Image: First case of Xbox 360 65nm CPU / GPU (Falcon) RROD

It didn't take long, but the first reports of the new 65nm CPU / GPU (code named Falcon) overheating has just surfaced. Seen on the picture is a limited edition Xbox 360 Halo 3 edition. This system incorporates the rumored 65nm chipset.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

if I remember correct not every Halo 3 360 is 65nm, only the ones with different heatsink(lot 734 I think, without heatpipe)

[edit]some of the guys in the forum are making the same observation

[Mu5afir]

No, from what I understand all of the Halo 3 limited Edition consoles have the 65nm chipset. And some of the Elite / Pro systems have them, you might be confusing the two.

Also the poster confirms that it is a 360 with the Falcon chipset.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

of course I am not sure, but according to xbox forums, I remember some people being glad at first they got the Halo 3 console only to come back and say they have the heatpipe and a different lot #

[felman87]

Why would some halo systems have them and not others? The only logical explanation would be if they were manufactured in different locations.

[jackfatal]

how many people in here bought the x360 more than once? so totally how much money u spent on just the console?

[ThaGeNeCySt]

I bought 1 system on launch day, and still works 2day

[marinelife9]

Damn you Microsoft! I want to feel confident in knowing I can by your product and not have problems later. I want to play the games I just don't want to have to deal with the headache that comes with them. I guess you can't always get what you want.

[stunt213]

lmao microsoft seriously cant make a hardware without that work smoothly

[SlappyMcTaint]

I can't stop LOLing, this is the funniest sh!t I've read all week!!! Holy sh1t, you xbots thought the 65nm processors were gonna be the glorious end all of the RROD problems!! LOL, gullible lemmings. M$ is giving it to you right up the pooper, and your all drinking the RROD koo-aid.

[AznSniper]

Does that mean we have to wait for 45nm CPUs to come out?

[cheatmaster28]

No it means MS doesnt give a flying crap about making a system that works.

[hfaze]

That I primarily do my gaming on my PS3, and have the 360 and Wii for their (good) exclusives only...

Microsoft is taking a beating in the hardware department... This is their first custom hardware architecture, and it is plagued with issues.

Microsoft is going to have to do their homework on their next XBox and make sure things like this don't happen again...

[SuperSaiyan4]

The GPU is what is overheating not the CPU, also there is no official confirmation that these even have the new 65nm CPU!! You have to take off the heatsink and try and look at the CPU to know for sure.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

well according xbox forums the ones without heatpipe consume significantly less electricity that seems to confirm 65nm CPU

[Pika-pie]

Jeeez, will MS ever get this s**t sorted. Seriously, I mean come on!

Im going to wait at least another 6 months before thinking about a purchase.

[Odion]

wow this is weak, a picture is not proof, and until we can actually prove that every Halo Console has the chipset A FREAKING PICTURE MEANS NOTHING

[Sovannah Phum]

this picture is worth a lot more to me than your reasoning ability.

[Trick Nolte]

This is EXACTLY why MS is able to get away with pumpimg out BS hardware. It never ceases to amaze me how much and how often people who own 360's make RROD some kind if made up conspiracy theory.

If your a 360 fan be a 360 fan. Take the good with the bad but at the same time stop acting like your fellow 360ers arent going through it with their consoles bricking. Its akmost a slap in the face to them because while your over here talking about whats made up, some dudes pissed bcuz his system has failed.

My cousin, who's also my room mate is on his 3rd 360 and his brother is on his 3rd. In all fairness, this dudes core bricked, and it was repaired/or refurb but he also got the elite in addition to having the core.

Seriously though, people are acting brain washed over this RROD and it makes it easier for MS to give their fanbase the loooooooooooooooong shaft because instead of contesting this sh!t, you guys are saying its ok is my systems bricks and even worse you guys wont even acknowledge or believe thats your fellow a-alikes 360's are bricking.

My cousin is a Xbox360 Fanatic but this dude, as well as my other cousin are quick to admit that MS hardware is waaaay to faulty.

If you guys are man enough to brag about how Halo3 owns(It Does) and how many great games there are for 360(there are), be man enough to face the cons. RROD does exist so stop sh!tting on your fellow 360'by failing to acknowledge what they very well go through.

