Edge: Bayonetta Review

Bayonetta is funny. It even threatens to be tender in places, though quickly thinks better of it. It's a beautiful and graceful fighting game that lets imagination loose, and winks before slapping Dante, Kratos and every other hero back to the drawing board. Above all else, it's proof that you can never have too many great ideas – or do too much with them.

[Blaster_Master]

Get the heck out of here! Slap Kratos back to the drawing board? You guys must have some good drugs over there in Europe? I haven't played the full version yet, however I played the demo and sure it was an okay game, but to compare this game to GOW is cynical. Then again, this is Edge I am talking about. One of the most eccentric group of so called gaming gurus in the gaming media. I would say they are even worse then Eurogamer. At least Eurogamer puts out credible news (not reviews) once in a while. All edge does is over hype games like they are doing now.

[THE MAX SPEED 21]

U mad?

Great score by the way.

[DevilishSix]

I agree comparing GOW to Bayonetta is apples and oranges, its the same genre but different style. Bayonetta is closer to DMC and Ninja Gaiden than GOW, but what I came away for the review was that Bayonettas core combat system slaps Kratos down and frankly from what I have played this is true.

Bayonetta is a AAA game, all the big boys like Gamespot, IGN, 1UP, Eurogamer, EDGE, Play, Gamepro, etc. have given it a 9.0 or higher, its a fabulous game from an excellent developer.

This genre is probably my favorite I own and have played all the versions of GOW, Ninja Gaiden, and DMC, so believe me when I say Bayonettas is the best combat system to date. Bayonetta trumps GOW's QTE's and brutality, it trumps Ninja Gaidens combo depth and weapon varitation, and it trumps DMC's style and humor.

Please note I did not say its better than GOW's overall gameplay experience, I am just saying when comparing toe to toe, Bayonettas combat is deeper and more satisfying.....I think I am going to go pester my wife for a bit now.

[PS3GamerFix]

You said it best when you stated it has the best combat system to date. Most people will not understand what you mean until they play the full game.

[Marceles]

Great game that everyone should play other than just the boring demo. Yes yes I know "buh buh bad port" yada yada..."buh I'll just wait for (insert game)" yada yada...but it really is a good game that gets way better the more you play it. Trust me, DONT go by just the demo or else you're only going by 1% of the game. Even after platinuming the game there's tons of stuff still to do in the game.

[nycredude]

Develish

I played the demo and it sucks ass. Getting Darksiders instead. have fun playing an 8 hour game with 4 hours of cutscenes. The only thing I gathered from the demo is this is a better DMC with a girl that you can pretty much button mash your entire way through. The couple of boss fights in the demo I beat by using ONE button. Epic fail there. Just keep shooting the gun. Plus those finishing moves look retarded.

Also no one is really talking about the story. Is there even one?

@Ps3gamerfix

Gow3 doesn't need to do anything but what it has done with 1 and 2 but better. As a fan I am buying GOW 3 for GOW not some new game with new ideas. It could get a 7 by all the BS media for all i care cause I all but paid off my ultimate edition.

To be fair Bayonetta is prob a good game but I didn't like any of the DMC games so likely won't like this either.

[TOO PAWNED]

Nope still don't care- there is something about this game ...i just don't find it appealing. It could be because it plays like DMC and i hate DMC. Maybe that's it

[pangitkqb]

I consistently disagree with Edge. 10 for Bayonetta? The oversexed action fest that is light on story and character development and heavy on boobs and butt? A horny fifteen year old's dream, perhaps, but really? Grown men came up with that score?

There is no outlet I ignore like edge.

[DARK WITNESS]

hummmm.... the last time i ignored a demo and thought i would still give the game a try, i ended up with a festering pile of dogpoo known as Ninja Blade.

I tried the demo of Bayonetta and it didn't knock my sox off at all. I can't say I am much of a DMC fan and the last one didn't impress me at all. I am more of a NG fan, but again NG2 i felt was a bit of a let down.

Is this the real deal ?

[BRG9000]

Clicking into the review and commenting with a rant about edge is a funny way of ignoring it...

[DelbertGrady]

Impossible!

A 360 or Wii exclusive I could understand, but a Playstation exclusive? Such foul words have never before been spoken. We all know that Playstation exclusives are pieces of Eden, developed by Jesus and the 12 apostles - in his parents basement - and then ported to earthly code by the holy angels over at Sony. Heathens!

[Two-Face]

Yeah.

