How Microsoft stole the show at E3

CNET News: You can say what you want about Microsoft and its Xbox 360. But at this year's E3, it made the competition look foolish. And in the cutthroat business of video games, that's a major victory in and of itself.

Wake up, Nintendo and Sony. Microsoft has.

[Major_Tom]

C.net going schizo? They announced how Sony was by far the winner and now they're doing a 180?

I GOTS to get me sum of dat MICROSOFT MONEYS!

[Orange]

I don't think Don Reisinger has written an objective article yet. Whether there's truth in what he wrote or not, he's such a cheerleader for team green, i can't take anything he writes seriously. Look up his other columns.

I'm more interested in Kotaku's positive take on Natal vis-a-vis Burnout Paradise and negative take on Natal vis-a-vis the Breakout game.

[Montreafart]

Hahaha, they are so blind, they cant even see that the majority of gamers are now behind Sony.

All this negative shiat and money bribing is doing exactly the opposite of what they intend to do: they make people hate MS and the xbots even more.

[theKiller]

by showing a broken receiver that doesnt work properly with body movements// :)!!

even Cnet admitted sony won the show!! by the way Cnet is owned/cooperating with MS!

[getupahh]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Before i even go to the source i'm going to take a wild guess and say Don wrote this..

Edit: Haha.To predictable.Anytime you see "CNET" and lots of PS3/Nintendo bashing with an overflow of Microsoft ass kissing, you know it's good o'l don.

[Genesis5]

Does Cnet even live in the same world as the rest of us. The only thing MS stold this E3 was another multi plat game.

[Orange]

i wrote the same thing in the open zone. this guys is the biggest MS cheerleader.

[vhero]

Yeah biased crap TBH I thought MS did do good as did Sony.. Nintendo did terrible as usual but nothing this E3 was really that great.. I think the PSP Go leaking really didn't help Sony though.. E3 2009 has been a massive disappointment for me.

[darthv72]

Didnt cnet just give sony the nod for best show the other day?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

darth I was going to say the same thing.

Didn't see all these whiners in that article... no coincidence.

[BRG9000]

How does one "steal" a multiplatform game? I don't get this logic that a game being available on both consoles somehow lessens the experience.

Now if they had taken games previously announced as multiplatform and said "Surprise! Now it's only on Xbox!" I could see the complaint.

[Natsu89]

"CNET News: You can say what you want about Microsoft and its Xbox 360. But at this year's E3, it made the competition look foolish. And in the cutthroat business of video games, that's a major victory in and of itself.

Wake up, Nintendo and Sony. Microsoft has. "

WTH is this? look foolish? There was only one thing i didn't know at the ms conference and that was Halo Reach! And now remember what sony presented and here i mean the unnknown stuf(yeah you can count the motion controler too as we didn't know how it looks like or how it works but we did know about natal). There is a lots more that sony offered! "major victory" you made me laugh at this point. You don't what this mean! And we all know in 2009 it was MS who was sleeping.

[nightfallfilms]

Sure didn't see all the Sony Fanboy crybabies in this article from CNET.
http://www.n4g.com/events_e...

[OmarJA]

By announce a game going multiplatform, upcoming games we already know about & steal ideas from Sony :

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

@Darth

One person's opinion doesn't reflect an entire site.
Now, i haven't seen the the other article from CNET about PS3 at E3
So i can't comment about that.

@Crab

Thing is, Donny boy here is like the un-official captain of the cheer leading squad for Microsoft.I for one ain't whining.I'm laughing at what a predictable SOB Don is.

If their's Sony/Nintendo Bashing from CNET 99.9% of the time it's him.

And the "Blu-ray is dieing" oh man..that's all this guy dreams about..

[menoyou]

Wow this guy is on crack. "Wake up Sony and Nintendo" and "Microsoft made the competition look foolish"????

Everyone agrees Sony at LEAST did as good as Microsoft, most agree Sony did better, even some guy who wrote on CNET agrees Sony did best LOL.

This guy is as ridiculous as Kotaku.

[Monchichi025]

The other article you guys were reffering to was just a blog on Cnet. It wasn't anything official.

Huh???
What's to disagree with? It clearly say "The Gadget BLOG" on the top of that article!!! Silly kids!

[johnnywit]

I didn't really watch E3 but this makes the 4th site that was impressed with MS conference. Gamepro, 1up, G4TV, and now CNET all thought MS did a great job. I'm waiting for someone on here to post news of how terrible MS conference was but I haven't seen it yet. I guess either these sites above are bias or MS did indeed have a good conference. I don't know if they stole the show or anything like that but so far it seems they have done pretty good.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

@1.12: This is the same thing. Dons blog is "The Digital Home" and the other Sony one was "Crave". He just bills it as a blog while Don doesn't. But they are the same thing and link the same way from Cnet.

[nightfallfilms]

@ThatCanadienguy420 the funny thing is all of you people talking about him being a MS fanboy should look in the mirror because you are probably just like him. Of course most people will not see this because we all know that fanboys are blind and ignorant.

[XxZxX]

I believe that guy only interest in XBOX 360 and nothing else.
Tunnel vision.

[PtRoLLFacE]

well ign shows something similar

so that means ign is kissing MS as$ too ummm ?

http://e3.ign.com/ take a look a the chart

[StephanieBBB]

The trailer is fake as pamela anderssons titts. Need proof?

- Tony hawk himself saying that it doesn't work with a "air" board.
http://multiplayerblog.mtv....

- The Project Natal trailer. (Check at 1.53 min)
http://www.gametrailers.com...

How in the h3ll is that possible? 1:1 ratio too? Pure bull. You guys are getting spoon feed with it and doesn't even think for yourself...

[Aquanox]

When he talks about making them look foolish he's probably refering to project Natal. How in the world do you think those Sony presenters felt when they saw Microsoft's Demo knowing they will have to announce their motion sense controller afterwards?

The Sony controller is cool an innovative to some extent but there was nowhere as groundbreaking as Natal in terms of innovation. In short, Sony took Wii mote and Eye toy, two previously released products and "integrated" the idea into one. Microsoft did something that just had never seen before, 3D motion recognition in games? It would've sounded unreal just one week ago.

Most major media sites are agreeing on that MS won the show. I hope this serves as a lesson for those naysayers saying MS had nothing for 2009.

[Pika-pie]

I agree that Microsofts show generated the most buzz with Natal and they deffinatly had their best show ever.

But in the eyes of the gamer here and now... It was Sonys show again with their stella line up.

[Monchichi025]

Sony fans can cry all they want but the mass perception is that MS won because they created the most buzz and set themselves up to win another Christmas season.

EVERY news organization was talking about the Natal the following day! It was that groundbreaking that they were talking about it everywhere!
YES, Sony had a very good presentation for us Gamers...but that's the thing, only for us gamers. At this point of the game we don't really matter in terms of sales because we already own systems and have chosen our alliances. Now the battle to be fought is for the mass market. the people who care about things like Natal.

In terms of us Hardcore Gamers, MS did enough to stop that whole MS doesn't have any games this year arguement. YES, Sony does have more, but not enough to make a huge difference at this point.

And about that games arguement....it only matters to us. A casual gamer will only buy 2 or 3 games AT most this holiday season. Those games will be the likes of Call of Duty, Madden and etc..... So for them the whole exclusive arguement is a moot point. they wanna play there games at the cheapest possible price.

That is why Sony will never be successful without a pricedrop that will put them close to $200. then it will be game on!!! Till then...much more of the same.

[Aquanox]

Nice, now we're back to the "Microsoft paid them all" arguments.

Why don't you guys just get over the idea that it's a possibility that it was Microsoft the one that impressed the press the most?

This is a public poll btw, they're just agreeing with the people who voted.

Jeeez...

[Genesis5]

Ms impressed the American media. The rest of the worlds media that doesn't have the made is America blinders wrapped around their heads see things in a less biased way.

Sony had twice the gaming content than MS, new hardware and a new motion sensing device that works better than anything currently out there. Natal shows promise but nobody is even sure when it will be ready.

What is it that convinces you MS had the best show? The 2 surviving Beatles.

[solidt12]

How can you play a FPS with Project Natel, you need something in your hands. That's why I am more interested in the Playstation 3 motion sensing. Project Natel will be better for fighting games.

[nightfallfilms]

@1.18 so all the game sites that have played Natal behind closed doors and have said it works, don't mean anything I guess? Take your fanboy comments somewhere else.

[Monchichi025]

Too bad America is the media capital of the world! And you just happen to be on an American webpage by the way. Take your hate elsewhere.

[Genesis5]

I am not anti American I live in Canada I have a lot of American made products the I use everyday. But the American media is extremely biased when it comes to judging things on merits and not where it is made.

Thats a shame because it is the media capital of the world. It's to bad that you can get an impartial observation from them.

[Doctor_Doom]

Metal Gear aka ($ony's Halo) is one of the biggest franchise that $ony had . I think that MGR was a huge surprise for the Xb0x fans it's like taking Halo from M$ and release it as a multiplatform game.

BTW , Project natal looks really promising

[Toenado]

I doubt project natal will ever become what MS intends it to. If it does it will not be any time soon. Also im not the laziest person but I sure as hell dont want to be standing around, waving my arms about while talking to my tv for hours on end when i can be sitting down using a controller. but thats just me.

[Eddie20101]

Did this guy see the same conference I did? Sony showed as many if not more exclusive's, showed new hardware, gave a very good demonstration of real 3 dimensional control. Sony's game lineup has way more variety.

Please tell me what the Natal demonstration showed that was so interesting, was it throwing paint at a wall and making an elephant, was it kicking balls spastically, was it air driving a car, was it the creepy child simulator, I mean adults should play with there children, and children should play with other children, why would you need a simulated experience.

Sony's 3 dimensional control demo made way more sense for real gaming, and could easily meat the need for casual games.

This guy is proof that there is fanboyism in the so called professional gaming media, his articles are complete fanboy craap, even CNET, the site he works for said that Sony won the conference.

I will be completely honest, the celebrity stuff means diddly to me, Natal was not that great and to me is just a slight upgrade to what is already available, its great that the 360 is getting a new Metal Gear Solid game that the PS3 is getting also, but Kojima made it clear his support personally is still with Sony and the Playstation brand. The things that impressed me was the games coming for the 360, but even saying that the PS3 games interest me more.

Edit: The guy that wrote the article does not work for CNET, he is a blogger on one of CNET blog sites, so I'm wondering where he got his pole information from. I've seen a few poles on which company won the conference and all of them show Sony as the winner.

[really duh]

The first Cnet article was a user blog post lol.

[nightfallfilms]

@genesis5 1.27 Bias one need only look at the situation with the Phoenix Coyotes and anything to do with the NHL/hockey to see Canadian bias with a product.

[ShabzS]

with a completely objective perspective ... microsoft had the better showing... 1 whole hour of sony's conference was about the psp ... all the major announcemetns were for the psp... they didnt cut the ps3 price infact they hiked the psp price with the new model... u guys (including me) were expecting an mgs 5 on ps3 thanks to that teaser site... it was really dissapointing to hear that it was an msg for psp...

they really didnt do much for the ps3 apart for gameplay footages of gow (which was awesome btw) and uncharted 2 and the agent .. and i think they announced agent to keep the exclusive line up long... no pics teasers or info about it... it was a little premature i think... and since they had said that this was supposed to be the best e3 in 11 yrs .. it really wasnt...

we went in to microsofts conference expecting nothing ... they did say they would blow ur mind ... and they hit that target with milos demo.... they gave everything we hoped they would have ... alan wake running on 360, final fantasy running on 360, a crackdown sequel and finally the impossible ... metal gear coming to 360 ...

[Ju]

Err...that's just such another American stereotype. America is the media capital of the world. Yeah, sure, because everybody in Europe watches American news or buys American magazines. Well, boy, you guys are really brain washed. ts ts ts...

[SaberEdge]

People claiming that the writer of this article is biased or that the American gaming press are biased need to get a clue.

First of all, whether the writer has a preference for the 360 or not is irrelevant. The cnet poll included votes from over 10,800 people from all over the world, the large majority of which thought Microsoft had the best showing.

Second, I have seen lots of European and Australian based game sites that also expressed that Microsoft had the best E3 conference.

You guys are distorting things and doing your best to try to downplay Microsoft's excellent showing at E3, but outside of this little PS3 fanboy haven the vast majority of the world doesn't agree with you.

[TheRealSpy02]

any time you see one sided praise for ps3 despite its obvious set backs and lackluster announcements, you know you're on N4G.

