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Halo 4 Perks: 'We're Not Copying Call Of Duty' - 343

NowGamer: Halo 4 franchise director Frank O'Connor clear on differences between the most popular shooters.

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What does Halo have to do with the PS3 and PC?
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badjournalism4475d ago

Whatever you have to say to feel good, Frankie.

Virus2014475d ago (Edited 4475d ago )

What did Halo ever copy from COD?

Halo did matchmaking before COD (Halo 2)
Halo had a online ranking system before COD (Halo 2)
Halo had DLC before COD (Halo 2)
Halo had a COD elite kind of service before COD (Bungie.net)
Halo always had a better single player than any COD game.

What a weak attempt at trolling.

You are only getting agrees from people who hate Halo.

slavish4475d ago

im not a halo fan but you are right. halo was the 1st big multiplayer game to change gaming online. if anything cod copied halo

Laika4475d ago

COD was once a good game. I remember when the first COD came out. I always thought it was much better than Halo. It felt like it took more skill rather than Halos "spray and pray" mechanic. Lanning on PC with friends and COD.....ah so fun. And saying Halo has a better single player than COD is just your opinion.... so ya. proves nothing

TitanUp4475d ago

Halo had a online ranking system before COD (Halo 2)

http://callofduty.wikia.com...
ranking system.

cod also had an expansion not dlc but at least extended gameplay.

Halo always had a better single player than any COD game.

that is your opinion

Virus2014475d ago

I'm not talking about COD for the PC. I'm talking about consoles. Halo 2 revolutionized online gaming on consoles and there's no denying that.

SilentNegotiator4475d ago

"What did Halo ever copy from COD?"

Perks.

Just like COD had regenerating health and limited amount of weapons to carry (2) because a certain other popular game did it.

Good for Halo for doing those things you listed, but that doesn't change that they're messing with the Halo formula to do the popular thing....the Call of Duty thing.

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gypsygib4475d ago (Edited 4475d ago )

I hope they copy good ideas, the reproduction/building off of good ideas into new work is called progress and improvement. COD4 had a lot of great gameplay ideas, which has resulted in improved FPS games. The problem is when people try and make the same game.

If people had to entirely reinvent the wheel every time they made something, we'd wouldn't have any of the technological/medical/etc. advancements.

Everything is built on what came before, if people didn't copy Id's idea with Doom, we wouldn't have any FPS games besides Doom.

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Dark3604475d ago

Whatever you have to say to feel good, Troll.

lol

Dante1124475d ago (Edited 4475d ago )

Yeah, I think they're taking some bits off a COD too. Doesn't matter to me though. As long as the game is good.

LX-General-Kaos4475d ago

I'm looking very much forward to the new details on Halo 4. From the looks of it 343 have taken care of business so far. Very happy for the return of Master Chief as the main character once again. Its been a good long time. I'm sure the perks will add a great amount of depth and strategy to the gameplay. As long as they are not over done like in a few other games. I can always trust Halo to deliver online and off. So I'm sure this game will be AAA quality.

It would be nice if the new world returns the series to the mysterious mood and feel of Halo CE.

I pray for the return of 4 player online co-op and fire fight as well.

Rated E For Everyone

Hufandpuf4475d ago

If they want it to be a competitive game, I say leave perks out.

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Why Microsoft Putting Black Ops 6 On Game Pass Is The Ultimate Test

By putting Black Ops 6 on Game Pass, Microsoft plans to gauge its growth, pricing, and monetization changes, at the cost of less game sales.

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rlow19h ago

If they have follow up games that are bangers, then this strategy will work. But if it’s Call of Duty followed another dead period then it won’t last.

crazyCoconuts6h ago

From MS financial perspective I think it may be the opposite.
A year of GamePass on PC is less than the price of two full price games. For all the people that would have bought COD for $70 but instead started subbing for GP, MS will get an extra $50/year which is good.
However, for each banger that MS puts out, that's lost potential revenue because the GP sub won't need to buy it.
So it only makes sense where the new GP customers would have otherwise not spent more money with MS... Which is the case if MS puts out low quality shovelware.

rlow14h ago

If you’re looking at the short term you are correct. But if Xbox can have multiple bangers then subscriptions should increase. Which is what they want, recurring revenue.