If a PS3 exclusive get's great scores, it deserves it.. but when a 360 exclusive or a multiplatform game get's it... it's overrated.

This site is overrun by so many PS3 fanboys it's not even funny. I'm a PS3 owner, but I atleast don't have my head in Sony's ass, and I play quality games. Even if multi or exclusives. Bayonetta is a quality game.

The reviews also proves my point that it is a quality title.

[Unicron]

Scores totally arbitrary and biased and not my own opinion thus mattering little to nothing at all, you say? Reality.

Bayonetta is good, like all good games, because of whats in the box, not what some biased fanboy journalist says about it.

;-)

[v1c1ous]

you DO know you DON"T have to re-invent the wheel everytime to still BE FUN AND INTUITIVE!

[chaosatom]

How long is the game?

Maybe it's worth a rental.

People need to stop comparing it to God of War, which isn't even out yet. It's stupid for Edge to even mention Kratos in there.

[Darrius Cole]

More brutal that God of War, huh?

I find that hard to believe. The phrase "writing checks that your --- can't cash" comes to mind. I'll find out today, though.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Play the game first, retards.

[Homicide]

You PS3 fanboys are just mad that the PS3 version isn't as good as the 360 version. This is a good game; deal with it.

[Unicron]

"you DO know you DON"T have to re-invent the wheel everytime to still BE FUN AND INTUITIVE! "

You're totally right vicious. Though I do find it hilarious when one game DOESN'T reinvent said wheel, is amazing, and gets slammed for doing nothing new... meanwhile other games do nothing new, are fun and get a free pass in reviews.

<3 "journalism"

[APOFISBORICUA]

and overhyped. Yes I played it and finish it and only took me 7 hours. Want some spoilers?
I really cant understand the overrated this game is. In the other hand Im enjoying Darksiders(360 version) better than this game. So I dont know why the hell they compared it to a demo of GOW3. But you know what guys?? You dont need to play the demo to saw that the GOW demo (yes a demo) is wayy ahead graphically speaking of this game. PS3 gamers buy an exclusive isnstead of this game...if not you will find a better, larger and funnier adventure on Darksiders!

PEACE AND GAMING!!!

[Blaster_Master]

Im not mad. I would totally agree with this article if I thought that Banyonetta totally looked and played better then GOW. But it doesn't. Not even by a small margin. Besides the fact that the game's story sucks, unlike you 360 only guys, I think having to put 100 bullets into something just to kill them is really unsatisfying. She is far from a badass. She's sexy, and the combos are pretty cool, but the aiming of the guns feels more like a chore then being fluid. Her hair monster is repulsive. And most of all, nothing about this games draws me in. Im not saying its a bad game though. Its better then most action games out, but its not even in the same league as GOW. Even Dante's inferno is better. Not much better, but it is better IMHO.

[mastiffchild]

I'm surprised that Edge have joined in throwing perfect scores at Bayonetta. While it's a fine game, and one I misjudged from the demo-though only slightly-with their penchant for innovation I'm sure it doesn't REALLY fit their bill, does it?

It's a great romp but seeing as it's still just DMC, made by the same man in Kamiya to boot, with tits and hair attacks I woul;d've thought Edge might be tempted not to think it was perfect but there you go-what do I know? Consistendy of policy from a gaming publication? Madness!

Anyway, do I think it's overrated? Yes, any game that gets ten anywhere is overrated and the ten/ten system leaves so little room for subtlety that it cripples itself into making games appear perfect when that thing(the perfect game) has never been close to being made-not Uncharted2. Not Bayonetta and not GOW3 or Reach when they laucnh will be WORTHY of a true ten/ten score and the way they get thrown around when we can all find several flaws even with opur favourite games makes me feel, more and more, that scores would be better consihgned to the realms of history rather than just being the minor flame starting irritant and inaccuracies they are today.

Seriously, it's great that Bayonetta's getting some great scores(as it is when any good game is recognised by the media) nbut the opast few years are littered with 10/10 scores and it's starting to get a little pointless when games with obvious faults like Bayonetta get them like this-seriously I'm a big Kamiya fan(DMC is one of my favourite series)but Bayonetta is so close to his former work that I struggle to think of it as a true new IP. Anyway, i wouldn't have much of an issue , and don't apart from the fact no game's perfect, with other sites giving whatever score they like to Bayonetta even with what I feel are it's flaws but with Edge ready to hammer most games for lack of innovation I find it a little odd from them, that's all.

