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Forza 3 Cars Vs. Real Life Cars ... Realism at its finest.

After spending countless hours searching Forza Motorsport 3 vs Real life cars pictures, finally from 100s of pictures only following were selected for comparison purpose.

Forza Motorsport 3 director Dan Greenwalt repeatedly said that "Forza 3 is definitive racing game of this generation". Well just like me, million other fans of Forza Motorsport 3 are also proud to say that "definitely, there's no doubt in that".

Check out images of Forza 3 cars Vs. Real Life cars.

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JhawkFootball065447d ago

In some of those pictures the game actually looks better than real life!!!!

deadpoole5447d ago

Good job, nice screenshots comparison.

sonarus5447d ago

I thought we didn't allow fanboy sites

SpoonyRedMage5447d ago

@Sonarus: They allow Playstation Lifestyle so why not this?

this is just comparing Forza to real pictures.

Lich1205447d ago

I like how most the pics they use of the real cars are edited so even they don't look real. It's hard to make a comparison to real life when the real life screens are cgi too...

LinuxGuru5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

PlayStation LifeStyle is not a "fanboy site".

We're not called "PlayStation LifeStyle is the Only LifeStyle".

If you joined our forums you'd have maybe one freaking clue what we are like.

Now this site....it's called "flameboys". I'd be willing to bet there's a bit of a difference.

SuperM5447d ago

lol some of the so called "real" car picks are actually cgi or atleast heavily modified.

Forza 3 looks very good but its not close to real life. It has a very distinct CG vibe to it. Gran Turismo on the other hand looks much more like real life.

sonarus5447d ago

Playstation lifestyle is equivalent to any other xbox site. But sites called flameboy and stuff are sites that encourage fanboyism. Its even called a site for fanboys in the site. I don't really care but i was just saying i thought it wasn't allowed.

Now for my opinion on these pics. Not to take anything away from Forza but i remember GT5 comparisons you couldn't tell the difference between real life and game cars. In Forza the difference is clear. Not to say it doesn't look good and the textures aren't present the art direction just makes it look more gamey than GT cars or something

SpoonyRedMage5447d ago

Well, I had a pretty neutral opinion of Playstation Lifestyle but it lost a LOT of credibility after this:
http://playstationlifestyle...

My point wasn't really about the specific site though, it's about the double standard because I don't think there'd be a problem if the site was praising GT and dissing Forza(in two separate pieces I might add).

I haven't seen any GT screens where I couldn't tell it was game, I think if you say you can't tell the difference you must have funny eyesight because graphics really aren't up to that level. Not even DX11 looks real.

aksmashh5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

I didn't think it could trouble GT5 but it looks good but now days the car models always look good so i think they need focus on background more.

Also they should have a girl on every car not just BMW :(
I don't have both consoles so i hope they hurry the f*ck up with GT5

ShabzS5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Edit haha... look at the lamborgini pic... the light in the forza one looks much better than the real one

same for the last one audi r8 v10..

sh*t man ... say waht you want about turn ten but they just shat out a visually superb game ...

Lifendz5447d ago

looks good, but not GT5 good.

TapiocaMilkTea5447d ago

I got 10 out of 14 from the link above! It's hard, the cars a flawless, but the key is to analyze the background. CGIs usually have clean spotless roads and buildings, and the light reflections from the cars are usually overdone (too shiny).

ShabzS5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

yah i got 8 out of 14 ... really tuff

Edit @ below: ... umm okaaayy ?.. thanks for doing the math for me your holiness? o_0

saint_john_paul_ii5447d ago

well, you got %57 of %100 right, so you failed.

menoyou5447d ago

Those are bullshots and everyone saw the gameplay which looks nothing like that so...

deadpoole5447d ago

Readers should realize that these pictures are only for general comparison purpose. Cause if it was aimed for HD purpose, he would have posted full 720p screenshots. Still I think comparison is quite good and would have been really better if he had posted hi rez pics.

Anyway anything is better then nothing. Me being Car Sim Fan GT5 is brilliantly amazing but being bored to death having no car sim to play atm therefore Im looking forward to FORZA 3.

vhero5447d ago

This whole news article stinks! the Forza 3 shots are touched up to start! not to mention they are compared to mostly CGI shots rather than "real life" as they put it. Yet again MS fanboys trying to prove Forza 3 is better. Why trying so hard if GT isn't as good as you say it is?? It's because they know Forza is second and wont ever admit it which is a shame as its the green mist that makes them fanboys :( . I bet you when the games released it will be only a fraction if any better than Forza 2 in terms of graphics which was jaggie as hell. The main reason why is customization. Its its greatest feature and its main downfall in terms of graphics as the power of the 360 will always hold it back hell I'll go as far to say even if if it was on ps3 with customization it couldn't look better than GT.
You cant have the best of both worlds with Forza so why not just buy both consoles and be done with all this crap?

supaflypriest15447d ago

It's funny, but know one is even talking about GT5, this is a Forza pic compare link...and forza fans are worried about GT5??

deadpoole5447d ago

xwabbit
Real = http://www.audi.com/etc/med...

Forza 3 = http://www.automedia.com/cs...

Edit: lmao i got a disagree

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Basically your shots are of Real is Audi R8 V12 TDI Concept.
Forza 3 is 2010 Audi R8 V10.

There is a big difference my friend.

bnaked5447d ago

lol, photoshopped pictures, bravo!!!

Sure, forza 3 is a game without Jaggies.. LMAO

Or maybe the resolution is 10000p lol

Go to gamersyde.com and download the gameplay vids, its not looking better than GT5P.. no way!

popup5447d ago

I really hope that those are not 'photo mode' shots on Forza 3 because the lighting seems to at last have improved over the previous game in making the cars look part of the scenery.

The footage from that in game video released yesterday was far inferior and I hope that was due to being off-screen. All it needed to lose from Forza 2 is the flat, toy car look.

I want to believe the hype and think that Turn 10 have taken a step up in the visuals dept toward the competition (bettering it in background detail i think). With all of these sorts of games, it is the feel of the game and how much realism it pokes your eyes with that will tell the real tale.