Sonic18816h ago

I don't see it working if Call of Duty makes less money and profits over time from gamepass 🤔

blackblades6h ago

I dont understand why have it on it when we all know it sells with the name alone. Seems stupid to lose so much sales and $ just to have it on game pass. They basically shooting themselves in the foot with a already injured foot from all the other times they shoot themselves in the foot.

CrashMania5h ago

@blackblades, that's my exact point, even on xbox where most software sells poorly CoD still sells millions, but the thing is, if you don't put it on GP you kinda shatter the whole idea they've build GP up to be, they've dug this hole themselves.

I think it might tick up subscribers a bit, but warzone is already free and gets millions of players regardless of GP. But where will those extra subs come from? Xbox sales are dropping like a rock, PC gamers are very firmly rooted in Steam and will just buy it there.

Tacoboto4h ago

@black

If they don't include it on Game Pass, they lose the claim of First-Party Day-One on Game Pass, and thus would begin the slippery slope of what's-ok-to-not-include and the devaluing of the service, and further sinking Microsoft/Xbox's already tarnished reputation.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place and this move buys them time to work out more future-math.

crazyCoconuts3h ago

I still expect a price increase in GP to compensate but who knows. With all the factors in play like COD points there are too many variables for someone on the outside to predict what will happen. I assume they have a forecast model where this all looks peachy.

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Garethvk8h ago

When the game does not hit 1 Billion in revenue in under two weeks they will wonder why and the next thing you know; Season Updates will no longer be free.

Noskypeno7h ago

Yup, the CEO needs a new yacht and private jet

Abear215h ago

Yeah I expect paid DLC and season pass in your face, now you are buying for a game you are renting

purple1017h ago

subscribers go up, execs celebrate win, get bonus, price goes up, subscribers go down,

execs dont care, got their bonus,

MrDead6h ago

If it works CEOs and shareholders get a payday and if it doesn't even more studios get closed by MS so CEOs and shareholders get a payday.

Elda5h ago

It will sell on PC & PS but as long as COD is for rent on Gamepass it will not sell well on the XB platform. Most folks such as myself that like COD just for the campaign would rather rent it for that month instead of paying $70 plus tax for the game.

IAMRealHooman5h ago

Your smart.
its 70 for base plus 10 to 20 for a season pass plus another 30 for there better season pass,

darthv725h ago

...now you are finally getting how to use GP. No commitments, just play what is offered. if you like it so much and want to keep a copy for yourself... you can buy it when you want to. I used to buy games based on if they looked appealing and have been burned many times on things. With this, I can try before I buy. And I have actually bought several games after having rented them in the service. It literally is like the old days of renting only you get the whole store instead of pay per rental.

Elda5h ago

I've been knowing how to use Gamepass. I sub the service yearly & I play games on the service that I don't have to pay the full price for such as Persona 3:Reload. I mostly play & pay for games on my PS5 but if a game lands on GP that I'm interested in playing & I don't have to buy a copy for the PS5 I'll definitely play it on Gamepass.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies11d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX11d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody11d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

rob-GP7d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic "They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo..."

lol, you mean:

NES, SNES
GameBoy, GameBoy Advanced, GameBoy Colour, GameBoy SP
DS, DSi, DSXL
3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL
Wii, Wii U
Switch, Switch OLED

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Cacabunga11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_11d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga11d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie9d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly11d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga11d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit11d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_11d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff218311d ago (Edited 11d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies11d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander197216d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv7215d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal15d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead15d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan15d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl15d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx14d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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