Wait a second… Square Enix has a lineup of Xbox 360 titles?

Spencer writes,

Yes, according to the Infinite Undiscovery press release. Here is the eye catching statement, "the first in a completely new lineup of Square Enix titles for Xbox 360, this fantasy RPG (role-playing game) is a collaborative project with fan favorite development studio tri-Ace Inc."

"Completely new lineup?" Square Enix has openly supported the Xbox 360, but beyond the Last Remnant there aren't any other announced Xbox 360 games in the pipeline. Of course, Square Enix could and probably does have other Xbox 360 games in development regardless of the statement. The question has always been "how many" and lineup sounds like some.

[heyheyhey]

as long as you don't give them FF13..... its ok

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The Final Fantasy will come to the Xbox heyheyhey, I can't stand the games but it's comming. Square has a history of going to the console that makes them money, Xbox does that like no other. Anyone on my friends list will be removed if a FF title shows up in their gamerscore. All the PS3 will have left is MGS and I'm sure 5 will make it's way aswell.

[Obama]

ff13 is not comming to the xbox, don't worry. Even the head developers said it's programmed to be a ps3 exclusive.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

9 bubbles but you can't read, f**king idiot.

[Obama]

And if you have read my comment carefully u would realize that I am talking to heyheyhey, hence using the phase "don't worry". But anyways, I just wish the ff series will never land on your flopbox, which can't even handle ff 13.

[PopEmUp]

Of course the Final Fantasy will come to 360 but it's arrived in the next million years so then you can enjoy it, oh wait isn't you be dead by then LMAO HAHAHAAH!!! XD I hope to die

[gambare]

in a 25 dvd edition

[n to the b]

here we go, let's make fun of microsoft for not getting a release first/right away. yet most sony fans here will try and take it the other way when it works to their advantage and say, "we're getting Bioshock and Mass Effect!" yeah like a full year later...

[Pain]

nuff said.

[Bacon]

Well they're also doing The Last Remnant for Xbox 360 but it's multi-platform. Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII are PS3 exclusives.

[sonarus]

To be honest, i have a feeling that Msoft could steal E3 by announcing FFXIII or FFXIII VS as a multiplatform title. It would be a major blow to sony but it could definitely happen. Though the devs have said they are developing it 100% as a ps3 exclusive and expect it to remain that way, i wouldn't be surprised if MSoft paid in full for FFXIII.

As far as we know, there have been no statements being told on blu ray and all that. Though lost odyssey did take up 4 discs and FFXIII will likely be a bigger game. Its really hard to tell. Fanboys better keep your fingers crossed:D

[Darkiewonder]

yes, and they tried with MGS4 and look how that one turned out. There are some things worth trying but never will get ^^

[Rick Astley]

Drugs are bad. The chances of Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII going multi-platform are HIGHLY unlikely. Don't get their hopes up it's not funny lol. It's like saying MGS4 will go multi-platform. Do you really believe that Square-Enix are going to downgrade FFXIII down to DVD9 status? Come on man lol.

[sonarus]

@Rick, if Msoft was willing to pay enough to eliminate its system selling capabilities on the playstation 3 platform in the west(since they are dead in JP anyways) i would say they could definitely downgrade FFXIII to 4 dvd-9 discs just like lost odyssey

[rroded]

a decent rpg ip might b worth the coffin....

[thewhoopimen]

Personally I find it interesting that Square is putting that much focus on the 360. Not to flame any 360 fans here on the board, but Square's biggest market is still far and away Japan/Asia where the PS3 and Wii roost. With the well documented sales numbers of the 360 in Japan what gives? Where's the money doing this?
I can understand Mistwalker taking the plunge given that they are new to the business (I kno its all run by former square veterans, Shigeru and Uematsu)

The Japanese are an extremely proud people who support their domestic industry much like many 360 fans in the US are dyed-in-the-wool patriots who support Made in America Microsoft.

The only possible explanation is that someone besides Square/Tri-Ace/Mistwalker is funding these projects (think Microsoft of course). Personally, I think its a great strategy on the part of MS. Rather than spending millions buying up studios and then maintaining all that overhead of salaries, hard assets, expenses etc., they fund projects from major studios for exclusivity rights. I mean that would totally explain why Bungie got unloaded. It's a great short term strategy as long as Sony doesn't or Nintendo don't participate in it.

The problem with this strategy is that Sony and Nintendo probably will not sit on their butts the next time they catch wind of a new game project, so expect exclusivity right prices to heat up. Also, this really puts a negative spin in the industry as fights for titles are going to get really ugly and we the consumer will likely suffer. As Haze for the PS3 has shown, buying the exclusivity doesn't guarantee quality work. Devs can get lazy with money already in their pocket. I wonder how MS utilizing this strategy is going to maintain quality control.

[deeznuts]

The lineup is:

Infinite Discovery, ID2, ID3 et al

[Lew_Ijgee]

To bad "Made in America Microsoft" isn't manufactured in America.