@the guy below me and everyone else who expresses the same lack of imagination... those were demonstrations for the potential of natal. Not the only applications. yes, we all know you'd rather hold a real steering wheel. cuz we all know how realistic the peripherals for steering have felt so far....

that's not the point at all. the point is that it can detect these slight variations in movement on, what is it, over 40 different parts of your body simultaneously. that leaves a near infinite number of possibilities outside of driving a car.

additionally...this argument that ps3 fanboys love to make about not being able to feel it is pretty hypocritical when you consider that when ps3 was announced they said there would be no rumble (because they were getting sued for such honest business that sony is known for), and ps3 fanboys all chanted "who needs vibration? that's last generation, we have 6 axis." now, MS has full body, 3d motion detection and that's not cool cuz you don't feel it. lol...give me a break.

[Pika-pie]

Dont get me wrong.. I was really impressed with Natal. But I was also impressed when I first played Wii Sports. (I had a Wii for 6 months before I realised how lame it really was). I have never ditched a console so fast, and bizarly enough, made a profit on sale.

Im not bothered about pretending to hold a steering wheel (Id prefer a real one), or navigating the dashboard with a flick of my wrists (I prefer the d-pad) or prancing around the room painting a picture (have better things to do), or playing dumb mini games (thats what the wii and eyetoy are for).

What I really want is an immersive RPG like. I want to be in the game, I want to feel I am a part of that that world. If Microsoft can deliver me that then I will bow down and kiss my 360. Until that I am very sceptical.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Please tell us what did those guys get to demo? Oh thats right the same thing we saw them demo live. All the promises from their comercial are just that right now promises. I think MS PC was better than last years but when a device that wont be out anytime soon with a hardcore game steals the show it makes me wonder about the future of gaming.

What has really surprised me is the almost total switch on fanboys part to support something that is not in any way for the hardcore gamers. You can call this a revolution in gaming but I see smoke and mirrors.

[Godmars290]

This Dan guy may not be all of Cnet, but unless you can find other E3 articles that contradict his, he represents or can be seen to represent Cnet. Especially to the casual viewer of the website and the less tech savvy media outlets that use Cnet as their source.

[cmrbe]

that idiot that said the PS3 will die in 2007 as well as Blu-ray?.

Hehe. Don't pay attention of him.

[jmare]

First of all, Don is a tool. Not because of his preferences, but because he delivers his opinions in an unprofessional way. I think that is in part due to the internet and the lack of journalistic standards when it comes to articles published there.

I can understand why everyone was impressed by MS's conference; they claimed to be able to give the moon and people bought it, hook, line, and sinker. Can MS pull off all their claims? No one knows yet.

As far as how they compared to Sony, I think they are about equal and if half of Sony's announcements had not been leaked, I think their conference would've been much more impressive. I think it's the personal preferences and biases that are tipping it in either direction for people.

MS did not impress with their games. This does not mean that the games were not impressive, just that there were no shocks or real surprises. Crackdown 2 was a surprise, but not a huge one. L4D2 was a surprise, but more of a disappointment to the people who want Episode 3 RFN. Everyone knew there would be a couple of Halo titles; MS is going to pump that well until it's dry. FF XIII and AC2 were both shown off at Sony (And better shown, I might add). Splinter Cell is a love/hate franchise and it didn't seem to be that impressive, to me. Alan Wake just seemed like a cross between Alone in the Dark and Silent Hill.

That leaves the Live stuff. Twitter and FaceBook? Cool. I can think of three ways to already access both of them. The downloading of full games? Hardware issues aside, the PS3 already does this on certain titles, so I don't see what's so impressive. The instant streaming of 1080p videos? I call bullshit on that one. If MS is able to pull that off for everyone, regardless of ISP, networking equipment, etc. I will by Satan's first sled myself. I'm not saying it can't be done, I just don't think it will be done right now.

This leaves Natal. The live demo was not that impressive. BAM! Make an Elephant. They all say Hi. The breakout clone was exhausting and who is really going to move around that much just to play games? Doesn't anyone remember people b1tching about too much waggle in Wii games and it made people tired? I guess not. And this technology existed last gen, it was called the Eyetoy. MS just imporved upon it. Now I'll admit that the video was teh veryz impressivez. But that's a video. Under very tightly controlled conditions, I'm sure it works fine, but what about the end user? Joe Dumbass who likes it because it's got pretty lights?

Looking at it with an unbiased view most people would call it about even between MS and Sony. Fanboys will skew it how they will.

[evrfighter]

"Thats a shame because it is the media capital of the world. It's to bad that you can get an impartial observation from them. "

That IS too bad isn't it...

Oh well do what the rest of us do when we don't get our way. suck it up and move on, it's not the end of the world you know.

[moparful99]

Ok heres my take on project natal and the rediculous amount of back and forth between people who obviously have their minds made up and arent backing... Seriously this comment pinp pong is getting tired... But back to natal... Ok I def applaud microsoft for trying something new. But saying they stole the show is a little bit of a stretch.. Now before I get dogpiled by all of the pro natal users on this site let me explain my reasoning. Yes this tech shows potential I agree with you there... That being said my concern lies in the fact that They only did live demos of the painting and 3d breakout game which were both ultra casual examples. Had they done a live demo of milo on stage instead of a video would have lent more creedance to the "stealing the show" title... There is no launch window and no details of games that are implementig and taking advantage of this tech so the industry changing implications are all speculation right now.. For example in an rpg where large open environments wherein you traverse long distances how will you move? I know nobody has more the 10-20 between their couch and the tv so after you've walked 10 feet how will you continue to progress in the same direction??? This is the achilles heel of implementing input-less controls into modern games.. If microsoft can solve this riddle and implement it then bravo microsoft will have a true innovation on their hands but until then this device seems destined to be a casual component.

[xboxlj]

How in the world can you not agree that Microsoft the best showing. There is no way that Sony was best in the show. And some are you are saying that you knew of all the games except Halo Reach. That is a bold face lie. Unless you are psychic I am sure your did not know about LFD2, Crackdown 2, MGS, & Shadow Complex. And know one knew for sure that Alan Wake, Forza 3, GoW:DC, & Splinter Cell Conviction would show up.
I say give credit where credit is due and Microsoft deserves it. Sony fanboys were stating that Microsoft had nothing coming out they proved you wrong. However everyone should be happy because it was a great E3 from all companies and we finally got the "real E3" back.

[DaCandyman]

Microsoft sputters out a load of mon-goos and this guy dives right in for a swim.

they all had a good showing. Microsoft took the bigger risk showing off something that wasn't theirs until after they got positive reaction and feedback with Natal. Sony gave us a reason to NOT throw away the camera just yet. And Nintendo stuck with what they only know (there own $#!&).
Over all it was about the games which I was more impressed with Sony than Microsoft.
Microsoft can only buy into what Sony has aged out for 15+ years or wear out and IP. Sony's got what it takes to pave the way for new and upcoming developers and wear out Hideo Kojima. And Nintendo's got...Nintendo. Oh and Pokemon.

[orange-skittle]

1st-4 other credible sites are reporting the same thing including the network that covered it. You morons weren't there, so stfu.

2nd-Sony couldnt compete with MS's Project Natal vs New Motion Controller

3rd-All of Sonys games are coming out in 2010 not 2009

4th-Sony blew their wad too soon bc prior to E3, everyone felt MS didn't have anything to show and they surprised everyone.

5th-PSN is still in the dark ages when XBL continues to grow stronger. People wondered what's next after the Netflix integration...well they told ya(Facebook,Twitter,1080p Streaming Movies, and Full 360 Digital Distribution Games at retail pricing). No more pre-ordering at gamestop.

BTW, Modern Warfare 2 was demo'ed on a 360....why? Preferred system of choice. Why is Konami bringing MGS over, because they are not leaving money on the table any longer. Did you people see Splinter Cell? How could you not want to play this game? I am a God of War fan, but I was not impressed with GOW3 at all. It looked like GOD2 except in HD.

[StephanieBBB]

What other sites? Can you post a source?

But check my previous post because THE EVIDENCE IS RIGHT THERE! How thick must you be to overlook it? Im not saying that Project natal won't work at all. Im just saying that the Trailer of Milo and project natal is fake. They are set up to make you think that they work better than they actually do.

[orange-skittle]

StephanieBBB

G4TV, IGN, Gamepro, 1up, Kotaku, and CNET have all reported that MS had a better showing. Please read before you post because IGN already reported that they had closed door sessions using Project Natal and it works perfectly. It was posted on here as well. You should archive the article.

Rucky

Obviously you're a PS3 fanboy because if you read the bottom of the article, the author doesn't work for CNet. I guess CNet is owned by MS too?

[jrsenkbe]

I believe 6 months ago I was able to download games like Warhawk and Burnout on my PS3, ways before M$ did this. These guys are homers and need to look objectively.

motion control sucks!!!

[edgeofblade]

Let's be serious. Microsoft put on a great show. Sony did too, and where it not for the leaks, the shows would have been roughly equal. Both should be proud of their performance.

And we can all agree Nintendo sucks ass.

[godofthunder10]

I've read a lot of article about ps3 fanboys acusing microsoft from copping the moition controller from sony.The fact is that sony coppied it from nintendo and nintendo coppied it from a company that invented it years ago for the P.C.Sony ps3 fanboys think that sony invented everything for gaming or made it better and they never give any other company credit.Hell they have some ps3 fanboys even claiming that sony made it better then nintendo did.I don't like moition controller and never did.if some people like it i hope they get it just as long as i don't have to use it.The fact is that sony was so scared when they seen the moition controller the 1st time they hurried up and started working on 1 for the ps3.if people remember when sony 1st showed the ps3 it didn't have a moition controller in it..

I remembered when the xbox 1st came out and microsoft said they wanted it to be more of a media center then just a game system.Sony said that game fans don't wont a media center.They claimed that game fans wanted good games.Sony claimed that their games will be better because they could spend all their time on games not a media center,and guess what,every ps fanboy agreed with sony and called the ideal stupid and microsoft want last because of it.The fact is that microsoft was ahead of the online gameing.Sony seen how it was working and how it was the future of gaming.So sony made a media center and said great things about it and guess what,every ps fanboy agreed with sony.it seems that it doesn't mater what sony says they will all ways agree with them(Hell i have a 360 and i don't agree with microsoft all the time).Microsoft were the 1st ones to make online gameing work.Microsoft was also the 1st ones to have down loadable content and movies.I remembered when ps3 fanboys claimed that sony will never offer a whole game to download when microsoft 1st announced it.They claimed that it wasn't the future and sony knows it,well sony did offer whole games to download not long after microsoft did.The fact is that we are heading into a new age.The majority of software will have to be down loaded.I even read an article the other day when it said that br sales are slowing down and it has a damn great pic.

The real reason i'm posting for this article is

1st-I'm tired of hearing that all microsoft do is steal games.The fact is that Sony did the same damn thing when they 1st came out.The METALGEAR SOLID games,FINAL FANTASY games,NINJS GAIDEN and other so call ps3 exclusives that ps3 fanboy claimes that microst stole from Sony was stolen by Sony from Nintendo 1st.The fact is that all the games i mentioned and other big ps3 exclusives they have now was stolen from nintendo by sony.The fact is that when Sony 1st came out with the playatation they went after every big nintendo game they could.They bought the exclusive rights or made deals with the developers to help finace their next project if they make the game a ps exclusive like they did with METALGEAR SOLID.They did the same thing with the majority of exclusive the ps3 still have today.Before ps3 fanboys open their mouth and call microsoft a theif,they need to look back and see what sony did because if microsoft a theift so is sony,hell sony is the 1st one to do it out of the 2.So next time atleast be honest and post the facts not just what you want people to here.if you post a bunch of crap about how microsoft steals from sony then you should mentioned how sony stole games from nintendo.

2nd.Ps3 fanboys need to stop acusing microsoft for doing illigal things and acting like sony never do anything wrong and care about them.Every ps3 fanboy need to read what( TheRealSpy02 )- wrote and every ps3 fanboy need to go to the sites he mentioned and they will see the facts that sony got caught doing the same thing every ps3 fanboy acuse microsoft for doing.ps3 fanboys need to check out to see the facts about every times sony got caught doing illigal activities in their intertainment department.After reading these ps3 fanboys should shut up about microsoft doing these things because sony does the same damn thing.On top of that sony don't give a sh*t about any one of them just like microsoft don't give a sh*t for their supporters either.All they think of is how to make as much profit as they can and that's a fact.When it comes to us they wouldn't p*ss on anyone of us if we were on fire to save our lives.Ps3 fanboys need to check out and read these articles when sony got busted for doing the same thing ps3 fanboys acuse microsoft of doing.

http://www.internetdj.com/a...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://www.consumeraffairs....