The truth is that both this and GT5 should be in any true gear heads collection. I prefer cars to consoles any day of the week.

@Lincoln Anderson. The previous article is really funny.

Pika-pie5447d ago

Im still waiting for the F3/GT comparison..

Come on people, now thats what I would call a comparison.

(But dont use Prolgue, use E309 build)

WEL5447d ago

Still no competition to GT5:P. Forza looks unrealistic but GT5:P looks even more realistic than real life! http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Youtube video Suzuka GT5:Prologue vs Real Life
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

xwabbit5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

@ deadpoole

I was just using audi pics, i never said it was the same car lol. Learn to read my friend. Those multi account disagrees are fun

MGSR THE HD VERSION5447d ago

how about we just leave gt5 out of this, the subject of THIS article is about forza3.

it's funny how we CAN'T even talk about one without mentioning the other, it's like ps3 gamers want to deliberately bypass forza3 or walk right on it.

SnuggleBandit5447d ago

@mgs:r

ya well maybe they will stop when you stop spamming ps3 stories with fanboy B.S. :)

phosphor1125447d ago

Too bad those aren't all the cars =P. There are 72..I think..I have um all, I just don't remember how many there are.

Pic saved =D

bobbysagettwo5447d ago

GT5 looks absolutely terrible. I just took that "gt5 vs real life" quiz, and i got 12/14. The only problem i had, was all of the pictures were incredibly CLOSE UP, and others were poor quality. Forcing me to determine which SHINY DOOR looked real vs which SHINY DOOR looked fake. As we all now, refraction and reflection has been something video cards can do realistically for a decade now. So comparing car to car is pointless. You need to compare the entire look of the game. It is as if you are saying "Wow look how well the PS3 rendered that mirror, its reflecting everything perfectly, like it was a REAL mirror". Aside from lighting dynamics, all you need is a 'car model' with a decent poly count. And your cars will look realistic. This is why car games have always looked the most "realistic" ever since the PS1.

You PS3 fanboys are blinded by the 700$ you spent. Sure, GT5 has a distinct crisp look. But that look isn't called "realistic" that look is called "PS3". When i see GT5 i can instantly tell its a PS3 game because it has that awkward over exposed look, and soft shading. This is ofcourse due to the fact that the PS3 cannot do HDR correctly, as well as the distinct way it shades in order compensate for other limitations.

You guys always seem to interpret "the overuse of shaders" for "realism". Well your wrong. The PS3 often overuses shaders in order to lend itself credibility. Thus far, the PS3 is dead last and has been since it came out. So i don't blame them. They need to do SOMETHING in order to prove themselves.

However, why don't we let the sales speak. It is as simple as this. The only way to measure the success of a game is through sales. I am sure plenty of you PS3 Fan's will be on here the day FORZA comes out SCREAMING about how "GT5 is still better even though it sold 200% less copies" and why? well the only explanation i can think, is that your trying to prove something to yourselves. Because, us 360 fan's don't believe you, we never have, all evidence is to the contrary, and N4G is comprised of about 90% PS3 fans. So you either either talking to yourself or eachother.
- Your like a group of friends who walks around the mall saying "dude we are so good, we are so awesome, we are so much better than everyone else" or, in other words, a douchebag
- Or if you aren't talking to huge PS3 fanboy population on N4G, then i suppose your talking to yourself? trying to prove something to yourself? In which case.. your just F@#king crazy. Smeagol comes to mind.

Well preach on PS3 fanboys, preach on. Surely, the only thing important in a game, is that 'you think its better', it abuses shaders, and it sells less. Surely.

You guys think your better because you have you have a few shader heavy exclusives. You think you have won some sort of war. But what you don't realize is that all of us 360 players are ROFL at you, from afar. You guys troll this website, flaming any article that isn't in the PS3's favor, and for what? Your console has proved itself to be the worst choice of the generation. I would buy another ps2, before i bought a PS3.. atleast its a healthy investment.

-PS3 fanboys, please disagree if you think i have accurately judged you.

JokesOnYou5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Sony extremists can downplay how sexy Forza3 looks if it thats what makes 'em happy but Turn 10 really has done an amazing job and they know it....but beauty is only skin deep so more importantly than just another pretty face when you get this hot piece of eye candy home and check out whats under the hood, the game physics and customization is what really keeps you coming back for more. Forza3 really draws you into the game, I mean she's got alot of personality to go along with that pretty smile.....and she'll be "available" in October, fcking sweet!

JOY

el zorro5447d ago

Forza 3 looks incredible and everybody knows it. The Forza games were already brilliant in the gameplay mechanics and decent in the graphics, but now Forza 3 is just gorgeous and is also receiving a whole bunch of improvements to the physics (like tire deformation) and features (more customizability and better online features). Forza 3 is going to be amazing and all PS3 fans can do is put it down. Gran Turismo is a great franchise as well and when GT5 finally comes out I am sure it will be great. I'm just saying, give Forza 3 a little credit.

Those screenshots look amazingly close to photorealistic and I can't wait to drive some of those cars.

bnaked5447d ago

lol, thats the most laughable post i've ever read..

wow, how can somebody write so much bullsh!t in one post.

LMAO

What an epic fail.. I'm speechless..

All Time Greatness5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

The length Sony fanboys will go to play down Forza 3 is ASTONISHING.

"Here is REAL "realism"

http://generationdreamteam....
Agree(31) | Disagree(13) | "

They are scared sh1tless. Those GT pics looks NO BETTER than Forza, period.

Except Forza is going to have more features and customization.

saint_john_paul_ii5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

@All Time Greatness

all i see is "Page Not Displayed" on my browser. thats pretty realstic all right.

heres the thing, GT5 is a game that our creator, God. it was acutally made on the on the 2nd week after the he rested on the first day of the second week. No game can contend with God's Creation. Take it by me, the Pope, the man who talks for God on Earth. now go in peace my brother. in the name of father, the son, the Holy spirit, amen.

theEnemy5447d ago

The graphics are indeed close to real-life.

But can the gameplay keep up ?