[clintos59]

Its not going to happen. Square already knows they will waste money doing this because final fantasy games plays a big part in japan and the 360 is nowhere to be even mentioned in japan. If anything I think square will bring Star Ocean as an exclusive title or multiplatform to the 360 aswell, and I have a feeling kingdom hearts 3 will be on the wii. That is prolly the announcements they are going to announce at e3.

[Dannagar]

Back in 2005, Square Enix showed a demo on Xbox 360. Later Square Enix claimed the demo would be an MMO. In addition, at E3 2006, Square Enix stated that their would be 6 versions of Final Fantasy XIII. We know two versions are for Playstation 3 and one would be for cell phones but we don't know what system the other three versions are for. Knowing Square Enix's track record, one of those version will likely come out for DS.

We also know that Final Fantasy XIII is being built on the White Engine, which is a multi-platform engine. So, who knows what they got up their sleeves.

[sonarus]

lol how are they losing money if MSoft is paying for development. FF13 won't push 360 console sales but it will push PS3 console sales. MSoft could easily drop 50mill into Square Enix lap for FFXIII to go multiplatform and maybe some exclusive DLC as well

Its unlikely though because sony owns a stake in square enix and rest assured they will do everything in their power to keep the title exclusive. It will be a huge seller in both the east and the west and Msoft knows it so they will be trying very hard to get it. Plus, didn't microsoft say something about some PS3 exclusive will be jumping on their platform.

Its not like i want it to happen but the crystal tools engine can run on the 360 according to square enix so i wouldn't be surprised if they make it happen

[Dannagar]

Sony's 20% ownership of Square Enix hasn't stopped Square Enix from Supporting Nintendo like a mad dog. If Sony had that much say so, they wouldn't have lost Dragon Quest 10 to the DS.

[Superfragilistic]

"Sony's 20% ownership of Square Enix..."

Sony currently hold, as of the end of last financial year, 8.6% of Square Enix stock, compared to Enix founder and honorary chairman Yasuhiro Fukushima 21.3%, and his private company's additional 8.8%, giving him over 30% of the company. Square founder Masafumi Miyamoto owns approximately 7.1%, whilst the remaining 54%+ majority is controlled largely by American and Japanese financial institutions.

In other words, Sony does not control Square Enix, it does have a substantial voting block but nothing to influence the day to day business operations of Square Enix as a company.

The key reason Square was largely exclusive to Sony last generation was because the PS2 dominated the console market with in excess of 100 million consoles and the merger with Enix had not yet been completed.

This generation is different with all consoles continuing to grow and appearing to split the market. Unlike ourselves, Square Enix is not a gamer but a business, and a business' motive is singularly about one thing... profit. If Square Enix believes that a multiplatform approach to some of it's previously exclusive titles will yield it greater profits then it is likely to do so and you, I and Sony could do little to prevent it.

In the event that Square Enix appears to be moving towards a multiplatform base the only option Sony may have is to make a sizable payment to retain exclusive rights. If the case arises where Square Enix goes multiplatform (I stress the word IF), Sony would be likely to pursue a timed exclusive and if successful would get essentially the same benefit of a full flung exclusive. This would be much like we saw Microsoft do to ensnare exclusive episodic content for GTAIV, and would immediately become public knowledge by virtue of shareholder transparency.

NOTE:

Final Fantasy XI was released as a timed exclusive on PS2 in 2004, with the PC and Xbox360 following over the next two years. Additionally FF1-IV are on the DS (the PSP's direct competitor).

Currently Japan is a tiny console market for the PS3 and essentially irrelevant for the 360. Japan is currently dominated by Nintendo loving, handheld doting gamers that don't spend anywhere near the amount of money on software that the burgeoning American market and expanding European market do.

The departure of designer luminary Hironobu Sakaguchi (along with composer Nobuo Uematsu) to found Mistwalker in 2004 to catch the prevailing winds hinted at this change, and with recent comments from other key Japanese developers (along with those at Square Enix), it suggests that at the very least Japanese developers are increasingly looking overseas to boost software sales and profits.

I am certainly not saying FF will go multiplatform this gen, but I am saying that Square Enix would have seriously considered it.

[juuken]

Sonarus, I highly doubt FFXIII and Versus would be multi-platform.

[solidt12]

If FF XIII was to get released on the 360 it wouldn't just be bad for the PS3 it would be bad for the entire Final Fantasy series, because it has always been a Playstation Series minus the Nintendo spin offs. The Series would lose part of what is so special about it, but I doubt it is going multi-platform.

[Guitarded]

BS walks! That's some serious BS solidt12 and 360 is making serious money for publishers.

[ukilnme]

@ Superfragilistic

Good post and bubble for you.

@ solidt12

I disagree. I think FF would become more special if more players embrace the series. DMC and GTA are proof of that.

[Expy]

It could also mean "The FIRST title for the xbox 360 in a lineup of new titles from Square-Enix."