3rd- every ones a fanboy.The fact is that if you own a ps3 sony did better,if you own a 360 microsoft did better.Instead of being so damn childish just face the fact that they both did good and that's good for all gamers.

I'm not a bias childish fanboy of either system because it's ridiculious.The fact is that i don't like metal gear and never did and i wont buy it but i'm happy the 360 will have 1 because some people do like it and i'm glad they could enjoy it.I even wish that ps3 could get some 360 exclusives for ps3 fans to play.I know that a lot of them wont admitt that the 360 have good exclusives but they know it do but to childish to admit it.

[Raf1k1]

'The Sony controller is cool an innovative to some extent but there was nowhere as groundbreaking as Natal in terms of innovation. In short, Sony took Wii mote and Eye toy, two previously released products and "integrated" the idea into one. Microsoft did something that just had never seen before, 3D motion recognition in games? It would've sounded unreal just one week ago.'

Really?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bigscr...

Dude, I don't know how you manage it but somehow you are able to work your fingers without your brain.

Heres a quote from the article:
'Interactive Games
We've been playing some ground breaking games which are based on movement recognition. A camera on top of the screen picks up and shows people moving in the square. With software designed by ICDC (International Centre for Digital Content, part of John Moores University in Liverpool ), it then projects objects onto the screen that interact with people's movements. The result is participants rushing round the square kicking a virtual reality football or people trying to touch and destroy lots of meteorites heading for earth in the centre of the screen!'

I've said this before, both Sony and Microsoft are using existing technology for use with their own consoles.

[cherrypie]

So -- correct me if I'm wrong -- should we add Cnet to the vast members list of the Anti Sony Conspiracy?

Really guys, face it, by *all* relative accounts thusfar, MS stole the show. Again.

They are outselling PS3 by a wide margin worldwide (Xbox 360 has year over year increases, while PS3 has year over year decline == widening margin). Xbox 360 is selling piles and piles of games. Former Sony partners are coming to work with Xbox 360, why? Because THEY LIVE IN REALITY.

Do you think SE would bring FF and Kojima would bring MGS to Xbox 360 if they **ALSO** couldnt see who the industry leader is?

Its time you people stop embarassing yourselves. Take a look at the superior quality of exclusives on the Xbox 360; ME2, SC:C, H3:ODST and on and on from 1st to third parties.

It is very very clear that 2009 will be *ANOTHER* superior year for Xbox 360. The industry TELLS you this.

[rucky]

Cnet will always be Cnet

[Smacktard]

The group that seemed the most defeated, ironically, was Nintendo. They were so lacking of life. I felt that Sony was the fullest of life. Their speakers were fantastic. Of course, the only speaker that had a bit of trouble was the guy showing off Sony's motion controller. But after awhile he got into the groove of things. Sony showed off the most interesting stuff, and I don't see how anyone can be saying that Microsoft won.

Sony's motion looked neat, and will have uses. Microsoft's was a glorified eye toy, and I don't think it would ever have a chance to have quality usage. However, as both are being revealed so late into the console's life, they're both doomed to failure. Especially Microsoft's $200 eye toy. It's a shame.

Again, before the accusations start, take into consideration I've never owned a Sony system, and I owned an original Xbox.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

What was shown the day before? A Camera game? You mean like the stuff Sony's been doing on PS2 for years? Or the incredible Eyepet they unveiled last year?

Just for fun..
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc... (Eyepet pwnz)

Vs "Project Natal"
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Microsoft has some serious catching up to do ;)

[lokiroo420]

Really duh, really, really this stole the show, maybe turn the volume down and dont concentrate on the bright colors and flashing lights.

and watch canadian guys vid vs project natal, watch how choppy and slow the tracking is when he is lifting his leg, thats exciting?

[really duh]

It looked like Sony knew they lost just after MSFT had there conference. Jack T had a defeated and nervous demeanor while he did the conference. The Sony motion wand guys looked like they had a *why the fu*k are we up here* looks on their faces after what was shown the day before.

[Ju]

No doubt, Sony's motion controller was no product. But the only difference between Natal and this is, that Sony's wasn't wrapped up in a nice "I am almost ready" product wrapper. Both are at the same stage, while Sony has the Eye already out, MS has nothing. MS is the master of fake, possibly better then anybody else. But its not the better tech, none the less. Sony had to react, and while my first reaction was, "WTH. A me too now?" I must say, eventually, it would have been a big loss for Sony to not put up their cards with what they have in the labs already. And that's what they did, IMO.

[cherrypie]

Yes, CNET will be CNet.

One of the few outsets of Technology news from a firm grounded in traditional journalism.

It is owned by CBS FFS. Not some bullshait personal-opinion-blog that the SDF submits/approves simply because they print some nonsense that you **WISH** were true (evidence: see 99% of the stories on this site).

CNet is one of the *MOST* trusted names in Games / Tech journalism. You people need to understand that *YOUR* worldview (the one where the PS3 isnt a failure) *IS* FICTION. And every time quality news reporting is printed that fails your fantasy-world-view, it doesnt make them part of some giant conspiracy.

It's time to face reality.

[Kain81]

IN MY OPINION SONY HAD THE BEST E3 SHOW

[raztad]

I dont care about who has the best show. That question is SOOO futile to me. who has the best lighting, teh best speech? wth?

I care about games, and hardware that interest me. PSP Go (and its awesome line up of games specially MGS:PW), TLG, GoW3, U2. That is all I care.

Some media are impressed so easily with MS "innovations". 1080p videos? facebook? WTF? Eytoy idea renamed Project Natal. Show me some innovative games and I'll prise your console. Gears was innovative, Alan Wake is SH.

[dachiefsman]

HAHAHAHA! Just as it's your opinion Sony won, it's the same as this guys OPINION that MS won.

MS wins or achieves anything it's usually due to a conspiracy derived from money according to some of you.

You wanna know who really won E3 gamers did not fanboys!

[TheRealSpy02]

it's so sad and pathetic to see ps3 fanboys make this same moronic statement over and over and over again. look up sony's past and you'll find they have been involved with and been CAUGHT doing exactly what you accuse MS of doing.

get off your high horse, you look ridiculous up there.

i'll start adding just a few here:

http://www.internetdj.com/a...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://www.consumeraffairs....

just type in sony scandals into google and see what you can find.

also i found this one, it's not real, but it's hilarious

http://www.theonion.com/con...

[Chicken Chaser]

CNET poll

Microsoft- 52.1%
Sony- 33.9%
Nintendo-5.6%
None of them--they were all yawners- 8.4%

Total votes: 10,870

[Orange]

are cnet polls as accurate as Metacritic user ratings?

[ShabzS]

wow.. dude if 10,000 votes arent enough for you than what is the point ...

[Why o why]

thats more like the CNET i know ¬_¬

[Spike47]

It is useless, people are acting like it is going to revolutionize gaming, as if it wasn't done before.

With the new PS3 motion sensing controllers, you were able to just DO MORE, and I could see it implemented in a more serious and more hardcore gaming way, instead of the usual casual gamer bs.

[mintaro]

The same could be said for the wii, after all the ps3 motion control is just a wiimote with a camera.

[Chicken Chaser]

The press and every single website * IGN, Edge..etc* have been blown away with Natal..it works and most of them think its going to evolutionize gaming..and they HAVE been using it at E3...and none of us have

but what can i say ...you are excited over the PS3 Lady gaga Waggle controller ... so i'm gonna give it a rest

[No FanS Land]

the PS3 remote is the exact thing as the wii-mote except it works the other way around. The sensor bar sends the info and the wii-mote sends it back to the console (the reason why you can use it on a PC, Mac, or even with two candles). While the PS3's «sensor» bar (PS eye) receives the info to send to the PS3.

[ReBurn]

So being able to wave your hand around in the air in a 3D space gives you the ability to do more than move your entire body around in a 3D space? You're kidding, right?

Project Natal is a great concept. I'm not convinced that developers will be able to make good use of it considering the dearth of good Wii games. But the product and the presentation of Natal were polished. It offers more than waggling. It offers face and voice recongnition as opposed to just being able to follow the glowing ball on top of the controller.

You could tell that Sony was on the defensive with their motion controller presentation. The presenters were unprepared and the demos were really rough. It's far too early to call Sony's motion controller a better concept than Natal because they aren't far enough along to demonstrate what it is truly capable of.

[No FanS Land]

WTF? who disagreed? man seriously do some research and then STFU.

[Eddie20101]

A Wii mote with a camera, but way more accurate and useful for playing real games. If you looked at Sony's demonstration and didn't see the
potential for real 3 dimensional gaming that felt more realistic than waving your hand and moving your feet with invisible objects, there is something wrong with you.

An invisible gun will not work for a shooter, how do you pull the trigger, do you stamp your foot on the ground to shoot your invisible gun, will that feel emersive to you. to most people that sounds gimmicky and will feel gimmicky.

I saw some footage of the head of the Natal project playing Burnout, it looked silly to be steering with an invisible steering wheel. Also to accelerate you had to step forward to break you had to step back. So it looked like they had to shoehorn a very unrealistic control scheme. Air driving just does not seem very fun to me.

I do see its potential with boxing and martial arts type of games, and also exercise type games. They didn't demonstrate anything like that other than video, so I will grade them on what they did demonstrate, and that to me was not that impressive.

[TheRealSpy02]

i can tell your very smart. but lets just use our heads here.

the camera detects your motions. and it scans objects. you think someone couldn't think up this idea that i just thought of in 8 seconds. you hold a freaking gun!!!!!

my god what does it take to open ps3 fanboy's minds to common sense???

if they want to make a shooter, they package it with a gun...or sell it as a periferal. it doesn't stop the camera from detecting your ever motion. sweet jesus man. i don't even know what to say to you beyond get a clu.

the camera detects motion...it doesn't suddenly stop working cuz you put a controller back in your hands.

wow.... i am so sick of listening to this argument. how hard is this? the PSWiiMote limits you to the movements of the controller. natal detects all movements...even subtle ones. there is no rule that says you can't still hold something that has a button.

how do ps3 fanboys have so many Fin bubbles???????

[Frulond]

facebook and twiter are the killer apps that made a videogame console win E3? wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooow

[GiantEnemyCrab]

social networking is huge my friend. Millions on Twitter and Facebook and to be able to directly tie those names to your system (by having it built into the dashboard) is good business.

[Why o why]

facebook is an intrusion of all of our private lives. If i really wanted to use it id use the browser BUT i dont even have an account but Yes my pics are all over that sh!t. Anyhow its a extra service that you dont have to pay for so its a bonus and shouldn't be dismissed. At the same time it shouldn't be lorded like its improves gaming because it doesn't. The funny thing is home was getting dissed by some but in essence home is more like a gamers social network service than anything else out there on console. anyway added features can never be a bad thing

[Pennywise]

Grasping for straws is fun too.

[LCF]

Sad day when X360 loyalist defend microsoft investing in twitter and facebook then actual games. 2 exclusive retail games on the X360 was all I got from this E3. Instead of praising this, X360 loyalists should be like WTF? Having twitter and facebook in your OS dont make it more a media center. Why doesn't MS just make a OS with a open browser? Paying $50 a year with no access to the net, just twitter and facebook? Sad.

[peeps]

in all fairness twitter and facebook are good. but if i'm at home i get them on my pc and if i'm out i get them on my ipod touch. I never used msn on 360 either cus it just seemed to lag and freeze. the ps3 browser is only ever used for speedtests as well

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

lol Natal has nothing on Sony's controller.

[Man_of_the_year]

You're right...like no peripherals for example.

@delumine - oppose to the dual weilding of the peripherals that i will be desperately shaking with Sony's?

[Model]

i will laugh at your desperate shaking when you will try to control the games with this revolutionary Natal thingy

[talltony]

Natal looks so effing awesome dont get me wrong but sonys's thing is better for a more hardcore gaming experience. Still i will get both for different reasons.

[Kill Crow]

exact copy of the wii controller with nothing more than a PS1 tech demo to show for it...