I will say, though, that you get a hell of a lot more out of it the longer you play but no matter how much someone might love it there will, justoifiably too prolly, be those that hate it as it's going to get up lots of people's noses with it's style and char design inparticular-pretty Marmitey, imo. And if you found DMC too much I just wouldn't buy before renting. I'd give it a high eight point something if pushed and after playing both demos I was really unimpressed! Lastly, there's been a lot made of the poor quality of the PS3 port but I chose to actually play the game on PS3 anyway because of a controller preference I have as I feel the issues are WAY overstated and won't bother you that myuch and certainly weren;'t as bad as, say, The Orange Box was imo and not nearly enough for me to ditch my DS3. There was some slowdown(as there was on the 360 too just not as much)and I found it was sometimes not when I'd expect(I.E not always when the screen was very busy)which was odd and also the load times were a little longer sometimes but unless that's a particular bugbear of yours I wouldn't worry too much about getting whichever version you choose and if you like DMC it's unlikely you won't find a good bit of fun with the little headed witch ghost thing!

Anyhow, that's me done on the whole Bayonetta thing as I'm onto D'siders next. Is it just me that thinks sites are throwing around perfect scores so much that it's devaluing the whole point of scores?

[Jamegohanssj5]

It's no Ninja Gaiden. In fact neither is GOW or DMC.

TGSI

[Kevin ButIer]

You are really arrogant when it comes to reviews, and you gave a perfect score to Bayoneta... Lame

Bayoneta is a great game but ¿10/10?... WTF

[Perkel]

agree.. i lol at score ...with same basic dmc formula ... lol lol lol ^ 2.

[Jaces]

Why must they make idiotic comments like that?

You didn't hear them say "Dante slapping Kratos and every other hack n' slash character back to the drawing board or vice versa bull. It really is silly and tasteless.

GoWIII and DMC are games that set the pace for HnS games, Bayonetta has simply made further innovations to the genre. Why hate on two games that have been nothing but great?

[PS3GamerFix]

I was really unsatisfied with the demo and was skeptical about the game but once I played the full game was truly impressed. This game is better than most action hack and slash games available period. Yes, it pushes the whole naughty witch angle a little too much in your face but an incredible game nevertheless. Give this game a chance and try the full game, its just that good.

Edge have a very questionable history of review scores but this one is on the money. I am sure God of War 3 will be great (storyline and action) but it better come up with something more than the same gameplay and more graphic mutilations or will get more very good but not great reviews. I rather not make too many assumptions about GOW3 until I play it though so will reserve judgement for now.

[Son_Lee]

I'm going to go rent it within the next hour. Will give you my review if any of you care, I'm extremely fair.

[IQUITN4G]

Simple truth is that this just wont appeal to some and the demo enough will have confirmed that it doesn't add up in the minds of those that prefer their Gow etc

It is over the top and quite off putting at first.It also seems no more than standard hack and slash

It is however quite easily the best example this genre has if you can get past the presentation of it all

A couple of weeks ago prior to my playing the demo, i was of the belief that the game was a bag of sh!te in that typical Japanese over the top way.Despite my 2 or 3 attempts of the demo, i still came to the conclusion that Bayonetta sucked a big one

To where i am now having played the demo probably a good 50 times.Bayonetta quite easily destroys everything else in this genre.It may not ever appeal to some but as a GAME, it's combat mechanics are far beyond games such as GOW or even the mighty Gaiden

On the surface yes it's nothing special maybe but when you discover just how delightfully different it's aproach to freedom and depth is - and just the sheer ease that is controlling Bayonetta - it's then you are in heaven

It might be that you will always prefer Gow say for it's story and it's journey through a mythology, and while that is of course fine, it sure as hell wont make it the better game based on a superior example of combat design - Gow has never been praised for it's better than anything combat to begin with - more than anything else, Gow's positive media attention is mostly gained from how the game tells an epic tale all of it presented by impressive action

To slag on Bayonetta is to really not have the first clue as to what actually makes for great games - basically just ignorance

[ceedubya9]

Good post.

[Information Minister]

So if I don't like Bayonetta, that's because I'm ignorant? Really? People aren't allowed to have different tastes and preferences these days?

[khellendros1]

I 'm not sure why everyone is hating on this game. I've never seen a game received so much resistance. I think that most of it comes from the PS3 fans because of the sh!tty port. I'm very interested in this game but I don't want to pay $60 for an inferior game. Especially when there are so many great games coming out.

