what they're doing for the killstreaks this time round.

No. There's only ONE big thing that they should have done a long time ago that would be piss easy to do and improve the MP which everyone buys it for(the SP has been SHIT since COD4)-give EVERYONE dedicated servers. Allow trhe PC version more options and freedom and give console gamers the servers your profits beg you deliver to them.

Seriously, we are meant to care about little engine improvements when it's the crap they give us every year before shipping an under tested, beta free game nearly the same as the one before it but in a different box? P2P from the biggest selling shooter in the world is a sick, feeble joke and one we should all be onto by now.

Treyarch's Zombies are a cute diversion, but nothing more and i'm sick of lag and crippled hosting killing what should still be an enjoyable,if throwaway,fast paced romp of a MP shooter. Blops method of gimping hosts ruined the PS3version of the game making host migration(which still works maybe one time in five for us)a constant game killer because nobody wanted to be the nerfed host.

The number of people who've said to me they know without looking that they're hosting by how off the pace they are is amazing and it's so true that being host really can suck in this game. Sure, I can see why host advantage needs avoiding too but they went way too far and what resulted is a near game breaking issue-it's left me having to wait half an hour to get into a game can actually finish.

So, dedicated servers all round and I might even not regret having to buy it this year! Just don't bet on it happening as it would improve the gamers experience and not their profits on the face of it despite making gamers probably more loyal.

[Scrotie_McBoogerball]

Keep on wishing for that MastifChild.

Sounds like what we all want, but you no that Mr. Kotic will never allow dedicated servers on consoles for his games. He doesn't have to.

Like you said the silly (your missus) and you for caving in and buying, will still end up getting it regardless of the fact that there will be nothing new at all.

I am not buying it though, my missus hates COD :-)

[stevenhiggster]

@Scrotie

bubbles just for that name lol :-)

[hiredhelp]

Screw your engine screw your perks screw your peer to peer
Screw your price hike,
Ive fallen victim to many times pushed into buying it cos mates got it you bring nothing.
NOW BRING ON BATTLEFIELD 3 the way it should be done.

mastiffchild buddy you need to write a article you said soo much there.

[-Superman-]

A Lot Of Cool Stuff

Ye we know, best engine ever.

NOT

[BiggCMan]

Yea lots of cool stuff. More garbage in the trash bins, more flying papers in the alleyways, more rats in the sewers, thats a bunch of awesome stuff right there.

[blumatt]

I had better add a lot of "cool stuff" if they want me to purchase it. If it's still the same game engine they've used in the past 5 games, then you can count me out. I'm more interested in giving my money to developers who actually use the money they make to improve their games' engines, like the devs. of Battlefield and Killzone.

By now, we should be seeing a CoD game that looks twice as good as CoD4. Activision is a lazy and greedy company that only cares about money and ignorantly shows favoritism towards the 360, when the PS3 version always sells upwards of 5 million units. That may not be as much as the 360 version sells, but that's still should be enough to justify putting some effort towards bringing parity to the two games (both games looking the same).

Overpriced dlc + same game over and over + same game engine over and over + same glithces over and over = me not buying it. (Let's hope they do something amazing this time around!)

[tdrules]

for all the critique gets, it can still get 60fps for a first person shooter which is incredibly vital.
For some reason people seem to think a stuttering but beautiful 30fps shooter cuts it...

[venom06]

what atuttering 30fps game is this fool talkin about?? Bad Company 2 kicks CoD ass all up and down the street... too bad all these pimple-faced, nerdy little kids can't see that.. but then again, maybe it's better that they stay on that dumb ass arcadey game..

[damnyouretall]

6o fps is cool and all but their benchmark is seriously holding them back. i have no problem at all with a 30fps bf3 on consoles. if all you want is a smoother framerate then buy cod. thats all your gonna get cause the game will probably blow dick hole

[lil Titan]

the only difference i will see in this game is that it has a 3 after Modern Warfare instead of 2 this time

[Shaman]

Infinity Ward,despite all the shit they have to swallow from people,are really,REALLY full of great programmers.MW2 looked great,thats a fact.Their lighting and depth of field implantation are fantastic,especially for 60fps game,something that other shooters aren't doing.Character models and faces are also great since they have PROBABLY the best character artist and designer in bizz(Steven Giesler).

