Did the fans pull Slant Six out of the sh**?

It appears that Slant Six are pleased at the reports of Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City's first week success story, but the question has to be asked, is this the doing of Resident Evil fans alone?

[Rageanitus]

ummmm this game is NOT for the RE enthusiasts because it is a SPINOFF. Hence the negative reviews. Its like expecting luigis mansion to be like a mario game.

Having said that, it was a good game... felt like the same enjoyment level as Binary domain, which is a game everyone should try if your into shooters.

[Noctis Aftermath]

If they wanted to do a different game it should not of used the RE name.

It's low scores arent just because it's different to mainline RE games, it's because of the amount of bugs, the shit characters, the shit AI and several other factors.

[SilentNegotiator]

"Having said that, it was a good game"

I disagree. There is nothing special about the gameplay mechanics or gameplay in general. Below par, really.

It definitely didn't JUST get low scores because it wasn't traditional RE. RE4 shook things up a good deal....did IT get low scores?

It sucks seeing IPs abused, though. Banjo-Kazooie: N&B for example....that was okay, even if a little too loose with gameplay, but slapping Banjo into it made it insulting. They could have had ANY characters/collectibles occupy that game. All you did with the Jiggies was put them in a giant bubble....puzzle pieces just thrown together....yeah, something tells me it wasn't originally planned to be Banjo-Kazooie.

[turgore]

Especially the shit shooting

[hay]

Name alone sells games. Making spinoffs which are outside of original series' target demography increases intellectual property/brand awareness therefore increases potential fanbase and sales.

It's apparent that Capcom makes blockbuster franchise out of RE. There are movies, games, CGI, novels, etc. And now they try to expand their reach with the franchise.

After second RE there was huge decline for the series.
RE3 sold 3.5m, which is 1.5m less than RE and RE2.
Code Veronica sold less than 3m.
Zero was the all time low for the series selling around 1.5m
They had to do something or RE would die.

Here enters RE4 with revamped more action centric gameplay. This alone sold 7m across all platforms and editions and got into Guiness World Records for highest selling survival horror game.

RE5 alone sold around 6m, without additional editions which was biggest RE commercial success up to date.

If again, they'll stagnate, Capcom might find themselves in similar spot in few years. Hence branching of the franchise.

It's how the industry rolls.

[RedDead]

I'm 94.5% sure Most RE fans don't know. I friend of mine is just as big an RE fan I am and just considered it another RE.

[OhMyGandhi]

I liked Luigi's Mansion. :(

[Getowned]

me to haha, who needs the ghost busters when you can grab your vacuum and tape a flash light on it :P

[SilentNegotiator]

It was good, just far too short.

[NYC_Gamer]

The game is only selling because it says Resident Evil on the cover

[dedicatedtogamers]

True. CAPCOM is going after the COD/Gears/Dead Space crowd, it seems.

[kratos123]

dude don't compare dead space with crappy RE

[SephirothX21]

Resident Evil 2 and Silent Hill 2 are the two best survival horror games ever made imo. Oh when will we see games like those again?

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

I 100% agree with that!

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

People just love shooters plus it has resident evil
on the front,it was always going to sell well.
Shame really because it pissed a lot of the hardcore
fans off and from what i have read its just a buggy mess anyway.
Not played it myself though,was put off by
the bad reviews they all seemed to have the same problems.

[JsonHenry]

I'll probably pick this up on a Steam sale later in the summer. At least I hope it is coming to steam.

[kevnb]

easy proof that nobody reads reviews, or atleast not a significant amount of people.

[FunAndGun]

I think its proof of how a name can sell a game.

[kevnb]

that too

[Kalowest]

While your reading, they're enjoying a game they probably like, and are making their own opinions on it.

[SilentNegotiator]

And plenty of the players are simultaneously playing and dislike it.

[svoulis]

What I don't understand is people saying the bad A.I. Uh, name a game any game with squad base (especially that you don't command) that doesn't have buggy A.I teammates?

