AMD is just saying this hoping for more CPU sales
Hardcore AMD fans will tell you that Intel are either, just behind, just better or not that much better are not being entirely true to themselves.
Intel has dominated the CPU market since Core 2 Duo was released and since then their has been no comparison.
AMD are competing on price but that's about it.
If you get a FX - 8150 or FX - 8350 then expect to compete with i5 2500K, 3570...
Interesting
AMD Radeon HD 8970
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1000MHz Core Speed
2304 Unified Shaders
144 Texture Mapping Units = 144GTexel/s
48 Render Output Units = 48GPixel/s
312GB/s Bandwidth (6500MHz x 384bit interface / 8 = 312GB/s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 780
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902MHz Core Speed
2304 Unified Shaders
192 Texture Mapping Units = 173.1GTexel/s
48 Render Output Unit...
Nope you're wrong, HD 8000 will be a new series just like HD 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000 and 7000
Just like every Series there will be OEM variants.
I get Consoles as well for exclusives if its justifiable to get 1 platfrom for a hand full of games.
I've got a PC because I can play all 3rd party games better than the console counter parts plus PC exclusives
Another thing, no backwards compatibility, I can play MS-DOS games on...
Yeah shouldn't be a surprise there is a hole bunch of PC GPUs that can out perform the PS4 and XBO
AMD Radeon
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HD 6970
HD 6990
HD 7870 GHz Edition
HD 7870 XT
HD 7950
HD 7970
HD 7970 GHz Edition
HD 7990 (3rd party dual HD 7970)
HD 7990 (AMD official HD 7990)
HD 8870 (OEM)
HD 8950 (OEM)
HD 8970 (OEM)
HD 7970M
HD 8970M
Nvidia GeFo...
For anyone that thinks that Steam is average or not good, I'm incredibly sorry to tell you but you need to be educated and I'm here to do it.
Steam offers so much that no current generation console or next generation console can offer and here is the list:
Steam Greenlight - Supports indie devs, allows gamers to support games
Steam Workshop - Access to thousands of mods for games
Steam Recommendations - See what actual gamers think and friend t...
Online Passes
DLC
Micro-transactions
Locking the game to one account
These are all measure I support, on Steam I can buy all the games I want put them on a USB 3.0 HDD and take it to a friends house, then sign into my account and play them no problems.
As for 1 time installs, that is a joke.
They are extreme examples but he said a generation ahead of High-end PCs did he not?!!
The fact is if money was no object PC is about 10 times the performance of PS4 with the most extreme set-up.
That extreme set up (Ultra PC) would be around $10,000 , around 2Kw and about twice the width of a standard PC tower and almost as tall as a desk.
The "Best PC" would be around $3,000 around 700w and would fit in a standard ATX case.
This guy is on drugs!!!
The CPU in the PS4 is a laptop processor doubled up and the GPU is claimed by AMD as "Mainstream" not high-end or Enthusiast.
So here we go!!!
PlayStation 4 Spec
CPU = AMD APU Jaguar 8 Cores @ 1.6 or 2GHz
GPU = AMD Radeon HD @ 1.84 TFLOP/s
RAM = 8GB of GDDR5 with a Bandwidth of 176GB/s
Xbox One Spec
CPU = AMD APU Jaguar 8 Cores @ 1.6GHz
GPU = AMD Radeon...
The PS4 GPU is only around 1.84TFLOP/s so if you do the Calculation of clock speed, unified shaders and cycles you'll get the TFLOP/s
800 MHz x 1156 Cores x 2 Cycles = 1,849,600MFLOP/s or 1,849GFLOP/s or 1.84TFLOP/s
The PS4 at best will compete with a HD 7870 GHz Edition and is no where near the RAW capabilities of a HD 7950 or 7970
HD 7950 = 925 MHz x 1792 Cores x 2 Cycles = 3.31TFLOP/s
HD 7970 = 1050 MHz x 2048 Cores x 2 Cycles ...
There is 27 GPUs out or will be out before the PS4 and NXB will be released. These 27 GPUs are more powerful than the GPUs in the new consoles. Not to mention HD 8000 and GeForce 700 series will be out by then.