360 have Forza 3

and we got GT5

everybody happy.

Arnon5447d ago

You're not speechless. If you stfu, then you're speechless.

Also, did it ever occur to anyone that the Gran Turismo 5 screen shots are also touched up a bit? Or is it the fact that Sony are the saints and they don't do any sort of thing? I've played Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. It does not look anywhere near that level of 16x AA.

By the way, I would think impersonating the pope would be the biggest sin of them all. :x

bnaked5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Even GT5P is the technical better game..

1280*720 = 921600 px (forza 3)
1280*1080 = 1382400 px (GT5P)

So the PS3 can handle 50% more pixels and yes, if there are 1080 lines, than it is 1080p.. its just in narrowed 4:3 and you should know, that the horizontal lines are the most important, especially for racing games..

The cars in GT5 have more polygons, and there are twice as many cars on the track than in Forza3..

All in 60fps, thats a technical feat.. And that on awesome looking tracks like London..

And forza 3: 30 fps only in cocckpit view! You should hope that they fix that untill the release..

@Arnon
OMG, you are defending that guy? LMAO
Wahahah.. Come on.. ^^

SolidAhmed5447d ago

i have found 12 out of 14 from my first try.

likedamaster5447d ago

Forza 3 might look better than GT5 and even real life but I want it to be boring, featureless, and lifeless like GT5P... If not I won't be getting Forza 3.

Shepherd 2145447d ago

notice also how the screenshotsfor the cars from GT are farther away than the screenshots for Forza 3. That makes GT's pics look better. Forzas pics are in your face and they still look amazing.

phosphor1125447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

The game looks GREAT, but for a game that has almost gone gold, it doesn't look realistic as everyone puts it out to be.

http://i735.photobucket.com...

You guys talk about the jaggies and such of GT5P, yes, it has some noticeable areas, but it has a 2x MSAA when 1080p (4x MSAA @ 720p) but GT5P was a build from 2007. Prologue went gold in mid/late 07. Forza 3 is 2 years ahead of GT5P assuming it will go gold around September/October. We can't start comparing GT5 to Forza 3, when only a trailer for GT5 has been shown.

To be honest. Forza 3 doesn't have me sold. I have been playing Simbin's games since the original GT Racing game. GT: FIA GT Racing was the first time I played a sim racer besides Gran Turismo that blew me away. The physics is top notch, and the closest thing to it is GT which is still unrivaled right under SimBin's creations. The main reason why GT still has me tight is because up until GTR Evolution, their graphics have been lacking, and once they reached those GT4 levels, they made my computer hitch at times that were crucial to a race. Also, their games are really small in comparison to the Gran Turismo series.

Yes, I love the PINPOINT precise customization that comes with their games, but GT tops the content with almost that same level of customization and physics. Until I get my hands on Forza 3 (I've played the others through most of the games) I have yet to be convinced that Forza 3 is the "definitive" racing game. It really doesn't help that Turn 10 is running their mouths like there is no tomorrow.

Why can't we just reserve the judgment of comparing both series until BOTH are released? Mk?

TheRealSpy025447d ago

the point is to show how good forza 3 looks. not to get ps3 fanboys in a tizzy because they are somehow threatened. nobody is denying that GT looks amazing. just think forza looks pretty incredible too.

why are some of you so insecure? your mom forget you at the grocery store when you were a baby? how about you just stop taking sides in EVERYTHING related to console gaming and just acknowledge that both companies are capable of putting out some pretty fantastic products?

Arnon5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Why would I defend him? I'm telling you to stfu. Is that such a difficult task? You're trolling, and that is a strict violation to the gamer zone of N4G.

@Phosphor

Lolol so what you're trying to show us, is that very small fragments of the tracks that you will NEVER see look a little off when in motion. I'd take that over a jaggie car anyday.

http://i162.photobucket.com...

shadow27975447d ago

Wow those screenshots are very impressive, the Forza guys clearly put in a lot of hard work to improve their visuals and it shows. I wish they hadn't come out and said that they not only have the definitive racing game this generation (which, while arrogant, is at least backed by reviews) but they also said they had the best looking game this generation (which I believe is false, at least when it comes to car models, environments is a whole other story).

The one thing I notice in all of the Forza pics is that the cars don't seem to be made out of the right material. The reflectivity is off, or something. It's still extremely impressive, but it screams "videogame!" or at least "CGI!". Polyphony seems to have the reflectivity right, and I have trouble telling in-game from real-life (environments not included).

I took the above quiz and got a 13 out of 14 on my first try, but it was extremely difficult. If I didn't have prior knowledge of the game (Main menu backdrops and ribbon boundaries) I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference. A lot of them would have been coin flips.

You're fooling yourself if you think that quiz was easy. Simply judging by the car, you'd have a difficult time discerning the difference. On the other hand, I simply cannot say the same for Forza. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it really is the truth.

That said, I really want to get my hands on a Forza game. I've been slightly disappointed with GT since GT2. Unfortunately, my copy of Forza 2 is scratched way beyond any hope of playability (It came second-hand with my Xbox 360).

I'll probably be picking Forza 3 up when it comes out, not for it's graphics (which are very impressive), but for it's gameplay (which is the whole point of playing games, right?)

CWMR5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

-I have put a good amount of time in on Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and I agree with the Forza devs about Forza 3 being the best looking driving sim. Maybe you don't agree, but in my opinion Forza 3 does look better than GT5P and until we see GT5 gameplay there is no doubt in my mind that Forza 3 is currently the best looking driving sim.-

-The reflectivity does look right to me and looks close to perfect. In fact, I think the cars in Forza 3 look better and more realistic than the cars in GT5P. Everything in GT5P looks kind of flat or somehow slightly lacking in detail, including the cars. The car paint jobs in GT5P look just a little too flat and not quite reflective enough. My brother paints cars for a living and I see a lot of new paint jobs and Forza 3's cars look more correct to me.

phosphor1125447d ago

I'm talking to you Arnon

And in general to all the fanboys.

STOP COMPARING GAMES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN RELEASED.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COMPARE FORZA 3 (2009) TO GT5P (2007).

