How The PlayStation Move Is NOT A Wii Remote

Kotaku writes: I just played SOCOM 4 with the newly-named PlayStation Move controller. And now I know how the PlayStation 3's motion-sensitive controller is not just a me-too Wii controller.

Fewer buttons: The Move controller is actually even more streamlined than the Wii Remote. Nintendo's Remote still offers/confuses a new player with a d-pad, plus, A, minus, 1 and 2 buttons as well as a home button and B trigger. The Move has its own home button and underbelly trigger, but just five other points of button input. That makes the controller actually feel a little naked and therefore likely even less daunting to a new player - unless they need their controllers to look like TV remotes.

[Cajun Chicken]

Little bit of hope there then.

[TOO PAWNED]

if it comes from kotaku, then...

[callahan09]

"A smarter controller: I played SOCOM 4, a third person-shooter, with the Move pointed at the TV like a gun and the sub-controller in my left hand to command character movement. Wii games that were controlled with Remote and Nunchuk could be befuddled if the player pointed the Remote away from the screen. If you were playing a shooter and aimed just off the screen, the game's camera might start spinning or the game would pause and ask for the player to point at the TV again. The combination of camera sensors — the Sony Eyetoy on top of the TV detects the presence of the Move — and a gyroscope prevented SOCOM 4 from getting confused. When I moved my controller to point off of the TV, the gyroscopic sensors kept track of my movement. The same thing happened when a SOCOM developer blocked the Eyetoy camera. The precision of the controller diminishes in these situation. but the PS3 doesn't lose track of the device."

Awesome!!!

"No wire!: The Wii Remote and Nunchuk are tethered by a short cable. The PS3 Move and its subcontroller are not."

Also great. I hate that damned nunchuck wire, when you're doing fast motions you slap yourself in the face with that wire sometimes, or it just feels like it's in the way. Glad that this whole device and subcontroller will be wireless. Also, awesome that it's all rechargeable out of the box.

[-Alpha]

One thing I'm somewhat concerned about is the nakedness they mentioned. Less buttons? Anyone know what exactly it has? What's it missing from the Dualshock?

I am assuming one trigger, X, O, S, and Triangle plus that weird sensor for the Wand?

And on the subcontroller another X, O, analog, D-pad, and another trigger?

How are they going to make up for lack of L2, R2, L3, and R3? I suppose that's done through motion too? Does anyone know if the sub controller has motion too? Because that's the only way I can imagine the shoulder buttons being integrated. Imagine R2 for throwing nades in K2. Instead of using the Wand (which is used for movement) would we use the subcontroller? But then how do we crouch?? Argh, so many questions.

Regardless, good to see the controller has the Sony quality standard. I'm very excited and trying to find that Socom footage if it exists.

[ProA007]

so we need to convince people it's not a Wii Remote now? lol

[SeanRL]

Where can I find the socom 4 footage.

[alster23]

its up on gametrailers

[Sevir04]

"PLAYSTATION®MOVE MOTION CONTROLLER

The corner stone of PlayStation Move, PlayStation Move motion controller combines advanced motion sensors, a dynamic color changing sphere, vibration feedback, and an easy to use button interface. Equipped with three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer and terrestrial magnetic field sensor, PlayStation Move motion controller tracks the precise movements and the angle of the controller. The PS3 system also detects the absolute position of the controller in 3D space by using PlayStation Eye camera. Highly sensitive movement tracking can be accurately traced back to the game, allowing intuitive gameplay as if the player is within the game.

KEY FEATURES:

o Works with PlayStation Eye camera to accurately track player positiono Includes action buttons of DUALSHOCK®3 and SIXAXIS® wireless controller for direct input

o Sleek and Wirelesso Built-in rechargeable Li-ion batteryo Advanced motion sensors in the controller precisely track both fast and subtle movementso Color of the sphere’s light provides visual feedback during gameplayo Vibration feedback is felt during specific actionso Bluetooth® technology supports wireless gaming

o Simultaneously use up to four motion controllers with a PS3 systemo Charge the controller and automatically pair it with the PS3 system via a USB cable (Type A – Mini-B)"

"PLAYSTATION®MOVE SUB-CONTROLLER

PlayStation Move sub controller is a supplementary controller, developed to further expand the experience that PlayStation Move games can offer. It can be used in most PlayStation Move games that require navigating an in-game character as it replicates the control features of the left side of DUALSHOCK 3 and SIXAXIS wireless controller into one’s PlayStation Move experience. PlayStation Move sub controller adds an analog stick, directional buttons and two face buttons into the PlayStation Move’s control scheme. In addition, the sub-controller contains the L1 button, L2 button and L3 button for actions and commands common in advanced gaming.