Gun models are IMO best that you can find and now with streaming tech their textures are much better than in original MW.You can hate the game all you want but having 2003 engine means a little now,8 years later,since they changed everything that can be changed in it.Its called IW engine 4.0(MW2),I'm sure next COD will look awesome.Again,I repeat,especially for 60fps game.

And honestly,whats with all this Battlefield 3 d*** riding?Yea,it looked great(with 3rd party Enlighten engine implanted in Frostbite2) on 580GTX and DX11 enabled,but where is console footage?As far as I remember I was more impressed with MW2 than BC2 on consoles.Sure BC2 was native 720p,but it was jagg fest running at 30fps,forward rendering(very little light sources available,only one light dynamic(sun)),with no motion blur or other post processing effects like depth of field or lens flares.It was never a showcase although BF3 is,for now only on PC.

[Coheno]

You sir forget that IW is not the same IW it was when they made MW and MW2. All the senior people pretty much left along with the founders to start Respawn Ent. And those are the guys i'll be following, and thus won't be buying this moneywhoring game!

[Shaman]

No,not really.I mean,there were ~100 people working at IW and 30 left.If anything,next MW can't look worse/same as MW2 since updated engine is already there and all those 35 people worked on it till late 2010.Huge part of the game was finished when they left.Not that thats not going to hurt,it will,but not nearly in the same way next COD will hurt them without those people being on project from beginning.

[Gamer_Z]

Do you really think MW3 is going to look better than MW2 when Black Ops looked like poo, if anything the graphics seem to be getting worse. FYI COD4 guns looked better then MW2's guns also character models, and maps all looked a lot better than MW2’s and that was when the real Infinity Ward was still at the helm, not devs that have never worked on a COD game before.

[Coheno]

@Shaman

Well 1/3 of the studio left, 14 or so of them 6 months into the development (if I remember correctly), plans for the game and story was probably done, but hardly a game thats done. And losing all the leading developers is hardly a good thing, thats why they needed Sledgehammer, so they got pulled off of that 3rd person CoD game.

I don't know... I think this game is gonna be a mess and seems like more of a rollercoasterride than MW2. Although I won't be getting it, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out!

[venom06]

WHO GIVE A FUCK WHERE'S THE CONSOLE FOOTAGE??? that the best arguement you can do??? it's gonna be just like EVERYTHING we've seen so far (EPIC) except for a fewer number of players.. CoD is CoD no matter what tag is behind the name.. it promotes camping and is arcade-bullshit. It's just so many pimple-face, 12 yr old lone-wolf nerds like sitting in a corner camping, that this garabge sells good..... unbelievable..

[damnyouretall]

yeah we need a frostbite 2.0 tech demo for the consoles to really get into the details between the engines. but mw2 looked better than bc2, im not gonna argue that. i have a gut feeling that fb 2.0 will look great for consoles. kinda like doom 3 and half life 2 for the original xbox. not the same as the pc but the core stuff was there that made the games great. even without the flasy effects.

[the_best_player]

crap engine crap game

[Trunkz]

Haha! If they have to do big changes to their engine, it's cause they know BF3 is being a big threat to their series!

[50Terabytespersec]

LOL why not get it on PC ! I refuse to play it on 360 or PS3 and I own a PS3. But at the low res it runs on the consoles I am very offended and prefer to play on my PC with full res and effects!!
Don't kid yourself this watered down 360 game is not worth the price!! It is the old Doom 3 engines and yes the new Doom 4 engine (also used for rage) is what it should be using!!.
But no way no Console low def games on my 1080p Bravia. My eyes hurt from the blurry textures LOL

[GameGambits]

Give me dedicated servers on consoles or gtfo.

[PhantomT1412]

It's not that it's old. IW only based their engine on the source code of the quake engine which was made free since 2005. They altered the software so much it could be called "in-house".
It's just that Call of Duty sticks to 60 FPS on console. Enhancing the graphics on this generation of console without droppign the frames or the resolution (they've already done that for Black Ops, and when comparing between PC and consoles, the gap is larger than ever) is really difficult, I don't expect a huge leap like we've seen with CoD2->4 nor even MW->MW2...

[lugia 4000]

Like what? The same thing?