Arnon5447d ago

Durr idk.. Possibly because Gran Turismo 5 doesn't really exist from what we've seen. And all everyone does is brag about the damn prologue game. So I think I have full right to compare it.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5446d ago

Amazing how the SDF fear this game so much. "Those are bullshots, their comparing CGI with Forza 3" LOL they cant tell the difference which is a good sign for Forza 3 and it's GT5 pwnage. They got the excuse book out and are working overtime trying to debunk Forza 3 and failing hard.

popup5443d ago

Ref my prev comment.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

The screenshots released so far have been from 'Photo Mode'

grrrrr!

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LONEWOLF2315447d ago

Ohh wow look at the last report.

"this is just a stupid flamebait xbox fanboy site."

This is a stupid reason to report it, its not good when you have xbox fans post news BUT its fine when Sony fanboys do it. Next time post something more Coherent rather than just "stupid xbox fanboy flamebait!"

Seriously man some of you need some time off of this site cause your hatred over non-sony consoles are getting the better of you.

Real Gambler5447d ago

Let see:

Only two articles: (One pro Forza, the other one against GT5).

First one: Poor guy took hours to find picture of real cars and Forza cars. Why? It's in race that you see a difference now. Being able to simulate a real car with decent accuracy, picture wise, as been already done years ago. It's amazing somebody would spend precious time doing this today...

Second article: Poor guy took hours to find pictures with bad shadow in an unreleased version of GT5.

So basically, you can call this a website if you want, I call it a guy with no life! Poor soul. He should be playing games instead.

Now that I've said this, both Forza and GT5 are awesome. When I'll be playing them, I won't spent my life looking at measly details. I'll just enjoy them.

evrfighter5447d ago

it doesn't matter what it is. It's just a comparison between RL and Forza 3. No ps3 involved. So get over it. If they were fishing for hits it would have been yet another gt5 vs. forza 3 comparison

KingKionic 5447d ago (Edited 5447d ago )

Damn...Forza 3 is Sick!

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Cant wait till forza 3 is release.

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Forza Motorsport players slam devs for using 14 year old car model

Throughout its marketing campaign Forza Motorsport has been described as being “built from the ground up,” but some players are skeptical after discovering a reused car model that first appeared in Forza Motorsport 3.

Flawlessmic220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

yep been playing it all day and the newer car models look ok at best and the older models looks downright ugly and out place. im playing on pc at 4k with everything on ultra with dlls performance mode and the cars just look completey off, even the paints looks off, gt7 on ps5 shits on the car models here and its not even close, espcially paint and materials wise!!

its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesnt get close to living up to what it should be.

i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind.

the fuel and pit stop additions to forza are just surface level additions so they could say hey we did it, i am yet to see a meaningful incorporation of either one and the systems that would facilitate it being genuine are not there.

I cant control my power to fuel ratio during the race like i can in gt7, there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy, not that pitting is necesarry at all.

rain doesnt cause a slippery surface or aqua plaining nor does it tell you just how wet the track is like gt7 which informs you if inters or full wets are needed, no weather map, nothing.

its really just shinear version of previous forza, if you want proper sim racing where actual strategy comes in to play with longer races, with real pitt stops and having to manage your actual fuel effectively during the race then this game isnt it, go get gt7.

if you want a really simple and basic sim racer then this is for you.

majorly dissapointed, i thought this was the one game from MS that would hit all the right notes, in reality built from the ground up for next gen was a bullshit line and and its not even better than a cross gen game released a year and half ago.

MTRNYC220d ago

One big thing I feel makes GT7 so much better is that they surface mapped all the tracks so they have actual imperfections which means that sometimes the fastest path is slightly off the expected path because you have to avoid the imperfections to maintain traction.

GT7 is by far the more realistic racing game. It's kind of funny because they claim they reworked the whole driving and physics system to compete with GT Sport and Forza's not even close to as realistic as even GT Sport was and GT7 is way better than GT Sport.

Stanjara220d ago

Excellent write up.
I follow SuperGT and in the preview of the game he was not impressed with improvements.
Said it felt the same as FM7.

The whole time I was searching for ray tracing in race and it was not present.

Built from ground up my ass.

(Yes yes I know there is a performance mode and a visual mode I know)

P.s. You can choose your starting grid position. WTF is that in a sim race?

Flawlessmic220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

@mtrnyc

its all the little details, you see the track evolve in gt7 with the rubbers marks, and the marbles from the tyres start building up off the racing line on the side, you can actually see the tyre deformation when racing an f1 car for instance.

honestly, im actually shocked at how much better and more advanced gt7 is than this game, this is literally just a surface level sim racer, it would make a fantastic entry point for someone new to sim racers but my lord does it pale in comparison to gt7 where it counts

@stanjara

yep picking your starting spot is dumb AF for this type of game

dumahim220d ago

"there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy"

Wait, really? They don't have the distance or timing splits options for the HUD anymore that's been there from the start, after they add pit stops, when you'd really need something like that?

Flawlessmic220d ago

@dumahin

i will correct myself slightly just opened the game to see if it was option and you can turn it on for single player races, it was set to multiplayer only but again if the races were really gonna need it they wouldve had it set as on but no the races are like i said simple surface level sim racing.

but to answer the question correctly yes it actually does have the option, you just need to turn it on

Mr Logic220d ago

So...you're rendering at 1080p. Much wow

eagle21220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

And what about the loading times in Forza? They sure are super fast in Gran Turismo 7 (PS5). :)

outsider1624220d ago

"i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind."

This! I really hated this for every race it's always a running start and always last. And we all know the reason for that which is the bad ai.

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yeahokwhatever220d ago

"its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesn't get close to living up to what it should be" <-- Spot on. I've been playing since the second it launched and I'm a little disappointed too. You're totally right about the paint..its whacky how bad it is visually. I have pretty damn good hardware and the frame pacing is totally jacked up. I wanted a close-to-GT7 game on my PC, unfortunately Forza is the furthest from GT that its been. :-(

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isarai221d ago

Reusing assets is ok, but 14yr old model, when it's a hero model? That's just lame.