KEY FEAURES:

o Wireless control completely untethered from PlayStation Move motion controller

o Intuitive navigation of in-game characters

o Easy and intuitive XMB™ menu navigation

o Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery

o Charge the controller and automatically pair it with the PS3 system via a USB cable (Type A – Mini-B)

o Sleek curved body design that easily pairs with the motion controller

Note: DUALSHOCK 3 and SIXAXIS wireless controller can be used in place of the sub controller for all games that are compatible with the sub controller"

http://www.psnathome.com/ge...

It has everything the DS3/6AXIS controller has, just spread across the 2 controllers

[-Alpha]

That's PERFECT, thank you!

[gta2800]

I got exited for this when I realized just how much more awesome the Move will make MLB the Show. I would buy this just to Play MLB with it.

Edit: This may also be the perfect thing to get my girl into gaming. She loved the High Velocity Bowling using the sixaxis controls so I think she might have more fun with this :)

[theEnemy]

.

[shadow2797]

"The PS3's version of the Nunchuk, does not have a motion sensor, according to a developer I was speaking to. There's a chance that is not final, but that is the case with the controllers at Sony's showcase event today. But that's why two-handed boxing-style games were shown with two Moves."

This worries me. It sounds like you have the choice of either one hand tracking with analogue stick, or two hand tracking on rails. So if you're looking for a Zelda-like game where you can run forward, pull out your bow and arrow, and shoot something: It's not happening.

The sub controller should have a ball and gyros, IMO. In fact, I'd like it if they both had analogue sticks, but I'll take the one over nothing. The second ball might cause problems, but at the very least it should have gyros like the Nunchuck. I'd prefer it with both though.

To the uninformed above, The Move has PS, X, O, /\, [ ], Middle Button, and T (Trigger). The Sub-controller has Stick, X, O, L1 and L2, D-Pad, and another PS Button. *And L3 thanks to above*

I assume the D-Pad can be used to substitute for other buttons, similar to the PSP.

So, if using the Move - Sub controller (They should call it the "ment" or "mint", Move-mint =D) combination, there's a total of 15 available buttons (not including PS). There's 16 on a regular DualShock (including Select and Start). You're really not losing many buttons.

I'm still not sure how they'll communicate which O or X to use though. Are we going to have LX and LO, and RX and RO? I hope they send separate signals. Two X's and Two O's that do the exact same thing would be pointless.

Edit: Just read the press release above.

If it's compatible with the left side of a DualShock, that tells me that LX and LO send the same signal as RX and RO, because there are no face buttons on the left side of a DualShock. The only exception I can think of is if Start and Select are counted as face buttons on the left side. So there might be hope that they send different signals yet, but it doesn't look good.

And if THAT's true, then using a DualShock instead of the sub controller is going to be a huge pain. Most likely, X and O are the same no matter what controller you use. Which kind of sucks.

And I just realized, that means the sub-controller will never have motion or gyros because you can't do that with a DualShock. So basically, Sony isn't forcing you to buy the add-on, but in the process, they're crippling the Move system. I honestly don't think anyone is going to use a DualShock. It's simply too uncomfortable. Just make the "Mint" the best it can be, please.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Good, informative article.

[Bigpappy]

It is the Wii for the PS3. The games will have to differentiate it from the wii in a major way.

[ReservoirDog316]

I really like the sound of that. I got the metriod prime trilogy for the wii and it really is annoying when you accidentally point away from the screen and it tells you to point at the screen again of it starts spinning. But if that's not a problem with the "Move" then I just might be interested.

Especially if LittleBigPlanet supports it like that video we saw awhile back (I love LittleBigPlanet till this day).

[mikeslemonade]

Thanks for the beta test sheep. This is the definitive motion controller. I'm buying it day one for sure. SOCOM is like my favorite Sony franchise.

[avengers1978]

Far superior motion capture, and the wireless nunchuck. Plus what already appears to be much better games for both casual and hardcore gamers. Socom played amazing with the Move, and both sports champoins games looked good. I really liked the barbarian fighting, and even that street fighting game looked like it might be good.

[King_of _the_Casuals]

Sorry, but I'm disappointed. This thing seems too similar to my Wii....just a super upgraded.
Then to add to it, I'ma have to buy additional controllers if I wanna play with other people?! I mean, buying 4 wands to experience a true fighting experience versus someone else??

Sorry, I think this makes my decision to go with Natal easier. It's way different then the Wii, and it won't require additional purchases to play with others.