[CaptainMarvelQ8]

More PERKS
Wohoooo!

[starcb26]

More UNBALANCED PERKS
Wohoooo!

Fixed it for you :)

[NarooN]

More shitty non-existent hit-detection!

[spunnups]

More bugs, glitches, and lag than ever before! Step right up and drop $60 on the table for of the same!

[CrimsonEngage]

I giggled for a good 2 minutes. Get ready for smaller maps and even shittier spawn points! :D

[Zydake]

Wow giggle? ....

[Morbius420]

And go easy on the passes.

[Raendom]

I will seriously eat my hat if MW3 has destruction like BF3 (talkin' non-scripted, real-time destruction).

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[Solid_Malone]

hahaha well said :)

[emekcrash]

Not like BF3 will do it even better.

[Scrotie_McBoogerball]

When they said they where implementing some sort of destruction to this COD I laughed. Now the multi player levels come with maybe 2 or 3 scripted destruction points.

AMAZING lol.

Now you might get the affect of makeng all the nerds rush out to the "scripted wall" that you have to RPG to get to the camp spot above the level or something horrible like that.

[Scrotie_McBoogerball]

When they said they where implementing some sort of destruction to this COD I laughed. Now the multi player levels come with maybe 2 or 3 scripted destruction points.

AMAZING lol.

Now you might get the affect of making all the nerds rush out to the "scripted wall" that you have to RPG to get to the camp spot above the level or something horrible like that.

[Morbius420]

I got a nice fedora @ Khol's.

[gamingisnotacrime]

for gamers is the same old sht

[goaliegonzalez28]

cod hype probably some minor no game changing changes at best

[MGRogue2017]

Looking forward to what the new improvements brings for MW3 & Call Of Duty as a whole.

[earbus]

Lovers gunna love.

[Raven_Nomad]

Cant wait! I know it's not popular here, which means it's popular everywhere else. I love the COD games and cannot wait to see some new info on the next in the series.

Midnight launch like usual for me, already a ton of teams signing up on Gamebattles.

[BeastlyRig]

look at black ops! There is all the mw3 info you need!

[Raven_Nomad]

Black Ops played NOTHING like MW2, thankfully. They are made by different companies and used different modified engines.

Try to play down the COD franchise as much as you want but it will be the biggest game this year. I am an actual fan of the franchise so I don't want them messing with what works. I am really excited to see what Sledgehammer and Raven can do, they both have done amazing games in the past themselves.

People always find a reason to at least publicly hate on whats popular. I am sure 90% of the people here hating on it will still buy the game....lol

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@Hellsvacancy
I have been to around six midnight launches, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Gears 2, Modern Warfare 2, Black Ops and Kinect.

[radphil]

"Try to play down the COD franchise as much as you want but it will be the biggest game this year."

Smoking is one of the biggest habits on the planet, but we know that's sure as hell not healthy.

[Hellsvacancy]

"Midnight launch like usual for me" wow, really? how many midnight launches hav you attented?

Ive never bought a game a midnight, Hitman V and Deus Ex 3 are the games i want above all others, still dont think id go to a shop a midnight and buy them

[damnyouretall]

if im bored ill do a midnight launch. i think im gettin old cause i dont get that excited for games anymore. the 720 and ps4 will get me back in it though. and i have a day one ngp, kinda excited bout that.

[Morbius420]

Going to midnight launches is a lot of fun and a great way to meet new friends.

[Gamer_Z]

@Raven_Nomad

You think Sledgehammer and Raven Softworks two devs that have never worked on a COD game before can do better than Treyarch who have been making COD since COD WAW!? I dont think so, i think the game is going to turn out like BO or worse but I’m sure that you and millions of other people will still buy MW3 making Activision millions of dollars that will never be spent on improving the engine because you and millions of people will still buy it, do you see the cycle here?

[Ravenor]

They've...they've been doing it longer then WaW.

[missioncompleted]

Since were on midnight launch list! GTA IV, killzone 2, fallout new Vegas -took my wife she like rpg's, and finally (hangs head in shame) medal of honor. I have disposable income so the social aspect of midnight launch has always been fun to me. Also I like COD modern warfare series not treyarch COD

[cyclonus007]

No need to hang your head. I liked Medal of Honor's single player campaign a hell of a lot more than Black Ops. Barely touched the multiplayer but I still own the game and dumped Black Ops within a week.