Of course not every 360 has bricked, no one said 100% of all 360's brick but just because it didnt happen to you that doesnt mean it hasnt happen to the next man. It has and i have seen numerous cases with own eyes and have nothing to gain from lying or makin up things as I like ALL 3 console. Peace

[the worst]

paying off 2 many developers
magazines
just spent the money
on the hardware
lol

[green_ghost5]

Microsoft is not a joke, yes they should have done more homework when designing this system, but hey they are still making money aren't they.

What type of computer are you using anyway? and what is your OS?

[cr33ping_death]

MS's gaming division hasnt turned a profit yet....... if anything they have been losing money with the whole red ring of death fiasco.

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

yo he is lying this pic was taken by someone that post on GT forums and doesnt work at bestbuy. he is making the story up

Edit:he just updated it and took the story about about where he got it from.

i know this site can be biased at times but this guy is flat out lying

[Mu5afir]

People make errors, I did some more research and corrected my post. Thanks for the help in informing me of the mistakes. They were corrected, and everything should be good now.

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

make errors you made up an entire story.wow i cant believe this site. you lied and when i said that you lie you took it out.

[Mu5afir]

Why do you have a hard on? I don't need to waste my time reporting fake stories, and I fixed the mistakes I made. Is there anything else wrong with the story? If not, why are you still craming about it?

@Blazin are you anal? Did you not read the part about me making a mistake?

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

becuase you lied you made up the story to try and get it approved. and when i called you out on it you took it out.

[Lex Luthor]

Elites dont have 65nm, and only a small number of halo 360s have them.
So nice try with the flamebait but i'm afraid you've failed.

[krackchap]

even 65nm's get RRoD -BELIEVE
thank god for the 3 year warranty

[SofaKingReetodded]

the box is officially DONE.

[green_ghost5]

Your name suits you very well, I guess you must have missed the part where they just said the story is fake. That's ok because you are sofakingreetodded. Right?

[The Karate Kid]

$399.99 PS3 will solve all problems.

"THERE IS LIFE AFTER HALO 3"

BELIEVE X-MAS *07*

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

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[cheatmaster28]

Exactly. COme publisher dont lie! that story is true! thee is a freaking image!

[Snukadaman]

jeez the length people go too discredit consoles.....you would also see the red tinge around the area...but no light even emits off the ring...another red flag is the person that posted that is missing now from the site. its only obvious now that the person joined too spead false info...way too go ng4g too fall for another fake posting.

you people who disagree care too explain why you disagree or will you just be the mindless sheep who always disagrees with people anonymously

http://farm1.static.flickr....
here is a pic i found of a rrod. is there a difference? look at the bottom of the pic i posted...theres a red afterglow. theres no afterglow on the other pic...

[wil4hire]

Notice that the glow is reflecting off of the back material surrounding the power button.

If someone faked that photo, they need a job in visual effects. There is no distorted pixels or anything. Take the image into photoshop, and grade the hell out of the image. When you have a chopped image, there is usually different odd compression/pixels around the element that was just chopped in and not blended correctly. EVEN then, if you didn't grade the original red ring image, to match the 360 halo edition image, you could still see an obvious change in value.

I work in Visual FX as a compositor. Image is real, or a very good chop done by someone with too much time on their hands.. (which would be most ps3 owners har har)

[Fighter]

To be fair I think we must wait a while until they open up the frame and investigate the hardware to see if those new chips are present and also to have a few more broken 65nm consoles to properly confirm the problem still exists.

I'm sure many people were considering buying a 360 next year thinking the new chips would guarantee reliability. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

[nix]

well.. pray that it isn't true!

[iMad]

RRoD appears not only if case 360 died! IT appears sometime and you need just to reboot the console.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Check Pic

[GoLeafsGo]

I was looking forward to buying a 360 this christmas.

>_<! Halo 3, Gears (2?), and PGR4 will have to wait even longer now.
dskl2309jaskl!

[green_ghost5]

No you won't, don't be so quick to rule it out, this story is most likely fake. You may be able to enjoy your 360 very soon.

[heavyarms]

RROD doesnt mean that the system is dead, just reboot and works in most cases.

[iMad]

for example a power supply problem when i plug/unglug power wire when console turned on. that is very easy to make thouse screenshoots.

[nirwanda]

red rings nooo just rebooted and everything was fine and it's a uk launch console thats used everyday no probs what so ever

[pilotpistolpete]

I'm no xbox savvy, but would that be 4 rings?

[MikeGdaGod]

what you guys are talking about is 4 rings. 3 rings = dead xbox

[HBK]

This doesn't prove anything, where is the article?