[iforgotmylogin]

awwe man above:D
thank you for saying that i agree.
site filled with hypocrites that claimed it to be garbage
everything they said the wii couldnt do they praise this.

let me get this straight
let nintendo brave the controversey and the tsunami
get nintendo moses and clear the path and then sony runs across the parted seas.

blatant rip off of wii idc if it has 4 extra features.
the nunchuck teather made the wii feel good. this is gonna be like 2 remotes. and its gonna break sony tvs i hope they have a warranty.

i hate microsoft but at least they did something... different...
lol pitty that this is a fail idea. if the controllers dont cost 30 or less. then the games.

shame on you sony i usually reserve that line for microsoft but today you stole the cake.

[N4g_null]

What is funny is this shows kotaku is just a pr mercenary for those willing to pay for it in the form of a blog. Why do I say this? Well you can turn off that problem on the wii. It was in the conduit and mostly every game afterwards. If you play red steel2 you will see what I'm talking about you can swing your sword while not pointing at the screen yet you can just point at the screen to shot gone is the spin of death thanks to the extra gyro.

Metriod prime does not use motion plus yet other m does. You will see the difference. Most people won't simply because they just plain refuse to play games on the wii. That's fine and I hope you guys enjoy your controller.

This is why dynamic slash is going to be so much fun. Any motion game not using motion plus will be inferior so it's great to that Sony did this. I'm wondering if nintendo will make wiimotes that have motion plus built in now with option wireless yet that may kill the batteries.

The only disappoint thing here is lack of new features and the no gyro in the nun chuck is really lame. Along with that ball. This just feels like the 7800 from atari all over again it only did every thing also.

[FragGen]

Bring on the casual shovelware!

[solidt12]

SOCOM 4 online with Move is going to be my game!!!!!!!!

http://www.gametrailers.com...

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[tizack]

with dual move's i think the idea would be that, the motion part would take the place of the joystick. so using both wands you would have all your buttons to do tasks while movement and the direction are controlled by motion on the left and right move controllers. for instance the left motioning would control movement, and the right motion would control turning left right and up down. kind of like how the two analog sticks are used now... just a thought. I think it would work great personally. Can't be done on the wii because the nunchuck doesnt have enough accuracy like the regular motionplus wiimote.

[EvilBlackCat]

LOL!!!

Nice joke... dO_Ob

from kotaku?

LOL!!! Nice Joke... d^_^b

"How The PlayStation Move Is NOT A Wii Remote"

well then somebody have the right to post

"How The Xbox 360 NATAL Move Is NOT AN EYE TOY Camera"

Fnck N4G is the best place to find Soap drama on internet!

N4G is da sh1t! PS3 loyalists are the best melodramatic "gamers".

Why i dont go like this against Xbox 360 fans?

Because they are not loyalist melodramatic fools.

This guys are full of sh1t! Hey mod! ban me!

[tunaks1]

"And, hey, the Sony person showing me SOCOM didn't even make me wear the controller's wrist strap. A Nintendo person would never let me get away with that."
ok...
This article is quite I dunno, pointless

[Greywulf]

Its Kotaku, they can't do a Sony article without taking jabs.

[maniacmayhem]

What jabs did they take at Sony?

[poindat]

Really. I read Kotaku regularly, and its a decent blog. I remember as early as late 2008 you COULD say that they were heavily 360 biased, but that really isn't the case anymore. The articles are more intelligent and the authors are more professional than much of these so called "gaming journalists." And its a blog for christ's sake. Hell, the commenters on there are more intelligent then 80% of N4G commenters. I don't understand why people yell "bias" when there is clearly none present. Like what you're doing Greywulf; they never made any unnecessary "jabs" at Sony. You are fooling yourself.

Now Destructoid... THERE you have a reason to be calling someone "biased."

[Eamon]

It basically is a Wii remote but a lot more precise and requires no motion sensing bar.

But at least this time, party games will be more fun due to more accuracy. It was a pain playing Wii Sports with friends because of how inaccurate the motion sensing was.

As for shooters, I think they should keep the controller. Motion + shooting is never a good combination.

The street boxing was pretty accurate. But you'll need two Move controllers for one game though. Will Sony provide 2 Move controllers with each console or will you need to purchase another Move controller for a single game.
To prevent something like this, they should make the nunchuck/side controller motion sensitive too. It will annoy people if they are made to buy another Move controller to play a single player game.

[Sonyslave3]

after reading this article, it is apparent that the ps move is exactly like a wiimote and the sonyfanboys are already on damages control.

[TOO PAWNED]

sonyslave4,5,6,7,8, coming soon, until then stay here in open zone where few just throw their eyes at this section for banned retards, just for comedy sake

[LordMarius]

360fanboys are already on damages control.

/fixed and GTFO

[So Easy I Can Do It]

using the name SonySlave#; by using that name, you are actually a MicrosoftSlave.

[Sony Always Wins]

haha... xbots pu55ys are wetting up as they get hard on the amazing PS Move cause natal sux

[Vincent VII]

natal killer confirmed.