[Yangus]

Look out for the FIRST!!gameplay trailer tomorrow.

Judge after that!!

[diehardgamer1000]

wat i don understand is, wit all the money they have...why couldnt they invest in another engine? they are making more money than EA but it seems they still want to get something out of nothing that is the old engine...u can only make so much modifications to the various components of the engine. u could played around with the animation, the networking part, the rendering pipeline. but components like AI and particle physics are difficult to solve even up to now and even worse with an old engine.This game cldve been much more if only they introduced a new engine.i see Activision relying too much on marketing and its funny how they seem to not want to lose money by creating a new engine but will rather spend it with a huge marketing campaign.

[DirtyLary]

Because they don't need to. They know the game will sell on the same old engine. They aren't forced to yet.
They could sell flaming bags of dog shit and still sell the same numbers.

[a_bro]

new feature, the game will be displayed in 480p then upscaled to HD to pretend its HD...

[ambientFLIER]

Why would they do that, when it's 600p now?

[a_bro]

cause if their adding more stuff to an engine that plays and runs like crap, something must be sacrificed LOL

[X-Zone]

It's never a good sign when a developer says 'a lot of cool stuff' because it normally means, the same stuff with different names.

[liveActionLeveler]

That's an amusing comment, because Robert Bowling is not a developer; he's only the community manager for MW3.

[X-Zone]

Yeah, a mouth piece in other words for the developer.

[damnyouretall]

yeah thats the best they have " lot of cool stuff" after what ea is showing with their modern war game. i feel bad for them , but i will give them another chance with the next gen hardware. i lost interest with the current shit.

[Bluemaster77]

An aforementioned point brought up death animations , yes those are extremely dated. The call of duty franchise is very stagnating to the progress of gaming , luckily Battlefield 3 is looking to push things forward for the genre.

[SRTold]

I never bought black ops, and I will not buy MW3. Modern Warfare 2 was the last call of duty I will ever play. Why? Because of what happened to Infinity Ward's Vince Zampella and Jason West, and their co-workers.

I am having fun watching as the Call of Duty franchise gets activisioned, much like the Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk franchises.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

The only thing that keeps me from totally jumping ship is the concept of an A and B team Activision is using for the franchise. Each team is getting a full 2yrs (supposedly) to make and develop their game... so each iteration has felt full and feature packed and not just some thrown together sequel like we saw from the likes of Dragon Age 2 this year.

[PLAYER5095]

YAY! cant wait n see wut theze new features are.

[Kee]

Hmm... I like the engine and how it works. I feel at home in it, as weird as it sounds.
If they built a new one from the ground up, how do we know it'll still have that classic, fast-paced CoD gameplay?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I actually am quite interested to see what MW3 does. They are facing a lot of pressure from BF3 so its upon them to impress us with change and innovation otherwise we certainly will see BF3 pull many COD gamers over.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

It doesn't even matter as soon as everybody sees gameplay for it you're gonna wanna buy this game....happens eeevery year.

[godsinhisheaven]

Lazy

[Nate-Dog]

Lol love how he called it the "MW2 engine" even though it's the CoD4 engine that has been used for the past 4 games.

[Ravenor]

You mean it's the one that launched with CoD2 and has only gotten iterative updates every year.

[Killzone3___]

ook , here is the answer of not making a new engine , they are really stupids and lazy to make a new engine , they get used to the old engine so they don't want to learn to a new engine..

they don't want to waste time to make and learn to a new engine ...

i don't care since i'll buy it but that is the answer you looing for it ...

[yog-sothot]

If only a fraction of the sales could go to other games... If only those 10+ millions who play nothing but CoD could try something else, even another online shooter.

Not happening, unfortunately

[CaptainPunch]

Still interested to see a gameplay trailer

[iGaMei]

I understand why everyone is upset with it being the same but with it being worked on by 3 companies you guys don't think we will see some kind of difference?

[Jacobster]

Would be very funny if they made a jawdropping new engine! But I won't hold my breath. I wonder how long they have been working on this game?

[ILikeTurtles]

Lol it's a guy from IW xD
do they expect him to say "It's the same 1999 engine as always without any new cool features".