I rememeber specifically Mass Effect 2 and 3, I can't remember how many times the characters would just run around and I'd have to force them to get behind cover and stop being stupid A.I.

That could easily be said about any game, the good part of RE: ORC is that at least you have the option to have friends play as the other characters and not just the computer.

The enemy A.I is not dumb at the least they even dive away from grenades and know how to throw them well. A lot of people are like "reviews this , reviews that" and haven't even played the damn game.

The day I use reviews as a guide to buying a game that has in the past or present sparked my interest is the day I stop being a gamer. Reviews are opinions based on ANOTHER'S experience.

The spin off does well in 2 areas Co-op and competitive online. The campaign is completely forgettable but if you are a trophy hunter or achievement hunter you'll go back and get all the S+ rankings (which is very hard to do)

While I agree with some reviews about key parts, like the enemies being bullet sponges and the computer A.I on your team isn't that great. I don't think this game deserves a 3 or 4 out of 10. It's playable all modes and there is nothing wrong but a lackluster story and some wonky A.I.

I mean who buys games for single player anymore anyway right?! Multiplayer is where its at.

/s

[SilentNegotiator]

"What I don't understand is people saying the bad A.I. Uh, name a game any game with squad base (especially that you don't command) that doesn't have buggy A.I teammates?"
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How is that an excuse? Detrimental AI cannot be excused by other games having detrimental AI.

"A lot of people are like "reviews this , reviews that" and haven't even played the damn game"
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And plenty have played it and have issues with it. Would it HAVE so many average/low reviews if they didn't? What's your point?

"It's playable all modes and there is nothing wrong but a lackluster story and some wonky A.I"
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And lackluster gameplay mechanics. And campaign in general.

[Kahvipannu]

"I mean who buys games for single player anymore anyway right?! Multiplayer is where its at.
"

People who bought Skyrim? Fall Outs? Mass Effects? Witchers? MGS's? Deus Ex's? Civilizations? Batmans? Total Wars? Dead Spaces? etc... And believe it or not, as laughable as it sounds, one of my friends bought all MW's becouse of the sp.. Oh well, we all have different taste.

Believe me, sp is still as strong as it has always been. The thing with this particular game is that when people have bought RE game, they have gotten what they expect, a stellar sp experience, and this game seems to not do that so well, so I can see the fuzz about it.. But yeah, not all care about that, some just wan't the mp.

Personally, I would have hoped also stellar sp, but seeing the mp footage, I might pick this up. It looks fun, and I would be lyeing if I would not find the RE setting appealing for mp madness..

[svoulis]

i did write /s as /sarcasm because I love single player games as well. All the ones you've mentioned a matter of fact, My point was that people are bad mouthing it because of what they read not what they've played. I would rather rent a game and try it out before believing a review.

An example is Unit 13, I love the game I love the Sh@# out of it, but most sites gave it a 5-7 at best. So if I were to go by reviews I probably would've looked passed it.

[Kahvipannu]

My bad, didn't notice the /s, apologies. But yeah, I agree, every review is an single persons opinion. Is it more relevant than for someone who isn't reviewer? Maybe, maybe not, it varies in many things.

People stare the review numbers (which is a system that should go away, but that will never happen..), and don't realize that the context is the thing that matters. "Oh how you can give this 9, and this 8, zomg herp derp..", such a pointles thing, I don't know why people care. They are opinions ffs, and the number is just a number, it does not tell anything else than did the reviewer personally like the game in overall..

Some say reviews of big sites matter since these are "professional reviewers", how is that? They are people that have certain things they prefer, some like certain art style, gameplay, some look at the value of the purchase, some look past some flaws, some are harsh for some flaws, some give more weight on story, etc.. Giving a number with these variations is useless, it's just for the traffic for the site, and so income to the site..