And how can you say it looks better for hardcore experience? They showed a year old tech demo with ps1 graphics ... it looked aweful

[talltony]

No I dont mean sony's exact copy of the wii controller and to my knowledge the wii uses a cheap little sensor bar not a actual camera that tracks movement.
You know as well as i do that if sony's motion control is incorporated into a hardcore FPS it would be awesome!
I know your impressed with it too, you just dont want to admit it. its ok I understand.
And that tech demo wasnt ps1 graphics but thats not the point anyways. The point was to show how accurate it can be. Anyways I will be getting both Natal and this because I am a gamer!

[NowGen]

but i think each company pretty much gave their respected fan base what they wanted. is it just me or are the diehard sony fans on this site angry ass hell for some reason?

[skatezero246]

not all of us I'm satisfied with what Sony showed/announced great games comfirmed for the rest of 2009 and great games to start 2010.

[No FanS Land]

Agreed. Actualy I think it's nintendo that made me smile the most. I'm a huge Metroid fan and that new game will be crazy. Plus, Golden sun is icing on the cake. Favorite portable RPG.

[skatezero246]

to each their own I'm still sticking with my opinion and you can only find Kratos on it

[BYE]

CNET are Hypocrites

http://n4g.com/News-338844....

[silvacrest]

hmmmmm,

so WTH CNET?
is this just flamebait to get more hits?
if so, congratz

[ultimolu]

...What did they steal?

[skatezero246]

thats a good ? thats what I'm trying to figure out

[ultimolu]

...Idek dude. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

EDIT: Crab...what did they steal? You answer that question for me. I know there's ab expression but CNET amuses me to no end.

[No FanS Land]

a mutlit plat?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

It's an expression... "You stole the show tonight!".

[Pennywise]

They stole Sonys PSeye idea. Thats about it.

[Vicophine]

Another year, another multiplatform game touted as exclusive causes the M$Media to delcare them a winner... -sigh-.

[INehalemEXI]

/sigh

[GiantEnemyCrab]

RTFA

[peeps]

hmmm they seem to have missed a lot of sony's announcments... like rockstars exclusive game. No1 knows what it is but with rockstars track record thats pretty big news. oh yeh console exclusivity for FF14 (this could be coming to 360 but as it stands from E3, its ps3/pc only)

[kingjoker34]

from what I see, NATAL is just another eyetoy, Sony has been doing that for how many years now?
revolutionary my ass.
And from what ive heard about the MS fanboys about MGS is it sucks that it has so much cutscenes. but now they finally got a MGS game they are all about it now.
tell me that PSP GO+PSP titles+2 new MGS+motion control+ GOW III+MAG+FFXIV+R* game did MS win?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

"From what I see, NATAL is just another eyetoy, "

That is the reason why anyone would be wasting their time trying to explain. I don't feel like playing "Convince the PS3 owner", the game that has no end.

[maniacmayhem]

My thoughts exactlty Crab, if any of these Sony Fandites actually saw the demo of the Natal, how could you NOT get excited, even as a GAMER!?

Talking to a fanboy is like argueing with a drunk person.

But just to appease the Sony fans and not get to many disagrees and Ignores I shall throw out words like...

EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE

and...

Hideo Hideo Hideo!!

There, now i should be loved by the Sony Mafia.

[peeps]

"actually saw the demo of the Natal, how could you NOT get excited, even as a GAMER!? "

because although it's cool. what games can you see it being used it. I'm not convinced that we have been stuck with controllers all this time due to lack of tech tbh

it is a big advancement over the eyetoy... but how many eyetoy games are there, how many big games has it been used in (other than profile pics/face modelling) - it's games are all minigame compilations

[Yomiro]

I think this guys saw something that the others did not see

http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

[Biggunz]

This has to be one of the biggest stretches I've ever read. It's laughable.

[Unicron]

Don Reisinger "article." LOL. How predictable. Fail.

Sony and MS both had solid showings. This guy CONSTANTLY bashes anything that isn't MS, it's hilarious. Pull the phallus out buddy.

As I said before... Sony gave PS3 fans what they want. MS gave 360 fans what they want. NEITHER did anything to really convince the "other side" to join their "cause." Both banked on "exclusive" announcements with pretty much ZERO footage (Reach, Agent).

But hey, it's good ole Don, let's ignore facts and suckle MS's teat a lil more.

[AnonUser5555]

I don't understand that CNET article.

They declare MS the winner and list off their exclusives. They then follow it by saying Sony didn't keep up...and THEN passingly mention Sony's exclusives.

NEWSFLASH TO THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA:

MGS: Rising is a spinoff--not really a true sequel--and, more importantly, is MULTIPLATFORM.

[BYE]

They are owned by Mircrosoft who probably forced them to do this after CNET's first article which was in Sony's favor.

http://n4g.com/News-338844....

[cherrypie]

At the douche above: CNet networks is owned by CBS!

Secondly, Kojima said MGS:R is the next title in MGS; he called it MGS5 FFS. Are you really splitting hairs about this? "Spin off"? Yeah, SPIN SPIN SPIN is right.

Lastly, Splinter Cell:Conviction, Forza Motorsport 3, Halo: ODST, Alan Wake -- those are killer, exclusive genre-leading titles.

The average metacritic score of Splinter cell series is ~9.4 and Halo is ~9.5.

They each sold millinos and millions of copies. Those two titles alone are the biggest games discussed at E3 09.

[tha_meat_beater]

the "me too multiplatform award" along with the hearts and souls of the buttbot brigade

[hunter21]

seriously.... lol what an a**

[mrv321]

Microsoft recently lied to us all, hyped up everything but not much to really show and moving more casual with facebook and twitter and a few other things I'd like to mention.

PGR4 more definative game this Generation, last I checked sony showed dency towards there customers and support their brands such as the PS2 and they'll support there PS3 through this generation. And BTW
GT5 looks better.
And Modnation racers has more tracks and is FAAR more customixable you loose on both fronts.

Atleast they brought out the camera, but let's look a Natal shall we.

Very irresponcive, look at it, no wait you can becaue BOOM it glitched out.
Milo, hmm yeah not scripted that pen and paper was accidently left next to TV.
No buttons, way advancing, a controller has buttons because we need them we can't play game by flailing around atleast not the good ones.
Oh and Eyepet looks just as good I might add.

So WHILE microsoft mocked Sixaxis for being a gimmick they where also working on Natal which is advertized like a Wii, family gaming. SO hypocracy thy name is Microsoft. Well done for ruining gaming with your XBOX 33% and your unsupported original which was quite pathetic considering the PS2 is going strong with great games.

Shame Microsoft won, all sony did was show exclusive games, reveal gameplay and just give us what we want. And surprisingly nintendo showed off more games. Funny isn't it.

You'll only get this on 360... [small print] also on PC [/small print]

[greatjimbo78]

I've checked and not even Google translator can decipher what any of that meant.

Please help; do you have your own (whatever it is you speak to English) translator book?

Hang on are you a Klingon? Is it Klingon you’re writing there?

[eagle21]

Better luck next year MS. And that natal thing is the most overrated (overhyped) piece of *bleep* at E3 2009. :)

[HDgamer]

CNet wants hits, You're giving it to them.

[nycredude]

Don't cnet review hardware. Wonder what they rate the xbox hardware vs the Ps3 hardware. I would check it but I don't want to give them hits.

[skatezero246]

Lol that would be funny, because I bet if Don did it he would have every excuse he could think about to make it seem like the 360 is better when really it's obvious (Rrod) speaks for itself

[AnonUser5555]

The only people to claim crap like "Microsoft stole the show" are people who don't understand the gaming industry at all and just want to suckle the MS power teet.

This is almost as bad as the Gamepro article that declared Microsoft the slight winner even though half of the "good" games they listed were multiplatform.

Going first appears to have paid off for Microsoft, since it's confused enough idiots into thinking that MGS:R is a) Exclusive and b)Being made by Kojima himself.

So in terms of duping people, then yes, Microsoft wins.

[Xbox3suckstiy]

dont msoft own Cnet? xbots can have thier eyetoy clone the only people they made look foolish is themselves! they didnt even make the product them selves. they just bought out the company that did

[Ethereal21]

= morons

[Dick0]

always wins this generation this is not a surprise

[skatezero246]

yea in your opinion ... your name fits you btw

[Arknight]

I didn't even have to open the webpage to know this was an article by Don Reisinger.....

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

"How Microsoft stole......every other companies ideas" ;-D

NEW xBot names -

TwitterBot ;-D

FaceBookBot ;-D

[Deadman64]

Well see sir ken, microsoft realized that people have friends. And one way friends connect is with facebook, so why not incorporate that into the dashboard? Great idea, the more the merrier.

I can understand why you were bitter about this, you lack friends. I'm not making fun of you, I in fact feel very bad for you. Keep your chin up! One day you'll make a friend. One day you may even lose your virginity. But lets take it one step at a time. ttyl.

[nostalgic_noob]

Mainstream Casuals and Little kids and soccer moms say Microsoft did the best.
Real Gamers say Sony did the best.

[SH3MRON]

...I thought this year Sony would finally come up front and I thought MS was going on third and with luck on second place. But somehow they pulled it of stealing MGS and with the Project Natal or whatever its called. I use both systems for different things although the game I'm waiting is MAG. Sony better step it up cause been on third or second for 3 years in a row is not looking good for them.

[AnonUser5555]

If your definition of "stealing" MGS is getting a multiplatform spinoff game, then you're easily impressed.

[SH3MRON]

Its stealing in terms it was a Sony exclusive and they used their big pockets to get it. Still its its only on the xbox I'll buy it if its on both platforms I'll get it on PS3. MS has the big pockets and they have managed to be the best at e3 for a couple of years now. (overall)

[HDgamer]

Kojima isn't even behind the game. It's not even worth a buy if it doesn't have him. Or someone remotely close

[Dick0]

You look like iff u survive a abortion

[36T]

Finally someone with some common sense! Microsoft won E3 by a land slide. Whether you agree or not, i don't care one bit. If Sony started off the show with their conference and Microsoft finished, everybody but the fanboys would be singing a different tune. Good thing Sony had a lot of PSP news... lol

[ApocalypseShadow]

sony had more games and precision motion tracking.not flailing around like an idiot.

sony did motion control on ps2 and although it is great fun,sony knew that controls need precision to work in most games after that.

microsoft used their check book to add all that flash with celebrities,but sony in the end had more games to show.

apocalypse..................

[skatezero246]

his name explains it all lol to each there own I guess .... to me Sony blew the roof off with announcements/showings, and the psp go with a list of new games. really good stuff in my opinion

[SH3MRON]

You are gonna see almost every site saying that MS won E3. I'm surprised it happened that way. I'm a huge Sony and MS fan love both consoles (Hate RROD btw). But the Project Natal looks like a lot of fun to play with your family on my case my son and nephews. for games I love MS did not had anything other that the MGS steal, Forza and COD but on the Sony side they have MAG and I hope its at least half as good as they say. But dam MS and their big pockets. Still Sony needs to wake up cause competition is strong.

[Rowsdower]

its science

now stop searching for lost civilizations and go back to school

tell'em Zap sent you.

[kewlkat007]

other then their console of choice. Nintendo showed some decent games and Sony had a pretty good line-up(PSP, PS3) but thier motion stuff was all Wii Plus and with a late minute half-assed presentation, which seems like it was done the night before.

I could go on all day but were talking about the latest buzz after the show and MS wins hands down.

I guess you could say everyone wins but wre talking about lasting impressions.

[NegativeCreep427]

I find it so funny how this is the ONLY source that gives all the top honors to Microsoft at E3.

[Mr Face Creamer]

And what site has said that Sony won?

I shall be awaiting thy midnighth till dawn for your reply.

[Spike47]

it tells you who the pathetic ones are.

AS FOR PROJECT NATAl, We've seen this before, and until it is implemented in serious games, then it is nothing but an Eyetoy gimmick.

[nightfallfilms]

I love it when a fanboy calls other fanboy pathetic what does that make you. One needs to only look at your past comments to see what a fanboy you are. Not to mention your ignored by what 41 users.

[SaberEdge]

Maybe so, but you PS3 fanboys would claim Sony won even if they had a completely poor showing. That's how you guys are. It doesn't matter how good Microsoft does you will always try to downplay it and no matter what Sony shows you will always hype it to no end.

Sony had a really good showing. Nevertheless, for most people Microsoft's was more impressive on multiple levels.

[TheBand1t]

And yet, by the end of the day, I could not give a flying eff about who people think won E3.