[NYC_Gamer]

natal=eyetoy clone with some emo kid named milo

[avengers1978]

It is very much like the wii mote and even nunchuck, though that is wireless witch is cool. The difference I noticed is in the motion capture and overall look of the games. The wii is has terrible controls even with the wii motion plus. I don't see a need for damage control, besides the name, the presentation was great and it worked well with socom 4 and LBP.
Anyone who says the name sucks, I agree with you
Anyone who thinks it didn't look cool, I disagree

[Noble Spartan]

Nintendo Wii! Oh wait whats that?!

Straight rip-off from wii its ashaming really.

[Noble Spartan]

Sony Nintendo Wiimote

Wii motion plus owns this crap. They did this ages ago. Lame attempt to Nintendo Wiis Glory

[hoops]

Want to have some fun?
Go back in the archives of N4G.COM when NATAL was announced at the electroincs show. See how many Sony fanboys BASHED NATAL when MS announced their motion controls in the forum calling it a Wii rippoff and Motion controls are a gimmick and crap....
Then the following day when SOny was on stage they annoucned their motion controls and watch at all the SAME VERY people that were bashing motion controls just 24 hrs earlier, PRAISING SOny's version.
Lets not forget how MS fanboys bashed the Wii remote for years like SOny fanbys did prior to any announcement of their motion controls.
Hypocrits folks. Hypocrits

[jack_burt0n]

hope!? lol thats a god damn seriously "glowing" hands on its kotaku!

http://www.gametrailers.com...

socom 4

[Jamie Foxx]

Socom 4 blew me away (thanks for the link) knowing it works with hardcore demanding games is a win,an no batteries is a big plus,it looks like all sony products...sleek,my interest has 100 percent peeked.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I don't see anything bad in the gameplay.

The Accurate is very good, and still in development, game and controllers.

So, I don't see anything bad in both things.

[Sevir04]

And it worked Just the way It was suppose to work... I want it for my self....

SOLD

[RedVsBlue]

As long as I never end up in a situation where I buy a game & get half way through it with the regular controller & I need to buy this thing to beat it later in the game. If that does not happen I am good

[Parapraxis]

That will never happen.

[Heartbroken-Menace]

I'm not a fan of motion controls and all that, but maybe because my first experience with the tech was on the wii. Nintendo calls it innovation, but man, it was the biggest gimmick this gen. Good thing Sony and Microsoft come to take it to the next level.

[Mista T]

a pre-alpha build, and it looked quite amazing. They showed all genres at GDC, family games, fighting games, platforming, a shooter like Socom 4.

It'll be a guarantee success because it will come with every PS3 along with the dualshock 3.

It's not like the wii controller, it's what the wii controller should've been

[DMason]

I actually like the fluidity of this controller. It looks really tight, and by release Im sure it will be perfected. For $100 or less, Im willing to give it a shot. That table tennis looks like a riot, Gladiator looks interesting, and Im sure they have some other kick@ss ideas up their sleeves. Im definitely not as skeptical as I once was.

[Mista T]

I agree, instead of buying a wii, It's better to buy this if you already own a PS3. $100 > $199

not to mention it will perform better, and your games will be in HD and will play with a better variety of games

[Throwaway2020]

It's like getting a PSWii for $400. Plus it's a Wii HD. That's a good deal in my book. But there better be a few more games to come or that's embarrassing. No, I'm sure they're coming. There coming. Please.

[N4g_null]

Mr. T. You are right if you own a ps3 now you should get this. Sony needs your support on this guys. Show them you want controller innovation. Hopfully the gameplay will come.

Wii in hd great idea if they can pull it off. Yet will your soccer moms buy this and after all the damage Sony and ms did to motion gaming how will they suddently get their fans to accept these controls? On top of this is the fact that you will loose system resources to make this work.

I really hope they can find away around these issues. Also it's clear most hd gamers have not played resort or a motion plus game yet.

[beardpapa]

I can't help but think with companies going towards the 3D motion control route, that the next generation of consoles will become 3D motion control standard.

It seems that if PS4 does come out, the Move is the transition to saying goodbye to the Dualshock controller. Does this mean we'll be having more fps-style motion enabled fighters and no more 2D traditional ones?

I assume that's why Nintendo made their WiiMote button configuration the way it is so that the horizontal position allows for traditional 2D games. But not many developers utilize it anyways and their primary focus for Wii development is on motion so the 1 + 2 buttons on the bottom of the WiiMote have become sort of moot and awkward to use when in vertical position. It'll be interesting to see Sony offer legacy use of the DS3 if PS4 comes out and Move becomes the standard control scheme.