[Rick Astley]

True but some people will take this article and quickly assume that that it means Square-Enix have a lot more 360 exclusives coming, when they don't. Why? Xbox 360 is dead in Japan.

[gambare]

yep, that's why they want to hit the western market, but they are going multiplat there or giving exclusives to one or another.

[Bnet343]

Did you ever stop and think maybe just maybe Square Enix wants to have a higher presence in North America?

[power of Green]

Square has been wanting to be successful in the western market for some time now as they have stated. They were worried they may not know how to appeal to the west(360 is a western console there's no real success without it).

I know they were worried companies like Capcom would leave them behind.

The Last Remnant does not = "Completely new lineup" as PS3 fanboys are trying to make it out to be.

I bet MSFT jumped all over Square when Square was publicly seeking out help and trying to work out ways to expand their market outside Japan.

[VisibleSchlong]

Wow, utterly delusional.

[thewhoopimen]

As much as I detest agreeing with you, I think you're on the money with this one, though not for the exact same reasons.

[gamesR4fun]

ya no doubt Square wants more $$$ just dunno if they can pull it off on the 360...
the wii on the other hand...

[power of Green]

My #3.5 edit was for #3.4 not #3.1.

[NDN_Shadow]

This could get ugly...

[Spike47]

I agree that the Ps3 has a huge lack of RPG titles but I also think that when you have 3 rpgs on the xbox360 that have released and none of gotten atleast grade B reviews then you shouldn't make a big deal about it.

Its been a long time since I've seen a good rpg anyways.

[myabsolution]

Dude, please quit moaning about RPGs not being on your console and then saying "oh, well the 360s RPGs arent that good anyways..." to justify your console purchase to yourself.

Go buy a 360. Enjoy Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon. LO and BD are fine games, not just "B-grade".... IMO - LO would have scored better if it were named Final Fantasy.

[Mu5afir]

Folks, there have been way too many articles posted where it's a simple mistake of understanding the ENGLISH language. It's amusing to see the desperation involved in taking a simple statement, and twisting it into something that isn't. Remember Kojima and the Ps3 incident..

[Bacon]

Yep, and this is how people get their hopes up for absolutely nothing.

[thekingofMA]

i dont know if you did it on purpose, but you spelled grammar wrong

i know spelling and grammar are two different things, but to spell it wrong when trying to make a point is quite comical

[Bnet343]

LOL grammer? Maybe you should learn some yourself first. ROFL

[Mu5afir]

Hehe, I guess one of you caught on. ;)

[Angelitos]

The main dev. platform is the PS3- stated from Square Enix.

[bootsielon]

Infinite Undiscovery - Timed Exclusive
Last Remnant - Multiplatform

See? More than one game

[meepmoopmeep]

Infinite Undiscovery is probalby a tester game for Square to see if there is a market for their games on the Xbox, which i'm sure there is, for N.A at least.

[mmajunkie123]

im not trying to be a d bag but can you show me some evidence that infinite undiscorvery is a time exclusive

[myabsolution]

Judging from his two bubbles, I'd say he pulled that one out of his ass... ?

[Bnet343]

LMAO!! So funny yet so true.

[bootsielon]

Let us look at the probability of that happening by examining past and logical events: Most japanese games on Xbox 360 are timed exclusive, look what happened with Eternal Sonata and with Tales of Vesperia. Hell, does it even matter? Most of these games have sucked on Xbox 360. It is not about the quantity of games, but quality. You guys are excited, but the sales numbers do not really reflect that. However, your excitement comments only reflect your fanboyism: "I am excited because it is coming to 360, despite the fact that I will not buy it, or that I will be one of the 50,000 (out of 20 million) that will play it". Many of you are excited because Xbox 360 is being supported, not because you really want those games. And then the best counter you can come up with is "it is not official (yet)" or "look at your bubbles, that must mean your wrong!!!111".

So Bubbles matter? Yeah, Kigmal has six bubbles, and? He is a 360 fanboy, just look at his comments, he can not even say something intelligent. Power of green has six bubbles yet he spews so much bull that my bathroom smells like roses after I take one when compared to how his mouth smells after he says all that (or his fingers after he types). Hell, Xi and Darkiewonder are full of it too, they have tons of bubbles and yet their comments are absolute yawners.

I only need one bubble, and despite the fact that I may be biased (not as much as the ones I just mentioned), I speak either truth, or statements that are likely true. NG2 has not been announced for PS3, and? Haze has not been announced for 360, and? The Ninja Gaiden Sigma engine is done, all the assets are also done for 360, so there is nothing stopping Tecmo other than a timed exclusivity agreement. Either that or an arm and a leg from microsoft, since it would have been pointless to develop NG Sigma otherwise.