[Douchebaggery]

i don't know or care if it has the new chip or whatever, the fact is that a x360 manufactured in august of this year according to the picture got the RRoD which is unacceptable in my book as a x360 owner who had one system died already.

[Genki]

....really. I've been waiting long and hard for this...hopefully it's either BS or a fluke.

[Zhuk]

all devices will have hardware failures, why is anyone surprised that one of them broke down. The 'falcon' 360 would only drastically reduce failure rates, not eliminate them 100%.

The fact that it broke down so quickly obviously means that it was just a faulty console from manufacturing more than anything, not a systemic issue with the console

[Genki]

but I hope the mobo was reworked to better accomodate the components. From what I understand, it's a tight fit in some places, and in others things shouldn't be where they are.

It's been by design, and I thought the Falcon was more than just a smaller fabrication process...let's hope I'm right.

[RBlaze]

Ok, lets say that this is true, so some of the new build 360's have the hardware failure problem. Its upsetting i know (as i have had it before) but you cant say MS has turned it's back on it's gamers can you? They know RRoD is a problem, and im sure they are trying to fix it. But to aid the people who suffer from it, they have given us all a 3 year warranty to cover it. Thats a long, long time. they are trying to respond to this problem as well as they can. And Sony fans, leave flaming me to one side. When my friend had problems with his PS2, Sony did NOTHING to help. No replacement, No repair, Nothing. He had to buy a new console! All 360 owners are still covered for atleast another year! So be angry at MS for giving us a console with a large breakdown rate, but dont deny that they have tried to make it better for us.

[mighty_douche]

lol they are selling defective products to people like you and me and you say give them a break? if im spending £250 on something i WANT IT TO WORK! dont you?

M$ stated that this would cure the RROD which it obviously hasnt and yet people still stand beside them with their "yeah buts...."

M$ are taking people for fools and well if you cant see that then more fool you.

edit: lol RBlaze you idiot, if it was any other product consumers would be up in arms but for some reason, consoles have now become a law of their own because people are loyal to them, for some reason. i dont care if they extend warrenty or whatever, the PROBLEM SHOULDNT BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!! and product of that value and from a company as large as M$ should be tested over and over and then re-tested. M$ claimed that this would cure the issue and people have even waited for this model purely because of the PR crap that M$ kick out and now we find out it was just more lies and you still except it. its fine if your happy with this, i personally wouldnt be, i want what a pay for, and i want it to work!

edit 2: mate the extended the warrenty because it was either that or do a complete re-call which would of made M$ loo stupid, well more stupid than they currently are. i love you guys, i say something about M$ and you seem to take it as a direct insult at you, its sooo funny, you'd think that you are a part sharer in M$ or something. regardless of what product it is or wether i have a competitors model or not, its a complete joke to release a product of this quality and have faults with around 30% of them, THEN tell people a new model is coming which wont have the same issues and waht happens a week after release and its RROD, but yet you still try and defened them to the death. i as a consumer want the produce to do what the produce claims, i think its a disgrace that after all these problems M$ didnt even bother to test the new FALCON chip sets properly.

remember, my insults are aimed at M$, not you, or your mum or your sister, get over it and try looking at the bigger picture rather than defending something purely because you own one, i bought a Sega Saturn but i can still admit its problems. no one will care about the 360 in 5 years including you so try and remember that its just a piece of hardware and not you GIRLFRIEND!!

[RBlaze]

All i have said is that they have tried to support the people with defective consoles and can you deny that? Why else do you think they raised the warranty to 3 years?

I also said that people should be angry at MS for giving them a console that breaks down, because it shouldn't. But they replace all consoles that do, so they are trying to help.

So before you start throwning round insults, learn to read and understand what people say. Really man, your ginin us UK's a bad name x

EDIT: Mighty_douche, Do you not understand what i wrote? I said you should be unhappy if your console doesn't work. But MS has added a warranty to try to help people with problems. I'll dumb it down to a level that you might understand, give you a real world example ok? Lets say you go to a private doctor to sew up your crack from too much PS3 love. Then you get back home, and you just can't resist another minute of fun, and that little hole bursts again. Would you say the doctor would be more helpful if he said he's fix it again, free of charge, or if he simply told you to buy a new one? You see where im coming from now?

