Button config. of PlayStation Arc revealed

PS Uni writes: "Sony's full fledged answer to motion-control gaming beyond the Sixaxis will be on its way to the PlayStation 3 later this year with a healthy number of exclusive games. The system will make use of the PlayStation Eye, what we've previously nicknamed the 'Wand' and an additional wireless controller that's similar to the Wii's 'nunchuck'. We can now reveal the button configuration of each controller within the 'PlayStation Arc' set."

[sinncross]

Sounds like a decent configuration.

[nskinnear]

Agreed... I like it.

[sikbeta]

It's Better than the wand-only and it's very good cuz it'll be like the device used in the E309, that was Really Really Better than the dil...wand...

Gaming FTW

[Blaze929]

Well IF this is true then a sigh of relief is taken that they will be releasing a "nunchuck" and won't force us to use the Dual Shock 3 isntead.

[Carl1412]

So if the face buttons are below the analogue stick, how the hell to i press one and use the stick at the same time?

[PirateThom]

The nunchuck (with the analogue) only has X and O, the wand has the big button and the normal buttons around it, as well as the trigger.

[Fishy Fingers]

Have you ever used a Wii? Thumb for the analog stick, fingers below for the buttons. Its set out in the natural way you'd hold something.

[Danteh]

I heard there was a vibration button to use it as a sex toy, rite?

...

[Carl1412]

Thanks. I have used a Wii, but never used a nunchuck.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

It's good Sony listen to their customers and copied the Wii. Why re-invent something that already works really well.

Now let's see some innovative games for the Arc!!!

[HolyOrangeCows]

"These occurences have apparently influenced Sony’s decision to produce a ‘nunchuck-like’ controller to support the Wand and make their answer to the Wii more useful for party and hardcore games"

I hope this is true. I don't want to have to hold the dualshock just for the directional pad and L buttons.

[DaTruth]

There is; It's called, stick it in the right place and have the game character get pummeled in whatever game you're playing!

[Noctis Aftermath]

I need pics.

[mikeslemonade]

Sounds like a winning combination.

[randomwiz]

The wii doesn't work well...

The the nunchuck is so unergonomic. Playing SSB Brawl or MKW hurts your hand after a while, because the analogue is so hard, and just a terror to use.

The remote itself has badly placed buttons. I can't reach 1 + 2 or the dpad without adjusting my hand from where its positioned over A. Plus its heavy for one hand.

[PaLaK-]

So Basically, you buy a PS3, you have top exclusive games, a top blu ray player, a beast of games console and you have a wii built in, and you have PSN which is like Xbox live.. You don't need a wii or an xbox except for the xbox/wii exclusives of course if you have a PS3. Just when you thought it couldn't get any better!

[mastiffchild]

I've moaned long(there's a shock) and hard about the putrid answer to the nunchuck controller problem that Sony used with the one handed DS3 at TGS. It didn't work, looked crap, kids couldn't use it and would be uncomfy for even the largest of hands as well as being the least ergonomic and pikeyest thing ever made by Sony.

Being honest i'll be hugely relieved if and when this gets shown to be true(and he HAS really staked his rep on this one)as it's Sony's only hope. Without it Wands were dead. Now, maybe, we'll get to see if Sony can manage the FPAS and Lightsaber controls we expected from the Wii. Ifd they can, and the FPS could compete with K/M for accuracy and beat it for immersion then MC could see a bit of a true gaming rebirth. Seriously, done well I think it still could beat out dual sticks for shooters easily. RE4 was best on the Wii and RE5 played like it and without Sheva(just a dream of mine)would be great. I even like the idea of KZ3 supporting it as long as they implement it as well as they would if it were the ONLY control method available.whatever, I want to find out how accurate the things are and without a second,. analog stick holding controller I wouldn't have bothered after trying the DS3 in one hand and finding it a joke-and that's without worrying about buttons as well as the stick.

[Bigpappy]

Wii games are not going to buy a PS3 to play wii style games. This control scheme will be sold to PS3 owners who don't mine having some motion control. Wether it is better or not is irrelevant, are the wii user will see it as the same thing they have on the wii. Natal will still have a better at attracting some of the wii crowd, because it offers a completely different option. One that will peak their interest because they don't see a remote. Its like a magic show. When they can just get in front of the TV and start to jump around and run in place for their 15min workout, with out ever having to touch a remote, they will be ready to buy. Nothing in your hands is a major selling tool for casual gamers and non-gamers, many of whom still did not buy a wii.