Same for Haze: It was in development a long time on 360, then suddenly Ubisoft denied it, is that a reason to believe it has always been a PS3 exclusive? Even the demo confirms it by implying that only 4-player co-op is a feature exclusive to PS3, but not the game. It is pure logic, probability and possibility, use your freaking intelligence, or what little is left of it. But again, judging from the fact that you use bubbles to judge comments... yeah, bubbles, heh, the best you can come up with, despite the fact that you have more bubbles than me and most people on the site, and that according to you, you should be making better comments. That speaks volumes of your intelligence.

[etownone]

a FF game was already on 360 and a MGS game was on Xbox.

these so called sony exclusives can be ported to the 360, same way GTA, Devil May Cry and Ae Combat.
i mean, if Sony hasn't paid any money, then i expect to see them on 360.

seriously, why not? without the fanboy logic
if it was a game like motorstorm or rachet, that would be different

[LenHart]

FF13 is impossible to be ported since it uses 50 gig BD and power of CELL

same goes to MGS4 ,FF13 versus , WKS ,wardevil and other PS3 's mega games

expect them on x360? a dead console in europe and Japan and dying fast in US too(will be dead for sure on June 12th)

enjoy playing DVD games on RROD BOX 3 FIX ME while we play MGS4 on JUNE 12th

[mmajunkie123]

lenhart your sad person...nobody cares about your OPINION on the 360
you are not smart and you spend around 80% of your time on here ..huffing and puffing about how ps3 is superior...too bad ps3 hasnt proved it with flops like haze and lair and medicore games like folklore and heavenly sword...what happened to ps3 being superior uncharted was 6 hours long ..heavenly sword was 4 hours , sad so very sad........gears was 8 hours, mass effect is 30 hours, bioshock is 20 hours, dead rising is 10 hours hehe

[Deadman64]

LOL lenhart sounds like a kid called ALEXM. Wait....

[LenHart]

HS averages at 80% on GR

HS is much better than Hour of victory, two worlds, CRAP Dragon/Crap odyssey, N3N, Vampire rain, wartech and GAYlo3 at 640p

HS has sold over 1m copies worldwide. It has 1000 enemies on screen --something impossible on xfix me

LAIR is much better than Two Worlds and Hour Of Victory on XFIX ME

[Ace Ventura]

LOL Square Eniz aren't even developing ONE game for the XBox 360 that is Exclusive. Not one. PS3 is getting their two biggest prodjects they have ever made.... FF13 and FF 13 Versus.

White Knight Chronicles is another guaranteed AAA JRPG coming from Level 5...second best in the biz after square Enix.

Last Remnant= Multiplatform

INfinite Undiscovery = Tri Ace, not Square Enix

Star Ocean 4= probably PS3 Exclusive and if not its still not developed by Square Enix, Either way it will be PS3 Exclusive or multiplatfom.

Square Enix has already stated they will be developing no Exclusive titles for the Xbox 360 while the PS3.... gets the biggest masterpiece and what will surely become the greatest JRPG of all time - Final Fantasy 13 and Versus.

PS3 wins so big.

[mmajunkie123]

ps3 wins big? it has no jrpg out while 360 has 2 right now and 3 coming (tales of vesperia in august) (infinite undiscovery in september and last remnant) if you dont like it too bad xbox 360 has more jrpg and western rpg get use to it you sad little man

[Ace Ventura]

lol^^^

[zethos56]

until ff14 comes out

[DarK-SilV]

Mmajunkie123 I played these 2 <I stopped playing blue dragon at the beginning of disc 2 and I stopped playing lost od at the beginning of disc 3, they are really not that great
Flop

mass effect and bioshock are really great WRPG which you can play on PC IF you want

[n00bPwner]

lol, even sQUEERnix knows 360 is the best platform this gen. ouch.

[meepmoopmeep]

i wish all 360 owners were like you and these companies see this as well so that they stop making games for the xbox because of your ignorance.

even if a company wants to make games for your beloved console you make fun of them? you are a waste of sperm.

[Homicide]

he's a 360 fanboy. Everyone knows bots have sh1t for brains.

[Ace Ventura]

He's barely hit puberty. Trust me. He's a little douche that thinks Gears of War is the best game ever made LOLOL

[FLOPbox 360]

<----------- This is not the best platform. This is a FLOP.... And the least selling console in the world. Period.

: (

[mesh1]

meepmoo
you take your importance and the importance of this site to seriuos didnt you know n4g is a joke to the online gaming community dont flattter your self game devs wont read yyour crap.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

More games the better, bring 'em on!!!!

And no I dont care if they are multiplatform or not as long as I can play them.
And no I dont care if a particular game is not on a system I own. Im sure its good but I am not sitting around pine-ing for any game. If they make it for me to play on the console I have (or enough comes out that I eventually pick up the other console) then cool I will look into buying it. If not, then just like I said when Haze went exclusive and UT3 went timed, "oh well guess I wont buy it now, there are plenty of other games to play on the system I have! It's a great time to be a gamer!".