[MajestieBeast]

I was pretty impressed. Also love the fact that with bluray 3rd/1st party can just put in both move and the dualshock control scheme gives people options. I think sony will ofcourse make some casual games, but with studios like atlus and fromsoftware onboard. You can expect some hardcore games and that gives me hope that this isnt gonna be dropped like the eyetoy.

[littletad]

But I feel it will perform as well as the psp go did. Even if it is cheaper, and well marketed.

[Jeff257]

I think your wrong on that. With so many Wiis out there people may take another look at the PS3 with Move and the games for it and pick one up. Also the thing holding back PSP Go was the price point and the fact it was Digital Download only. DD is not such a bad thing but the Price point was what keeps it from selling especially since there is still a much cheaper version of the PSP still on the market. Anywa this can do very well for Sony and I for one will be picking up some Move controllers and sub controllers this fall. I already have the PS Eye.

[crazy25000]

I've always wanted motion games in HD....can't wait to play boxing in 1080P against my friends :)

[sashimi]

that boxing game is going to be crazy lol, i don't think i can last that long :(

[Narutone66]

there's a Monster Hunter HD for the PS3 in the future. Imagine the possibilities of PS Move with the game.

[Vizion26]

Miyamoto: Those punk mofos copied us again. They make Miamoto angry and you don't want Miyamoto to be angry. *Eyes turn fiery*

Iwata: Chill homie. We got Vitality Sensor muhahahaha!

[alphakennybody]

Iwata: *after watching the move demos* sh*t homies, my vitality senses are of the chart! bring my my money suit asap! I need to cool-down

[sashimi]

At the price Sony is selling it for i am sold!

[siliticx]

For "under 100$" You get the Cam, the Move, the sub controller and a game!

[BryanBegins]

I don't think the sub-controller is included in this 99$ bundle. It's still expensive though, since you will likely have to buy a second Move controller in order to have motion control with both hands, as this is the case with almost all demos from Sony

[DigitalHorror81]

We've got a murder on our hands. The Natal's untimely death at the hands of Sony.

:o) BRING IT BOTS!

[Narutone66]

to develop games for PS Move, Wii, even the iPhone. EA must know something that the bots don't know.

[Arnon]

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

Activision Blizzard
Bethesda Softworks
CAPCOM
Disney Interactive
Electronic Arts
Konami
MTV Games
Namco Bandai
Sega
Square Enix
THQ Inc.
Ubisoft

Also, recently added:

BioWare
Lionhead Studios
EPIC Games

[Foliage]

Playstation Move PUBLISHER Support:

505 Games U.S.
Activision Publishing, Inc.
AQ INTERACTIVE Inc.
ARC SYSTEMS WORK CO.,LTD
ATLUS Co., LTD.
Bigben Interactive
CAPCOM CO., LTD.
CCP
Crave Entertainment
CYBERFRONT Corporation
Disney Interactive Studios
Electronic Arts Inc.
FromSoftware, Inc.
Game Republic, Inc.
GUST CO., LTD.
HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD.
IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
Koei Co., Ltd.
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Majesco Entertainment
Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
ONGAKUKAN Co., Ltd.
Oxygen Games
PAON CORPORATION
Q Entertainment Inc.
Q-GAMES, LTD.
SEGA CORPORATION
Sony Online Entertainment
Spike Co., Ltd.
SQUARE ENIX GROUP
TECMO, LTD.
THQ Inc.
UBISOFT®
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Zoo Entertainment, Inc.

http://scrawlfx.com/2010/03...

[Foliage]

You will find after reading that list, that most of the Natal supporting developers are also backing Move except for a few that have been working exclusively with Microsoft for some time.

The only developers that seem to be working exclusively with Natal are: Bethesda Softworks, MTV Games, BioWare, Lionhead Studios, EPIC Games. I'm not going to bother to list the exclusive support for Move, since you can tell by the list that it is vastly larger.

With that said, Move is proving that it is able to capture much more support from publishers.

Also keep in mind that publisher support is more important than developer support. Since publishers have multiple developers available to create their games.

[God_Of_Epicness]

Arnon just got pwned!!!

Bubbles up Foliage!

[Arnon]

Very nice. Good to see it grabbing support now. Also, the ones I listed are Publisher support. Microsoft already announced that they had 80% of the world's publishers working on Natal.

[InfiniteRetro77]

anyone notice that the demos were done in fairly dark situations? proves that you dont need a well lit room to be able to utilise the move.

[siliticx]

Not only the lightning doesnt really matter, the bulb at the end would probably shift to bright white automaticly by itself so that it stas precise.

Rather sick tech right there

[SuperbVillain]

works better than i expected.the thing i liked is that they demonstrated it using a real game people will play.It kind of reminds of pc gaming.

[chavafx]

Natal + Wii controller = Move (which also includes the Eye Toy). Seriously why use one when you can have two? Not only that, but with precise precision.