@ mastiffchild: I agree with you on the importance of this addition (if it is true). DS3 + wand would have guarantied failure for the wand.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

http://i48.tinypic.com/28lc...

[shadow2797]

I don't understand the description at all. It doesn't sound like all the buttons are accessible from the same position. That's a no-no.

So if a game tells you to press X (or O), how do you know which one to press? Do both controllers send the same signal when those buttons are pressed?

Second of all, are they linked like the Wii? (I hope not). Does the Nunchuck have a ball and accelerometers? (I hope so).

I'm skeptical until I see pictures, this doesn't sound great.

[Coffin87]

Maybe the configuration is OK but I am really asking myself what gamers need this for.. I don't really think I will be sticking with it.

[ll_UNDERSCORE_ll]

I hope they can incorporate MLB the show on the list either 10, or 11 down the line.

[edgeofblade]

#1 thing going for Arc: buttons. I really think Arc is going to be the better motion tech, even if Natal happens to be the more popular.

I'm getting Natal and Arc, unless I try one in the store and it just blows. With the rest of the generation riding on this tech, both sides know the stakes.

[dabri5]

Motion controls need to go away. I just haven't seen them used in a fun and creative way yet. It's all too gimmicky.

[PinkUni]

are you kidding? this is exactly the kind of stuff gamers need

gaming is about competition between players, this thing is 1:1 ratio with the real world, that means that the controls become a higher resolution.

think of it like this, would you rather use a dpad or a analog stick to look around in an fps? of course you would pick an analog stick because they are much more complex and have slower to faster speeds for looking, not to mention multiple directions

now when you introduce something like the ark, you not only have different speeds, but different angles, different depth and the speed of the visualization is controlled by your body movements.

its higher resolution controls

[dabri5]

It's the wii with prettier games. Unfortunatly that's what they are trying to do. Grab some of the wii's market. That more than means more garbage wii type games.

[MajestieBeast]

They listend to us when we said it needed a nunchuk thank god. Demons souls and Heavy rain patched for motion controls make it happen sony.

[sinncross]

I expect to see Heavy Rain and LittleBigPlanet being shown at GDC. Both are unique titles which Sony have tried to push: showing them off with motion controls will only give both some extra marketting which is a good move.

There is also talk of Killzone 3 being shown in addition to it having Arc support: could make for a nice reveal but I really want to see what this Ape Escape launch title is going to be like... Ape Escape enters the HD era is too potentially cool to overlook.

[CrimsonFox13]

Hell yeah! Demon's souls with the tech of the sword and shield and the bow and arrow from the E3 demo would be great!

[DaTruth]

Demon's Souls requires two analog sticks and dual wielding wands! It will be impossible now.

Edit: Maybe if they had head tracking, that can read small turns so you don't have to take your eyes off the screen. Look slightly to the right and the character turns till you center your head again! Up and down would work the same.

[Valcore01]

Adding it to Demon Souls would make that game even better. If they officially announce that then I am definitely going to get one. Now they just need a list of games and a picture and I will be set. Anyone know the release date?

[Ravage27]

definitely Demon's Souls 2

[jack_burt0n]

they didnt listen to just having an analog on the arc using 2 for a dualshock setup :(

edit:
First off i was thinking about them being sold in pairs as well, and also for demons souls style setup u would have had left arm 1:1, right arm 1:1, analog movement and analog camera............ but would have probably made casuals burst into flames

[sinncross]

I dont see how that is a bad thing... the Arc controller itself can be used for camera movement in a similar way it is used on the analog on a dualshock.

While I get the dualshock option you are talking about, I don't think it will be as feasible as an optional dualshock as you may think. Still I get what you meant.

[Raf1k1]

Agreed but the problem with using the Arc for panning around is that you can only move it so much in one direction before you end up facing away from the TV. With a mouse you can pick it up off the surface and re-place it somewhere that allows you to keep panning which isn't something you can do with the Arc.

[hatchimatchi]

Camera control has been an issue when it comes to motion based games. The lack of a second analog stick is what it comes down to.

[mrv321]

Analogue stick for the win... every controller for the next generation consoles have analogue sticks except... never mind.

Anagolgue sticks ARE useful.

[4point7BillionLoss]

Well done sony ... your innovation knows no bounds.