[ceedubya9]

They have this idea that most 360 gamers are overhyping this game for fanboyish reasons. Yet, review sites left and right are giving the game outstanding scores. Obviously, the game is good at what it does, and that's being a stylish action game. This game has nothing to do with God of War, no matter how many times people want to bring that series up to compare. They aren't even close to being similar.

I would suggest anyone that considers themselves a fan of Devil May Cry type action to really check this game out, even if you can only do so on the PS3. At least give it a rental.

[BeaArthur]

I don't know if she slaps Kratos. I still think in this genre God of War is the standard but she definitely slaps Dante. Devil May Cry has needed to evolve for the last few sequels.

[ceedubya9]

God of War is the standard for story and adventure. But for pure combat its not even close. Even still, the games are so different, its useless to compare.

[Optical_Matrix]

To be honest, it just over the top stylish, cheesey and all sorts. The fact that you play as a sexualized female witch also puts people off. As well as the fact her body suit is made out of her hair which can also turn into monsters etc. Sounds whacky? That's what this industry needs. I hate how this gem, people complain about lack of creativity then critisize games like Bayonetta that try to be so unforgivingly unique and over the top. It's just a bit of fun ffs. Just because she's not an oiled up, steroid hungry space marine in a world war post apocolyptic setting, the game is shot down.
A refreshing game to say the least. Can't wait to get my copy on friday. And PS, I am love God of War and I'm a PS3/Wii gamer. So the myth that PS3 gamers are bashing it is also a pile of bull.

[ceedubya9]

Its not ALL PS3 gamers. Just a good bunch of people here that tend be Pro Sony that are. Of course, there are some Xbox gamers here that don't like the game as well. Funny thing is, I don't understand how people who clearly have no interest, or don't like something, tend to waste their time posting in said game's threads.

So, are you getting this game? Did you play or like the demo? I know that for myself, I find the wackyness of the game amusing and I think it plays well.

[kewlkat007]

That's like me and Jrpg's I will always wanna play one myself before passing judgment. If your a fanboy of one console and feel like that version is sub-par then you have the rights to stay away.

-I've seen some discriminate/act sexist, over a female character...etc(I know it's Video Games)
-Some compare it to games that are in the same genre but not similar style.
-Some are fanboys of one maybe two games in the hack & slash genre and find and reason to hate.

From the reviews alone, I can't pass this up and it's right there in my genre.

[Baka-akaB]

Exactly !

Seriously , if you dislike it , chances are you dislike the dmc subgenre anyway or no longer care about it .

But if you do like the genre , chances are you'll like , even love it . It's as simple as that .

Just get it through you thick head of haters ...

It's still simple ... if every of your sentence about it are like "bla bla but it is JUST LIKE DMC" , then it pretty much hihglight how low your opinion of DMC is , and is a big clue of why you dont get it .

And i dont even want to get started on the "bla bla bla button masher" folks . Truth is GOW is simply far less complex gameplay wise , but better in many other areas ... It's ajust another style of game .

And truth be told again , i bet some of the complainers didnt last long in DMC 1 and 3 by just mashing buttons , unless playing on easy .

[Ninji]

Just from the first few words it shows this review is based only on hype. Then he jokingly says it slaps Dante, Kratos, & every other hero back to the drawing board? (at least I think it's a joke because I would rather not assume that he is retarded) lmao, sure. I guess you might as well try and hype it up though as the game is overshadowed by Darksiders.

[Optical_Matrix]

The fact he opens with "Bayonetta is funny" is evidence that the review score is based purely on hype? Ninji you really do talk out of your arse. Way too much.

[Disccordia]

The review was not based on hype. Edge were actually one of the first to review this game outside of Japan; maybe as far back as October. They only make their reviews available online a while after the magazine was published.. for obvious reasons.. anyway, that's not to say I agree with their score ;)

[EvilCackle]

I don't see why people get so bent out of shape about a good multiplatform game. It's not taking the shine off any other game.

[The Meerkat]

People in general are not.
Only people on N4G are hating (And its the usual suspects that are doing all the shouting) ***[If your mouse pointer is hovering next to the disagree button then you are one of the usual suspects]***

Just look at other sites, most people like the game.

I'm getting Bayonetta, GOW3 and Darksider. There is no rule that says I can only have one.

[Bordel_1900]

LOL @ EDGE

What a bunch of clowns.

[Unicron]

Love DMC, will buy this too...