Don't bother tryig to be clever with your responses susan, just stick to your PS3 news. You aren't really bothered about the Xbox fans, you just wanna give us all a bad morning

EDIT 2 : Last time i checked, 'RBlaze you idiot' and 'fool you' are both insults directly at me, hence the reply. Again i must say please read what i wrote - i said the 360 has problems and you should be angry at MS. I also said that the extended warranty was to help people - which it is. Obviously it would be better if problems didn't occur, but since the origional 360 batches, RROD have decreased, and some new consoles are bound to get RRODs. My origional argument still stands that MS is replacing faulty xboxs.

[tatical]

Ever since the 360 launch there has been issues. They denied any problems since the launch, then a few month later they extended the warranty from 90 days to 1 year (still denying the 360 has problems). Then earlier this year they finally admitted the 360 has a design flaw and claim those problems have been addressed and extended the warranty AGAIN to 3 years (only after some really bad press about the RRoD).

I got my 360 December '05 and it still works... barely. I get numerous graphical errors (scrambled up, pixelated, funky colors, the works) and sometimes the video just goes completely black. Microsoft won't fix it because the 3 year warranty is 'only for the RRoD', I have to pay for everything else.

The 360 has great games, but the Xbox 360 console is a piece of crap. The last game I got was Forza 2, but I can't even play it most of the time due to the errors. I play my PS3 more often now, it'll be my primary system for now on.

I see no reason to give them a 'break'. They lied until they couldn't lie any more.

[green_ghost5]

@ 24.1 You really, really need to learn how to spell. We do not know for sure if this is a "falcon" or not. STFU and go back to kindergarten, and tell them you need to start over.

[pilotpistolpete]

Spot on. MS has tuned into a greedy corporation (as well as Sony, so don't start the sonyfanboy rant on me). Windows OS are starting to fall apart, IE is a joke. And instead of working to perfect their original products, they invest into new areas just to try to monopolize as much as they can. Oh no, Apple has Ipod, answer Zunes!, Sony and NIntendo have gaming consoles? Quick, the xbox!

Zunes is pretty much dead, although it was never really alive. Xbox will go down in history as the console that simply turned its back on its consumers, and the 360 will always be remembered for Halo 3 and the wost failure rate of any gaming console to date.

BUt the worst is that you people still blindly follow MS. 360 is 2 years old, yet it still breaks down, just like a launch. You think an extended warrenty was a nice gesture haha, you tools. It might of cost them 1B$, but it would of been awhole lot higher if they did the right thing, either a complete recall, or replacement.

You guys love you 360 so much, yet you probably are afraid to turn it on everytime you want to game. And somehow thats ok?

I'm a sonyfan (I own ps2 and ps3, so I guess that makes me a fan), but if the ps3 has such a large failure rate, I would stick it to Sony. Brand loyalty doesn't get you anywhere. Realise that MS will try to squeeze as much cash as they can out of you, and when you just take their sh*t, MS laughs all the way to the bank.

[mighty_douche]

thank you mate, some one with the foresight to look at something regardless of what they own. im throwing ya a bubble!!

[nanometric]

#1 Flamesuit (check)
#2 Food supply (check)
#3 Anti-fanboy bunker (check)
#4 Door shut timer set to a month (check)
#5 Toilet (not checked)

S**T!!!

[Saint Sony]

LOL, sorry to burst your bubble, but that thing ain't Falcon.

[celticlonewolf]

Where is the proof that its overheating? The rrod death as its called as many people have pointed out can come from many diffrent errors infact I can make one apear right now by having the power cord not connect propaly(my cat pulled at it one time thats how I know that one lol) also if you do not have it connected to your tv propaly it alos apears. I have a feeling that someone got bored oneday and posted these pics just for kicks cause he/she would know that type of reaction he would get from sites like this. Of subject does anyone know when the connan demo is coming(360) and the ratchet and clank demo? Thanks Good gaming

[mandrake]

Personally, I find the picture dubious. It's an attachment to a post on a forum, and it was that poster's first post, so it would seem that he signed up just so he could put that picture up. But regardless of whether the picture is real or phony, the fact that people are ready to believe the claim so easily speaks to how low public confidence in the 360's quality control has sunk. It will take months, if not years of trouble-free operation for MS to repair the damage that has been done by the initial batch of defective consoles.