[ILikeTurtles]

+ PLEASE don't buy more CoD's!

[retrofly]

Make me, I'm going to buy 2 copies, for everyone who doesn't.

You know Gears of War is based on the unreal engine which is almost as old as quake, but no one batters an eyelid. Oh yeah becuase its nothing remotly like the orgiginal Unreal engine, just like MW's isn't anything like Quake.

BF:BC had nice vista's but MW2 visuals were way better and ran at a better FPS. The only aspect that was actually better than MW's were the explosions, but I'd take MW2's visuals + 60FPS any day.

Only haters dislike the COD engine, all the fans love it, it is by far the best and most efficient engine on Consoles by far (have to wait and see BF3's engine on consoles)

Remeber Hardware hasn't changed since COD4, where are they suppose to get the extra CPU and memory from? It's impossible, the MW engine is squeezing every ounce out of the XBOX, it canny go no further anyway, you'll have to wait for next next gen.

[tunytung]

If you beat the cod franchise, make a game that run at 60FPS.
BF3 looking good but it will NEVER 10+ mil title with jaggy 30FPS.
I bet

[SuperSaiyan4]

Well they haven't shown any ingame footage so there is nothing to go by. Looks like Activision are just hoping all the COD sheep buy it cos its MW3 so look forward to more rip off maps I mean seriously 1200msp for a few maps?? EA at least for 800msp give you maps, weapons and new acheivemants!

I want to see ingame footage and it better have destructable environments.

The only con here is that EA servers are well known to be complete shite so its a no win here.

[JMyers]

For this series "A lot more cool stuff" means a lot more glitches and broken gameplay to exploit.

[llMurcielagoll]

Well I guess I am really excited for the MW3 engine that will bring us more cool stuff! Same cool stuff since CoD 4: Modern Warfare.

[totallysane]

'A Lot Of Cool Stuff'
yeah like more lagging and glitching than you could ever ask for

[Der_Kommandant]

A lot of cool bugs

[maxmill]

yea more shitty animations and sub hd with bloom effect

whoopy doo

[unicron7]

Battlefield 3 like destruction on a 5 year old Quake engine? I call bullshit.

[belal]

Only time will tell, i mean, they can't hide the game from us, the game will speak for itself.

[ATiElite]

Hello gamers I'm Bobby Kotick CEO of Activision/Blizzard and your best friend. I know all you idiots oops gamers are gearing up to spend another $60 on what equates to more MW1 DLC that I just can't stop smiling and buying Ferrari's like fat kids buy candy.

So to further rip you clowns off oops I mean give gamers a New experience we at Activision have decided to use the original game engine from COD1 2003 for MW3 thus saving us even more money on development cost. Plus we even added destructibility by including an aluminum can with every disc. So when you shoot a building just crumble the can to make instant destructibility sounds. Game play so real your hands are guaranteed to bleed. Now i know your all excited about this New experience so what I have decided to do is for a limited time (the entire lifetime of the game) is charge a special price of $65.99 for MW3.

Now isn't that awesome? I know I'm excited (says this while viewing leather seats for custom private jet). Now you already know what your gonna get with MW3, the same COD quality you have come to love over the years and by using the 2003 engine we are gonna give you so much more of the same but even faster as this will allow us to produce 2 COD titles a year.

Just think instead of wasting $15 on 4 maps you can now spend $65.99 for a whole game with a 3 hour Sp and 6 MP maps. isn't that great? I know i know I love you Morons oops I mean Gamers too. Anyway start asking mom and dad for extra allowance or do those extra chores cause MW3 is coming and you do not want to be the only kid on your block not up to date on all the new racial slurs that will be revealed during MW3 online play.

Now I'm on my way to the Bugatti Dealership but before I go I just wanna say.....If you got $60 bucks we got a Call of Duty title just for you.

Thanks again, your digital pimp
Bobby Kotick.

[Hollowmancr]

I'd say that even though IW is as lazy as hell, the current graphics for CoD games more than do their purpose, they are HD (almost) and look nice in motion.

Of course it pales very much compared to C2, KZ3 or BF3 but I guess it does its part.

What isn't acceptable though is delivering rehashed gameplay and cliched stories in these games, also bad multiplayer is a huge downer for this series.