MTRNYC220d ago

“built from the ground up,”

This isn't even the oldest models, they are recycling, there is stuff dating back to the 360 in the game.

Everything is all lies with these guys.

Enjoy the battle pass and the DLC to get cars and tracks in your live service b.s. game, meanwhile we'll be getting them for free in GT7.

outsider1624220d ago

Built from ground up for the Series S most probably. I mean that's 75% of the audience right there.

Father__Merrin220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

Forza motorsport doesn't have that traditional campaign but rather just tick box races. Most reviewers are omitting this

Flawlessmic220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

i dont mind how they have done it but, theres not a whole lot of content race wise which is a let down, and the car RPG thing sucks balls.

i unlock the same things in the same order everytime and make the same upgrades in the same order everytime.

rather than being able to look at the strengths and weakness of the car im using and put my credits into upgrading the weakess im stuck upgrading parts i dont really need cause thats all i can do and by the time i do unlock what i really wanted, lo and behold the 5 race series is over and its on to a new car to rinse and repeat my unlocking and applying my upgrades

IRetrouk220d ago

I remember this being a massive negative for another game a couple gens ago👀

dumahim220d ago

On one hand, that was kind of a bigger deal since the old models didn't have an interior so it was all just a black silhouette inside. But on the other hand, they made no claims that it was built from the ground up and were clear there were premium models that did have the full interior and some without.

IRetrouk220d ago

I agree, it was jarring and not needed in my opinion, but it didn't make the game bad or worse, yet that was the impression around here at the time if you remember.

yeahokwhatever220d ago

i uh....liked the black interiors. I got the perspective without the distraction. I wish it was an option.

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10 of the best racing games of all-time

Paul writes - "Looking back over a lifetime of playing games, and racing games in particular, I am moved to consider which were the best that I have ever played. I'm going to be platform blind on this, largely because I didn't have an Xbox until the 360 came out, so many games I played were on the other consoles that were available. In order that I played them, here are the racing games that have had a lasting impact on me and 10 of the best racing games of all-time."

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gammaray131778d ago (Edited 1778d ago )

this guy is an idiot need for speed was never on the c64 it was first on the 3DO in 1994

Retroman1778d ago

Correct. started on the 3DO.
To bad NFS fell from Grace.
used to buy every nfs title and GT
Now only GT NFS became crapfest.

Kados1778d ago

No particular order:

iRacing
rFactor
rFactor 2
Assetto Corsa
Dirt Rally
F1 2019
Project Cars
Project Cars 2
Gran Turismo 5
Forza 7

Brutus831778d ago

Till today, i still think the best driving game was TDU2

level 3601778d ago

I loved Colin McRae Rally, got addicted to that game for a long time.
DriveClub I highly rate as very good and enjoyable.

Profchaos1778d ago (Edited 1778d ago )

Colin McRae dirt Rally in VR was so good I hope you got a chance to try it

sampsonon1778d ago (Edited 1778d ago )

Yeah, it was a good game. SOO immersive. too bad it had that bad launch or it would be still going strong.

goodwin1778d ago

Where's Porsche Unleashed?

gammaray131776d ago

I think you might mean Porsche Challenge on the PS1 as that was amazing

goodwin1776d ago

I mean Need for Speed 5: Porsche Unleashed

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The Forza Franchise Has Exceeded $1 Billion in Retail Sales

Xbox: "Today, we’re excited to share a major milestone – as of December 2016, the Forza franchise has exceeded $1 billion in retail sales."

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Overload2646d ago

Pretty much expected regarding Forza Horizon 3 (selling 2.5M units). Good numbers compared to the previous iterations.

Gazondaily2646d ago

This is good news. The best racing franchise should be supported. Glad it is. #forzaplayers

Overload2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

Selling more than the previous versions would be good news.

"The best racing franchise should be supported."

It is, very much so.

Gazondaily2646d ago

I know. 2.5 million copies isn't bad at all. Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too.

I wonder if there will be a racer this gen that comes close critically. If so, we're truly in for a treat.

Overload2646d ago

It is amazing watching sales matter and not matter all at the same time. Same with what they reflect.

Gazondaily2646d ago

Quality matters more than sales. Always. And that's why Forza is at the top of the game. Horizon 3 deserves those sales because we need more games like it.

Kingthrash3602646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

Great to see some good news from forza! Retailing 1 billion bucks is a pretty good milestone. I remember gta5 did it In like a week or so. It may have taken forza longer to reach this milestone and with 10 games...but hey not many have reached that milestone.

Overload2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality.

"Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too."

You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?

Gazondaily2646d ago

"@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality. "

Lets be honest- frankly terrible games have seen some strong sales. Comparatively drastically weaker racers for instance have seen even higher sales.

"You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?"

I'm not all over the place at all. Weren't you the one downplaying the sales previously? See my link below. Its not rocket science mate. The game's quality is great. Sometimes the sales numbers dont do a great game justice. We've seen that time and time again in this industry.

Forza Horizon 3 is an excellent game and the highest rated racer this gen. Now it deserves great sales doesn't it? Its very simple.

Overload2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

@Septic

Let's get real here. 2.5M is great for Forza Horizon 3, but it's not that impressive overall. GT Sport will most likely do that very quickly. Driveclub sold 2M and that had a terrible launch.

1B sounds like a big number, but then you realise GT5 did approximately half a billion at retail alone.

Unspoken2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

Sony fanboys out in force today!

Looks like your down play is back firing.

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Brazz2646d ago

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's" right now Forza is number one hands down and other races need to work hard to get at Forza level...
I wonder if Polyphony digital will start to fight back whit GT, cause right now Forza is killing it.

Artemidorus2646d ago

The best? It's not April Fool's yet.

EpicZinger2646d ago

Best racing franchise is already heavily supported. More than 70 million sales to be precise.

corroios2646d ago

Both of your inicial comments are stealth trolling. Why cant you be happy with the news. Then you say others troll...

You already know that when another game arrived it will surpass those numbers maybe in the first 24 hours....