But Edge... what happened to scoring based on innovation and originality? You and Gametrailers sure are hypocritical.

[Baka-akaB]

Nothing new here . At least they gave a good game it's due (though 10/10... is a bit ..) . But doesnt change how lousy they are with their fake elitism .

[Gun_Senshi]

Needs to add Sex to sell due to being sh!t, Check

When a game needs to add sex you can easily say its a bad game

[Cheeseknight28]

Like how God of War, God of War II, and God of War COO all have a sex scene? Are you really naive enough to think they are that different? Hypocrite.

And you say this game has a shallow combat system... you really haven't even given this game one chance. You are just hopping on the bandwagon that GOW fanboys created. They decided this game was bad before they even played it, and you're just spitting out exactly what you already read elsewhere. Last I checked, God of War didn't let you equip 4 weapons at once and have unique combos for each.

I don't understand you morons sometimes. I'm still buying God of War III, but that's for the story. Not for any sort of "next-gen gameplay."

[mrv321]

You know the God Of War games are set in the period where sex allmost defined it. While it is a fictional world atleast God of War has the excuse to put sex in it... I mean after all if you complained about God of Wars sex you might as well complain about WW2 games having tanks or Victorian era games having trains.

[ceedubya9]

Have you played this game or the demo? If you think this game has shallow combat, then I'd really like to know your opinion and examples on what great combat system would be like. The combat options are my main draw to this game.

[Cheeseknight28]

You are drawing away from the point though. Gun_Senshi was saying Bayonetta was only using sex to sell, a fact that is easily disputable because the only way you would know that is if you have already watched a trailer of the game or played it already. Just like God of War, the most you would ever get from looking at the case is the ESRB warnings.

Yes you could argue that sex was quite "important" in Greek times, but the developers still chose to put it in the game, regardless of whether or not it was important to the plot (Which it wasn't). The sex in the game was superfluous, and almost seemed to me like it was put in the game for shock value. After all, if sex, as you say, defined the Greek culture then shouldn't there have been more instances of nudity in God of War and Chains of Olympus? (GOW2 strayed away from civilization for 90% of the game so I'll exclude it)

I'm not giving Bayonetta a free pass. However, you can't condemn Bayonetta for something that GOW is blatantly showing in more explicit form.

[Gun_Senshi]

Ninja Gaiden has example of good combat system.

This game you can pass it by smashing one button only. I played the demo and the game is piss easy.

You try to justify the GOW sex scene, which is very small compared to all game, compared to a game who's full of sex and character getting naked and stripping with every attack

Have fun playign easy mode game thinking it has a deep combat system. Even bosses are smashing and doing QTE Torture attacks.

[Cheeseknight28]

Are you serious? Are you really serious? You are bashing Bayonetta for selling based on sex and saying Ninja Gaiden, a game that actually made a TV advertisement showing how you can use sixaxis to jiggle breasts, is a great game.

This site amazes me sometimes. It defies logic.

And for the record, you are comparing a game that makes difficulty a main selling point to another game that never makes a mention of it. Try again.

[ceedubya9]

Are we talking about on the hardest or easiest difficulty?

Also, even if that is the case, even if you can beat the DEMO (since you said you played the demo and not the full game)with only one button, that doesn't mean that the the combat is shallow. That just means you found something that's effective for you.

I can beat the Ninja Gaiden games with just the Dragon Sword and and one or two combos. Does that make that game shallow as well? No, but those are the things that work best for me within its massive list of combat options.

[IQUITN4G]

Lol shallow you say, so what exactly is an example of a deep action combat experience?

N64 sure isn't blessed with brainy folk

[AssassinHD]

Actually I rather liked the combat system, and who cares if it has sexual overtones? Sex is a part of life, like it or not. I will say one thing though; I hope the full game has mappable controls. I would like to change a couple of buttons around from what I played in the demo.

[thief]

i.e., an average multiplatform game being hyped against a superior PS3 exclusive. The potshots against Kratos in several reviews is proof of that - its not even a similar game. Did you find any articles saying that Nathan Drake kicks master chief's ass?

The reason this is getting flak is the amount of hype and not enough justification. weak story, weak graphics, apparently the shallow 2-button combo system and DMC-like combat is so awesome that it deserves 10 points higher than DMC or Ninja Gaiden - give me a break, will ya?

[ceedubya9]

I don't know who started all of the God of War comparisons in the first place, but it needs to stop. The game are NOT similar at all, like you said.

