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Final Fantasy XIII Had Lots of Deleted Content

Final Fantasy XIII art director Isamu Kamikokuryou has revealed that enough content was cut from the game to make an additional game.

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kevco335219d ago

I'm sure it probably did, but it wouldn't be a very good game. It was deleted for a reason. I'm sure most games generally do...

mjolliffe5219d ago

Some will probably be made into DLC I expect, whilst they might leave the rest for the next game (if there is one that is).

thereapersson5219d ago

Gotta love the multiplatform syndrome. When you have to cater to DVD, your only real option is the DLC road.

Sucks we have to pay more this generation than ever before because not all aspects of technology are caught up to the pace of the industry...

mjolliffe5219d ago

I suppose the only reason they thought of DLC was because of the amount of demo's being downloaded on PSN and LIVE.

I just think it's pretty disgusting that the DLC is already on some of our discs and that they charge us extra for it.

SixTwoTwo5219d ago

"The content was already running on actual PS3 hardware, it seems, but was left out due to considerations for game volume and overall game balanace"

Zedux5219d ago

this just goes to show FFXIII had to comprise it's originality and capabilities otherwise we would had seen over 10 dvds for the 360. Shame on SE this makes me despise their whoring even more!

reintype5219d ago

There's a reason why FFXIII is so streamlined and devoid of normal JRPG conventions.

The Killer5219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

FF13 sucks, and no wonder why those early reviews r bad!!!

also i am not gonna buy FF13 even if it was the last RPG!!

i hate it when companies like SE play with our most favorite franchise just to make it multiplatform!!

oh i wish FF13 dont sell well at all on 360 so SE will learn a lesson!!

@hay

btw hay is my cousin!

actually now that u mentioned it i might buy it for max $20 if there is a discount but no way a full price, and if FFvs13 already out then i dont think i will bother to buy it at all!

and if u own a 360, then just pirate it since it has no online gameplay!

ohh and about hay my cousin, it was a silly old joke of mine :)

hay5219d ago

And if someone will tell me game wasn't compromised cause of being multiplat I'm gonna laugh in his face. Through the net...

@The Killer: I'm gonna buy it. It's cheaper than every new game on PS3/Xbox in my country. I think now it's for a reason :D

Jamie Foxx5219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

is when versus is released and the content,graphics and scope of the exclusive version are compared to the the multiplatform game

until then ill hold off all judgment

Guido5219d ago

So it is safe to say:

FFXIII gimped due to the 360's limitations - confirmed.

They only put it that way to be nice to MS for lining their pockets for a stab at having the game on the 360 and at this point in time I think that there is no denying it now.

ChozenWoan5219d ago

That is my must buy price for this game... so I'll be getting it next year. Till then can't wait for VS13.

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AllroundGamer5219d ago

Thank you MS for the limitations and "future proof" HW you gave us... and for free this time...

Game13a13y5219d ago

thank you MS for reducing one of the greatest franchise in videogame history to crap.

Pillage055219d ago

I really don't wanna blame the 360 for some of the problems it sounds like we're getting, but it's really hard to not wonder how much the game would turn out differently if it kept its exclusive status.

Although I bet much of the content that was cut, was cut for good reason. I'm really curious though about the first 20 hours being so linear, has anything to do with the multiple discs issue. Hopefully the game is still good though. SE will prolly end up getting my money for it no matter what happens cause I'm so starved for a decent rpg. :P

Microsoft Xbox 3605219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

The 360 is a joke. Gimping it for the rest of us.

Consoldtobots5219d ago

what I don't understand is how MS and SE are able to formulate a contract that invades the scope of the one with Sony. Most of us want to scold Sony for being complacent about the matter but then again they have shown us good reason for not putting emphasis on the 3rd party situation.

gaffyh5219d ago

If this doesn't prove that the DVD limitations have affected the game, I don't know what does...

rezenu5219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

So very true reaper.

I had a feeling this was going to happen.

TheLog5219d ago

SE: Opps i make a sucky game what should i do boss?
SE BOSS: Ahh just blame it on MS like everyone does.
SE: Okey dokey.

Who the hell says it must be 3 dvds??? They could make 6 for all i care, as long as the game is great people will appreciate it. Yeah just blame it on MS people for SE poor decision.

bnaked5219d ago

Shame on you square enix!

red2tango5219d ago

Square Enix is making the game fit onto 3 dvds because Microsoft covers the cost of 3 dvds. If you make a game that requires more than 3, then you have to pay royalty fees, which SE do not want to do. In conclusion, no matter what you say, it is the xbox 360's fault.

TheTwelve5219d ago

Not buying this game: confirmed.

Blame Microsoft, sure...but blame Square-Enix for allowing Microsoft to jack up their groove out of greed.

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camachoreloaded88065219d ago

the 360's use of DVDs might be part of the reason behind this, we also have to take into account that this happens all the time. Like how plenty of scenes are deleted from movies, sometimes portions of videogames have to be left out as well.

Oftentimes there will be criticisms that a certain scene or chapter of a game doesn't feel right, maybe because it ruins the pace of the game and whatnot. Maybe this applies to the content that was edited out. We have to keep in mind that the developers may have thought that adding Lightning's neighborhood or a zoo wouldn't have improved the game overall.