[SlippyMadFrog]

"the fact that people are ready to believe the claim so easily speaks to how low public confidence in the 360's quality control has sunk"

You should not take N4G as the "public" since 80% of the people on here are raging fanboys who will use anything, true or false, to discredit a rival console. Also, 0.000001% of gamers world wide have read this thread so I would not make any conclusions about the public regarding this thread. I would go as far as to say that N4G is absolutely insignificant regarding anyhting about public perceptions of gaming since:
1. Its a site with user-controled content
2. 80% of users are fanboys
3. fanboys have shady propagandas

So sorry fanboys, all the blood, sweat and tears thats going in to the spreading of hate for your rival consoles on N4G are going by without anybody noticing.

[-CaT-]

I wonder how accurate this pic is.. Having your console on a carpet is always a big no no.. I'll wait for more reports myself..

Would make a hell of a story though if true...

[mighty_douche]

its not M$ fault for making a defective console, its ours for putting it on carpet..... pfft...

[SmokeyMcBear]

this excuse always gets me.. you have to have special provisions for the 360 to work functionally. Call me crazy, but every single other console that I have had, the NES, Genesis, PS1, PS2,now PS3 I could put wherever the hell I wanted it, and it would still work and not break.. but I guess the 360 is special

[Ludwig]

Photos of consoles doing 3rl where NEVER reliable .. since you can cause it by enclosing the console (even the PS3 turns into a jet-engine this way.) ..

The only reliable news that should be ALLOWED to post would be official reports from stores, microsoft himself or at least a half-reliable website citing a personal case .. (Like IGN/Kotaku etc about their test machines.)

[nanometric]

M$??? lol thats funny, you do know that it's the same company which still states that 360's failure rate is 3% lol

[mesh1]

its know sony ppl are buying xbox 360 and opening then and losing the cpu which is quite easy to do and making the rrod appear its a sony ploy how come out of myhy 650 friends none has ever had the read ring of death maybe its cause i live in the uk aye ? its easy to induce the rrod

[mighty_douche]

there isnt a single problem with the xbox, never was, its just all down to sony fanboys.... course...

[pilotpistolpete]

Hahaha! sure...sure

[Fighter]

Someone compared this problem to the PS2's early problems but this is far worse. The Xbox 360 is more superior than the PS2 when it comes to the technology so this is totally unacceptable from a rich company like MS to have faulty hardware that is priced over $300 for most of its life cycle thus far.

Sure they accept the blame but they shouldn't be in this situation in the first place. Makes them look really lame.

[Bathyj]

Well thats it then.

If this is true then that should honestly be game over for X360, the most unreliable device every released in my memory. There should be a full recall and forced testing by however governs standards of quality in the US before they can sell another single console.

Why am I so harsh?
Because I actually had hope for the Falcon. After all this crap I was gonna give them the benifit of the doubt and believe they would have it fixed. I've NEVER told anyone not to get an Xbox. I did say a couple time I would wait for Falcon Hardware and you would be safe. I guess not.

What pisses me off so much is the general public is still so FKN clueless and M$ will probably just get away with this because only games media ever reports it. I'm not talking about you Xboxs who would still defend M$ if Bill Gate broke into your home and stole your sister. You guys are a small group of people easy to ignore. I'm talking about the general public who know little to nothing about this debacle.

While in line to get Halo3 one week ago today I heard to guys talking behind me.
"I'm buying Halo but I dont even have an Xbox at the moment. Its broken" Guy A said.
"Let me guess" said Guy B, " Red ring of death?"
"What?"
"Did it have 3 red lights?"
"Yeah, how'd you know that?"
"Dude, dont you read the internet? 25% to 33% depending on what you beleive of ALL Xbox360 get it and since they were all build exactly the same way they probably all will eventually."

Guy A looked so shocked. "That sucks, no wonder this is my 3rd one I'm waiting to get back."

This is where I had to join in.

"Ha, 3rd, same as me". I felt like we should have a secret handshake.

Well fukit he says. If this one breaks I'm not getting another one.

You should wait til the Falcon comes out I says. Has he didnt know what that was I explained they add finally given the design an overhaul and I was pretty confident it would fix the problems. Now I'm pretty confident the problems are beyond M$ and even they with their infinite resources cant make this machine reliable fore some reason that escapes me.

This is a long rant considering we dont even know if its true or not and maybe I'm just expecting the worst, but lately whenever something stupid like this has popped up about M$ its turned out to be true. If it is true the whole world deserves to know and M$'s stock deserves to plumment. Its just bullsh*t that the riches company in the world should keep getting away with this.

But hey, if it turns out to be false I still live in hope Falcon might be a competent machine that lasts 5 years.