But if you feel this combat system is shallow, then you must feel doubly so about the one in the God of War series.

I can understand if you don't like it, but for some reason, the game is getting good-great scores across the board, and most gamers seem to love it so far. Can it be considered over-hype when the general idea is that the game is good?

[thief]

Well, I am sure the game is pretty good - its Hideo Kamiya after all - just annoyed by the blatant GoW-baiting and also feels like reviewers allowed the fact that its a sexy chick as the to bias scores. I guess if anyone liked DMC, they should go ahead and buy this. Personally not a big fan of this genre, GoW is not one of my favs, the only one I liked was Ninja Gaiden.

[Baka-akaB]

Except they didnt . it has been the big turn off for many naysayers ... way before the demo .

It's some of the guys here that got stuck onto it and decided that since someone loves it , then it's because of "them boobies" .

Of course it doesnt matter that it's the game every DMC fan was expecting for years , with or without a women , and slutty or not .

[iistuii]

The PS3 only owners are going off on one as it's yet again a shoddy port. Go to Gamespot for the reviews of the game.God it's lucky the PS3 has great exclusives as this is getting bad now that every multiformat is a poor excuse compared to the 360 versions.The PS3's been out long enough now for the dev's to at least get them running on par. Jerky framerates and jaggies are too common on the PS3 multi's. Ive got both consoles and can play everything, however i wouldn't touch a multi on the PS3.

@ Below , What so Gamespot have played the game and it's got poor framerates and jaggies , sorry if your blinkered ....Though the core experience remains virtually identical to the Xbox 360 version, Bayonetta's PlayStation 3 port is hampered by a number of technical issues.How many times have i read that.

[Ares84PS3]

Plus....have you developed for both consoles since you know so much about them?

[Two-Face]

I buy tons of multiplatforms on PS3, and have finished all of them, and had great time. YES, even The Orange Box, that many of you claim that s*cks on PS3.

I'm going to buy this game also. Because I don't care about a few framerate drops and jaggies. It does not ruin the experience at all for me.

[ceedubya9]

And that's how it should be. Sometimes its just to just do things your own way instead of always relying on someone else's opinion.

[Silly gameAr]

I get almost all of my multiplats on the PS3, and perform just as good and sometimes better on the PS3 than 360.

Seriously, I don't see why you guys are so proud and hyped up when it comes to multiplats and the 360.

[rezenu]

You know...fanpeople brag about a couple of pixels that looks better on their system of choice. Real gamers play the game and ENJOY it. I have the imported version and the game looks fine.

It isn't the best but it's playable.

Yes, puff that chest up and brag. Because that's the gamer's way./s

[iistuii]

That's exactly the comments i mean. Well that's not good enough .It isn't the best but it's playable, is telling them, "Don't worry if it's not up to scratch , i'll still buy it".

[Ares84PS3]

...oh right it's not a PS3 exclusive.

[DelbertGrady]

LBP - 10
Uncharted 2 - 9
Demon's Souls - 9

[iistuii]

About framerate drops and jaggies. It's the Dev's who are now taking the piss after all this time. That's why i kept my 360, for Multi's. We shouldn't have to put up with this now especially after we know what can be done with the likes of U2 etc.

[A Cupcake for Gabe]

So what makes Bayonetta a 10/10 when every other Hack-n-Slash isn't?

And why does this game get put up to GOW? Since DMC is on 360, do these sites need to find more multiplats to battle PS3 exclusives(ie prototype vs infamous)?

[Unicron]

Yup. Bayonetta is more akin to DMC than GoW. But hey, they need hits, since game journalism is a joke.

[Baka-akaB]

Yet again when was it established that Gow was such a better game ?

And when was it established (aside from lately obviously ) that being like DMC was a flaw ?

GoW's gameplay is good but quite simple compared to NG or DMC . But it obviously beat them in other areas .

Thats yet again the magic of the variety of subgenres and styles with a same type of game . Gow can be like gow , bayonetta and dmc can be like themselves , and NG like NG . Hell guess what even Prince of persia was different too ..

Indeed some people are hyping it as one of the 3 only alternative and potential rivals to Gow (like Dante inferno , darksiders ...) .

But likewise some people were just ready to kill the game because "oh dear lord it goes against the holy GoW" and isnt exclusive .

Just look at the first post , the guy hasnt even played the game , and keep stepping his foot in rage , despite many reports of the game being better than it's demo .