How do we even know if that deleted content was any good? Everyone is acting like this zoo/amusement park would have made the game a perfect masterpiece, and that this would have changed your already-hesitant minds about whether to purchase this or not. Like I said, I open to the suggestion that the 360 is partly to blame for the removing of this content, but we really have to stop judging like this. If this content was essential to the game, I'm sure they would have kept it in.

thewhoopimen5219d ago (Edited 5219d ago )

Would additional content make or break a game?

One of the chief concerns/complaints from critics with this game was how there are no towns. When you take what this guys is saying about deleting a "HOME" area (which would be one of the 1st towns), you get the idea that many other "towns" were probably deleted as a result of space limitations. Would it have made a difference? Well according to critics one of the MAJOR problems with the game is the general disconnect that you feel moving from area to area. Often times beyond a name, there is no point of reference of the community or city you are in (IE b/c there are NO TOWNS). You don't get to see the culture or dynamics of the area or even get into the gameworld in general because there is no exploration/discovery. Instead of an RPG, it becomes more of a series of fights and conflicts u run into like a fighting game ...ie Soul Calibur IV. You get this fantasy setting with a rudimentary backstory on why they should fight and u go at it.

So to answer your question, YES it possibly made a HUGE difference to the outcome of this game. If you don't know where you are at or what is going on to a place, what would be the point of fighting there? With RPGs, discovering that underlying conflict instead of just being told of it is one of the cornerstones of good RPG game design.

Show instead of tell.

TotalPS3Fanboy5219d ago

Another great game ruined and limited by the 360.

*Shakes fist at Microsoft.

FamilyGuy5218d ago

"Say it ain't so SE, say it ain't so!"

Was already up and running on PS3 hardware? It would've been nice to see the true version of FF13 but apparently a 4-6 disc package is entirely too expensive to manufacture over a 3-4 disc one.

vhero5218d ago

2 reasons I can think of either for DLC or to cut down the discs for 360.

pixelsword5218d ago (Edited 5218d ago )

it makes me sick to my stomach that the game was released at all, knowing what it could have been.

Ravage275218d ago

what i don't understand is the need to limit the game content to 3 dvd worth of space. What's the problem with releasing it on 6,7,8 discs if that is the true game volume? Couldn't M$ waiver the per disc royalty just this once? It's an FF game for god sake

Ravage275218d ago

there can only be 2 reasons
1) They didn't have enough time to polish it, which is no excuse really considering that they had 6 years of production time.
2) Their aim to fit it on 3 dvds. This is exactly what SE said.

Stuff gets deleted all the time but an entire game worth of content?!?!
And there's no way anyone can spin that into a good thing. Removing them for pacing issues is pure bullsh%t, they can easily be made optional and it will be a non-issue. More likely than not, i feel it is due to SE's greed and their plans to capitalize on DLCs. This is their chance after all, FF13 is very likely the only HD game they released this gen that is profitable.

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ThePostalDudeX5219d ago

Thinking about picking up my first Final Fantasy game since there is no story continuance in this game from the others. There was two gripes I had with the series.

1. CGI while it always may look better then the game was no excuse to have the game look like something out of the N64.

2. The combat sucked assss will this be more akin to God of war or the same turn based bull? I hit him......OHHHHH I MISSSSSSED i gotta heal myself OH NO I DIED AH CHIRST next guy.....okkkkkk......i got yaaa....

kraze075219d ago

"The combat sucked assss will this be more akin to God of war or the same turn based bull?" Wow, this is the first time I've ever heard someone say they want a Final Fantasy game to be more of an action rpg then turn based. I have to disagree with you there. I wish they would stick with the completey turn-based formula.

DaTruth5219d ago

I hadn't played a Final Fantasy game since there was no number on the end. I thought I would hate the turn based combat; But the TGS trailer made me reconsider based on the story aspect of the game(Even my girl wants to play it and she has no interest in videogames). I downloaded FF7 and am having a blast with it, unable to put my PSP down!

Meryl5219d ago

why I am I not surprised, some compromises had to be made, to fit this game on a decent amount of DVD's for the X360 version oh well FF Vs XIII will make up for this game.

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Trebius5219d ago

At least now the Xbox fangirls wont be able to argue it.

This is straight from the horse's mouth.

Hear that FlopBoxPleaseFixMe players?

Your system has no games, and the games it buys out get gimped hardcore.

Now I bet next we'll hear from Rockstar that GTA4 was gimped to avoid multiple disc issues on the DvD.

Doc Sony5219d ago

GTAIV was gimped for the 360

Rockstar North has come out and said Agent will be what GTA IV should have been without the limitations of DVD.

From the horses mouth, I swear.

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JasonPC360PS3Wii5218d ago

Yet GTA IV on the 360 looked and played better LOL nice try droid

CernaML5218d ago

Wasn't there talk about Rockstar having to gimp the size and content of the game due to the DVD limitations?

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movements5219d ago

Whoa, enough to make another game? Wow.... That's serious right there

Kamikaze1355219d ago

Would that "other game" be a town builder? haha, jk!

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972128d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus128d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda126d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B126d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981126d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot126d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda125d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot125d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy125d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay126d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12128d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay126d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB126d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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