Fail behind - Pony.

[SonySoldiers]

"The system will make use of the PlayStation Eye, what we've previously nicknamed the 'Wand' and an additional wireless controller that's similar to the Wii's 'nunchuck'."... XBOTS STOP READING HERE

[HypermysticsonicHMSX]

@4point7BillionLoss

Well done microsoft ... your bribes know no bounds.

Flop In - Microcost.

Pony...XD lol wtf were you smoking?!

[GR8 1]

Natal = Next Gen

PS3 wand is just pure wii copy and that is pathetic low life's Sony. Sony and Sony fan boys make me sick there is no word to describe what they are.

[techie]

They are human beings like you, who don't seem to have anything better to do than to pine over a piece of hardware, defend it and attack the competition - just like you.

[digger18]

Sony fan boys make you sick???? WTF!!!

You are in a PS3 only thread and you have the cheek to call out PS3 fan boys

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[The real killer]

You make me sick with your big mouth and bash every things related to Sony, you freaking loser, i put you in my ignore list stupid spam kid.

[DigitalHorror81]

Seriously, you come into a PS3 thread praising the Natal with nothing to back it up? Get the hell out.

[rezzah]

Natal is just like the Eye Toy thats been out since last Gen. But nooo Natal isnt copying anything >.>

[Marty8370]

LAGTAL = Epic Fail

BTW I can think of plenty of words that will describe how you and other bots will look like playing LAGTAL, 'retarded' springs to mind.

Sorry, but pretending to use a plate as a steering wheel, is a stupid idea.

Jump Out, Play B3yond

[ZombieAutopsy]

LMAO @ GR8 1

Natals' tech isnt anything new at all, and the fact they took out the processor makes it even more like an eye-toy. Funny thing is imagine if they started utilizing the CELL processor with the PsEYE....i bet you would get alot better games out of that than Natal using the Xbox's CPU.

Now that being said i want both Natal and Arc to fail as motion type controls are for kids and monkeys and most of you are stupid anyways because you're most likely the same people who bashed the Wii for its "gimicky" controls and now are praising your console of choice for using gimicks too....ohh yea i forgot this is N4G.

[Chaos Striker]

So, instead of a nunchuk, the Sony Arc has a batton? xD

[chavafx]

the reason i dont like most games on ps3 is because of the funny flopy feel of most games on the ps3 controller

[silkrevolver]

Don’t get me wrong, the dualshock is my favorite controller, but I agree: I want these new controls. I liked the feeling in Metroid 3 of shooting a gun. I wonder if there will be rumble in them though...

[butterfinger]

After the whole rumble controversy going into this gen with the Sixaxis controller, I'd like to think that Sony won't be excluding it in any new controllers.

[blusoops]

yes, i'm fairly certain rumble will be included in these controllers. I can't remember where i read it but i'm pretty sure i saw it somewhere in an article. lol

[silkrevolver]

I, for one, am very excited about the Arc and I’d rather play games that way than with a dualshock... I was so excited about playing that way on the Wii.... until I actually played the Wii...

[siliticx]

its gonna be announced tomorrow :S

[silkrevolver]

I thought SONY’s conference was Wednesday?

[nskinnear]

Sony's Conference is March 10th.

[siliticx]

Holy moly, i was misinformed, sorry! I was startig to make plans, nice.

[techie]

Three days to wait to see if this is true =)

[nskinnear]

Hopefully GDC brings some good announcements.

[chavafx]

yes playstation wii

[techie]

How about the Pee On Me ?

[stb]

To take one of your bubble off, you just simply failed hard saying such thing as pswii...so it is natal toy...anyway wii stay under, ps3 stay over, you get it¿? hope so.

[dustgavin]

The 360 Activator. And it will bomb just as bad.

[God_Of_Epicness]

Natal lags. Sorry but that is an epic FAIL in my books. I won't buy both but i'll try it out at my friend's house. I'm sure. He'll buy a Natal. When i play it, i sure hope it doesn't lag cos if it does, then, poor bots, no games to play, laggy hardware etc etc etc. How it is so hard being a bot.

[Slient Knight 9]

i wonder if sony will call their 'nunchuck' Dove makes sense since the motion controller is called Arc.

Hopefully see both working at GDC show and some games would be nice.

[nskinnear]

I'm expecting most of the game announcements to be at E3 (same with the Natal games).

[kanetheking]

not useing no wand thing stay with the ds3.