Searching more deeply into history , i'd bet and be convinced he was already calling it crap before the demo anyway . hence it being doomed either way .

[Jerk120]

What doesn't slap Kratos back to the drawing board?

I'll have to try it some time.

[Kakihara]

I found the demo more fun than I thought I would but I'm still not getting it. I just hate the style of it. Japan has some of the greatest art and music in the world but most of it's mainstream stuff is second only to India in lame, corny, backwards awfulness. At least to me, it just rubs me the wrong way. When I see something like this game I just can't shake the feel of dumb teenager guys with girl's haircuts posting screencaps of Japanime on messageboards and using words like 'fail' and 'owned' with no hint of irony. It's an awful shallow flashy soulless cultural movement that started in Japan and I hate to see it spreading.

[spunnups]

A chick dancing around to some insanely annoying music destroying demons with her hair will never take the place of a Mount Olympus God Killer. Cmon guys, Sack Up!

[bjornbear]

for I am sure its an absolutely awsome game.

But I can't help laugh at the fact that Edge give bayonetta a 10, and then other equally great or possibly GREATER games 7's...and 8's.

buuuut since we all know how reviews are...the number ten from edge to me is the same as the number 2

[robotnik]

Edge: the last remnant of the Micro$oft era.

In The End, There Will Be Only Chaos.

[PStu'rd]

''*Insert name of mag that doesnt praise ovverated sony garbage* is the BIASED WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!''

Sfags are back to square 1 again. Crying about the whole world being biased against their sh1tty company of choice.

[FwanK]

I better rip Zeus head off instead of kicking enemies with high heels and the power of my hair :S

[Figboy]

there is no standard anymore.

journalists slap around 10 scores like it's nobody's business.

Edge is totally entitled to their opinion, but i think we've already established over the course of the last 4 years that their opinion is worthless.

Bayonetta is certainly not a terrible game. it's in the same vein as Devil May Cry, but if Bayonetta is a 10/10, then i can't imagine what games that push the genre FORWARD have to be scored.

and if people can't see the leniency in which outlets like Edge score multi-platforms and 360 exclusives in comparison to PS3 exclusives, after all of the hypocrisy and double standards, then they are being truly blind and naive.

no, not every game on the PS3 is pure gold, but a large percentage of the exclusives have really brought some amazing gaming to this generation, and they get undercut for it continually.

people like Soda Popinsky try and exaggerate the opinions of Playstation 3 fans by claiming we think every exclusive PS3 game is genius, but the truth is that many of those top tier PS3 exclusives are coming from top tier developers like Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, Insomniac Games, Quantic Dreams, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games, etc.

that'd be like trying to pretend that Bungie, Bioware, Lionhead, etc, don't deliver, at the LEAST, a quality gaming experience with each game.

instead of trying to call out PS3 fans for thinking PS3 exclusives are quality, stop trying to downplay the quality PS3 exclusives, which in turn causes most of the PS3 fanboys to get on the defensive.

Bayonetta is not crap. it is also not God of War, and it's not 10/10 material based on any logical scale/curve of rating video games. it has too many issues that prevent it from being a true 10/10 game, but those issues are ALWAYS ignored for 360 exclusives and multi-plats from Edge, but they are highlighted and make up the bulk of the reviews for PS3 exclusives (see the reviews for Resistance 2, Killzone 2, inFAMOUS, etc).

Edge is a blight on the gaming journalistic landscape. they never used to be this way (i used to buy their magazine religiously years ago), but somewhere along the line, they let their own personal bias/disgust with the PS3 get in the way of properly evaluating the GAMES (which, honestly, have no other affiliation with the console beyond being produced for it).

they hold their gold standard of the PS3 against the developers that are striving to make quality games for the platform.

the games should be judged by what they are, not by what platform they are available for.

Mass Effect 2 is going to be AWESOME. as is Crackdown 2 and Splinter Cell: Conviction.

that has NOTHING to do with the fact that they are on the Xbox 360, but EVERYTHING to do with the fact that they are developed by quality developers with a strong pedigree behind them. kind of like, i don't know, most of the PS3 exclusives released and coming out.

this cattiness amidst the gaming media is pathetic, and VERY immature. i've seen gaming blogs and official platform sites (ie, Xbox 360 only sites, and PS3 only sites) that are less bias and full of sh*t than the so called multi-platform, unofficial, unaffiliated sites.

anyway, Bayonetta is not my style of game (neither is DMC), but it's certainly not a terrible game in the least. i'd even say it deserves 8.5-9 scores.

for the record, i wouldn't give the GoW series 10/10 either, and i'm an absolute DIEHARD GoW fan, and thing GoW3 will be the best action game released this generation so far based off of the demo alone, but the series doesn't deserve 10/10 scores.