----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ---------
sorry i did not know that the aye toy has a full motion cature in 3d /Boise recognition of multiple people/and facial recognition of multiple people ..

all i have to s ay is playstation move??? can you move yeah youre arms haha

[A change in the wind]

Personally, I`m not excited for either, but Natal looks like complete crap. It`s a laggy eyetoy 2.0, nothing more.

[rezzah]

You stole my words! I forgot where i posted that comment =/

[A change in the wind]

As much as I`m sure Move is going to be better than Natal, I just can`t seem to get excited for it.

[rezzah]

cant really expect everything to be for you, if anything just hope Sony does well with getting the Move out there.

[Minokichi]

think about Sony 21 first party studios think 720 to 1080p goodnes that can come from this while using this thing come think about it all i see is FUN good HI DEF FUN LOL

[plumber15]

***K u , you just cost me more money because you know they will implement that in MLB the show 2011 now i cant wait

[Thoreau]

finally buy a ps3, they will shed the skin of ignorance and move towards the light of truth.

edit:whom is the phantom disagreer following me...if you are a 360 only owner

xbl-heavens boxer

so you can buddy up with me and take the battle to halo reach.

[Dorwrath]

Your getting disagrees because your a fanboy and brought up something that is a fanyboy comment.

You can discuss an article without being a fanboy. There was no need to bring the 360 into the article.

[R_A_LEE20]

In the beginning, the Wii wowed everyone with its motion controller and its abilities nearly 4 years ago and Sony have have picked up right where it left off, Down the Drain.

Seriously, what are Sony thinking, going into technology that is only popular with casual and family gamers. Recently the Wii has become just a fad for kids and families. What the point of doing something that is similar to the Wii's controller only slightly better.

I can see this becoming a fad real fast....

...Natal however...

[TheBand1t]

....is a gimmick itself, so I don't see why you didn't continue.

[chrisulloa]

Rofl, you guys are so butthurt. Go play your Sony Wii.

[TheBand1t]

No thanks. Unlike you 360 fankids who now suddenly love MC because it's on your console (REVOLUTIONIZE DA INDUSTRY WITH EYETOY 2.0!), I prefer playing on the console that did it first - the Wii. Not the Sony dildomote, or the sh!tty Dreameyetoy.

[God_Of_Epicness]

I won't be buying this. I hate Natal too. Maybe i'll just stick to COD, Uncharted and GOW. It'll be better than these sh!tty motion controls,no offense to you casual gamers though.

[rezzah]

Its called creating diversity in gameing which is what no other system can do. Dont like what you see? Good causes there alwasy something esle for you. Unless you just straight up like shooters then go to the 360, just like motion controls? go to the Wii. You like a bit of both + some more or everything else? Go with the PS3.

Sony is bringing 3D gaming later his summer.

[Minokichi]

you guys are not looking at the big picture i don't think Sony is only going to do casual gaming people come on i think alot of good will come of this i'm a hardcore gamer like the next guy but dam lets all just wait and see what they cook up

oh ummm namco if u reading this CAN I PLEASE GET A GOOD TIME CRISIS GAME PLEASE LOL think u

[JustCallMeMarcus]

If it talks like a duck...

[THC CELL]

I really wonder how long will the move bulbs will last

[Shadowstar]

LEDs last pretty much forever, don't they?

[solidt12]

Yep. I have a 7 year old led monitor and it still works.

[Lykon]

i honestly hope we can move through this ridiculous fad quickly and get on with the job of developing hardware and software for real games. having said that the ps3 version of arm flapping tech looks the best of the bunch, as always.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

http://www.gametrailers.com...

I don't see anything bad in the game and in the controllers, and both are still in development.

Under 100$, 2 controllers, the Camera and 1 Game.

That's how I call, a good deal with very nice quality of hardware.

[360fanboi]

Now you have the Wii with some SERIOUS GRAPHICS POWAH!!!

This is gonna rock with FPS games

[OGharryjoysticks]

I just got a real bad feeling on this one...

Since the majority of games tend to fall into the shooter catagory, what if the Move improves shot accuracy and the shot aim timing similar to a mouse? If it does I'm afraid people might actually begin to abandon the tradtional controller

[ReBurn]

Take a look at Red Steel. Yeah...

[solidt12]

It would be more realistic and have better accuracy than a mouse. Win Win. You just better get your skills up buddy.

[Kwertie]

Protip: It's still a Wii remote no matter how much you defend it.

It has the same basic 2 piece design, uses motion as input and serves the same purpose. That's like saying a reliant robin isn't a car because it only has 3 wheels.

[jack_burt0n]

Good to know so i can stop waiting for natal because its just an eyetoy. Actually i can stop waiting for everything because they are all just games lol.

