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Friendly Rivalry vs. Elitism

Tribune writes: "There seems to be a growing trend that has become prevalent on forums all across the internet: the idea that the PC is the “master race” of consoles. This idea that one system can be better than all the others is something that causes much unnecessary strife and conflict that is deteriorating relations within the gaming community."

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Cinotix4589d ago

I usually go in always thinking friendly rivalry, really drives me to talk shit when I hear dudes in Call of Duty take the fucken game so serious.

Ziriux4589d ago

I personally don't play multiplayer games as much anymore, give me a good story, the only online aspect i enjoy is a co-op inclusion in singleplayer game.

Cinotix4589d ago

Why, get off your high horse and try a MP game once in a while.

gornak4589d ago

You got on your high horse to tell Ziriux to get off a high horse he wasn't on in the first place.

It's you, you're the one going show jumping.

Cinotix4589d ago

I'm sorry if i was but some people are not willing to even try to give a MP game a chance because it's a "main stream" thing and they want to not be part of it. I just think it's a little crazy.

buddymagoo4589d ago

Multiplayer can put me off gaming at times with people glitching/cheating/being incredibly good. That's why I prefer single player. If a game is too difficult I can lower the settings unlike multiplayer. There is not many games that balance the multiplayer element right, I think.

Ziriux4589d ago

!00% agree with you buddy. When people are extremely good or I see someone using a glitch it frustrates me knowing especially that the guy is showing off.

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masteroftheclaw4589d ago

Back in the day I'd be ready to say that PC was the most powerful gaming platform out there. I mean, it was getting polygonal and "3D" games before the consoles were able to handle it, but these days it is a much closer race.

In this current age I think consoles are pretty close to PC games and unfortunately a lot of PC gamers are now stuck with console ports! I think it's fine for someone to prefer a PC or 360 or PS3 but there's no reason to go shoving it in everyone else's face. Preference is just what each person chooses and as long as we enjoy the games who cares which is the "best" platform?

Ziriux4589d ago

I think so too, uncharted 3 sure as hell matches and good PC game.

masteroftheclaw4589d ago

Man, Uncharted 3 looks unbelievable. I'm surprised that these consoles still are able to surprise and impress us graphically after, what, 6 or 7 years? It reminds me of when Metal Gear Solid 3 came out on PS2 and it looked sooooo nice.

Ziriux4589d ago

Yea I had the same reaction towards Halo 2 on the Xbox I was blown away.

Somebody4589d ago (Edited 4589d ago )

"PC gamers are now stuck with console ports! "

That's the problem (well, part of it anyway).

Some of the PC gamers there have spent time and effort to build their dream machine and all they get are console ports that barely poke at their machine.

Anyone would have been angry to be treated like that.

potedude4589d ago

I have to say I feel like there is a bit of PC elitism these days. They always go on about graphics and how plebby we are with 5 year old hardware.

Personally I like using my console, throw the disc in and off we go, no worries about settings or compatibility or anything. Its all good.

And lol @ glorious PC gaming master race and console peasant...

Somebody4589d ago

One of my local gaming magazine had it the other way around :

PC game reviews goes under the "PC Tavern" section while the console reviews are under the "Console Keep". If my understanding medieval social structure is correct, I think the magazine held consoles higher than the PC. It was evident since the sections were used when the current consoles were starting to storm the gaming industry and there were less and less PC games being released. When I realized this, I was angered (I'm a PC gamer)at first then torn when I whether to continue buying the mag. It did helped me with buying a graphic card.

The magazine stopped using that naming system a few years back but by then I stopped subscribing. No point in buying a magazine that at some points doesn't have a single PC review (hardware or software).

Anyway, choose whatever poison you want. My brother just bought a Sony Erickson Play but I don't hate him for that. I helped a friend to buy a PSP once and another to buy a PS3 (he initially wanted a PC but I told him the differences between the two platforms, the final decision was his).

MeatAbstract4589d ago

I do own a gaming PC which I put together with a friend a few years ago but since moving, I rarely use the thing.

I like PC gaming, it was where I really started, using my brothers to play Doom and Duke Nukem and uh..Theme Hospital. But getting my first console and simplicity of it, put a game in and you're off. If there's a problem with the PC when installing a game, it can be a number of issues which can be frustrating to solve, and I'm not the most tech savvy of people.

But hey, the article is right, to each his own really. You want to play on PC or console, thats your choice, we're all game lovers here.

Ziriux4589d ago

I just personally think that the consoles are more user friendly and that's one of the reasons of success.

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15 Great Games Where Every Minute of the Experience Feels Earned

GB: "We take a look at 15 amazing games that had the perfect length."

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coolbeans19h ago

Pretty good list. Botany Manor would be the newest addition that encapsulates that title.

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Anyone else not blown away with graphics these days? Me neither

Talal writes: "I'm talking about having that rush of excitement - that feeling you get when you know you've just made a memory for a lifetime."

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OptimusDK3d ago

There are different games. Some have gamplay at it highest priority, some have the story, some have the replay value and choices... There are a lot of different game experiences.

It is laughable that just now graphics does not have anything to do with that experiene. We have had many games of that type over time. This is just the one that have come closest to feel like playing an actual movie. Just look the the Digital foundry walkthrough it is a masterpiece in that perspective and hence wrth trying. But yes do not do it for the gameplay - but that was never the goal of this experience.

GamerRN3d ago

It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!