[heroman711]

i doubt ff13 is going multi plat. sony would do anything as in even pay millions and millions to keep this game a exclusive game plus square has already stated this game is remaining exlusive on ps3 and also, the last update square said that they only have around 13% for ps3 because making this game is incredibly hard so imagine the difficulty on the 360 . im pretty sure they wont let this game slip out of their hands

here is proof it is 13 percent done http://www.videogamesblogge...

[thenickel]

If Metal Gear doesn't sell to hot then you better believe that Square is going multiplatform. This E3 might make quite a few fanboys upset but will more then likely make gamers happy.

[allforcalisto]

and will soon own a ps3.

This debate is old. way to beat a dead horse till its atomized.
last remnant is MULTIPLATFORM. for the love of god stop acting like its a 360 title just to whip up a stupid fanboi argument.
Infinite undiscovery is being developed by TRI ACE, NOT squeenix.

i don't think people realize the enormous difference between what's going on with the FFXIII's and last remnant.
read up on XIII's, whose developing, and how the devs want to augument FF even more than they did with 12. the XIII's will be premier titles on par with mgs4 in terms of scope and depth. Last remnant may be a good game but it just won't be as vast as the XIII's. You can tell just by looking at the trailers.
It isn't generating much hype for a reason.

I'm pretty sure others get what i'm saying. Having had an eye on this dumb war for a while now you can pretty much tell which games will float and which will stink. haze obviously flop. lair OBVIOUS flop. Lost odyssey obviously not going to surpass FF in the way some inane journos were claiming.

[power of Green]

I Don't understand your angry PS3 fanboy troll jibberish announcing that you are a 360 owner lol.

What's Being a publisher that may have a lineup or not(square) have to do with TriAce being the developer of a title?(. lol

Are you saying Square does not have a lineup? and whats in their lineup(as a Publisher)doesn't count because one of their titles is developed by TriAce?. lol

[allforcalisto]

LOL

Dude i'm a squeenix fanboi, not a sony fanboi. A sony fanboi wouldnt acknowledge the fact that that he's meh'd with the ps3's library of games. But then again I feel that way about this gen so far really. I've been waiting an age for alan wake, heavy rain, Mgs4, FFXIII, fable 2, Project offset and its getting tiring now.

power of green ur a doofus, that i've argued with at length in the past.

There is a major difference between publishing a game and developing it. The dev team behind the XIII's are very strong teams that have consistently whipped up AAA's. running around screaming "ooooh we've got last remannat" is just sad, when it's multiplat and shouldn't be brought into the conversation if we're comparing games on different platforms.
Calling this a "squeenix line-up" is just dumb.

[Ohohoho]

You said that Last Remnant isn't generating hype for a reason. I think that the reason you're thinking of is wrong.

The reason it's not generating hype is because it's also not generating NEWS. There's absolutely NO new information on the game, and there hasn't been for a LONG time. That's why there is no hype.

[allforcalisto]

dragonheart....

I think you didnt think about the thing i said about trailers. A trailer can sell a game. No one really knew that much about gears and it sold like cr@ck due to advertising etc. new franchise sold tons.

We know as much about Last remnant as we do about FFXIII and many other games. Its just that not that many people care. To be blunt the game sighs generic every time I see it.
A lot of people don't know much of the information on FFXIIIversus, but as soon as they saw those trailers and remembered kingdom hearts they were sold.

Last remnant: guys sisters gets kidnapped by random soldiers
oooh epic armies...ugh
this gen blows thus far.
I wasn't this misanthropic in 05 but I hadn't played Asssassin's creed and other over-hyped(mass effec) games back then. btw i do like mass effect quite a bit, but its another example of whats wrong with this gen. Games being over-hyped beyond belief.

[power of Green]

"Dude i'm a squeenix fanboi"

I agree this may be causing the Extreme and Confused Negative Reaction in you reasoning. Its just a rumor of a lineup that supposedly has a solid source no one wanted to hear your attacks on their other games and that long winded BS you posted.

Just deal with it there'e a rumor that has a *supposed* solid source saying Sqaure wants to tap into the attach rate of the West. just move on man people didn't come in hear to hear you rag on part of their console's lineup.

[Wildarmsjecht]

Yea power of green is right. It's not like he's ever ragged on...oh..
wait..nvm.

Sorry, pot and kettle and all that jazz.