[Legionaire2005]

It remains to be seen if it can actually do better than the Wii remote with games during this fall season and beyond. I will buy this first before Natal(which I am still unsure about). Sega Dreamcast was the first system for online than PS2, Xbox, Xbox360, PS3 and Wii all copyed. The DLC idea started with the original Xbox than everyone copyed. The Xbox360 had achievements than ever system had their own version of the same thing. Now Nintendo Wii remote is copyed by PS3 and Xbox360 too. What next LOL!!! Remember what came first.

[Sty]

but this is a ripoff... I only have a ps3, but I can only see a wii remote and a nunchuck

[kraze07]

Yeah, keep telling yourself it's different. I'm sorry but I'm not with all this motion control stuff. I'd rather have a controller/mouse and keyboard for any gaming situation.

[ReBurn]

Time for all of the people who've been criticizing Nintendo for 3 years to start singing the praises of Sony and their innovative ways. I guess it's the ball on the end that makes it innovative.

[PS360_37]

Its hypocrtical because of what you said, but also because the same idiots are bashing Natal because they hate the 360. Now...this is the most innovative thing in the world even though it is an upgraded wiimote.

[bjornbear]

Wii still sucks

Move still sucks

and Natal still sucks (the most since its being hyped the most)

this is just a better version than the wii mote thats all

just because its BETTER doesn't mean its being praised

Gotta love the people calling out the hypocrites as if they've never said ANYTHING hypocritical on this site or in life

gotta love the hypocrite loving hypocrites

[ReBurn]

So since you brought it up, what makes it better than the Wii remote? Is it the little ball on the end? Is it because Sony says it's better and you just believe it? What's more compelling about this than the Wii?

[solidt12]

PSeye came first. lol

[arny]

sony is just copying and pasting the wii remote... i bet after this ms will also make something like this

[solidt12]

PSeye came first. lol

[PS360_37]

Its really funny to see hypocrites in action. And I think you all know why some of you are being hypocritical.

[bjornbear]

its a superior sleeker looking wii mote with a colourful ball on top

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

The Technology is superior. The Hardware builded, is far superior.

[Dorwrath]

Won't be buying it.

My Wii is for my kids, but they prefer controllers over motion control.

So won't be buying.

[news4noobs]

just some more hardware lying around, collecting dust, thanks but no thanks. besides that it looks like a kids toy or a pleasure stick for the ladies.
If Natal really works they way they say it will, it's gonna piss on this crap from very far above.

[Garrison]

Actually making stuff that works for a lot of games Instead of showing people laggy motion controls/ silly dodgeball games.

[PStu'rd]

Yes folks, this is the exact SAME company that released the ps1 and ps2 what now feels was a whole millennium ago.

Sony RIP 19something - 2006

[bennyace]

From the article it seems that the sphere changes color to be one that is not visible to the eyetoy. Does that mean that you have to play with big lights on? Hope not. And by the way it costs 5$ to make the wiimote wireless so it's not a big feature.

I'm a PS3 owner but not a fanboy at all. And you fanboys have been saying since the release of the WII, that it's not a console it's a gimmick. But now that the PS3 is going in that direction, does it mean that the PS3 is no longer a console. If I want to play motion sensor games I have my WII, so I dont need this. Sorry not for me.

[borgome]

Playstaion owners will also take advantage of the devices secondary function, which is a Butt Plug.

[W-k]

move seems to have very mixed opinions, i see alot of people hateing on it just because its similar to the wii mote and just alot of idiots saying they copyed it and yeah sure why wouldn't they , can you think of a better motion controller design probably not it will just end up being like the wii and what could be so wrong with that?.companys have been copying each outher for years but some how its only a problem when sony dose it? w.e ms copyed apple thus windows was born,consolse copyed arcade games, now somebodys going to tell me Bats copyed birds because they have wings lmao!!.. so far i like Move looks like it has a chance to revocationEYEs the Fps but the best and smartest move Sony is makeing is there not going to make you use move, you will always beable to use the regular controller.i hope they show off some more hardcore games at E3

[OC_MurphysLaw]

But this is just a straight up rip off of the Wii mote. Sure its a little more precise, but dont kid yourselves this is all about copying what Nintendo can do with better graphics. Sony has been very upfront that they want all the Wii developers making their games for the PS3 too.

Sure you will get a game like Socom 4 but you are also getting an avalanche of shovelware with this "its just like developing for the Wii" premise.