[Sovannah Phum]

sad thing is I think casual gamers would put up with this crap like how they'd have to service their cars or something of the sort because they don't know any better. this is how bestbuy sells their performance contracts to random idiots when the manufacturer's warranty should cover the product for a good duration already.

[leon76]

New stuff, same sh*t!!!!!!!!

[djt23]

xbox 360 is fin
too bad

[SL1M DADDY]

The hardware is complete crap. I wish they would figure this out and get us a console that stays working for more than a year or less. Being on my fourth console I think I have a right to complain...

[IRONMAN_357X]

how can you believe when your smacking the crap out of a grunt then your 360 dies, and no, rebooting DOESNT work. My friend had a lagbox and we were playin FEAR, and his lagbox randomly got rrod, the cable was in, and we TRIED to reboot it. It was dead

JUST GET A PS3 for real gaming ppl

[Dogswithguns]

Im sure sick and tired of seeing and hearing about the RRoD thu the years of 360s. when is it gonna stop... I'd say, somebody needs to slap on Bill Gate in the face to wake him up, this isnt a joke of doing business.

[HateBoy]

The article is fabricated. Read Mu5afirs comments responding to Blazinprophet (comment nr 7). There, discussion and flaming over.

[mesh1]

THIS ARTICALE IS FAKE READ THE COMMENTS BUY THE POSTER HE GET CAUGHTout buy blazing prophet and even tho he says he changed it he stil has not hahah and even tho he ahs admited to takeing it ppl on this thread keep and saying its true haha PPL that buy console jugde for ur self if u want to play with ps3 fans making up storys as MU5AFIR did with tjhis post read comment 7 just scrolll up and when eve ru see any post made about 360 on this site just laugh as i own 1 and its amazing

[N4GayFanturds]

"This article is fake"!!!! But what's really bad about this, is that this is NOT an ARTICLE - let alone NEWS.

Change this site from n4g.com to theDUMP.com

[gnothe1]

that was a new 360 did anyone notice the little plastic tape still covering the remote sensor bar!! something is fishy here!!

[Kill Crow]

A - Confirm if ALL halo 3 xbox 360's are 65nm
B - if not ALL, can anyone confirm from these pictures IF this console is 65nm

... until then it's not proof ... however it is still unsettling that even at this stage the RROD is affecting consoles seeing as the Halo 3 edition is new ?

It does look like a flame post especially the earlier disucssion between Blazinprophet and Mu5afirs - it sure as hell isn't news ....

[Shadow Flare]

definitive proof that Microsoft doesn't give a crap about its fans. First they abandon their xbox fanbase, now they can't be bothered to fix the 360 properly...either that or they're so lame they just don't do anything right. How many millions of dollars has microsoft lost on xbox and xbox 360? It must be near $30 million. They have not made a single penny of profit. That is the crappest form of business possible...and yes, it will effect you the gamers. Microsoft don't know how to run their gaming business properly. And sony's about to show you how its done this christmas when they launch the 40gb ps3

[SlippyMadFrog]

Didn't you read above that its a FAKE story?

"either that or they're so lame they just don't do anything right."

Well, I would consider outselling the PS3 world-wide as "something right", don't you? Regardless of which console you like, the Xbox360, sales wise, is not doing to bad and you got to give props where it is deserved.
As soon as a fanboy smells some good ol' amunition to use, all common sense go out the window.

[BIadestarX]

wow.. it took longer than that I though... What stops a real Sony fanboy with Some money to waste and more time than they should to cause a RROD? All they have to to is open the box.. detach the GPU and walla!!!!!! RROD!
comments like "MS is is raping you xbots " start... and you have a bunch of happy Sony fanboys telling people, "buy a PS3 instead"... come on people... you actually didn't think this was going to happen?... all it takes is 1 Sony fanboy to make it happen out of the millions out there.
My @$$ that I am going to believe what these Sony fan girls post here... when I personally start experiencing RROD on any of my xbox 360 than I believe it.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

it makes me wanta start PUNCHING people.

my 360 broke twice in less than a year. i wasted SO much $$$ on that piece of Sh!t, about $1500.

phuck you and anyone else who can`t admit these things BREAK.

[Vip3r]

That's right bladestar, the whole RROD thing is all just a big conspiricy by "Sony fanboys". It's not as if Microsoft has anything to do with it, no, it's the Sony fans.