Also it isn't good for the industry, I won't go again explaining why Metacritics is a cancer, but people devs have lost projects/bonuses becouse of it, a system that is flawed. Publishers and devs shouldn't care for things like MEta, but unfortunatelly that is not the case.. Also deals like "You get to review our game before release if you give it score of X or higher".. Really? Pfff..

And same thing that happened to you with Unit 13 (haven't tryed it), happened with Lost Odyssey to me. It was slanted to the ground for being just like FF (funny thing, FF XIII was slanted that it wasn't like FF, go figure...), whis should not have been a surprise, since it's from the creators of original FF. It did mediocre at reviews, but I would say it's best JRPG I have played, it is simply amazing game. Thank god I did not buy the revioews on that title.

[MPGamersheep]

I hope Slant Six doesnt take this as "Obviously we nailed this game and should make more of them that play exactly the same", because this game is mediocre at best in every way.

[Sevir]

The worst blunder to a franchise! Honestly Capcom knew before hand that this game had serious issues... And Slant Six new the issues were horrible. Capcoms business decision to let these incompetent developers ruin a franchise should not go punished. They! Totally ignored the signs and released a horrid game all in the name of slapping RE on the pack and recouping the Lost from the inevitable millions they'd get from having Resident Evil on the pack. The Japanese version of Activision is Capcom!

[CashColeTrain1337]

Fixed: Japanese version of EA is Capcom.

[Rainstorm81]

I disagree, although greed drives all three companies...... EA has released far more quality titles than capcom or activision this generation.

Capcom is like Activision....greedy while putting out a lackluster product while milking a franchise name

[GraveLord]

Why is MS-Xbox World so obsessed with this game? The game sells half of what RE5 in its first week and they call it "Incredible".

[busytoad]

remember 90%of xbox users are under the age of 15,their idiotic kids.

[BI0RAPTOR]

From day one I tried so hard to give this a chance to shine.
But with the lag,the inconsistent hit detection.Player`s spam knifing fest,the unbalance of the MP and on and on.
I just found myself getting fustrated with the game and not having fun.
A week went by and I traded it back in before the cost goes down for this rushed spin off title.
I am 17 pounds out of pocket and feel a bit of a fool because I did not listen to people who tried telling me this is a poor game.
The big reason I looked into this and tried giving it the benefit of the doubt was indeed the Resident Evil aspect of it or should I say the little there is.

[lsujester]

Take off the last sentence and it sounds Call of Duty. :P

[jc48573]

remember how Ninja Theory said that making games for fans will kill the franchise? Yea, sure...

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

I don't understand why game developers are pandering to audiences anyway.

You don't see most musicians caring what their audience thinks about the music. You don't see most authors caring what readers think about their books. I'm sorry, but if I'm going to make video games (an art form, remember?), then I'm going to make them my way. If an individual doesn't have enough awareness of the industry and the way games SHOULD play, then that is their problem. We have quality assurance testers for a reason. Apparently, they aren't doing their jobs correctly.

[DigitalRaptor]

This is the perfect example of a game that sells on brand identity alone.

To those that argue that high sales mean quality, forget it, because the fact that this broken mess of a game is selling so well is solid proof that you are wrong.

[sloth3395]

this game isn't have as broken as fall out new Vegas was and that scored a lot higher

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Because Fallout: New Vegas had an expansive world with rich detail, interesting story lines, and hundreds of hours of gameplay.

Raccoon City is an 8 hour suck-fest!

[Kostchtchie]

the game is good an we are all enjoying it, sucks for you guys that did not like it but then resident evil died after 3, 4 was garbage, 5 was garbage, and 6 cod mission jumping about the place as different characters will be shit, all of them sold on the back of the true originals also, re:orc is closest some us will get to the originals 2-3s ever being in raccoon city again, while rest you keep playing the mutated virus, what next folks aliens that have been mutated, bullshit...

[jeeves86]

You are a master of sarcasm.

[Razgriz383]

I thought the fans put it into the fire in the first place...