[mcnablejr]

looks sh!t

[Thoreau]

the fact that i am a fanboy of the ps3 means nothing because i am a fanboy of the xbox whom happens to have also bought a 360 and issued a challenge. i don't mind issuing a challenge or being called a fanboy. the truth remains that i stand behind everything i type. is being a fanboy a bad thing nope. i just notice that n4g.com has many shallow followers whom seem to follow the same suit

the challenge goes to you as well.

anytime you want to get beating in a game

psn-southpaw79
xbl-heavens boxer

i go beyond the type and actually play games on both consoles with the time that i have permitted.

[air1]

this guy does have both.......

i'll take that challenge though, did you ever get fight night? (ps3)

or

mw2 (360)

how can you call your self heavens boxer and south paw but not have fight night? assuming you still didnt get it.. i really wanted to knock your head around when fnr came out.

[RH06]

I still don't get the ball on the end...Looks like a lollipop

[solidt12]

Kids love things that glow. I was at the circus and the kids were going crazy over all the crap that glows. But they said it helps with motion detection by the color of the room or something like that.

[2cents]

im just saying.
Tech sounds good, will no doubt get it just to experience it.

But damn, I cant shake the feeling that something aint right. If I were nintendo Id be seriously pissed off AND looking through my patent and copyright catalog. lol

[solidt12]

and the DS3 looks like other controllers too. What did you expect. It's called being ergonomic.

[2cents]

dont really wanna argue, people will believe what they want to.
And I believe that sony have effectively made the wii 2. Doesnt mean its not a stunning piece of hardware, its just heavily borrowed from nintendo.

Its almost as if the bods up at sony headquaters sat in a room with a wii-mote and brainstormed how they could make it better.

No different to MS with natal, vs all other camera peripherals that have preceded it. My opinion and thats all it is, but MS seem to have pushed the boat out further than sony when it comes to trying something new in the motion controlling space. Either way Im getting both, so I dont hold a grudge, and dont really care. Just stating what my mind is thinking when I see the PS Move.

[tiamat5]

What people don't understand is Sony is advertising this for us the PS3 owners. Of course a WII owner will say that the Wiimote is better and a 360 owner will say that the Natal is better. But who really cares what you think. If PS3 owners think that it may have a chance who cares what others think? Why is it that non-PS3 owners think it fun to rain on our parade or step on our opinions? Do you really think that even if the Move fails that I or any PS3 owner will run out and buy a 360 for the Natal? Or a Wii for the Wii-mote? If it fails it fails. Sony will move on just like Microsoft moved on after that epic format fail they had a few years ago. The failure of the Move won't end the Sony empire like everyone seems to think it will.

[hoops]

It is a Wii remote. Telling yourself otherwise is fooling yourself.
Natal is also a ripp off of the Wii remote. Both SOny and MS decided to get on that train becuase thats where the money is.
Its called business. Seems now the haters of the Wii remote are now in love with MOVE and NATAL. Hypocrisy at its finest

[JayD-1K]

a PS Eye rip off and if i'm not mistaken, the motion control is a rip off of the PS1 motion control. was the Wii an improvement on the old motion control...YES, is NATAL trying to be an improvement on the PS Eye...YES, and is the MOVE trying to improve on the Wii motion controls....YES! (in the presentation Sony clearly gives Nintendo respect and recognition for the Wii remote!)

[Subzero200x]

yeah it's just a rip off of the wiimote....motion control isn't looking stupid anyone is it now sony?

"its a superior sleeker looking wii mote with a colourful ball on top"

lol i think u mean inferior the wiimote comes packed in day one price, and this is another $100 dollars just to copy what nintendo does right out of the box....sony is doomed.

[MegaBit]

I see it as more of an improved Wiimot.

[Modestmex]

Sub HD people! get it right and thats a wii mote in black.

[air1]

the irony of you ppl..

move isnt copying the wii but natal is copying the eye thing even though it clearly advances on it in so many ways just like move advances on the wii.

[bigjclassic]

Its a Wii mote with a superior sensor bar (PSeye). Oh well, I hope KZ3 uses it because the Wiimote is great for FPS games. Also I hope Madden and Fifa take lessons from their Wii brother control wise.

[spektical]

my question is, will the nunchuck replace won the moves, so we dont have to buy 2, to use a crossbow?

[Rageanitus]

looks more like a dildo ;)

[Thoreau]

get on that tekken 6,i slept on fight night for tekken 6 ps3. check my xbl profile, as you can see i have not been on in awhile. i bought mw2 for the ps3 because of less glitching. i am going to be all on halo:reach though. as for boxing, yeah i still train for self defense, but i just took up brazilian jiu jitsu for grapple defense. where i live the studios are springing up all over the place so i might as well add to the skill set. get on that tekken 6 if you want that beating..

[alb1899]

it must be called ps3's wii controls!

[alb1899]

i think natal is something different not this...

[JJFNIGHTS80]

It is a Wii Remote without the cord connecting. I wonder what Nintendo saying when they saw this.