XanderZane2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

@Overload
This isn't about GT Sports or Driveclub. You always need to bring some Sony games into a conversation that has nothing to do with them. Forza games have always sold the 2-4 million even when it was on the XBox 360 with over 87 million units sold. It has it's own fanbase that buy it regularly. No one cares what GT Sports or DriveClub sold. They aren't even in the article. All you want to do is TROLL XBox One articles.

@Unspoken
Yes. Trolling Overlord has returned to another XBox One article when he most likely doesn't even own one. He was doing fine until he decided to bring Sony exclusives racers into the mix. He didn't even go for Project Cars or Need For Speed games? lmao!!

Lime1232646d ago

Fantastic numbers for FH3! Already at halfway of GT6 - the worst selling mainline Gran Turismo game.

rainslacker2646d ago

9 releases, over how many years? Retail sales over 1 billion, is anywhere between 16-20 million copies depending on the selling price(not all being $60).

It's great it makes money, don't get me wrong, but with the number of releases it's had, for how long it's been an established franchise, it's not really that remarkable.

Gazondaily2646d ago

Well if the sales don't impress you, perhaps the game itself will. For those who haven't played it, you're missing out on of the best racers ever.

Kribwalker2646d ago

It is a fantastic racing game, even if you aren't a huge fan of racing games, it's a lot of fun. I will keep supporting this series. Not the biggest sim racing fan so the mainline games I usually pass on, but I've bought FH2 and 3 and got the first one with games with gold and they're great

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rainslacker2645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

Sorry if my putting it into perspective hurt people's feelings.

I'm glad it's making money, and the most recent game is excellent, but 1 billion over 9 releases is kind of commonplace for a moderately successful franchise.

@Dealwithit

If Forza did all that, I'd be impressed.

But for the most part, I'd not be gushing over the sales of any game, with 9 releases, that only made 1 billion at retail. At least not in the way some people here are trying to make it into being the best thing ever and indicative of the game being a high end money maker which somehow is indicative of it's quality, which is a separate matter altogether.

My numbers are sound, and while I find it wonderful that it's a successful franchise, I think too many people are looking at the number, without actually thinking about the rest of the picture.

But, if it makes you all feel better, I'll give you a freebie. 1 billion in retail sales doesn't include digital. So since you all think that Xbox somehow has a 2:1 digital vs retail attach rate, then you can run with Forza having made 3 billion.

Gazondaily2645d ago

"I'm glad it's making money"

You sure? You sure don't sound it lmao. Go play the game. It's wicked. Downplaying the sales aside, this a classic and the best racer this gen.

bouzebbal2645d ago

at the same time when you see what x1 owners have to play....
but yeah, something for you guys to justify the purchase,huh?

MyDietEqualsGames2645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

Lol. The best. Much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. There are a few good ones out there, including GT, however this is Forza's moment, so I will try not to take away from it. With that said, Congratulations, Turn10!

IamTylerDurden12645d ago

Overload

Driveclub sold over 3 million. It sold nearly 2.5m physical and with the f2p version it did huge digital numbers. DC is a 3m seller, and well deserved.

Septic

It's funny how u think Driveclub is a terrible game bc of the disastrous launch. If u really were the gaming aficionado u claim you'd know that Driveclub is a different game now. A dramatically improved game and a great racer. Don't act like your not referring to Driveclub in your comments here. U even posted on the PS4 N4G group that Driveclub sucked and Forza is way better. Now i realize it was this article that motivated u to make that comment.

LexHazard792645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

They mad GT isnt the best racer anymore. So how else to get over the frustration than attacking Xbox gamers with bs...Lol.

rainslacker2645d ago

@Septic

Which one? There are nine games in the franchise. The topic here is about the franchise. If it were about FH3 making one billion at retail, then I'd be thouroughly impressed.

I have played FH3, and several other games in the franchise. But what does that matter to the point I"m trying to make that people are gushing over it, using it as an example of how great FH3 is, while ignoring the fact that it equates to around 112 million on average per release. Is 112 million per game really that amazing?

It's not poor, but as I said, it's not remarkable,or worthy of the correlations to quality that some people are making.

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GtR35olution2646d ago

Lol. I like the nice wording of saying the forza franchise is the best selling this generation when there has been a forza game every year since the xbox one release and there'll be a new game(forza 7) this year. Gran turismo sport will outsell them all and be the best driving simulator.

Gazondaily2646d ago

I'd be very impressed if GT Sport scored higher than Horizon 3. Different types of games I know but would be impressive nonetheless.

GT Sport stands the best chance of dethroning Forza Motorsport and taking the crown though. I like what I've seen so far. Has improved dramatically from what was shown at first. Sales wise also, it will definitely dominate. That's a no brainer.

Neonridr2646d ago

haven't sales of Gran Turismo been declining with each release though? You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales..

Overload2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

"You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales.."

Gran Turismo 6 Passes 5 Million Sales, Series Climbs to 76.8 Million
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Gran Turismo 6 launched on PS3 at the same time as the PS4, which was a mistake in my opinion.

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GtR35olution2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

Gran turismo 6 sold over 6 million copies and gran turismo 5 sold over 10 million copies according to sony. There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

People who normally talk about review scores and menu system when comparing forza and gran turismo should actually be talking about the games content and which is actually a better driving simulator. Gran turismo games are made to be as realistic as possible to where the cars in the games try to simulate the driving physics of the real life ones. Forza games normally has cars with characteristics that are unlike realistic ones and youll see silly things like stock vehicles ets being 10 seconds faster than they are in real life.

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Elit3Nick2646d ago

There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

I don't see why this would make it any less of a simulator than GT, especially considering that engine tuning is a big part of GT as well. Being able to race a large variety of cars together is part of Forza's success, some people don't like being restricted to certain cars, and it's extremely rewarding working on a car to make it competitive. I'm sure GT Sport's reliance on eSports and restricted car choices will turn off some GT fans, but that's the kind of niche Sony is selling it for, while GT7 will be the more traditional GT game.