These GPUs below can play beyond 1080p above 60fps, even 3840 by 2160 at 30fps. More than what can be said of PS4 (PS4 BF4 720p at 60fps)
AMD Radeon
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HD 7950
HD 7970
HD 7970 GHz Edition CFX
HD 7990 (3rd...
GPUs more powerful than that in the PS4
AMD Radeon
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HD 6970
HD 6990
HD 7870 GHz Edition
HD 7870 XT
HD 7950
HD 7970
HD 7970 GHz Edition
HD 7990 (3rd party dual HD 7970)
HD Malta
HD 7970M
HD 8870 (OEM)
HD 8950 (OEM)
HD 8970 (OEM)
Nvidia GeForce
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GTX 480
GTX 570
GTX 580
GTX 590
GTX...
I agree with born2expire
"Look at it this way, AMD needed the consoles, Nvidia did not. AMD was on shakey ground and experts where giving them a 50/50 chance if they survive 2013, where as Nvidia was in fine shape."
Truth is Intel is destroying AMD on the CPU side with only 1 in 4 CPUs being sold are AMD, on top of that AMD chips cost more to make since they have large die size meaning more materials, worst part is they sell them more competitively ...
Refer to my previous comments
http://n4g.com/news/1187625...
http://n4g.com/news/1180153...
Well I was not gonna comment but there is just so much crap its insane.
AMD manufacture CPUs, they acquired ATi and subsequently re-branded them AMD. realising that on CPU power and performance they have been falling behind Intel since Core 2 series they went for the better bang for buck option.
AMD having ATi on side accelerated their APU project. AMD then announced the Fusion project in 2006 which is all about APUs Accelerated Processing Units.
An A...
Yeah but the difference is Cliffy
EA pull servers
Have crappy limited Beta
Charge $60 for everything
Charge heavily for DLC
Remove services what you could of put money in
Crappy micro-transactions (for stuff unobtainable any other way)
Valve still have servers for games over a decade old
Have extensive on going beta for games already out (patch betas)
Price their games fairly
Usually release DLC ...
“supercharged PC architecture” and an “enhanced PC GPU,” all I could think to myself was how people who don’t understand PC tech will be dazzled by these big words.
My thoughts exactly
PS4 CPU is barely an upgrade from a mainstream CPU
PS4 GPU is just tittering in the bottom end of highend
Best part in 8GB GDDR5
This article is full of....
Seriously does this guy even know anything about PCs you can't get GDDR5 for motherboards, it doesn't exist.
Sure the PS4 is good but to compare it to a High End PC from 2011 would be idiotic nevermind the latest and greatest PC hardware.
PS4 Spec
CPU = AMD APU Jaguar 8 Cores @ 1.6GHz
GPU = AMD Radeon HD 1.84 TFLOP/s
RAM = 8GB of GDDR5 with a Bandwidth of 176GB/s
Best PC avai...
My comment is #40 2nd Page
http://n4g.com/news/1178049...
Although it is correct devs can get more out of a closed environment we're not gonna see 4K gaming on PS4 or Xbox Loop
4K is only for the Likes of HD 7990, GTX 690, GTX Titan and beyond so basically $1000 GPUs at the moment.
PS4 looks like it will have a Southern I...
AMD APU Jaguar 8 cores (1.6GHz is what we've been hearing)
The GPU element according of AMD Jaguar is Southern Island and around 2TFLOP/s we're looking at Radeon HD 7850
So to draw comparison
Wii U
IBM Espresso Tri-Core 1.2GHz
AMD Latte GPU 320 Unified Shaders/ 16 TMUs/ 8 ROPs
2GB DDR3 RAM (1GB reserved for system (Bandwidth 12.8GB/s)
PS4
AMD Octo-Core 1.6GHz (rumoured)
AMD Radeon HD 102...
Truth is AMD CPUs are weak, very weak Core i3 and i5s would easily destroy Jaguar.
Hell AMD flagship CPU FX-8350 (Piledriver) at 5GHz only competes with Core i5s.
Everyone knows the ultimate set-up at the moment is Intel and Nvidia combo. Intel Core i7 4770K and Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan
Try arguing it, I send you a 100 links proving me right!