Sony's controller looked like a dildo, and Natal isn't something that would persuade me to purchase an Xbox.

Sony gave me the games I was interested in, much like I bet Microsoft gave you Xbox owners what you wanted.

'Nuff said.

[saimcheeda]

How did they win e3???yes they stole a game thats multi but thats it!!Saying they won is foolish!

[phantomexe]

LMAO How MS won the show.MS had the worst showing and i'm not a big fan of sony but if i had to pick top to bottom i'd say sony,nintendo then ms.Sony and nintendo would be real close.Halo just don't give me the wow it once did.Funny thing about the show was sony and ms trying to copy nintendos success.They both failed

[Gun_Senshi]

Cnet should be banned

[Ninjamonkey]

Natal was very good but personally I still think they need a controller to go with it otherwise hardcore games just wont work...

sonys was still good, they showed off a ton of great games, and their motion sensing tech. It didnt have the wow factor of Natal but at least it would work with a game like COD6 or KZ2.

Games wise: sony
feature addition: MS
Entertainemtn value: MS

though personally the last one doesnt matter as that wont make games better, MS cleary won with Sky and that but games wise sony beat them.

So it depends on what you want more, the features, the games, motion control, whatever.

[Xbots]

After M$ conference i was with Don Mattrick in the toilet........
oh my he was so good....

[nostalgic_noob]

Simply because he was promoting a Peripheral and later on in the show The guy who was showing off Natal made fun of anyone using a Peripheral....that makes no sense....
they showed off a mulitplatform Rockband and Call of duty.
a Halo 3 expansion pack and a Old trailer of FF13 with 5 seconds of new footage.........Microsofts conference was one of the worst in E3 history.

[yoghurt]

This is hilarious, Microsoft had a very good show, I thought after theirs they had it in the bag - until I watched Sony's and realised they were not going to put on a half hearted performance, every minute of Sonys was brilliant and something new, loads of exclusives and new things to get excited about

[phantomexe]

i'm shocked there ms fanboys at all.THis being N4PS3.I find it hard to beleave that if you want ms news or nintendo news you come to this site at all.This is a heavy trolled ps3 site and i mean heavy.Ps3 guys get bored when theres lack of ps3 news then jump to the nintendo forms and start bashing games or other people.This site bad

[nostalgic_noob]

More and more people are starting to see the Bullshit that Microsoft Is. They offer the consumer a Broken Product and release the same 3 games over and over again, they abuse the marketplace and all in all shows the symptoms of being an Evil Coorporation. No one wants to be apart of them and are jumping to Sony, for which is known for Quality.
Sony Provides us with Quality Games and Variety. If a gamer does not own a Ps3 he is not a gamer at all.

[phantomexe]

i own all 3 and the wii gets the most play time.

[nostalgic_noob]

Casuals, Kids, Soccer Moms and college douchbags that think Halo is a good game Think Microsoft won.
Hardcore Gamers and People with a brain who know how think for themselves. know Sony won.

[subzero9]

CNET = GameSpot
GameSpot = Xbots
GTFO, only thing that was good at M$ Con. was Milo, everything else was CRAP! GTFO, Sony won for sure

[pshizle]

the home of the sony fans.

[CypH]

none of it was live? Sony showed everything live, and nintendo. I'm talking about the motion controller. where was Microsoft? not even tony hawk ride, he just showed it then the trailer played out. Im starting to think that elephant act was good.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

be so hard on CNET.

They are not the only ones saying this, polls all over the net say the same thing, and so do most of the big game sites. Even the major gaming podcasts are unanimous in their opinion that MS won the show.

You Sony fans really need to stop taking this stuff so personal, Sony doesn't deserve that kind of fanatical support. You should be supporting the company that does the most for gamers, and this gen that just isn't Sony.

[yoghurt]

Ok, so exactly what is Microsoft doing for 'gamers' over the next 2 years - tell me i'm curious?

Let me know when it even comes close to Sony's line up of exclusives (and not JUST sequels either) and multiplatform games

[Flewid638]

Is like saying WalMart is on top because they sell more products than anyone else.

You get what you pay for.

[nostalgic_noob]

Thats true Cheap things sell more.
Same reasons why cheap cars sell more than Expensive cars.
Shhitty fast food sells more than fine dining.
Cheap, Broken useless consoles sell more than quality consoles

[El Padre]

...and that's why PSN is free.

Sorry, couldn't help myself, I actually own a PS3 and have nothing against PSN.

[tiamat5]

Strange. I must have been watching some other E3. Wasn't it Microsoft who showed multiplatform games and tried to make it seem that it was theirs only.Or didn't anyone hear the loud cheers that Sony got when they showed there stuff while Microsoft was the only ones clapping themselves during the whole presentation. Or didn't anyone notice that no one else was as ecstatic about putting Twitter and Facebook on the system as Microsoft was. Or that no one in the audience seemed to be as impressed with the Natal system as everyone made it seem.Or that Sony's wand seemed more realistic then the claims that Microsoft made with the Natal. Or that many of the things they showed aren't coming until next year.I didn't see anything stolen. Just Microsoft exaggerating how great they are again.

[protekjv]

keyword: "stole"

[-MoOkS-]

All ps3 fanboys should sign up to gamespot.com and got to the system wars forums.

You would all get ripped apart by thousands of 360 owners. It would be hilarious to watch.

[nostalgic_noob]

Difference is that We ps3 owners know which is better because we are playing games like Killzone 2, Infamous etc etc while they have no games so they resort to games that came out in 2006.
http://img.photobucket.com/...

There is no point in Owning a Xbox 360 if you have a computer.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Leave the Wii360 kidds alone. In one day they went from loving "hardcore" games and gaming to jumping around thier living rooms looking like little kids.

It is sad really I almost feel like it is a step back. Controllers will never die and motion controls will be the most exciting to the casuals.

[saimcheeda]

at gamespot....i never see anybody getting owned...now if theres a topic concerning M$ and a ps fan comes there obviously he will get cornered fool...just like u are now!!

[talltony]

lol you mean the same way you get ripped apart here?

[BlackSpartan187]

To me it is all about the games, we buy game systems to play games that should be the most important reason. Twitter and Facebook I can get on my PC, it not that important.

So, lets look at the games for both companies.

Forza 3 for M$ Vs Gran Turismo 5 for Sony - even ( xbox fanboys will say Forza 3 is better and Sony Fanboys ditto.)

Splinter Cell Conviction and Metal Gear: Rising for M$ Vs Metal Gear Rising and Metal: Peace Walker for Sony. - Even ( everybody is making a big deal about MG:R for Xbox 360, but it is coming for the PS3 also., and Splinter Cell Conviction is coming to the PC also, plus this could be timed exclusive)
Crackdown 2 vs Infamous - Sony wins this for now we do not know how good crackdown will be

Little Big Planet (PSP) and Mod Racer - Sony all day

Final Fantasy Series - Sony ( Microsoft is only getting FF13 for now, Sony FF14, FF13 , FF 13 versus , and two FF games on PSP in the future.)

PSN and XBL games - even (there is a ton of great stuff for both systems you can not go wrong on either)

Halo ODST vs Uncharted 2- Even ( different genres , but the two best exclusive for both systems this holiday system, both will be awesome games)

Other Futuregames: GOW 3, Heavy Rain, Last Guardian vs Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach - Sony ( The top three Exclusive for both systems for the future looks real good on both sides, but if you have a good PC you can play Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 without an Xbox and you can't argue with GOW 3 and Last Guardian.)

I know there are other games, but these where the big guns, and we have to see how the motion control gimmicks work in the future to get overly excited about those.

All and all the PS3 gets the edge for E3, base on the games only because that is what's gaming is all about. Everything else is just extra.

[moeqawama]

Once again, Cnet blows microsoft

[Jeff257]

Out of all the shows I think Sony did the most to give something to gamers. MS is not giving people the exclusive new IPS people are asking for. instead they show multiplatform titles trying to pass them off as if they are exclusive. The Whole Natal thing looks like a glorified Eyetoy. Sony learned last gen to make true hardcore style games using that tech you need Buttons which is why they are developing the motion controls. Also Ive seen many people complain about the amount of PSP stuff they showed but as a owner of a PSP I say its about time they gave us some more games to play on it. The really good PSP titles have been few and far between but that looks like it will be changing. Also the whole full game download stuff is not New to consoles. Sony has a few titles right now that you can already buy on PSN and with a little work could just as easily do it with more titles. Not to mention with the introduction of the PSP Go they show they are committed to Digital Download. Anyway Sony had the most New stuff to show at the conference and are still the ones leading the way with great titles that push gaming further.

[yoghurt]

Someone tell me if i'm wrong - but the halo video, not sure which one. He was walking around FPS style, but when he climbed ladders, you dont even see hands or anything, he just floats up? and then turning them valves the same thing, they just mysteriously turn? is that for real? where are his hands and getting the player immersed into the gameplay???

http://www.gametrailers.com...

I was right, valve turning at 1.18, 1.26, 1.38 and ladder climbing with no hands at 1.48...weird?

[Figboy]

i remember back when people would say that Microsoft won E3 because of GAMES.

now, they win because of Twitter, Facebook, and EyeToy: 360 Style.

f*cking EYETOY 360 won E3 for Microsoft? REALLY??

i guess

demoing Uncharted 2
demoing MAG
demoing motion control technology that actually looks like it f*cking WORKS
demoing God of War 3
announcing new IP ModNation Racers
announcing new "console exclusive" Final Fantasy XIV Online
announcing new Rockstar exclusive Agent
announcing new IP The Last Guardian from revered developer Team Ico
announcing a sh*tload of new PSP games

and quite a few more don't count much these days.

CNET has always been a joke, but this is ridiculous.

at least Sony showed a BUNCH of games, with 95% of them being exclusive (even though Assassin's Creed 2 PS3 gets exclusive weapons when connected to the PSP version, it's still multi-plat).

un-be-fricking-lievable.

i mean, damn, even when Sony brings the games hardcore, they STILL can't win an E3, and those weren't even all of the games they had their (there was simply no room to cover all the PSN games, Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time, Demon Souls, White Knight Chronicles, and Heavy Rain in their 2 hour conference, but they were still at E3).

yeah, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, and Halo are cool and all, but hell, Miss Cleo could have predicted those being at E3.

there were genuinely NO surprises at Microsoft's E3 showing this year, whereas Sony actually had some products that WEREN'T leaked before hand (ie, Resident Evil PSP, ModNation Racers, Final Fantasy XIV), and they demoed God of War 3, and it looked FANTASTIC.

like i said in another comment a few days back, Sony can't win for trying.

when the gaming media is adamant to paint you in a bad light, they WILL. perception of the PS3 has been tainted by the gaming media since E3 2006, and even when the console itself is improving by leaps and bounds when it comes to features and software, they STILL can't give it credit where it's due.

incredible. seriously. this blatant attempt by the media to destroy the Playstation reputation is quite remarkable to behold. they are REALLY pulling for Microsoft to win this one, and even when Sony is fighting back HARD with some pretty stellar first and second party exclusive titles, places like CNET, Kotaku, Penny Arcade, etc, will NEVER let it be enough to impress them. but hey, Team Ninja is working on a Metroid game, so that's TOTALLY enough for Penny Arcade to forgive Nintendo for the joke that is the Wii.

whatever. this generation is a frigging JOKE when it comes to game coverage from the media.
at least these smaller scale game blogs tend to have a genuine PASSION for gaming, even if some of them are unprofessional, with a few being outright fanboyish.

[Unicron]

PS3 has no games remember? This is still 2006 apparently man. And any of the amazing games they DO show "don't count" because it's apparently not about the games any more. Time to a pick a new reason to own consoles.

I'm going to laugh my ass off when CNET starts writing about how Xbox 360's new BluRay drive "gives it the edge" and "Sony was foolish to implement BluRay so early!"

Also, Don Reisinger "article," LOL.

[Figboy]

at how the goal post keeps getting moved.

in 2007, when the 360 had Halo 3, Gears of War (still killing from 2006), Bioshock, Mass Effect, and mostly superior multi-plat titles, that was enough to "win" E3.

in 2008, when all it had was more Halo, a Final Fantasy XIII surprise announcement, and not much else, that was enough to "win" E3.

in 2009, when they announce more multi-plats, more Halo, and *cough* Twitter and Facebook. not to mention a video service on what has been touted as a "Games ONLY" machine for the past 4 years, and now that it's jumping on the "multi-media" boat, it's suddenly alright and acceptable.