[miganda]

i like every thing you said, but....thats just not gonna fly on this site. i own a 360 since midnight day one. and i also have my 80 gig ps3. so im not really concerned with the one sided fans point of view either. but this site lives for flame wars. you can tell by how people respond. with little(very little) to no reason for disagreeing. thats probably why im down to 2 bubbles. i speak my mind with out bias. i really like all 3 systems. though i dont own a wii yet. but i see things for what its is. microsoft fans sometimes are to giddy and pomous because the 360 is making strides in the market. but micro still has a long way to go to match what sony and nintendo have accomplished. sony fans seem to be in denial that sony no longer owns the market for themselves, and have never been the one to have to climb back up from the bottom. but things are looking up for sony. and nintendo fans arent handling sucess very well, sheesh act like youve been their before.and its great that nintendo is making things happen again but please stop with the leading the system race. i feel more like nintendo isnt battling the other two but more like they created their own race. and that was a smart move. in the end we should take the best that they all have to offer and not what they dont. excuse the misspelling

[NinjaRyu]

I think you are gonna need some more 360 fans to help you right now. Just by the number of totol Fanboys in the room you're outnumber like 1 to 20. Then again this is a sony fansite, it not like it a gaming news site that covers more then one console! (sarcastic Remark ended) Coming back on topic if SE has more 360 titles planned for the 360 I hope they say something soon! At the very least the stop articles like this from poping up on this site.

[NegativeCreepWA]

Square Enix announced a few years ago that its next mmo would come out on 360. That could of changed by now, but I haven't seen anything saying otherwise.

[Bladestar]

I think Metal Gear is Sony's last chance to prove to developers that it's worth keeping games exclusive on the PS3... unless ofcourse Sony pays them more money than they otherwise make.... if Metal Gears does not sell more copies then less say... Gears 1, Halo or even games that gone multiplatform like GTA, DMC... then what will? Metal Gears is the most anticipated game on the PS3 ... for the mast 2-3 years... I think developers like square are waiting to see what happends and will decide what to do... I think that includes Konami.... why else would they release the game in June... and not during the holidays when they can maximize sells... coincidental to E3 in July...
square already made the necesary changes to support the xbox 360.. including the white engine...

[devilhunterx]

by any chance did you buy America's Army or Bomberman Zero? I am just wondering, since they are XB2 "great" exclusives

[kindi_boy]

“the first in a completely new lineup of Square Enix titles for Xbox 360, this fantasy RPG (role-playing game) is a collaborative project with fan favorite development studio tri-Ace Inc.”

hmm... SquareEnix wont be the one developing i guess. they will publish onry!.

and regarding FFXIII and Verses, if i recall that the "White something" Engine is being developed for PS3 and FFXIII will be developed through it. i don't see how Xbox360 is going to get a FFXIII.

Looked through Wiki and got this

"The Crystal Tools engine, originally named White Engine, is a seventh generation game engine built to be used with "all of the Square Enix's forthcoming next-generation games" on the PlayStation 3, as commented by Final Fantasy Versus XIII character designer Tetsuya Nomura.[1] The first games to utilize it will be Final Fantasy XIII, its spinoff title Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and Square Enix's next-gen MMORPG currently codenamed Rapture. Nomura commented that the switch from the PlayStation 2 to the PlayStation 3 was difficult, saying that "the hurdles are greater than they were in the move from the PS1 to the PS2." This in turn gave way to the creation of the White Engine,[1] which was later renamed Crystal Tools.[2]

One of the main aspects of the engine is that it allows cinema quality CGI to be rendered in real-time. Nomura has commented that the engine will be able "to recreate battle scenes reminiscent of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children."[3] It also handles advanced audio processing, cinematic cut-scene transition, physics effects calculations and special effects rendering.[citation needed] The engine reportedly uses 4 of the 6 synergistic processing elements (SPEs) that are available to games running on the Cell processor, to achieve near-pre-rendered CGI quality in realtime."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

They called it crystal tools now...

I don't see how will they make it happen on the 360 if ever but time will tell.

[slowlearner]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

[kindi_boy]

Thank you for your update.
this will give 360 better odds indeed.

still there is something bothering me

this line "The engine reportedly uses 4 of the 6 synergistic processing elements (SPEs) that are available to games running on the Cell processor, to achieve near-pre-rendered CGI quality in realtime."

apparently they are developing with the CELL in mind...
i really don't know. again time will tell.

thank you again for your update

[jackdoe]

Crystal Tools isn't just a game engine per se. It is a set of tools to make every aspect of a game. Cinemas, gameplay, menus, etc. Making Crystal Tools multiplatform does not signify FFXIII or Versus going multiplatform; those two titles were locked as PS3 exclusives long ago by Sony. However, Crystal Tools may be used to develop 360 games in the future.

[Spike47]

person that said that I had to justify my console purchase just to let you know I bought a Ps3 for the following reasons:

1. MGS4, GOW3, and FF series.
2. No RROD
3. Free online

Now with more games being announced i have no need to justify my purchase.

[Aclay]

SquareEnix doesn't need to waste their time with the Xbox 360.

SquareEnix's games will only sell well on a Sony console or Nintendo Console.

And even if SquareEnix does decide to develop for the 360 again ( I highly doubt it) they wont be making there blockbuster games like Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts on it.

Plus, SquareEnix's big games like FFXIII and Kingdom Hearts 3 will be too big for the 360's little DVD-9 disc to handle and FFXIII is a PS3 exclusive anyways, so it's not ever coming to the 360. Killzone 2's producer Steven Ter Hiede said, "Blu-ray isn't a luxury, it's a necessity" when it comes to developing games and that's so true.