/sarcasm

[The Wood]

new chips = no chance in h*ll of the rrod. bstar you are a disservice to the true 360 gamers who have actually had problems (new and old) anybody would think ms is your client for the pr company you work for or something. ms are making the efforts to fix these issues but that doesn't mean they will be able to fix everything in 1 swoop. the people who will undoubtable have issues with the newer chips will need your support not you accusations and spin like you were doing before ms admitted there was an issue. you have to understand that you are one of the lucky ones but that doesn't mean you should bury your head in the sand just because some 'sony fanboys' give ya stick or an article you dont agree with comes up.

[MikeGdaGod]

you actually think someone is going to waste their time opening up a new 360 just to make MS's hardware look bad?!?!?!?!

it doesn't take that much effort

[SmokeyMcBear]

wow blade.. they really got you by the balls huh.. you need help man, seriously

[WilliamRLBaker]

""OH I REALLY CALL Fake now, I've read the entire thread post that he links too and the first and 2nd and 3rd pages dont mention 65nm at all, The original source is about an halo 3 xbox 360 failing, Mu5afir a sonyfanboy put the rest of the spin about 65nm process...ect up him self.""

[WilliamRLBaker]

the halo 3 360 thats rumored to contain the RUMORED 65nm cpu and gpu.
I call fake:)

OH I REALLY CALL Fake now, I've read the entire thread post that he links too and the first and 2nd and 3rd pages dont mention 65nm at all, The original source is about an halo 3 xbox 360 failing, Mu5afir a sonyfanboy put the rest of the spin about 65nm process...ect up him self.

[wallace1000]

Get the damn thing off the carpet!!

[360Jamaican40GigFL]

ok this is unacceptable

[Syko]

"According to various reports and photo evidence over on the Xbox.com forums, new Halo 3 Xbox 360 consoles with lot numbers #734 have been confirmed to have the newly new 65nm CPUs in them."

Source: http://www.xbox360fanboy.co...

There is no proof that this is the 65nm chipset in the photos. Seems fishy that they cut off the number that would indicate it is a 65nm chipset.This is nothing more than a sad BS attempt to discredit that the 65nm has solved the problem, That has already been solved in the 90nm chipset. Only some of the older consoles still floating around for sale without the second heatsink and the epoxy fix on the chips are still highly vulnerable to the RRoD.

[PimpHandHappy]

hey did i see 360ppl say this problem is false? I want a stress test and i want it b4 the new year!

if this problems keeps happening i might not ever get a 360...

~~Rubbing chin~~
Mass Effect looks cool thou

[PimpHandHappy]

yea dumbaZZ!

Get that thing off the carpet you fool!

[teto83]

just buy a ps3!!!!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

That is all you need to know about this. Bogus article submitted by some extremist fanboy.

[agent864]

65nm CPU's are possibly in units mfg after 8-25-2007. this one has a 8-16-2007 mfg date. There is no confirmed 65nm GPU.

Its hard to say that with the hardware changes the MS has made since April 2007 that the 360 is still RROD prone, tho i guess some of the early Elites had problems, anecdotally. Don't know why someone would intentionally break their $400 360 just to rile people up, so this is either faked, desperate, or real.

A lot of people on the xbox boards say the halo 3 360s generally run much quieter and cooler.

[Mu5afir]

In 9 days, Microsoft decided to implement a different chipset? Stop being a fanboy, there is a very high chance that the Halo 3 edition does have the 65nm chipset.. and the likelihood increases as the manufacture dates are only NINE DAYS apart form a confirmed 65nm chipset.

[Kill Crow]

... it isn't a real article ?
... it isn't anything to do with Falcon chipset failing?

What is it?

seriously?

[MikeGdaGod]

this is bad if it's true

[SmokeyMcBear]

jesus christ, this edition has been out less than a month, cmon man

[etownone]

so this article/pic is fake, right?

so freakin post the update and say its fake.
I agree with Blade...i wouldn't be surprised if a sony fanboy set this up. how can that assuption surprise anyone? just like there are xbots out there that go above and beyond to discredit ps3, the same goes for sony fanboys.

either way....instead of adding extra games into the system, they should have had a bigger price drop, because if they dont push enough 360 this season....i'm starting to believe in the PS3...ONLY because they might be coming out with the $399 sku. (a next gen gaming/movie player for under $400?.....very tempting)

[Salvadore]

Thanks for your memories MS, but I am buying a PS3 now.