Sony shows game after game, exclusive after exclusive, and it's NOT ENOUGH.

absolutely unreal.

in the end it doesn't matter, i suppose. the PS3 is the only place to get games like Resistance 2, MGS4, Little Big Planet, Uncharted 1 and 2, inFAMOUS, MAG, Gran Turismo 5, Ratchet and Clank Future (TOD, QFB, and ACIT), Heavy Rain, God of War 3, etc, and there is, LITERALLY, nothing on other consoles like them.

as a Playstation 3 owner, i get to experience some truly fantastic games that are accomplishing things far beyond the competition, and aren't relying on Unreal Engine 3 to cover up truly generic, derivative gameplay with "shiny" graphics.

i own a 360, but i have to say that i've yet to play a game on that console that is pushing the industry forward in ANY way, shape, or form. good times? hell yes. but nothing that has dropped my jaw. at ALL. hell, i've yet to see a 360 game match the character animations and detail of Heavenly Sword, let alone Uncharted and Uncharted 2!

end rant.

[Britney Spears]

M$ had a terrible conference,multiplatform games and pc ports.

[ironmonkey]

sony had more better titles period lol america gets the buzz from ms but the world is more interested in what sony's got. ill be putting my hard earned money into those ps3 games and as for xbox i cant wait to download them:) they aint worth jack

[mirroredderorrim]

If you look at this from a gamer's perspective, M.S had a strong showing, but technically, if you want to get down to who "won E3" (eyeroll) then it has to be Sony. Denial is a b!tch.

Also, that thing about Shigeru Miyamoto's comment on how Super Mario bros. Wii can only be done on the Wii... LOL.

I wonder if he meant that because it's a 1st party title more so than it having anything to do with Wii's processing power.

[Redgehammer]

i guess endgadget, gizmodo, cnet, ign, times uk, pcworld just to name a few are all on MS's payroll as well? sometimes i am convinced this site should be News4lamers. Google natal, then look at the news articles about it, you will find that there is a disproportionate number of positive reviews. Also, if you read the articles where people actually had hands on time, the positive reaction even seems to trend higher.

[Unicron]

Natal is awesome, and MS had a great showing. Just like Sony. But if you don't know Don Reisinger's biased history, look up his inflammatory CNET articles. The guy is a fanboy, a joke, worse than even N4G standards hidden under a guise of "professionalism."

I also want to know how one "wins" E3... I'd say its pretty subjective. Why are they more correct in their opinion than I am in my own, since I game for ME?

[knightoftears]

My God I bet the M$ execs love when this guy comes to meetings because they know he will spend the whole time on his knees in front of them. He's the one who needs to wake up from that concusion he sustained from all the M$ execs hitting him in the face with their #@#%$.

[resistance100]

Didn't Cnet already grade Sony's higher in a different article?

[kilzone4]

LOL what did Mcsoft show that was so UNBELIVABLE??? the mgsR?? lol its multyplatform. the Natal?? the ps3 motion control look just as good and it was a dang prototype. MCSOFT didnt show any new exclusives that we didnt know about. l4d2??? uhm sry but looks the exact same as the first. Alen Wake. LOL thats trying to compete with heav rain? sry it jsut looks like a silent hill ripoff. and wtf they actually anounced another halo game??? u gata be crapping me. is al mcsoft can do is milk out the only franchsise the 360 has.... and basiaclly that was it. Ps3 had an amazing psp lineup that werent expected(some were leaked no sonys fault) mgs game, resident evil game, and others for the psp were announced and also the psp go witch was OUTSTANDING. Sony actually showed AAA games. such as the Uncharted 2 gameplay demo witch was flawless and so was the EPIC God of war 3 demo. The motion controller looked interesting and worked pretty damn good for a prototype and the crowd ate it up. It can also be used for hardcore games this coming soon. The agent witch sounds interesting and its rockstar games i mean cmon the only game that was dissapointing by them was gta4 and thats cus the hype. MAG seems awsome. just needs some touching up. its a 256 tactical game with a lot of applications and A WIDE VARIETY OF CHOICES FOR EVERYTHING. and best of all NO LAG. Sony showed the games with year unlike mcsoft did. all they talked about were the 360's hardware witch fails anyway. and a lot of the games they showed were multyplatforms. Oh and the codmw2 gameplay was dissapointing it embaresed mcsoft in my eyes for having it at theyr conference. the assassins creed 2 looked better and that was at the sony conference. alos the final fantasty online witch was surprising and no one expected it. modern nation racers seems to be a promising game providng that its using the create, play, share moto and thats a good direction to start in. sony won. they always won when it came too the ps2 and ps1. theyl win again.

[ShabzS]

well humph .. look i know i cant convince you .. i can sense that "tone" from ur comment... but all i have to say is

if u are a psp gamer ... and have been anticipating for some quality psp releases then this sony press conference was good for you .. you really got something good out of it ...

the thing is we still dont have any release dates for the major heavy hitting games on ps3 like heavy rain, gt5 and mag... and games like agent we have no clue about and can only wonder when it releases

the unbelieveable part of metal gear coming to 360 is that it is a metal gear game... i think the even more unbelieveable part is that some might have even been expecting it to come to the 360 this year... that is how generous microsoft has been to its 360 owners... u just know that they are gonna get it ...

and this is a franchise which is the heart and souls of sony ... taking it away is a pretty big deal i think

[kilzone4]

as i agree mostly with you. u called a tie between ODST and Uncharted 2... u gata be pullin my leg . even know theyr 2 different genres(dont no why u compared them then) Uncharted 2 is in its on league. ODST wouldnt stand a chance

[MajesticBeast]

I dont see natal happening anytime soon who knows sony might beat em to the punch with this tech they been doing this since early 2001. But seriously sony there pc was witty it had the games everyone wanted had 2 new ips none glitchy 1:1 motion controll uncharted 2 beat evry demo 360 had to show made it look like it was last gen sony didnt even had enough time for wkc heavy rain eye pet and plenty more but ye... microsoft won with twitter and facefail.

[xtremeimport]

Why must you feed the mouths of fanboys? MS did have a nice E3, but they did defiantly not steal the show. Sony had an excellent showing...Nintendo however...another boring show.

does cNet have some tie with MS?

[Saaking]

I just don't understand how anyone could say Microsoft "won." All they did was announce multiplatform games, more Halo, and of course the Natal Project. Now, though I will admit i prefer my PS3, I will also admit that I was impressed with Natal; however, seriously, what is the difference between the Milo demo and the Eyepet. Just look for a video of eyepet and it's basically the same thing. Just like Eydentify. Natal is just an overhyped PS3eye with the distinction of being slightly more advanced and useless in most games (I'm sure fighting games and racing games work good, but about FPS, RTS, RPGs?)

[bouncybullet]

After the show, Conviction is the only game I want to play this year.

Thats why Xbox won.

[TheNocturnus]

The 360 is a kick ass machine and is on par or better than the ps3. We get great games, you get great games. By the way, ha ha on the metal gear. You guys always said it would never come to the 360. I still wont get it, ( Because Metal gear was only cool on the NES ) but

[Makidian]

Actually it's a spin-off, that's why you bots get a copy, Kojima said it himself at Sony's presser. You guys still didn't get MGS4 which is the bigger deal of the two so I guess the ball still belongs to Sony on that one, you can bet that MGS5, or MG5, will be exclusive to the PS3. Peace Walker is gonna be sick to bad you can't play it on the portable Xbox, oh yeah it's because there isn't one and even if there was it wouldn't be exclusive.

On topic, Resinger has a total hard on for Microsoft and is in a permanent kneeling position in front of Don Matrick and Aaron Greenberg.

[RonDeMuerte]

It's only a Metal Gear game in name....the genius director/creator isn't working on it, and the game doesn't have Snake in it...who everyone loves to play as.....this is something else....they probably made it go multi-platform because they knew it wouldn't sell as much as MGS4....
The 360 on par with the PS3?....hahahahaha!! you believe that X-bot fairytale!!...hahahahaha!! then how come PS3 exclusives always look better than 360 exclusives??!!...

[MajesticBeast]

Ye 3 halo games in 2 years and the cow says moo and the man says got milk.

[divideby0]

this is a joke right ?

only game of intrest to me is AW...I dont like Halo MP, so its not that impt to me.

Project Nat. really got me intrested, but its a tech demo and I doubt it will run on the 360 the way we want it to run in a game (when sony shows tech demos they get dissed..lol)

facebook integration...lol yea..thats a winner

Sony was all about the games and thats why I game for games...

Whoever wrote this article probably doesnt game and just uses lame polls to make up his own mind

[GameScrubs]

Every comment on this damned site reeks of fanboy crap. OMG stop pulling out your e-c0ks out and enjoy your system or games.

I mean really, you guys blame the journalist as being biased, paid off, dumb or pathetic if his/her article doesn't fit your weird AGENDA!

If they throw a poll and based on their results they got a winner then why are you crying about it. When other sites throw a poll and the same results are happening WHY ARE YOU STILL ARGUING IT?

If you think Sony won...Good for you
If you think Xbox won...Good for you
If you think Wii won...Good for you

You don't have to agree with the author of the article and pointing out your reasons is cool with me. But bashing it with no concrete evidence, bias and arrogance is just dull.

Out of all the posts like 80% are troll fanboi spam.

Meh forget this site is way to dumb.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

And of course. Just like clock work. Sony fans fill the thread with 101 excuses. Sony fans believe that Sony won but journalists and true gamers know that Microsoft won it. Plain and simple.

[HDgamer]

True gamers know that nobody won except for the gamers of course and you're biased as the ku klux klan at a jury trial of OJ Simpson. True gamers don't pick a side then bash the others like fanboys do. I think it's safe to say you're just another disgruntled xbox fan.

[Bizmal]

So untrue, E3 over all was over hyped this year. But It still goes to Sony. When is Xbox live going to be worth paying for? When are you going to get something for online gaming that's worth $50.00 bucks? You still get non-dedicated host gaming that lags most the time and uses your OWN connection to host the games and you people pay for it. No Thank you. I have owned the Xbox since release and I play Ps3 and PC without the lag. It's mind blowing. Have you people ever checked to see what your "Down" and "UP" is while playing a game? Because if you did you would see the the "DOWN" is twice more then the "UP" is. Then check what your "Down" and "up" is on your connection. You will find that your down is Far higher. The Host uses his "UP" and thats why if your not the Host you lag. Get it straight people. I can get into 10 games before you can get in one on Gears or Halo. Those are facts.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Well that was a whole lot of nothing.

[silverchode]

so much fail, the only thing i remeber from the ms conference was mgsr at thats multiplatform. biased site maybe?

[air1]

thats right damnit! micro made sony look like a fool sony didnt even add new features to the psn hell they didnt even give any release dates for any game. thats sony for you..

[moparful99]

Umm every single playstation title that was shown (with the exception of gt5) was dated... Are you just trolling?

[air1]

no not trolling

i hope you prove me wrong show me the list with dates..

i know we should get uc2 this year i heard oct 1 is it true? and what else?!

[DeejayTai]

Their line-up was a little better than weak at best, and they bragged about Metal Gear, which isn't even a TRUE sequel(said by Kojima himself). Maybe 2 good exclusives and I'm being generous, Forza vs Gran Turismo? Come on. A Halo with no Master Chief? ok. And they're at the limits of progamming they can put on DVD.
360's looking at the present, Sony's looking to the future (PSP Go!!).
Microsoft got STOMPED, Nintendo was a non-issue.
Let's not even mention God of War 3.

[bouncybullet]

The only reason Hideo said that the peacewalker was a true sequel was only to help it appeal to fans more.
Because it looks like a piece of crap.

And yeah, a revised psp beats Alan Wake, Conviction, and Natal?

[GameScrubs]

"Their line-up was a little better than weak at best, and they bragged about Metal Gear, which isn't even a TRUE sequel(said by Kojima himself)"

This one is bugging me alot. And the answer is sooooooooooo. I mean the goal was to get Kojima to make an MGS game for XBOX. Wheter it's a spinoff or you got the perception that Kojima didn't care is irrelevant. It's even showing up on your PS3 for christ sake and now all of a sudden all of you guys have PSP's and are going to play the REAL so called version. This is another statement to prove that Sony > MS. WOW sir WOW

"Forza vs Gran Turismo? Come on"
Ok that is your opinion how does that affect how others feel about forza. Why do you think your argument wins?!?!