Just give 360 gamers some more shooters, that's all the 360 is anyways, a shooter console.

[zethos56]

the 360 is quickly becoming more than a shooter console. this year we're getting an action game, some nice rpgs, a platformer, and whatever the hell Too Human is.

[Ohohoho]

Early on in this gen, SE had stated that there main exclusives and focus are in the Wii and PS3.

They DID say that they want to start making more western friendly games also, but in no way would they make the worst possible business decisions and make their best franchises playable on the 360. Why would they want to bleed money that way?

[princejb134]

why not just make every game from square enix multiplatform
then everyone will be happy and square will make enough money to make even more multiplatform games

[wass007]

y cant u bots just stick wiv mistwalker studios lmao hahahahaha the square enix wanabes lmao!!!

[DevastationEve]

funny, I thought sakaguchi was FROM squaresoft? what, now that he's got his own company you turn your back on him like he never existed.

so...what if Kojima made HIS own company? would you turn your back on him? wait...Kojima Productions.

this is how sony fans support their people: ditch them when they go out try make a name for themselves, instead of riding off of the success of a company that may or may not take their ideas into consideration.

[CertifiedGamer]

Last remnant is multiplatform and after that xbox has nothing else
PS3 and FF go together and square will not bring ff to a dead console that has been 3 years in the market and aint making anything in japan Sony on the other will get all there games and wii will get the kiddy games but in the end sony get 70% of the cake while nintendo get 29.9 and microsoft will get .1 remember that last remnant aint exclusive and rpgs sell better in japan plus the other game is only published by square enix but developed by tri-ace

[jackdoe]

Some of you are reading too deeply into this. Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, and the new version of FFXI. Sounds like a line up to me. FFXIII and FFXIII Versus coming out on the 360 is a ridiculous notion; Sony locked them up as exclusives long ago.

[7h3ultim8p00]

It's happening...sloooooooowly. Hate and denial won't stop it. You know what I'm talking about PS3 fanboys.

[alster23]

what? developers realizing the ps3's full potential? yeah thats good :)

[7h3ultim8p00]

Sure alster. Go ahead and play dumb. But you know what I'm talking about. You wouldn't even have made such a witty comment if you didn't lol!

[Bombomb]

bash, hate, and downplay anything 360.

when you see comments lik "SquareEnix doesn't need to waste their time with the Xbox 360. "

then you know 1 side feels threatened, fanboys stink.

what else is new..on the site PS3 fanboys run amuck.

skurred..

[pwnmaster3000]

funny 360 fans do the same thing to go to the haze reviews.

man i hat it wen 360 fans complain about ps3 fans going to the 360 article and bash wen they do it to

[PS360PCROCKS]

Uh of course their bashing Haze you idiot. You spent forever posting articles about how it was going to blow "gaylo" out of the water. Gimme a break. Sony fans start it by calling everything xbox crap and hype everything they have as the second coming of christ. So when it sucks they jump on it and try to exact some revenge. I own all 3 consoles so I could care less, but it's completely obvious who starts 99% of everything.

[kindi_boy]

Am not really a PS3 fan am a game fan

but i prefer Sony > anything for 2 reasons
1st they didn't make me buy their console 3 times [RROD] (Xbox360)
2nd they didn't leave the fans who brought them to where they are since they started with their first console. (Nintendo)

that's about it.
and i don't mind if they developed FFXIII for a cola can for all i care, as long as they going to make it on the PS3 so i can enjoy it with a peace of mind.

[segasage]

with IGN..kid

[sumfood4u]

I'ma Big Final Fantasy Fan, if not the biggest, I'm Happy Square/Enix is Making Games Period! They can make games for the Wii & 360 til the Cows come home. Just Bring Out Final Fantasy XIII & Versus! 2 my PS3 & I'll be Soooooooooo Very Happyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

[Covenant]

Sweet.

The more quality RPGs, the better.

[Neo604]

they wont be able to handle AAA title wich require a powerful system.

[DevastationEve]

PS3 is awesome! now give me my endorsement money so I can live a Fony life too!

[PS360PCROCKS]

Man some of you are such idiots "360 is dead in Japan" what's the point? Sony and Nintendo owns Japan. Microsoft is owning America. Remember the quotes about western devs and all that crap from SE. Ok so try and get this logic. Their trying to EXPAND their audience by expanding their platforms. They want to make more money and they know that they can sell lots by putting games on the 360 in America.

[alster23]

M$ is owning the US currently but the ps3 is slowly gaining a hold on it.

[KatanaSteel]

I'm sorry, but in regard to Sonarus's comment (1.1), wouldn't an Xbox 360 implode if it tried to run FFXIII/Versus? With that in mind, it certainly won't become multi-platform, and it will be a very cold day in hell when it does.

[Unreal_Liquid_Jonte]

Fallout 3 is going 2 rule them all :P

[kindi_boy]

Can't wait!