[Gobot]

so far i have yet to see any of these reviewers talk about the story to this sorry game.
I find it funny that they HAVE to compare it to GOW and just not dmc.
this is like mw2, sites are giving it 10's even thou it did a little to improve over the first one
but who cares anyways, the game is going to flop just like all the other games they've released

[xer0]

Edge should stick to magazine reviews for the less savvy out there.

After playing the Bayonetta Demo and the God of War 3 demo - Bayonetta was lacking in the fun factor. Their's only so much cheap thrills that can be had with a semi naked female character.

If they give God of War 3 an 8 out of 10 - we'll know they are smoking some wacky drugs in their offices. If not that - then will surely be courting controversy to rack up on site traffic.

If you went to their site to read the review - your only encouraging them to post even more silly reviews!

Seriously... 10 out of 10?
And what's with comparing it to God of War? Logically - it should be compared to the DMC series...

But OBVIOUSLY - they are on the hunt for more controversy and more site traffic. Lame.

[BasilMarceaux]

Loved the GOW3 demo, hated the Bayonetta demo.

Oh, and the Bayonetta demo I played was the 360 version.

Also, I liked Bayonetta better when it was called Devil May Cry BECAUSE ITS THE SAME DAMN THING IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE WAY!

[4Sh0w]

Any new great game and some NOT so great within a genre that comes along is always compared to a more established great IP, *notice GoW wasn't the only game compared in this reveiw, anyway it happens all the time with Halo, GT, Gears, MGS and plenty of other great games, I imagine UC will be compared to future greats that remind reviewers of it....its just a way for a reviewer to really get his point across about on how good or bad the game is compared to game X or Y, doesn't mean it will be true for everybody just means its true for the reviewer, and either way unless he bashes the former game it should not be taken as an insult to your favorite games quality. I still remember playing Pitfall for the very first time(yes Im that old), I was in awe, I thought it was never going to get better than that, I mean who could fathom, games like Tomb Raider would come along? And now we have UC2! As great as UC2 is I'll never believe so foolishly like did so many years ago that it doesnt get any better, I pray new games in the same genre will always surpass my old favorites. I know that it wont always happen, but as a gamer its good for us and the industry everytime it does happen and even though most games will come up short in an attempt to "be better", it just might end up being another great game thats *almost or not as good as my favorite, in that case I wont hate the reviewer for being wrong-*imo, or the dev for giving it his best shot.

Call me crazy, but whenever I used to read a gaming mag or now reading a gaming site I respect that says game X is better than one of my favorite games; my 1st thought is always "I hope they're right".

Several reviews have mentioned Bayonetta trumps one of my favorite action games= Ninja Gaidens combat system, again I hope so, later tonight after work, I'll find out for myself.

[eliasg]

LOL BAYONETTA OWNS GOD OF WAR SERIES!!!!!

BAYONETTA>>>>> >> GOW, GOW2, GOW 3

360 VERSION OWNS PS3 VERSION

LOL FANBOYS OF SONY

JUST LOL!!!!!

[BasilMarceaux]

I still dont understand the hype.

[jalen247]

I have played the demo and in my humble opinion a 10/10 is too generous. The game is an excellent game but not a perfect game if its demo is any indication of the final product.

[Keowrath]

I hate Edge, I only own a PS3 but I myself cannot wait until friday for Bayonetta to be released, been looking forward to it for a long time as I've been a fan of DMC since day 1. Really enjoyed the *inferior* demo. Friday can't come soon enough.

[Son_Lee]

Playing it now, and while the PS3 port has its clear problems (load times, minor frame rate issues), the game is magnificent. Really, you owe it to yourself to play this game. The combat system is insane, the music is enormously beautiful, and the story so far is better than I expected. Definitely play it. You shan't be disappointed.

[cyberwaffles]

f*ck Edge. i don't care that the game is getting a 10/10 since it sounds like a good game, but when they give 7's or 8's to amazing games like killzone 2, mass effect, or mgs4 then i give them the biggest hearty two-middle fingers i could ever give. can't wait to see their review for GOW3, then i'll give them a third middle finger...somehow.

[Keowrath]

whole heartedly agree