"And they're at the limits of progamming they can put on DVD. "

Am I the only one that remembers that Resistance used most of the BD
because they had to repeat images on different sectors of the disk to improve load times?

Am I the only one that has the mandatory installs on almost all the games? I mean even MGS4 had them but they embedded them inside the game unlike others that did it on the initial one.

Both systems have their problems, bringing this issue up adds nothing to the discussion other than to prove that somehow your ps3 is better than the xbox.

[bouncybullet]

Sony's motion control made me feel sorry for them.

It's almost as if they got so intimidated by natal that they decided to show they're "prototype" at the last minute.

horrible.

it's just a wii-mote wannabe.

[Mr_Controversy]

Microsoft has won, all you hear about is their show. You don't hear anything from the other sides, LOL. Every news, website, magazine, radio show talks about Microsoft mind-blowing announcements!

[7thNightvolley]

lloool u guys crack me up..

here they bless cnet coz they said sony was first
http://www.n4g.com/events_e...

now they blast it coz it said MS was best. loool.. u guys are something u know ..lool. ... just incredible

[bjornbear]

Its same site, different reviewer. One is unknown and doesn't have any history of being biased. The other is an infamous fanboy to the absolute limit.

Next time, check your sources ;)

[7thNightvolley]

its cnet. and how sony fannys reacty to anything positive to the 360 in anyway they trash it. no matter if its clear its something really interestingly good.

[Shuhei Yoshida]

Of course Microsoft won, gaming journalists are idiots. HAHAHAHA!

We all know we at Sony and you gamers were the real winners. Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo PSP and God of War III or Microsoft's pedo simulator? HAHAHAHA!

[N4GayFanturds]

After seeing the beautiful presentation of MS's Natal and the next day when Sony rolled out a table (as if it was stored in a broom closet backstage), to demo their motion controller!

What a shamble!

And where's all the PSN upgrades? Oh yeah, a few days later, Sony announces Picture Sharing (a year late and mega$$$ short), for which they will charge for! ROFL And Sony fans put down paying $50 per year for a service that continues to improve in leaps and bounds and is vanguard in the online business!

Prepare for more subtle fees here and there PS3 owners. Talk about nickel & dimeing people!

[bjornbear]

It's sad =/ everyone had dug up so much on Sony, then they say "they didn't surprise". Well HELLO? Everyone IGNORED Microsoft, totally unhyped it, and BOOM "WOW it was SO SURPRISING"...god get real.

All i have to say to ALL these reviewers is:

In life, expect nothing, and you will never be let down.

[General Jewels]

Yep i agree, MS kept quite all this time, to releasr multiple bombshells on the competition, oh wait i though sony meant to have a good line up this year? nope. MS destoryed the competition, and sony again with thier poor E3 showing and thier hannah montana exclusives.

[keysy420]

microsoft conference was alittle stale and you cant play games with nothing. wanna bet try to fake drive right now and see how lon g you hold your arms out. next stay up till 1 oclock in the morning and play a inter active game not gonna happen.it a eye toy hatrdly something to get excited about and were are the games. no new ips they are like rookies at this. its like lebron and kobepeople want lebron to be more than he is thats m$ but kobe the experienced vet gets the job done and is in the finals again killing under pressure sony

[DevilNinja420]

As A wii owner Id have to say sony won for sure, this is just marketing spin, MS pays Volcom Media to do advertising, volcom owns most of the sites we read from , so do expect to hear anything great about nintendo or sony compared to MS lol.

[air1]

yes thats right microsoft owns the world and soon they will own sony.

[Ilikegames76]

defensive. Yeah MS won, just like they make the most reliable console, just like they have the most first party developer, just like they have the most intelligent gamers... oh wait, I was talking about Sony.

[P_Bomb]

*looks above*

Wow. Spellcheck and 4th grade reading and writing comprehension are your friend.

People, Don Reisinger wrote the article. Even the fanniest of fanboys knows by now the guy's a tool and can't be quoted. It's like Jack Thompson, the guy's got such an agenda you just can't take him seriously. Next.

[JustOne]

Hahahahahaaha, this is really funny, now they make Micro$hit the winner !

But this is not surprising, Micro$oft own a big media network (specially in USA) and they know well how to market their crappy products .. they have some bad ass strategies on how to eat up peoples mind, believe me I'm a professional marketer .. .

Two new Halos ? Oh wait, soon there will be Halo kart, Halo Tennis, Halo superstar ... .

Natal ? Sony already did that years ago with the PSEye and Eyepet ! if you've never heard about Sony Eyetoy just do your research on youtube (Eyedentify, Eyetoy PS3, pseye)and tell me if I'm wrong. now M$ makes it like they have invented a revolutionary tech blah blah and all the dump media talks about it and the idiots people believing...

Poor Sony, High quality hardware console, Tons of Quality and real next gen games, creativity, diversity and unique games (not only tons of shooters with one stupid story saving the world from aliens lol) and you're still get the third place this gen and hated by many people .. .

Enough said, Honestly and for me I'll give :

Sony 9/10 - was expected to see more but I think they kept some stuff for the soon Tokyo game Show .

Microsoft 8/10 - 2+ only coz they got the big Kojima in their stage .

Nintendo 6,5/10 - still better than the past year huh !

[Silly gameAr]

That was what got to me. But game wise, PS3 hands down. Only so much Halo you can take.

As for MGS Rising? I saw that coming. It was really no surprise. But seeing Natal in action was.

[KingKionic]

@eddie20101
you are a fanboy you say that natal is a slight upgrade to whats available. are you made that your extended piece of crap eyetoy is going to fail like the first one, mad that you will never have 1080p instant on. these are all facts why anger over videogames and content shouldnt be what decides what games you like. i was gonna say sony had an all right conference. but now you can take sony and wipe your as$ with that company fanboy

[tonywood24]

Microsoft didn't still anything! WOW..another Halo, Mass Effect, and ALAN WAKE....this is enough to still E3 hu? All of the heavy hitters were announced as multiplats. Gettign MGS and Final Fantasy were huge.

[shikwan]

You shoul "still" a spellchecker!

[JustV]

First of all, Natal was nothing I was impressed by. Ive been using PS3 Eye-toy, And its almost the same thing. You control things with your hands etc the same. Natal was just a tweak. therefore I also think Sony motion control was not impressive either because that was a tweak of Nintendo. But I think Sony did beat Microsoft with all the incredible exclusives. I couldn't believe they threw the Final Fantasy XIV. That's like slap on the face for Microsoft getting FFXIII LOL, and then say: hey whatever we got FFXIV...haha:) Modnation looks really fun. God Of war 3 just stole E3 itself lol...Metal Gear Rising is coming to Ps3 anyway!!

[Xiru]

Sony did win in the games front. Both MS and Sony's motion control was neat and I like to see gaming head towards new technology, but games are all that matter in gaming and Sony has the best lineup.

[KingKionic]

@eddie 20101
again dumba$$("If you looked at Sony's demonstration and didn't see the
potential for real 3 dimensional gaming that felt more realistic than waving your hand and moving your feet with invisible objects, there is something wrong with you.") if you didnt see the conference then shut up microsoft already said that they want to eliminate the controller,"it is a barrier for people who arent used to them and they are trying to make the technology usable for everyone you naive boy.

[KingKionic]

@ everyone
stop comparing natal to the eyetoy really, if you want to go down that road ill go right with you. to all you people who don't know nintendo wii is a copy of the eyetoy. ps3 has a marketplace, before they did xbox had amarketplace. the ps3 bites off of xbox,achievements=trophies,son y cany make their own stuff.

hate it or love it natal is here to stay and sell millions more of 360s then ps3s.
feel free to agree

[Xiru]

Will it? All we have seen is a video... Wait till we see it in action before you declare it will sell millions of 360's. Keep in mind that it is an addon. People are lazy and dont buy addons. The reason Wii is so successful is because the motion control comes with the system. Natal does seem like a glorified eyetoy. What makes it so different? Eyetoy has recognition and can sense movement. On that note, I don't think the PS3 motion control wand thingy will boost units that much for the same reason.

[KingKionic]

oh and another thing. sony stole m$ game joyride and made mod nation

[gumgum99]

Everyone seems confident that this technology will change gaming.

I hope they have that same confidence when the thing actually releases with tangible games.

[fallingdove]

Irony is a ground commonly tread by fanboys. Ironic, that the same fanboys that for months have scoffed at nintendo for their "gimmicky" controls, and have discounted Sony for its "less than impressive" controller-less eye toy input - now applaud Microsoft for its Natal efforts at redefining gaming? And as a result, they 'won' E3? I am glad that everyone is happy that Microsoft took the pile of sh t on the lawn and crafted it into a bigger pile of sh t. Wonderfull.

I really hope something changes in the gaming industry soon. Frankly, I am sick of the leaching microsoft copy cat model, I am sick of Nintendo and their 'old folks market expansion', and I am sick of Sony and their pompus attitude.

Give me something compelling, give me something original. Gaming: I am tired of your perpetual mediocrity.

/rant.

[ToeKneeHaze]

uh owning both consoles. xbox guys gave me nothing to look forward too...especially with Kojima not even directing that side spin off of Metal Gear

so how did MS wipe the floor at E3?

someone is on crack

[Mr_Potato_]

Well, mummy refused to buy them a PS3 and they're angry since they had no AAA exclusives since last november.

Please forgive them.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

It's because M$ pays everyone to be on their system. They have won the show but the war isn't over yet.

[lowkey db josh]

ok soo ive been seeing all these articles on natal and i have to laugh they had it hooked up to a pc while sony had theres hooked up to the ps3.. uhhh microsoft showed alan wake an splinter cell which looked awesome but sony had MAG,Uncharted 2, GoW3, and a private room with GT5 which from what i heard blows Forza out.. but anywayz sony won best in show ms was 2nd and nintendo was 4th behind the psp go lol... anywayz does it matter who won we get games in the end so we win... p.s- Modern warfare 2 will blow everything out!

[tiamat5]

The only reason journalists say Microsoft won is that Sony is in third place right now. Microsoft and Nintendo can go around doing whatever they want making half @$$ed generic games, let their systems breakdown, make the same game over and over again. But as soon as Sony does anything that isn't perfect everyone is all over them. No one mentioned that Microsoft and Nintendo are milking their franchises to death. It "Wow another Mario game in space" or "Wow another Halo, Splinter cell or World War 2 game" Where are Nintendo's new characters? Where are Microsoft's platformer, adventure games or fighting games. Just Mario again and shooters and racers.It's amazing how no matter how big the three companies have grown they are still the same. Sony is still the big risk taker, Microsoft still can't make a decent game unless it involves guns and killing everyone and Nintendo is still milking their mascots dry instead of being innovative.

[Xiru]

I love how everyone says Microsoft won e3 again. Just like last year. Sony had the better games and lineup, but one announcement made MS win. Same thing this year. MS rips the eyetoy and they magically win with a sub par games lineup. Eh, to each his own I guess. Sony won in my eyes, just like last year.

[shikwan]

In business, companies BUILD UPON other peoples ideas or inventions all the time.

It's how you got from an audio cassette tape, to CD, to MP3s. If MS or Sony actually 'copied' something, they'd be in direct violation of federal laws such as copyrights and patents (which both have experation periods).

So let's look at 'BUILD UPON':

Eyetoy - Camera w/mic that recognizes gestures (movements and can 'hear' sounds via a mic.

Natal BUILDS UPON this (the idea)by including; Motion capture, facial recognition and voice recognition technologies. Initself, it is a totally new technology - no one has ever combined these techs together for any entertainment device.

Please don't use you tiny little pebble to try and convince people that the eyetoy could recognize distinctive faces and voices.

Besides, the presentation of Sony compared to MS was third-world ugly!

[Silly gameAr]

Eternal Champions FTW.

[bilbobob]

why do you people think that M$ got anything Metal gear but the name. Metal gear solid IS and always will be Solid Snake.(to true MGS fans). The words out of THE mans mouth himself were, the true next Metal Gear Solid was Peace Walker. The reiden game will be," a new MGS experience", which im going to bet is a NGS type game. Look at the history of reiden in the games, he is about as stealthy as an elephant in a china shop.

Facts, just the facts. I look forward to the disagrees. Those people need to watch and listen a bit more closely.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

"You can say what you want about Microsoft and its Xbox 360. But at this year's E3, it made the competition look foolish. "

yea.....well i say it made itself looks foolish.

seriously,thats friggin retarded.

[kaveti6616]

Guns. Lots of Guns.

[devilhunterx]

so when is project natal coming out?