TheCommentator2646d ago

Maybe GT will go back to it's roots, so you can simulate driving on an oval with your analog sticks rubber-banded together! GT: Port is already halfway to it's roots anyways, at least judging by the graphics and AI, so anythings' possible.

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darthv722646d ago

I like both GT and Forza. That has to account for something?

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IAmLoki2646d ago

Congrats to Forza and Microsoft for becoming one of the world's most successful driving game franchises. The Forza Horizon series is my favorite with beautiful open world racing, jaw dropping visuals, the best controls, and amazing racing tracks, jam packed with intense action.

mcstorm2646d ago

I agree and I hope the sales for it goes up. Enjoyed 1 and 2 but for me 3 seems to set the bar again for open world racing games.

20live2646d ago

not sure why you are being down voted , Forza Horizon 3 was epic

XanderZane2646d ago

The trolls on here are down voting because they think GT Sports will be better, even though it's not out yet. I hope GT Sport is better then GT5 & GT6. Those games made many fans leave the series. Polyphony needs to come up with something new for GT Sport. I'll continue to enjoy Forza 6 and Forza Horizon 3 while we wait.

XanderZane2646d ago

LOL!! Don't believe me with GT5 vs GT6 sales? Look again. Keep down voting me when I'm right. Sales going down, down, down with GT ever since GT3. Maybe Overlord can damage control this without having to mention an XBox game.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GT3 sales - 14.98 million worldwide
GT4 sales - 11.66 million worldwide
GT5 sales - 10.70 million worldwide.
GT6 sales - 3.32 million worldwide
Over 7 million gamers suddenly stopped buying Gran Turismo series after GT5? This is on a game console with over 87 million sold.

edeprez2646d ago

I finished FH3, but it really wasn't that great. I really loved FH2, probably my favorite racing game. It's just a copy/paste of FH2, most of the races feel similar to each other, most of the cars are behind a paywall, and the showcases were a letdown for me. Also who wants to customize and name every race/bucket list challenge, i would have been happier with more sets of challenges like in FH 2.
Anyway, i may have ruined the experience for myself by replaying FH2 before launch, so maybe I'm way off base here, i just didn't get any of that "epic" that you noticed.

MRMagoo1232645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

@xanda

Sony announced gt6 sold over 5 million so you pulling vg numbers and being wrong makes you look desperate and stupid. Even at 5 million it's double forza horizon 3 sales. 😂

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Liqu1d2645d ago

Lol at Xander using vgchartz when official numbers already exist.

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ShadowKnight2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

I wonder and curious if half of those sell numbers is from PC players. Probably not it's probably not selling to well on PC

Kiwi662646d ago

How can half the sales be from PC when only FH3 & Forza Apex are the only two from the whole series that are on Xb/PC

TheHorseTamer2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

1/2 pn PC? Haha, that was a good laugh

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game4funz2646d ago

So what? Are you saying there's nothing to be happy about with expected sales?
On that note anyone can say that about any game.

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shiva12646d ago

Tell me one thing though.... Would getting 2.5 mil sales on ps4 for half arsed game is difficult? There is no racing game on ps4 that meets forza and the ps4 gamers would just bite irrespective of quality.... Just like NMS. Having 50mil sales but still not a single game is as big as overwatch, GTAV, FFXV..... Talk about that attach rate and quality. There was this talk about UC4 goty and now i hear nothing....

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jokerisalive2646d ago

A great series. Good to see it hit this milestone.

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aaronaton2646d ago

As a quick comparison, the Gran Tursimo series (as of 2015) has sold over 76 million. Lets say the average game is £30, even though GT5 cost me £50..
If my maths are corrects, the GT series has made at least £22.8 billion. GT sport can only add to this. Plus this is GBP and not Dollars.

OsafuneKatana2646d ago

GT will always be racing king. Forza is lil piece of shit in front of it. :)

danny8182646d ago

its alot younger than GT jackass

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XanderZane2646d ago

It wasn't king last gen. Don't cry. It's only a game.

LandCruiser2646d ago

@xanderzane

It was king and has always been. Don't cry because truth is bitter

ShadowKnight2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

Hilarious 😂😂😁

Raiden2646d ago

@Osafunekatan
I would love to see you race some of my Xbox friends, you call Forza a little piece of shit 💩, it would have been nice for you to prove your skill from your GT experience, I have witness my friends at our local game outlet crush so many other racers, all they say Forza made them better racers. I would love to see and upload the outcome on on this site or YOUTUBE. Let me if you are interested, GT skilled racer VS Forza skilled race epic showdown

Bruh2646d ago

Wish my mom would've let me come on the internet and interact with strangers when I was 10

ONESHOTV22646d ago

OsafuneKatana--- king of what arcade racers ? maybe it is but sure it's not being a sim

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Edito2645d ago

I agree with you that GT will always be the King it has a story while forza was created to meet or exceed GT Standards... but i can't agree with the Sh*tty part, while i prefer GT all the way i think Forza is a very good game...

IamTylerDurden12645d ago

Xander

GT absolutely was king last gen, are you joking? Did you hear about this game they call GT5? It did pretty well...

Last gen alone GT sold over 20m. That's nearly what Forza has sold in its entirety.

LexHazard792645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

I've come to realize that theres no rational in people who only play on one console. Because that series might be all they know. To them its the best thing ever. Yet just from looking at reviews GT has been on a steady decline.

GT hasnt been King of racing since PS2..Lol. Forza is the King Slayer.
Their Motorsports series is great and well you already know about Horizon. Even PGR was better than GT.

Even Driveclub is better than GT!! Yes I said it.

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slate912646d ago

Good thing this article is about Forza and not GT, or you may have a valid comment.

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XanderZane2646d ago

If this was a GT Sport article, the trolls would still find a way to bring an XBox game into the article. lol!!

JasonKCK2645d ago

TitaniumRx you are the problem here

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JasonKCK2645d ago

Ps4andPcRocks And you are the troll here

again part of the problem.

And apparently I have triggered you before

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343_Guilty_Spark2646d ago

Not only are you trolling but your "maths" are wrongs.

