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Why You Shouldn’t be Upset if Fatal Frame II’s Remake Doesn’t Come Stateside

Adorkably's Gerald DeMattia writes:

"No one can say that it hasn’t been an extremely odd year for the Nintendo Wii. Xenoblade is finally coming stateside and XSEED stepped up to the plate to deliver The Last Story onto us. Now, Nintendo of Europe announces that the previously Japan only Fatal Frame II: The Crimson Butterfly remake will indeed get a Euro release.

While exciting at first, it’s hard to forget the cold shoulder Nintendo of America gave us when it came to bringing the fourth entry in the series stateside. This leads me to believe we won’t be joining the Amakura sisters on their second tour of All Gods Village. With that said, I’m not as crushed this time around.

I had to give it some thought because something about this “remake” is off-putting and I’m not talking about the resident ghouls."

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jc485734449d ago

You want us to be interested? bring out FF4, then we can talk.

LX-General-Kaos4449d ago

Its a shame that it won't come out in america. I am not surprised one bit judging by what type of games make it and which don't in the west. Our great developers are finding less reason to bring their hard work to the west. Hopefully all of this will change through the life cycle of the Nintendo Wii U.

Hopefully all real elite gamers worldwide join together to help Nintendo remain at the top of the gaming spectrum. Games Like Fatal Frame will have a higher chance to be released in all territories if the install base is a respectable size like the original Nintendo Wii.

Lucky for us all Nothing is impossible when dealing with the Nintendo. As they have proven time and time again that anything is possible through hard work. Nintendo developers have been working hard for decades to bring us all the greatest gaming experiences that money can buy.

Your love and support is appreciated. Long live Nintendo.

Rated E For Everyone

ThePsychoGamer4449d ago

First the development team (which luckily arn't own by Nintendo) douse want the Fatal Frame series, the who reason they sighed a deal with Nintendo was because the want the games to get better marketing.

The reason 4, and likely 2 did not come out in the west is because the weastern branches of Nintendo want to be seen geared to a younger demographic. A M rated game like Fatal Frame goes agaist that idea. The only thing tha t could change that is a big overhaul of these branches management.

Luckily Nintendo dousn't own the Fatal Frame IP, so as soon as the deal is over, Tecmo Koei can make a new deal with a publisher that both respects the wishes of the development team and the desires of gamers.

na-no-nai4449d ago

I don't think fatal frame going anywhere but nintendo. If I am correct, nintendo brought the fatal frame franchise from tecmo. I remember reading an article a few years back. During that time tecmo wasn't doing so well

ThePsychoGamer4449d ago (Edited 4449d ago )

@na-no-nai: No Nintendo have not bought the Fatal Frame franchise, So yes we will most likely see the series go to a different publisher. Who knows, maybe if we are lucky Tecmo Koei held on to the world publishing rights for FF2, so they themselves can release it in the west.

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na-no-nai4449d ago

If we are getting a fatal frame 3ds to America. what make you think we as not getting fatal frame 2 remake? If I remember correctly both Tecmo and Nintendo had an issue with ff4. Ff4 have lots of bugs and glitches. I played it on my wii with the translation patch. Nintendo wanted Tecmo to fixed the glitches and bugs but Tecmo did not want to do it for free. We just have to wait and see. Also Europe did not get ff4 either

Adorkably4449d ago

I definitely agree with you there, we have a way better chance of seeing Fatal Frame II make its way over to the US then we did with Fatal Frame IV. I was mostly just pointing out the reasons why I wouldn't be as heartbroken as I was with Fatal Frame IV if it didn't.

On a side note... would you recommend IV? I was thinking about picking it up soon.

na-no-nai4449d ago

Yes true. Which I hope it does make it here as well.

As for recommendations for ff4; I have to say yes. Its very good and freaky. I love it. Although I have not beat it yet. Not sure which ff is more scary at all. Almost as good as ff1 if not better.

Pozzle4449d ago

I love the irony of Nintendo refusing to release Fatal Frame 4 overseas due to a glitch, even though Skyward Sword had the exact same sort of game-breaking glitch. Not that I'm bad-mouthing either game. I just thought it was ironic...especially since Fatal Frame 4 is a VERY good horror title. Nintendo were crazy to not allow the game an international release. They've let shittier (and glitchier) games be released on their console.

na-no-nai4448d ago

Those shittier and glithier games are not from Nintendo themselves. Most of those games are from third party and Nintendo does not fund them. As for FF4; I'm thinking its not really about the glitches that prevent it more likely some kind of issue with Tecmo.

But who to say; no one really knows.

Pozzle4448d ago (Edited 4448d ago )

True, but Nintendo still has to approve the games that go onto the Wii. Publishers don't just buy a license and get to release whatever they want. It just seems a bit odd to me that Nintendo are ok with the abundance of crappy, glitchy, poor quality games that are released on the Wii and yet they're not ok with releasing a genuinely great game (with a solid track record) like Fatal Frame 4 because it apparently didn't live up to Nintendo's quality. I mean...wtf! If they didn't want to publish the game, why not just sell the rights back to Tecmo? Or sell them to another publisher? FF4 is hardly the worst game on the Wii. It didn't deserve that sort of treatment. Hell, I'd go as far to say it's one of the best non-Nintendo games on the console!

Like you said, there was probably some deeper issue behind it all. The whole thing just sounds so...strange.

Pozzle4449d ago

"Maybe what I’m trying to say here is that I was way more excited for a new entry in the Fatal Frames series of stories, rather than a “remake” with subtle changes at best"

I agree tbh. I'll definitely buy the FF2 remake if it comes out over here, but I'm faaaar more interested in a Fatal Frame 5 if one ever gets made. I just hope future FF games actually make it outside Japan this time!

Alos884449d ago

If they won't release this stateside, the odds aren't exactly great that they'll release a new entry in the series stateside either, especially since the fourth game never left Japan.

Pozzle4449d ago

I'm not sure if Nintendo own the rights to the entire series or not, but I remember a couple of years ago that Tecmo said they wanted FF5 to be released on PS3/360 to avoid any more drama from Nintendo.

Adorkably4448d ago

@pozzle I'm not entirly sure if Nintendo owns the publishing rights to the entire series either. They may own it for any games that appear on the Wii though. Then again I only believe that because any announcments regarding Fatal Frame IIs Remake have come out of Nintendos mouth rather than Tecmos or anyone elses for that matter.

stragomccloud4448d ago

It's sad too, because 4 sold more than twice any of the other internationally released Fatal Frame titles, accounting for a whopping 40% of the lifetime franchise sales. So.... what the heck Nintendo!

stragomccloud4448d ago

Just gotta' wait for another fan translation, like with Fatal Frame IV~ Since II already came out here though, shouldn't be too difficult to translate with the original game as a reference.

That said, while I agree Fatal Frame on Wii U would be completely full of win, his statements about the Wii being "last gen" is a little false, but while Wii is almost laughably behind hardwarewise compared to Xbox 360/PS3, it is at least 6 times more powerful than a PS2. So the graphical bump is more than noticeable... That said though..... Why the heck isn't this on the Wii U! The controller would be amaaaaaaazing for the Fatal Frame Franchise. Hopefully Wii U gets a remastered 1, 3, or better yet... a new entry in the franchise!!!!

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno15h ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10121d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref20d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde20d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197220d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville20d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218320d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos20d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai21d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref20d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan20d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00720d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197221d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197221d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref20d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde20d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197220d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197220d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier20d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto20d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218320d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto20d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman20d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts20d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts19d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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