[Awesome_Gamer]

Unfortunely its like thsi RE+COD = sales

[arbitor365]

whatever, slant six. we all know you made a piece of shit. just because people bought your game, that doesnt mean they liked it.

I doubt most of the people buying this game even knew that slant six was behind it. if the buyers all knew that the people responsible for "SOCOM Confrontation" made this game, it probably would have sold 179 copies worldwide.

[busytoad]

The game fing blew,so glad i rented it b4 i bought it. i would not recomend this game to anyone.

[BI0RAPTOR]

So wish I had rented it instead of forking out 37 pounds for a game that is at best unbearable.
People may disagree thats fine,but trust me I had the game for a week and played it everyday trying to like it.
In the end I gave up lying to myself and saw the game for what it is.
If you are the small majority who enjoy this game then good for you I am glad as I so did want too.
But ask yourself are you really being honest with yourselves.

[Oschino1907]

Game isn't the best, no one is claiming it is but desite that I have been able to look past problems and still have A LOT of fun and so have almost every single person I have met or played with on it. Very much looking forward to the FREE expansion comming April 10th and patches to fix some inconvieneces.

$40 would be a perfect price point but prob won't see that till after expansion I would think, hell I regret not getting Special Edition now as previews had me worried and waiting for reviews which out of around 20 or so I only found 3 decent ones that were actually informative and helpful rather then emotional error ridden rants.

As someone else said look at Fall Out New Vegas which scored very well, I was way way way more frustrated with that, I got the Collectors Edition and was so hyped but could barely play it for months as the bugs and glitches were that bad and it sapped my will to put my head down and attempt to push forward.

[Baka-akaB]

and i dont mind people feeling that way . The ones i'd laugh at are some posters pretending the game is great AND that they'd even bother looking at it and defending it , if it didnt bear a popular brand name .

Those guys are fun to tease .

Also i dont agree that we should settle for "it's not that bad" from any kind of spin off from a massive franchise . It set a downward spiraling trend and a mixed signal to publishers .

But hey , if you have fun , you have fun .

[andron]

Hmm, what fans? RE fans or Slant Six fans?

I think the fact this game have the RE name and is a TPS is the main reason for it selling. Just look at Kane and Lynch or Army of Two, they sold enough to warrant sequels without a known license...

[Baka-akaB]

lol there are slant Six fans ?

[yokokoroma]

Slant being impressed or "satisfied" by the first week sales of this game, is laughable. Capcom's goal for this game is 2 million copies, aparently Slant Six has forgotten that. This game is not selling 2 million copies. I don't consider ORC a spinoff at all, Outbreak beats ORC any given day. The game had a great concept (playing from umbrella's perspective) but it was horribly executed.

Both Slant and Capcom realized this and instead of releasing the game on it's original announced release date, they pushed it back. Why? to add "Heroes" (Hunk, Leon, Ada, Clarie, basically all the RE 2 characters) Mode, in order to boost sales. The end result (or in this case the first week results) is not what Capcom was expecting. They may state their excited about the first week sales, but rest assure, within the walls of the Capcom Japan, their not happy.

[Baka-akaB]

true but with the beating (deservingly so) the game was getting from the medias and gamers opinion alike , it's safe to say they are breathing a bit and possibly pleasantly surprised by the sales .

[esemce]

Ill informed people bought the game because I had resident evil in the title not knowing that it was an utter POS.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

It's the fans. Trust me. I've seen five copies come into my store already. I played it while I tested a 360 the other day. It's absolute crap!

[IRetrouk]

I had to hunt for this game, nowhere was selling it or had sold out, its actually a decent game, I like it, reviews were way too harsh, all this talk about glitches and bugs yet I have not come across any, and every time I see a zombie, licker, hunter or Tyrant I smile a little, plus the crimson heads were a nice suprise, guns and character movement are good, graphics are nice, dnt really understand the negativity, it's not a proper resi, so what