[DevastationEve]

I have a lot of good games on my 360, but more than anything I want to see what Squeenix has to offer. I see this as their answer to the proven consumer interest in the Xbox 360. PS3 fans shouldn't be jealous...I mean they are FOAMING angry whenever they hear something like this. Listen guys, you have Sony on your side! What more could you want?! Let us 360 gamers have our party too!

[Pika-pie]

FFXIII & Vs are PS3 exclusives. Thats all that matters.

[juuken]

Wishful thinking for the 360brats.I'm sorry, but FFXIII and Versus are PS3 exclusives.

That is all.

[HateBoy]

Infinite Undiscovery... Now that is a horrible name for a video-game!

[Citizen Cook]

Its only a matter of time before Square open their eyes and see the $$$ for developing EVERYTHING for the Xbox 360...

Even if every person who owns a PS3rd buys FF, they won't even break even!

They NEED M$ like you Phoney fatboys need a good shafting by a plumber named Mario...

HA HA HA HA!

[hazardman]

i really don't care what square enix does on the x360...i stopped playing FF a long time ago...on the other hand I still think that MGS4 will make its way to the x360 by early next year. $$$ does the talking not you Sony sissies....

[hazardman]

I think people need to stop with all the fanboy crap...if you're a gamer you should own at least 2 of 3 consoles. I have PS3 and Xbox360 plus a PC...and game on all 3...x360 is at the top of the list..followed close by my Ps3..XBOX live rules online gaming...PSN needs a lot of work..lets hope that HOME fixes that..but hey not to much complaining..you get what you pay for..

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Why would any developer want to downgrade from ps3 to xbox 360?
Answer that...
Xbox 360 is like the wii to developers! Just throw any game on it without working too hard on it, make easy money & then use the money to make a ps3 game. Its simple really, when Xbutts find out the devs are making a ps3 exclusive they will cry about their watered down game. But, not to worry! Just throw some overpriced DLC on their generic game and you will have a happy Xbutt!

Look at epic, they made a simple gears of war game then they ran to ps3 to put what they thought was their masterpiece & their first love by makng unreal tournament 3.
Look at bunjie, all those years and the end result was instant replay. Soon after they bought out of their contract and are secretly working on some ps3 project.
Look at the people who made the new Naruto game, no limitations.
Listen to the heads of rockstar, If it wasnt for xbox 360 this game could have been larger. Thanks Microsoft! PS2 san andreas was larger in scope.
XBOX 360 is last gen, How can you guys dismiss the nintendo wii when Xbox 360 is in the same category. A last generation console with a few tweaks for graphics & online capabilities. its no ps3 thats for sure. But, Just like the nintendo wii people bought the xbox 360 for the few good games it has. But those games fall short in comparison to what Sony is producing.
PS3 is very superior, but you already know that because you all got some money saved up for it stupid. Get real!

[codeazrael]

http://ps3.qj.net/Rumor-Met...

Just remember, money always trumps loyalty, no matter how much we deny it.

[eddierivera]

As much as I love Final Fantasy , I would rather play it on the ps3. Also, I dont think that SquareEnix could fit a huge game like FFXIII on a 9 gig disc. All the next gen FF's will have to be on Blueray cause thats the only thing they could fit on. Thats why microsoft couldnt get Metal Gear. There is just not enough room.

[Dragonfood]

I think that Square-Enix should keep the Final Fantasy series exclusive to the PS3, minus any MMO's they make. What they can do in my opinion on the 360 is create an entirely new IP series . So Sony gets Final Fantasy, Microsoft gets a new series, possibly ID, and label it 1,2,3 ect.. and Nintendo get Wiiware games. PSP and DS have to have some more Square love also.

Every console maker deserves to have Sqaure-Enix games on their respective console. Let's leave the fanboy crap at the door and enjoy some awesome RPG's.

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

to go against my fellow sonylovers but final fantasy and JRPGs in general are for the major lose in my opinion. They are all the same, the stories are the same, the characters are the same etc etc. in short they all just plain suck!!!

anyone else agree or am I about to lose whats left of my bubblezzz? lol

[3rik]

I dont know how good of an idea this is for SE though. They are pretty big in japan, so why put games on a system that doesnt seel in Japan? Possibly to get more western gamers to buy their stuff. I think this is also a big thing for microsoft to boost sales in Japan. A couple square enix exclusives would drive sales of 360 pretty good in japan. Well, thats just what I think anyway

[SkyGamer]

For the comment being on Inf. Und. being a timed exclusive, you my friend are on some serious drugs. It is being co-funded and co-published by MGS. Dream on dude.

[Alpha_Gamer]

Leave the boring, turn-based rpg`s to the ps3 where they belong.

[JokerSGS]

People need to make money it's hard times now a days. And although Sony has said they won't pay for exclusives they would never let titles like Final Fantasy and MGS go. Every title they have let go except for GTA has gone down hill by a lot or slightly in quality.