[chavafx]

i know how to do the tree red rings of death but is not dead is just temporarly just unplug the power and plugget in really fast and you will have the dead ring color but is just in till you reset it so dont belive thise morrans

[tomfoolery]

and you know it.
So jealous of the 360s success, you'll sit there in your little chairs
typing this crap over a bullsh1t story contributed by a sissy Sonyboy
MU5ifer or whatever his name is.
I laugh at the whole bunch of you losers.
The story has ZERO creditability just like you sacks of sh1t.

Enjoy losing this gen..........your FUD won't save your lame @sses.

Your friendly neighborhood
Tom Cat.

[sniddles]

THIS IS FAKE!!!!! IT MAY BE REAL RED RINGS (or may not be as you can fake it, people were doing this back when the elite came out, anyone remember???, people faking rod's, i'm sure elites have failed to, but that's not the point)

BUT

THIS IS NOT A FALCON, look at the manufacturing date, 8-16-07. Falcon was introdced on models made AFTER 8/27, THIS IS A ZEPHYR BOARD USING 90nm.

this is a farce story and it shouldn't even be posted... END OF STORY,

[tomfoolery]

sniddles.
Well said.

[firefly00]

Microsoft Delivers!!!!! "Garbage" xP

[Twilightx7]

The people who post these stories are complete idiots. Even if that IS a real picture, and even if all Halo 3 360's have the 65nm chips, this picture proves absolutely nothing. I live in Florida, where during hurricane season, we have frequent power surges and outages. During one such surge, I was using my Halo 3 system, and upon the return of power to my home, I had the DREADED RROD. Oh noes! Whatever will I do? Turn off the system, and turn it back on. It must be magic, cause it worked just fine after that. The 3 red lights do NOT mean that the system has overheated - it simply indicates some problem with the hardware. I could've easily taken this picture for you before resetting my system, but I'm not some extremist fanboy who has nothing better to do than toss more fuel on the fire.

[Ahmadinejad]

Moron, dont put it on the carpet, first role of electronics that heat up, ur blocking all the air holes. MS seems to be getting blamed for peoples stupidity.

[Wii60_FTW]

M$ can't make hardware, sony can't make software. we all lose.

[Mikey_Gee]

How about for the NEXT console, MS and SONY team up and push out a BEST OF EVERYTHING BOX.

Call it the "X-Factor" or "X-Station" or whatever floats your boat.

I wonder what the fvcktards would all piss and moan about then. I guess they would be so board and lost for words they would all gather and have a mass suicide. And for the NORMAL gamers on the planet, that level of cleanup of fanboys would be a great thing IMHO

BTW, MS getting rid of the X-CLAMP in the new production models was a FANTASTIC IDEA. The X-CLAMP not securing the MB was also a HUGE factor in the RROD problems. They have now adopted the 4 screw mount method which for a long time was a WELCOME mod the fixed the issue.

[The Milkman]

Although I dont doubt this situation with this topic. You might wont to think about it for a second. You are able to give your console the 3 rings of death yourself by useing the towel trick. My Xbox has be randomly freezeing over and over. But it didnt get any red lights. So I just did the towel trick anyway. I got the red lights then I turned it off and let it cool down for awhile then turned it back on and I had green lights again. Even though that didnt help the freezeing problem any it didnt hurt the console either.

So what Im trying to say here I sure some rumor starters would love to just give there console the red lights with the towel trick then take a snap shot of it post it on the net and then let there Xbox cool down then go back to playing again. The net is full of scandals and Rumors. I would still take the chance of getting the console with the new chips.

[jcfilth]

Microsoft sucks!!
Xbox 360 sucks!!
and if you are an Xbox owner..sorry but..YOU SUCK!!!

[c1arity]

I know this is old, but I've been doing research on the different xbox 360 revisions...and stumbled upon this post. Last year sometime, around the Halo 3 launch, I bought the Halo 3 limited edition 360 and sold it because upon opening it up and doing the research THEN, I found it was not a falcon console, and thus, not did not have a 65nm CPU or the updated heatsink. It was definitely a Zephyr. From what I'm seeing, the best way to tell is to look at the power adapter to see the wattage. For instance, the falcons have 175w power adapters while the jaspers have 150w adapters. I believe the Zephyrs had the same 203w power adapter the xenon had, given the fact it still used 90nm parts.

EDIT: You can barely see that this console has a 12v rail of 16.5a, meaning it is NOT equipped with a 65nm CPU. A falcon system with a 65nm CPU and 90nm GPU has a 12v rail of 14.2a.