I'd love to get the new MW3 if they put dedicated servers, a solid ending to the trilogy and polish it as a true next-gen title. other than that I guess I'll be saving my money for BF3.

[outwar6010]

you mean the same engine you've used since modernwarfare 1 released in 2007?????????????? that engine ??? really?????????

[GodSquad]

Sometimes those schmucks in charge of something, say the stupidest shit. What cool things? More scripted events!? Can't friggin wait, It's going to blow my mind to see some skyscraper crumble. BF3 has nice destruction, and i know i caused it if some building crumbles. If only they knew what rage those comments caused. But, then again, it might only be on this site. The sheep that continously buy this game are not on any gaming sites, so they cannot feel the "enlightenment".

[SuperBeast811]

yes all the BIG bosses left IW but ask yourself a question how much "work" does YOUR boss actually do even though they get all the credit?All of the workers who REALLY made the game are still at IW you know what i mean?

[yogaflame]

I don't care about sales. But BF3 will look better , sound better and play better

[MARKUS_MAX1MUS]

Same Engine

Same Game

Same Guns

NEW lick of paint

Thats all your game will be activision, maybe you will add a new gimmick in somewhere but ultimetely it will be the same.

[artdafoo]

Well I know someone who works for Infinity Ward and was told in the outmost confidence and secrecy that the new updated engine will be getting a couple of "major upgrades " this time around like:

1. 2 more red exploding barrels ( which brings up the total to a whopping 4 ! )
2. MP maps 6 times as big as you average 2 car garage (MW2 maps where 3-4 times as big as your average 2 car garage. )
3. Destruction in MP but limited to ( windows, stationary vehicles, barrels, gas tanks and maybe, just maybe doors ! )
4. More interaction with maps in MP, more zip lines and elevators.
5. The addition of vehicles in MP ( ok, only 2 tanks and they will only be on 2 maps. )

Take that COD haters !

[gcolley]

it would only be because they are forced to evolve. they haven't bothered until now. too late for me, i have moved on

[Tommykrem]

I really liked the cast of CoD4, and I want to see how the cast of CoD4 are going to do in MW3. For some reason, both Price and Soap were a lot less likeable in MW2 so I think I'll stay clear off this one. Unfortunate that Activision has turned this franchise into the enemy of meaningful games, beacuse CoD4, and also at times MW2, were really something special.

[nix]

the engine will fool the same 15 million gamers. that's the cool stuff about it.

[mll09]

The funny thing is, most people who buy this game get it for the gameplay and don't care about the engine.

You people are dumb.

[ndl1531]

they can keep their call of dudu crap. same old tired a$$ engine and to all saying "teh callz of duduz haz teh bestest enjun evar" dont be idiots people any fool can see that they are milking this cow to the bone . oh and call of dudu doesn't have any destructible environments . everything and i repeat EVERYTHING in bfbc2 is destructible therefore the 30 fps okay people like i said dont be idiots

[Treyb3yond]

Battlefield 3 is going to give cod a boot up the arse.

[tigertron]

I wonder what the new features will be? enhanced lag perhaps? even worse hit detection?

Its just ashame this game will sell like hotcakes. Kottick could sell a shiny turd and slap the MW3 label on it and it would sell out.

[sak500]

Can't wait to play as a navy seal and taking out osama and dumping his pathetic existence in arabian gulf mission...

To be honest, i just stopped playing BOps after reaching 15th prestige and started crysis2. Even with amazing gfx and atmosphere of Cry2, i still miss the fast pace, 60fps gameplay of BO. Cry2 is pretty hard with stupid invisible and armour and other config really debalancing the game. Not to mention jerky 30 and below fps gameplay.

I'll look fwd to BF3 and MW3 as i will be def getting both.

[subtenko]

This game needs to go away. And you CallofSheeple need to stop buying into it. "oh this is the last one im getting...no, now this one is, now this one. Ok this one for real, but after the next one!

I guess I can understand if your on xbox360 but Id be playing gears mostly in terms of a shooter.

[zackacloud]

A lot of cool stuff ?????

Why I feel they are talking to kids ??

I didn't here any developers say cool about there games until now.

Because cool it mean normal but good look.

We want amazing performance games not games have a cool stuff.

Fps or not we want a real games have deep story with entertainment battle system