76 million * $50 = 3.8 billion

Using a more conservative number, say the average cost of the game over its lifetime was $30

76 million * $30 = 2.28 billion

Now troll elsewhere. This is about Forza not GT (which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza).

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343_Guilty_Spark2646d ago

@Basurabox

More trolling.

GT:

More time on the market
Much larger Sony base
Using average cost over lifetime $30 sales are 2.28 billion vs 1 billion.

I'd say sales are pretty even.

Lime1232646d ago

GT has beem out twice as Forza, still last mainline Gran Turismo game was Gran Turismo 6 and last mainline Forza game was Forza 6.

?

rainslacker2646d ago

Why such a low average lifetime price? It's probably closer to $45, since half of a games sales tend to be within the first year...particularly games with recurring incremental releases. Within a year, most games of this nature typically are still priced around $30. Anything after that is probably inconsequential to the average.

Anyhow, at 76 million * $45 = 3.4 billion.

Kind of pointless to speculate though. MS provided full retail sales, so we'd only have to guess at the number of actual units sold to derive the average price, and then forget it anyways, because 1 billion is still one billion dollars.

Stogz2646d ago

Forza has what though, 9 releases? GT has like 7. How does the time on the market matter?

joshljr2646d ago

@Stogz

I think time on the market matters because you're more likely to skip an iteration if releases are frequent.

_-EDMIX-_2645d ago

How is he trolling? Yes, GT has a larger fan base clearly because it is the preferred game.

More time on the market is irrelevant have you forgotten that Gran Turismo 5 literally sold over 11 million units?

At the time of Gran Turismo 5 release it to literally out sold every single Forza game in existence combined!!!!!!

Is Medal of Honor outselling Call of Duty? Well that's older than Call of Duty right?

Seriously buddy get over it , GT is the preferred series and PD always does a good job.

LexHazard792645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

@ edmix,

Lol...Forza(only Forza Horizon 3 wasnt and I dont count Apex) and GT are exclusives. So being the "preferred racer" is relative to what console you own. So if you own Playstation most likely Gran Turismo is the best. And Xbox, Forza. Not hard to understand...

And are you comparing Forza to Medal of Honor? Forza gets better reviews than GT and is relevant. Where Medal of Honor now...
We'll see at end of yr what racer is better. Forza 7 or GT Sports(Prolouge)..
Go ahead and press that button on the right.

thisismyaccount2645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

GT launched 1998
19 years old with 6 main games + 1x PSP game and 5 "bigger paid demos called prologues"
76,000,000 x $30 = $2,280,000,000,000 (12 entries at 6.3mill. copies sold each)

Versus

Forza launched in 2005
soon 12 years old with 6 main games and 3x spin offs (total of 9 games).
22,500,000 x $30 = $675,000,000 (9 entries at 2.5mill. copies sold each)

Far from that $1bill. they claim. They either sold more copies or the avg. price (revenue) is higher than $30 per sold copy. At $30 they would have sold about 33mill. copies (< highly unlikely since 2015, to sell 13 mill. copies). So, yeah the avg. price hast to be higher than the $30 for each sold copy.

old comparison done in 2015 https://imgur.com/a/1ASyv

12x 2 = 19 ("which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza")

#YABADATMATH

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Raiden2645d ago

Look, who cares, MS/XBOX CONGRATULATIONS.
GT has been around longer, but has produced less, every year we get a new and improved FORZA either motorsport or horizon every year, this makes it very hard for GT to out match, because when GT improves it's take them 2yrs to improve as with Forza, well every year and there is improvements. But both games have there place, just enjoy it and don't be sad that your favourite game is not the headliner, just play 🎭 your game.

ChrisChambers2645d ago

With the technology available to you there's no way you should've inflated GT sales by $20 billion. If you're an adult you should be embarrassed. If you're still in school you need to pay attention in math class, maybe stay after school sometime and have your teacher show you how to use a calculator.

Yes GT has sold a lot of copies, but don't let fanboyism turn you into an idiot like the 21 people that have agreed with you so far

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Gazondaily2646d ago

Sick achievement. Many people doubted the numbers:
http://n4g.com/news/1974704...

But looks like those are some noice sale numbers indeed.

Well deserved. Such a sick racer. Was playing it this weekend and aaaah. Feel sorry for all those missing out 😍

christocolus2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

Lol @ the comments on that link

The Forza Horizon series got me and my friends back into racing games. FH3 is just so good. I can't wait to see what the studio does next. Hopefully It will be a day one purchase just like FH3. PG and T10 are super talented. Congrats to all involved with the development of this game.

rainslacker2646d ago

Apparently playground is opening a new satellite studio to make open world games. I do think FH3 was some of their best work, and a really good racer. We get to play it at work, and they have the nice wheel set ups and stuff and it gets a lot of my time when I have no actual work to do.

I'd imagine their core studio is still going to be working on F:H though.

Featuring_Dante2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

that last line, you're really asking for it.
better watch out, that console war neutrality might be blown now.
How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?

Gazondaily2646d ago

LMao asking for what? All racing fans should experience the brilliance of Horizon 3. It's such an epic game. Have you played it?

Aloren2645d ago

"How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?"

That's a silly question. Because they like it better ? Cause it's getting better reviews ? Because no matter what the game is, some people will base their opinion on their personal taste rather than on some sponsorship deals ? See, like some put PES above Fifa, how dare they have their own preference!

Featuring_Dante2645d ago (Edited 2645d ago )

seriously though, if you disregard the FIA, you just proved you're a casual scrub who knows nothing about cars.
@Aloren which is why i said *OBJECTIVELY*

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zerocarnage2646d ago (Edited 2646d ago )

I don't usually like forza games, because I don't usually enjoy race games, but must say after my gamble on horizon 3 I'm more than 100% happy.

I'm a blood n guts game kinda lover, so this was a nice change.

I think there's really only a couple of race games out that can compete with forza, project cars and gran turismo. Need for speed I thought on some games was going in the rite direction and don't get me wrong now and again it can pull out a surprise game, but it's not consistent enough like forza.

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