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Project Natal still has a multi-processor

As you know the Natal Project is the first worldwide sensor that uses a 3D video camera, a depth sensor, a microphone and a multi-processor that runs the software, all from the same apparatus. Unlike the 2-dimensional cameras, "Project Natal" 3D analysis of whole-body movements while introducing the commands, the direction of movement or even the tone of voice. It was funny to tell us that the image we've all seen the sensor will not be the final aspect of marketing , which now are still working on it, and that between now and Christmas many things can change.

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whateva5150d ago

I don't care if they take the price up higher than $50 just to keep the chip in I would rather have a better product that can work better without taking from the 360 CPU than to get a cheaper camera.

whateva5150d ago

they even have a video.

and I used Google translate that's why I linked to PSU because that's where I posted the translated article.

Bigpappy5149d ago (Edited 5149d ago )

It is the bias media at it again. This time from Spain. In a nut shell, she said she loves Natal and that it responded to her every move. She did not want to stop playing. She thought it would be like Eyetoy but was surprised at how different it is. She also thinks it is completely different from the Wii.
I agree with you guys, M$ must be paying them off, because they are all saying good things about this "Laggy Natal thing". She doesn't look like a real gamer any way (is that a good thing for Natal or bad?). Is she enjoying this POS? All she was doing was making her avatar dance (and doing it in high heels), then playing that boring hit the red ball game we saw 1 million times.
May be Sony should take the move to spain and let her play Wii fit with it. I got a strong feeling the Natal is going to have the same effect on the Wii casuals crowd. They are just going to get in front of it and act like retards, dancing and waving they hands about. At least the hard core can get Move on the PS3. Plus the PS3 has Eye Pet and LBP for the casual crowd. Way more fun that dancing and acting silly. Who wants to do all that when you get home from work.

Disclosure: I am a 360 owner who thinks Natal will be very successful this holiday season. I just wanted to put myself in the mind of a fanboy who refuses to accept what is actually happening. Natal is different and is creating its own hype. Move (not a good name) is too Wii like to create that same type of hype (especially with casuals). Move will have to "out Wii" the Wii to grab the casuals (not likely). Move should focus on grabbing the hardcore for the holidays, then work on creating new experiences for casuals (different from what wii can do).

Gue15149d ago

If so many people are saying that natal's good then maybe, just maybe (you never know with M$ and their deep pockets) all this can be true?

IdleLeeSiuLung5149d ago

If anything I would rather have the skeleton mapping done on the 360. The 360 has vastly more power and than a small proprietary chip, even 5 years after the 360 launch.

Benefits:

a) lower cost

b) possibility for flexible use of the computing power to Natal i.e. increasing processing for decrease lag. Sure it might affect the look of the game, but games start at the controls.

c) likely easier to update the software

The only one benefit to the proprietary chip is hardly worth it in my opinion.

Tachyon_Nova5149d ago

I don't know why people trust what these dodgy translation from some Spanish website has to say over what Microsoft execs have to say. Oh hang on, they actually say Natal is revolutionary and functions properly. Scrap that.

From what I've seen of Natal, the thing simply doesn't work, It's kinda a nice idea, but their implementation looks rushed and shoddy, which I guess is why its on X360 after all...

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Godmars2905149d ago

If that is indeed true, then where's the list of Natal titles that back it up? So far the only games it has are the dodge ball game and the splash paint game, which hasn't been showed since E3.

Maybe, just maybe, all the press people who otherwise normally wouldn't touch a console are being effected by the hype surrounding it. Regardless, anyone who calls themselves a gamer shouldn't be using them as an example especially when they're getting excited over a game they themselves would never bother with.

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AAACE55149d ago

I'm still not sold on this, but I think it has potential!

If they have a couple of games like the ball one, I can see alot of gamers finally getting some exercise. I just want them to show more and then I may finally get excited about it. But for now, I am still burned by how much of a letdown the Wii was for me, so I am very skeptical of the motion control thing.

I will try to keep an open mind until E3 though...

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TVippy5149d ago

LOL, It was going to cost above 50 without the chip. Now, with the chip onboard, it'll be priced around the $100 mark.

fryday5149d ago (Edited 5149d ago )

The press has already seen some new games for Natal, but they are strictly forbidden to talk about them, till MS announces them officially. If they leak information before the announcement, they will be put on a blacklist and will never be allowed to attend such an event again, including all keynotes @E3 @GDC etc

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Omega45150d ago

Guess the eyetoy must have a multiprocessor too.....oh wait

Sunny_D5150d ago (Edited 5150d ago )

Doesn't matter Sony moved on from the eyetoy, something they did 8 years ago. I guess Natal really is revolutionary.. oh wait. Also, the site is in a different language, how are we supposed to know how credible they are especially if this is the first time hearing about them? And the translated link is from a forum on PSU. Ironic, non the less.

Pedobear Rocks5149d ago

at least get the product name right EyeToy is from the PS2 era.

captain-obvious5149d ago

well no need for that since the PS3’s cell dose that, just like saying it cant do 3D and face recognition

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

so yes the EYEtoy can do MOST of what NATAL can

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whateva5149d ago (Edited 5149d ago )

Move Meets Natal! lol

kissmeimgreek5149d ago

hahahaha nice photoshopping.

OT: If i ca understand what hes saying (not a fan of all these translated articles...) It seems that he felt there was very little lag in his session when he mentions trying to break dance in front of it. Who knows how accurate that description is but maybe its true that the lag has been greatly decreased.

Oh wait forgot i was in the open zone...

*AHEM* Deh projecz gatal has deh laggines. All hail deh suprioir playztation Move.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander19721d 4h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing691d 3h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19721d 3h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto1d 3h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19721d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19721d 1h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff218323h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto22h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197219h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv721d 2h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh1d 1h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19721d 1h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow118h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv7218h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix761d 4h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1251d 3h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC1d 3h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19721d 2h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC1d 2h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia23h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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