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What's next for Sony and Microsoft?

aGamingSite writes: 'At 2011's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), Nintendo announced their next console, the Wii U, which will be the follow up to the wildly successful Wii. So, what are Microsoft and Sony going to do in response? Will the reveal of the Wii U have hastened their plans for launch, or given them more breathing space?'

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Tanir4595d ago

something that is actually next gen unlike the wii-u which is 5 years too late in the current gen. wtf is going to happen to it when ps4 and 720 come out?

fluffydelusions4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

Well it doesn't look like Wii-U will release as scheduled summer 2012 since it was just confirmed that there will be no new info until next e3 so maybe Nintendo delayed until Sony/MS announce there new console. Who knows really Sony/MS may not even announce a new console next e3.

iamnsuperman4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

What Microsoft needs to do is get some studios together and some new ips (that are not just for the kinect). It what Sony did after Microsoft bought a lot of third party exclusives to make them either non exclusives/have a small exclusivity window. Also not to have a hardware problem. If another one appears it could damage their next console standing (looking to the future).

Sony need to release something at a lesser price the PS3 was. Also they need to improve some features like the browser (software). People say the PSN isn't great but I think it is ok. Cross game chat (even though I wouldn't use it a lot seem to crave it). Also keep the base PSN free.

gypsygib4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

I agree with MS needing to stop waisting the games division budget on trying to convince people that Kinect can also satisfy core gamers. Satisfy core gamers by making core games instead.

As a PS360 owner I also agree that Sony needs to improve PSN and add also, their general OS.

PSN is fine, it's free and works well but it doesn't work quite as well as Live in terms of chatting and parties. Really though, all PS3 needs is private/consistent chat so the mikes don't cut out everytime you change games or during loading and it would be just as good as Live for playing MP games - in terms of lag and connecting it already is.

My real problem with PS3 is that everything in the OS requires so many steps. I sometimes buy multiplats on 360 just for the reason that when an achievement unlocks I can press one button to see what it is, on PS3 it's like 6 steps to see the trophy and get back to the game.

Same with messages, on 360 I press the guide button and there it is, on PS3 is takes like 4 steps to get back to game and everything takes longer to load.

I don't know if Sony is waiting till next gen to overhaul the Playstation OS so they can charge for it or if they're just oblivious to it being a minor pain in the a$$ to do simple things, but it's very inefficient compared to 360s OS.

xPhearR3dx4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

People who say they would never use X Game Chat, clearly never experienced it. If you're playing a game like Dark Souls, why wouldn't you want to be able to talk to your friends and discuss strategic moves or help each other out. It's easy to say you'll never use something that you don't have access to.

EDIT: So basically, you don't have any friends? Make some over PSN. I have about 20 real life friends on mine, the other 80 are all people I play games with here and there that I've never met in my life.

iamnsuperman4595d ago

Because I do not talk to my friends about that. Also I tend to speak to my friends in person. There are people out there who do not talk tactics with there friends. A lot of my friends really do not play games. I have one who plays as much as me. The rest only play dancing games on my PS3/ never play. I can see it being quite useful but for me I do not see the need.

maniacmayhem4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

cross game/party chat is very useful. there's been many times when i'm playing a different game then my friend(s) and we link up to discuss plans for friday/saturday night.

And there has been times especially for dark souls when i hit up my friends and asked how they got thru a problem.

X game chat is definitely a great feature.

DaTruth4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

You're so lucky; you have a friend who plays videogames as much as you! 75% of friends on my friends list are really just people I met in a game who never had another game in common with me again!

In other words, I agree! The only reason why I would want xross game chat is so I don't have to hear other people discussing their lives and other people discussing their lives in Chinese while I'm playing online!

fluffydelusions4595d ago

Problem is MS invested so much into Kinect they will try to get everything they can out of it sadly.

TOO PAWNED4595d ago

Good stuff. Unlike most of other articles "Why I think PS4 will destroy Xbox 720" and other ta.d titles that make you roll your eyes without reading them.

Raven_Nomad4595d ago

Well I think we'll see more on the next Xbox console at E3 next year. Wouldn't be surprised in the least if it launched Holiday season next year.

fluffydelusions4595d ago

Why would they launch a new xbox when they are launching halo 4 for 360 holiday 2012? That wouldn't make much sense.

Pikajew4595d ago

They can do what Nintendo did with Zelda TP and release it on both consoles.

tickticktick4595d ago

LoL fluffydelusions a 360 and 720 launch of Halo 4?

Jappy-k74595d ago

Sony and Microsoft collaborate and make one next-gen console!

fluffydelusions4595d ago

That wouldn't work and we all know that :)

IAmCornHolio4595d ago

Regardless, you will see even fewer exclusvies next gen than you did this gen...

Sony with year after year losses simply cant afford to keep selling AAA games as loss leaders. Microsoft seems to be exiting the exclusvies business, and concentrating on everything else that makes the xbox great.

DaTruth4595d ago (Edited 4595d ago )

"Microsoft seems to be exiting the exclusvies business, and concentrating on everything else that makes the xbox great."

You mean the stuff that also makes every other platform great?(multiplats) Selling something others give away for free? I think they call that, not differentiating yourself from your competition!

Sony bought three developers in the last 2 years. Seems they have no intention of continuing with exclusives!/s

cl19834595d ago

Only because closed minded people wouldn't let it.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies4d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX4d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody4d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

rob-GP8h ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic "They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo..."

lol, you mean:

NES, SNES
GameBoy, GameBoy Advanced, GameBoy Colour, GameBoy SP
DS, DSi, DSXL
3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL
Wii, Wii U
Switch, Switch OLED

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Cacabunga4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_4d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga4d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly4d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga4d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit4d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_4d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21834d ago (Edited 4d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies4d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai5d ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19725d ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19725d ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel6d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz5d ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay5d ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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Nintendo Has Acquired Shiver Entertainment From Embracer Group

Nintendo Has Acquired Shiver Entertainment From Embracer Group

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Profchaos9d ago

Great news it shows that Nintendo intends to continue developing ports of AAA games to its next gen platform

H98d ago

Buying studios from embracer now is a great deal, they must be dirt cheap at this point, Nintendo is a opportunist, they wait until someone fall so they get their best deal

OtterX8d ago

That is some serious brain gymnastics you have going on there. 🤔

H98d ago

I didn't do any gymnastics I can assure you, honestly I don't know why you think that, not hating I seriously don't see why you think that

ZeekQuattro8d ago

Yeah I don't know where that came from. It's rare for Nintendo to flat out aquire studios. Guess they were trying to be edgy but why flex on this studio. 🤣

Kneetos7d ago

At least they are safer from layoffs with Nintendo then any other company

banger888d ago

I hope someone buys Piranha Bytes, their future isn't looking good right now. I love their RPGs, they're janky as f***, but they have heart and soul.

Relientk778d ago

Nintendo saw the Mortal Kombat 1 Switch port and were like, "Yeah, these guys are worth acquiring."

You can't make this crap up lol

Profchaos8d ago

Mortal Kombat 1 was never going to port well I'm sure they told wb it wasn't going to work but wb wants that sweet sweet 140 million install base

In the end wb approved the project cleared the milestones and allowed the product to release

SonOfOsiris8d ago

Yeah this guys ported MK11 which is great, Hogwarts Legacy which is great, and MK1 is now ok, play it every day