[MADPIRAHNA]

for the article that reads, "CNET continues to stroke MS"

[rjackson1]

Sony got body slam by Microsoft that's what come to mind when I saw Microsoft conference at E3.Still some arrogant ps3 fanboys do not know when the sky just fell on them.Here the just facts!Xbox 360 sales top Sony's PS3 by 8 million units before E3.And with Xbox 360 Sees Record Growth in 2009.Now we know it sucks to be a sony fanboy right now!But i hope the ps3 do better because if this was a fight ps3 would be D.O.A.

[Lawliet]

Ya...
Where's article like
"Alan Wake didn't live up to expectation"
"EPIC disappointing E3 Announcement"

Not trying to act like a b!tch here, but you get my point. They started it ... Let's not deny.

[Lipscomba]

Not!!!!!!!

[VanHalen]

Sony 1st, Nintendo 2nd, MS 3rd. Not impressed with Microsoft at all.

[Mr Face Creamer]

You said the Metal Gear Solid franchise was never coming to the 360, but now that Raiden is coming to the 360, you guys are spewing bullsh1it such as "spin-off" "Kojima doesn't like it" and "Peacewalker ftw!" .

You have to admit defeat $ony slaves, and now is the time to do it. (for the 55th time)

[Kill Crow]

Peace walker's a psp title lol ... that must be a demotion for Kojima !!!!

[Power_Of_Flops_]

Nope kid, that's what Kojima said, watch the videos of Sony conf, the real next MGS - HE said - is the MGS : Peace Walker featuring Big Boss. MGS4 team works on this one only, and so does Kojima.

In the Famitsu interview he clearly states MGSR is an action spinoff wanted by Konami but he doesn't work on it (so it's no real MGS).

Sorry to burst your bubble. /kiss

[kornbeaner]

at the article and the author of the article.

[somelikeithot]

the only thing they stole was every idea from Sony and nintendo!!

[bjornbear]

...but i don't think i need to mention any of them ;)

[deividpaulo]

I wanna to play GAMES not to dance BALLET...

Sony conference show me games and M$ show me ballet...uaheauehuehe

Its perfect to you...americans a**holes

[jarhead906]

I'm American but the guys got a point lodged somewhere in here... I'm sure of it.

[jeseth]

Instead of bolstering their own dev team they PAY for exclusives from Sony because they lack the talent to make fresh new IP's themselves.

That's all Microsoft showed me. Same as last year. They had a good showing, better than Nintendo's but in my opinion not as good as Sony's.

Sony showed several new EXCLUSIVE IP's along with blockbuster EXCLUSIVE games. They also showed their motion sensing tech work on a PS3 in REAL TIME. Not some well produced video. They also mentioned the release of Lost Planet 2 and showed Bioshock 2.

But if someone thinks what Micorsoft is better than there's no point arguing because they are just stubborn and bias.

This year, as has been for almost a year now, Sony brought the GAMES, Microsoft just showed what we already new was coming. MGS Rising is a nice addition but other than that...what new did they show? I watched the whole conference and enjoyed there show but I didn't think it bettered Sony's in Content.

[KingKionic]

FYI Sony stole bio shock from Microsoft , they had bio shock first

[General Jewels]

Woah Sony went so low that the ripped off Nintendos wii-mote......sonys wii-mote looked like a dildo, with motion plus, all i can say Sony Wii-mote wannabe. Uncharted 2 was excellent, other than that Sonys E3 was full of garbage, with PS2 games to PSP games. Whereas MS cut to the case, and showed Exclusive one by one to succession. MS owned Sony at E3 , everyone agrees on the internet, every website is suprised at MS e3 showing. and the dissapointment of Sonys E3. Mylo was to good to even match.

[shysun]

What about MS eye-toy rip off?

[jarhead906]

A lot of the internet is impressed with Microsoft's E3 conference because Microsoft has been doing something since the launch of the Xbox 360 that neither Sony or Nintendo has quite nailed down: appearance.

Something as insignificant as the E3 stage is a testament to how Microsoft has been largely successful just by having it appear that they are the most successful/best.

I'm not telling you your opinion is wrong. What I will tell you, however, is that you need to refine your arguments for why your opinion has any validity at all.

Your title itself just shows everyone here how most likely biased or ignorant you are. Calling Sony's 'PS-mote' nothing more than a gimmick or generic Wii-mote is akin to calling 'Project Natal' revolutionary. It's untrue.

To begin with, Sony's 'PS-mote' was shown to actually be working (BAM!). Secondly, at this point it is evident that it will be everything that Nintendo told us the Wii would be like, instead of a low grade IR sensor bar. The reason why proponents of the 'PS-mote' are excited is that, for starters, it isn't on a platform that caters to people who have never been interested in games before. The potential for actual games instead of mini-games with the motion controller is evident simply because it's on a system that caters to the average gamer (just like the Xbox 360).

Also, Sony's 'PS-mote' has 1:1 tracking. In addition, it also monitors body movement through the PS Eye by having an X, Y, and Z axis. These two things alone make the Wii look even more gimmicky.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

I can't wait to see the retards shake their head like monkeys on 'Natal' games in 2011 (if the 360 is not dead before).

I think the Natal jokes will ultimately replace the RROD jokes. It has 'failure' written on it : 200 $, no precision, no controller, Eyetoy PS2 ripoff, 1 second lag, already dismissed by devs like EA and by Tony Hawk. (EA boss already said PS3 tech was better).

Meanwhile, PS3 has a working technology (see the nice E3 demo) and gorgeous ready for release games (Eyepet, can't wait to play it with my nephews). Sony's strength ? They understood gamers need some kind of controller. Otherwise it's a useless gimmick. But go on masturbating, it will be fun to talk again about that in the years to come.

[donalbane]

CNET is a subsidiary of Microsoft.

Now, having said that, I thought Microsoft had the most impressive showing this year.

[Pintheshadows]

Great more of this who won E3 BS. I thought Sony and MS did ok. But neither blew the competition away. I see it like this, theres loads on each console I now want. I know this is supposed to be 360 vs PS3 but I thought the PSP came out best.

[shysun]

Funny how the spell out forty-four percent for Sony and not 44% like they did with MS and Nitty. Say what you want but thats some good old BS right there.

[RealtorMDandDC]

Sony..focus more exclusives games then features this year E3...and Sony fails...When SOny focus...on features and functions last year E3 they failed...M$ focus on mostly features and functions this year E3...and a VERY limited game lineup..they have an Epic show???????? WTF??

The quote below is from Tony Hawk refering to Natal??? "This makes me wonder"

“We actually tried to get [Tony Hawk Ride] running with a camera, but it wasn’t accurate enough. Plus you can’t really do ollies, grabs and flips when you’re just standing on nothing.”

In terms of who won...I own a 360 and PS3....at this present moment..I am more excited about my PS3..I more excited about the games...All the features M$ shown...for 360...PS3 can do...Facebook..Twitter....Down load entire Games from PSN......1080p streaming of movies......a camera that can replace or work in conjunction with your standard controller...PS3 Eye

How can you be excitied about multi-platfrom games.......

http://news.prnewswire.com/...

[xg-ei8ht]

http://www.gamersyde.com/ne...

Easily SONY WON.

Best new controller.
Best new games
Best upcoming titles
Best graphics

http://www.gamersyde.com/ne...

360 guys you know you want it.

[dogmeat eater]

they announced sony as the winner. Well, Cnet is owned by M$

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

with natal and a left for dead 1.5 (we all know the first one was half ass) a lame xbox live title and a lame looking halo game

[Mr_Potato_]

Natal is not revolutionary at all, the tech has been studied by Sony and Nintendo for years, so welcome in 2003 Microsoft.

Unlike PS3 or Wii Motion Control which you can use in games, Natal is completely useless except in stupid mini games since with no controller, you have no PRECISION and no FEEDBACK to play, which are two major components in gaming control.

EA boss already said PS3 motion control was better, and Tony Hawk already dismissed Natal too.

The 'BAM' video from the E3 where Natal completely messes up with Avatar legs is already up on youtube and everybody makes fun of microsoft. MS fans could quickly become the laughing stock of the gaming community with this product. My prediction : 'Natal' jokes will replace RROD jokes before 2011.

Natal has absolutely ZERO chance of success because :
- nobody wants to dance in the living room, gamers just want to SIT and PLAY.
- it lags 1 or 2 seconds
- without controller, lack of precision is quickly frustrating, that's why Sony chose to keep Eyetoy for CASUAL games, not HARDCORE games.
- it will cost 200$
- my grandfather has already bought a Wii
- it's not ready at all, Sony tech on the other hand Is ready (Eyetoy + Eyepet, Sony motion control)

And even as a Eyetoy ripoff, games like Eyepet are already ready and a hundred times better and funnier (watch the E3 videos).

Sorry to burst MS fans bubble, but really... Natal has 'FAILURE' written on its ugly head.

[vox]

first we heard how sony won
now they claim MS won
sadly no consensus
yes, sony showed off PSP go and their motion tech, and MS showed off motion tech and some other features
but as far as announcements.. I saw more exclusive games unveiled from nintendo at e3, and original IPs as well

[fightingILLINI]

this guy has played too much GAYLO and QUEERS OF WAR. sony won e3 with ease. GOD OF WAR 3, UNCHARTED 2, PSP GO, M.A.G., EYE PET, HEAVY RAIN, METAL GEAR PEACE WALKER, FINAL FANTASY 14, MODNATION RACERS, PS3 MOTION CONTROLLER, AGENT, THE LAST GUARDIAN, GT 5 FOR PS3 AND FOR PSP, RATCHET AND CLANK A CRACK IN TIME, DC UNIVERSE, TEKKEN 6, adn so on and so on. By the way these games are only on the PS3.

[mayberry]

Over 300!-watch sony's conf. again!

[tiamat5]

I agree. Microsoft is good at taking credit for things it ripped off. It's just like Gears of War. Everyone keeps talking as if that Microsoft invented the technique of of "run and gun". But in a game called Killswitch they had already done the same thing. Just like now Microsoft is doing exactly what Sony has right now. Look at the Eye Pet and the Eye of Judgement. Voice recognition, scanning,interactivity with things, full body movement. Microsoft is acting like this is something new but Sony had it all the time. But Microsoft is sneaky. Everyone thinks that they love them or something. But Microsoft is a underhanded, conniving company that would lie through their teeth if they could sell you more systems.

[Dannehkins]

LOL So apparently it is now fact? No my friend, it will forever be opinion as to whether a particular person found Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo the 'best'.

What a completely inane person.

[GameScrubs]

Xbox didn't win they had a really sucky presentation I mean "Project NATAL" What kinda crap is that, I don't wanna flail my arms around like an eeeeediot while playing games. They where boring as well C'Mon TWITTER or FACEBOOK. This is nothing people want NOTHING!

PS3 sucked as well, they showed the same thing as Microsoft, I don't wanna flail my arms around like an eeeeeediot while playing games. OMG games like MAG, GoW and Uncharted are whack they are boooooring!!!! Gamers don't want this THEY DON'T.

Nintendo was booooooooooooring, did they even show up?!?!? A new mario game and an new metroid. Jesus christ even more sequels, because you know Gears of war or God of war or Metal gear are not well uhmm sequels. Gamers don't want this at all nope denied.

EDIT:

I just reported myself as spam

[IrishAssa]

Honestly the ms conferance was better for random people who don't give a sh*t about games, sony's was much beter for me, Project Milo was amazing assuming itisn't scripted

[jarhead906]

Yeah, but it was scripted... and I don't think I need to have much proof to convince people with half a brain on their shoulders.

The whole point of the two videos shown at Microsoft's E3 conference was to show what they were envisioning for down the road. The only time it was actually showcased was during the ball hitting/block knocking-down sequence, which was largely Playstation Eye/Eye Toy quality.

[terrorofdeath]

Even though i am a PS3 fan, i think Project Natal is an incredible breakthrough in the gaming world. Sure its nice to have a controller to hold and the feel to pressing buttons, but the interaction with Project Natal is amazing. Sony had the chance to do this with the PS Eye, but lost the opportunity.

Wow, i am in awe of Microsoft's advances.

[TheOutsider]

All those pu**ys stole was another SONY game! cause they have to fork out billions just to compete with sony! and HA HA they get a Inferior version of the game! HA HA LMAO!

[devilhunterx]

Someone alert the police. We got a thief here.

[Toneman]

Wii and Mario sales will make MS look foolish!