Lightning773d ago

Pretty much my thoughts. They were technical marvel's on PS and still are. The moment Xbox puts out a graphically intense game is doesn't matter suddenly.

4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. Glad to finally see it in its glory.

fr0sty3d ago

FFS, gaming journalism has really gone downhill. At least hire people with a basic grasp of grammar... "Me neither" means the exact opposite of what the "author" is trying to say. That's like saying "I could care less"... lol.

S2Killinit3d ago

Maybe because the gameplay being dull allowed it to have the amazing graphics and people are not as impressed by graphics alone anymore? I mean there is a lot of sites saying the story and the gameplay are lackluster. So what are we supposed to enjoy then? Cgi graphics are beautiful but since they arent interactive, they dont impress me as much as they used to. Thats an extreme example, but you get my drift.

Terry_B3d ago

When Playstation (Sony) does it..its usually a great game and not a cinematic experience..or at least something new at the time..like Until Dawn back in 2015.

1Victor3d ago

@gamer:” It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!”

The game looks as good as any other PlayStation game in my eyes why can’t you and the other hardcore Xbox be happy about it and drag PlayStation into every conversation and force PlayStation hardcore to look into the game and find flaw that most games have in one way or another.
@light: “ 4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. ”
Yes at that time it was only possible on PlayStation SSD how ignorant of you to think that after 4 years the technology wouldn’t evolved and move to a industry standard 🤦🏿I wish your mentality wasn’t so naive and narrow to post stuff like that 😩 in a year or 2 a new game will come out that might look better, it’s the nature of the industry.

Now that the distraction is gone I feel that is a good thing that the graphics in games are starting to hit the rooftop and hopefully the developers will put more thoughts into story and gameplay mechanics than just the next shiny oily skin of old.

Reaper22_3d ago

So true. Not surprised by all the negativity. It's a really good game and looks better than any game I've ever seen. GOTY nominee for sure. Like I said before, sony screwed up big time by not purchasing Ninja Theory.

Asplundh3d ago

Pretty much. It's like how the Switch and Steam controller using haptic feedback in their controllers wasn't a big deal but then Sony did it and it was then a "game changer".

fr0sty3d ago

The game runs at as low as 21fps... That isn't much to brag about no matter how good it looks.

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MajorLazer3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

We've had graphical gamechangers before, such as Crysis but those games still had gameplay to compliment it. Hellblade pretty much has none, and only achieved such graphics through being incredibly linear and having very small, closed off environments where very little is happening.

Vx_3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

GFX does not mean anything if the game is boring. It is simple like that and these major companies need to understand this simple concept.

Games are like your lady, she may be beautiful to look at for a while but then it gets boring if her character isn't interesting and fun to be with.

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Kneetos3d ago

Mario kart 8 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sonic18813d ago

Horizon forbidden West has great graphics and great gameplay

GamerRN3d ago

Yeah but graphics don't matter, remember?

anast3d ago

@RN

I've been pretty consistent in saying that we need both.

GamerRN1d 19h ago

So until dawn, too human, or whatever those series of games were... Graphic masterpieces it garbage with no gameplay?

VincentVanBro3d ago

I agree and I actually think Forbidden West looks better than Hellblade 2. I easily prefer looking at it at least.

Sonic18813d ago

It does look better in my opinion as well. I don't know why it looks better but there's something about the Decima engine or that guerrilla games is using tricks that we don't know of

Abear212d ago

Can you fly a mount under water in Hellblade 2? I think not! One of the best moments this Gen

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill12d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow112d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill12d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb12d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

HvNzSoul3d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnessacery Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games.

HvNzSoul3d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnecessary Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games, they just weren't 100% focused on stealth with Conviction and they remedied that in Blacklist. The only thing they have released recently that I was disappointed with was Watch Dogs Legion, and Skull & Bones. Everyone seems to be salty about the misleading trailer for the original Watch Dogs and The Division. Which are also, both good games, and actually Watch Dogs seems like it was ahead of its time even with all the trailer drama (having gone back and played recently, can say the game didnt deserve all the flak). Yeah the misleading E3 trailer that had better graphics than release is understandable to a very small degree, when most Teaser Trailers, or Game Demo's only have that portion of the game developed so they use the highest quality assets of w/e they have being showed, or what they are showing was made purely for the showing, allowing for extra polish . As to the gripes about minor game design changes, or cut features upon a games release just goes to show how unknowledgeable most gamers are in terms of how game development works or to even understand what what the hell a WIP, let alone titles still in early development.

Good games from Ubi since 2014 (Year that SC Blacklist Released) include:

Watch Dogs 1 & 2
The Division 1 & 2 (Although I had a hard time getting into The Division 2 at first)
R6 Siege
Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint
Immortals Fenyx Rising
AC Origins, Odyssey, MIrage (Haven't finished Valhalla games too damn long)
Far Cry Primal, and 5 (6 also has a length issue)
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora
Prince Of Persia The Lost Crown

Haven't played a couple of titles those being For Honor (played at launch but didn't honestly give it an actual go), The Crew, R6 Extraction and at the time of writing this xDefiant.

Even if you absolutely hated any of the above titles, they aren't inherently bad games, they're just good, but not always top quality either.

I say give Ubi credit where credit is due, they at least fix games post launch if they start out rough, Breakpoint is an excellent example this and is such an enjoyable experience now compared to it's launch.