[nskinnear]

I love the DS3 as well, but I'm also looking forward to seeing how the motion controller will feel.

[seifer085]

interested, I want that Jurrasic park lightgun game. It was so awesome.

[GrandDragon]

YEEEEEESS!!! the true sequel to Ape Escape 3 is finally coming.

Can't wait to play it.

[nskinnear]

Ahhh, me neither! :)

[BannedForNineYears]

Since when did it have a nunchuck thingy? Awesome!

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

... for the kids. Cant wait to use this with Sing and Draw and LBP too. ^_^ Thanks for rewarding our patience Sony.

[nskinnear]

I'm really looking forward to the games they announce for this thing. Hopefully, it's not a bunch of gimmicky stuff; but instead, some great first-party developed games :)

[Random404]

I think you should be thanking nintendo not sony.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

for kicking Sony up its arse and gave it a nice solid slap on the back.
Now Sony is hell bent on making quality first-party games on every possible genre available by the old fashioned Ninty formula. HQuality games that have long legs as opposed to M$ strategy of giving away free money to every moving thing in the industry.

Sony has learned its lesson well thanks to you, Ninty. ^_^

Now its waggling time in HD style.

Heh heh heh

[ImmortalLegend]

I'm just not liking all of this motion sensing craze going on with both the 360 and PS3. Quit trying to be like the Wii. Of course I'm not going to be able to give my final verdict until I actually use the devices, but right now I'm just not liking this motion sensing movement.

[Lykon]

yeah my feelings exactly. i think the wii has got the kids/girls toy/gimmick arm flapping market pretty well covered , I'd have preferred to see the effort go on something worthwhile for gamers instead.

[dustgavin]

Digging the analog stick and layout.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I don't see anything wrong about the different styles:

http://i48.tinypic.com/28lc...

The Pad Key, is not even a problem.

[RohanLee]

I hope this Wii clone does good...

[W-k]

this sounds cool , i would like to see a elder scrolls/Dragon age/Demons souls Rpg kind of game, that would be a Awesome way to slay darkspawn.:P(fighting them kind of like in the e3 demo,that was cool)

[Meryl]

I can't wait now, Sony have answered my requests, now I shall buy the Arc, sorry Natal you are going to be stillborn now

[bujasem_89]

like the xbox this link does not work Zing

[Solotov]

If this is true, then sounds good to me. It really needed a nunchuck-style controller with an analog stick. The thing I don't like about the Wand is the stupid light at the end of it. I hope it will be optional to turn it off. Be nice if Capcom patches or releases another version of RE5 made for PS3 motion controls....

[RohanLee]

Why do gimmicks sell?

[DelbertGrady]

Funny how civil the discussion was in this post compared to Natal articles.

I still want to see proper software until I decide what to make of Arc and Natal.

[Enjoi915111]

its cause this is a ps3 article. and 360 fans arent as immature (besides bungie) on N4g........even on a new trailer on alan wake the ps3 cronies hammered it to the ground....a trailer...

but its n4gps3 so who cares

time to play some more mag and get ready for FF midnight

[mushroomwig]

Thank god, a nunchuck! :]

[Enjoi915111]

sounds likes the wiimote and nunchuck ....gj sony

[AWBrawler]

Mimick em! Thats Sony's plan. LOL

[Gr81]

Thats always been their plan, *cough* rumble pack *cough*

But the sad thing is that the same people calling Wii a gimmick are now praising this Wii knock off attempt by Sony..Hilarious.

[jack_burt0n]

its a good sign that u sound really bitter, from a gaming point of view all they need to do is release a decent game once a year to compete with the wii :)

[tunaks1]

I want to see a game specifically designed for the Arc that cannot be done without it, until then this is just a wii remote with a giant ball on the top.

[Gr81]

Bitter? More like mildly amused by the hypocrisy and double talk.

[AWBrawler]

Objection!

I played enough Phoenix Wright to know how to back up my claims. LOL
Check their comments and you can see them dissing motion, but I don't care. Everyone knows when Nintendo speaks the gaming world listens. If this ain't a sign HD consoles are competing with Wii, what is? Its also a sign that Wii won!!!

[tiamat5]

I am liking the sound of the Wand more and more. I really don't care if Natal is good too. I have a PS3. I am only concerned if the Wand works. I trust that Sony will at least deliver a solid periphral that mostly works if not completely.