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What's next for Sony and Microsoft?

aGamingSite writes: 'At 2011's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), Nintendo announced their next console, the Wii U, which will be the follow up to the wildly successful Wii. So, what are Microsoft and Sony going to do in response? Will the reveal of the Wii U have hastened their plans for launch, or given them more breathing space?'

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Tanir4579d ago

something that is actually next gen unlike the wii-u which is 5 years too late in the current gen. wtf is going to happen to it when ps4 and 720 come out?

fluffydelusions4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

Well it doesn't look like Wii-U will release as scheduled summer 2012 since it was just confirmed that there will be no new info until next e3 so maybe Nintendo delayed until Sony/MS announce there new console. Who knows really Sony/MS may not even announce a new console next e3.

iamnsuperman4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

What Microsoft needs to do is get some studios together and some new ips (that are not just for the kinect). It what Sony did after Microsoft bought a lot of third party exclusives to make them either non exclusives/have a small exclusivity window. Also not to have a hardware problem. If another one appears it could damage their next console standing (looking to the future).

Sony need to release something at a lesser price the PS3 was. Also they need to improve some features like the browser (software). People say the PSN isn't great but I think it is ok. Cross game chat (even though I wouldn't use it a lot seem to crave it). Also keep the base PSN free.

gypsygib4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

I agree with MS needing to stop waisting the games division budget on trying to convince people that Kinect can also satisfy core gamers. Satisfy core gamers by making core games instead.

As a PS360 owner I also agree that Sony needs to improve PSN and add also, their general OS.

PSN is fine, it's free and works well but it doesn't work quite as well as Live in terms of chatting and parties. Really though, all PS3 needs is private/consistent chat so the mikes don't cut out everytime you change games or during loading and it would be just as good as Live for playing MP games - in terms of lag and connecting it already is.

My real problem with PS3 is that everything in the OS requires so many steps. I sometimes buy multiplats on 360 just for the reason that when an achievement unlocks I can press one button to see what it is, on PS3 it's like 6 steps to see the trophy and get back to the game.

Same with messages, on 360 I press the guide button and there it is, on PS3 is takes like 4 steps to get back to game and everything takes longer to load.

I don't know if Sony is waiting till next gen to overhaul the Playstation OS so they can charge for it or if they're just oblivious to it being a minor pain in the a$$ to do simple things, but it's very inefficient compared to 360s OS.

xPhearR3dx4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

People who say they would never use X Game Chat, clearly never experienced it. If you're playing a game like Dark Souls, why wouldn't you want to be able to talk to your friends and discuss strategic moves or help each other out. It's easy to say you'll never use something that you don't have access to.

EDIT: So basically, you don't have any friends? Make some over PSN. I have about 20 real life friends on mine, the other 80 are all people I play games with here and there that I've never met in my life.

iamnsuperman4579d ago

Because I do not talk to my friends about that. Also I tend to speak to my friends in person. There are people out there who do not talk tactics with there friends. A lot of my friends really do not play games. I have one who plays as much as me. The rest only play dancing games on my PS3/ never play. I can see it being quite useful but for me I do not see the need.

maniacmayhem4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

cross game/party chat is very useful. there's been many times when i'm playing a different game then my friend(s) and we link up to discuss plans for friday/saturday night.

And there has been times especially for dark souls when i hit up my friends and asked how they got thru a problem.

X game chat is definitely a great feature.

DaTruth4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

You're so lucky; you have a friend who plays videogames as much as you! 75% of friends on my friends list are really just people I met in a game who never had another game in common with me again!

In other words, I agree! The only reason why I would want xross game chat is so I don't have to hear other people discussing their lives and other people discussing their lives in Chinese while I'm playing online!

fluffydelusions4579d ago

Problem is MS invested so much into Kinect they will try to get everything they can out of it sadly.

TOO PAWNED4579d ago

Good stuff. Unlike most of other articles "Why I think PS4 will destroy Xbox 720" and other ta.d titles that make you roll your eyes without reading them.

Raven_Nomad4579d ago

Well I think we'll see more on the next Xbox console at E3 next year. Wouldn't be surprised in the least if it launched Holiday season next year.

fluffydelusions4579d ago

Why would they launch a new xbox when they are launching halo 4 for 360 holiday 2012? That wouldn't make much sense.

Pikajew4579d ago

They can do what Nintendo did with Zelda TP and release it on both consoles.

tickticktick4579d ago

LoL fluffydelusions a 360 and 720 launch of Halo 4?

Jappy-k74579d ago

Sony and Microsoft collaborate and make one next-gen console!

fluffydelusions4579d ago

That wouldn't work and we all know that :)

IAmCornHolio4579d ago

Regardless, you will see even fewer exclusvies next gen than you did this gen...

Sony with year after year losses simply cant afford to keep selling AAA games as loss leaders. Microsoft seems to be exiting the exclusvies business, and concentrating on everything else that makes the xbox great.

DaTruth4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

"Microsoft seems to be exiting the exclusvies business, and concentrating on everything else that makes the xbox great."

You mean the stuff that also makes every other platform great?(multiplats) Selling something others give away for free? I think they call that, not differentiating yourself from your competition!

Sony bought three developers in the last 2 years. Seems they have no intention of continuing with exclusives!/s

cl19834579d ago

Only because closed minded people wouldn't let it.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk774h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 19h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 11h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 10h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 9h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC23h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 13h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC23h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 8h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 4h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 4h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 17h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 11h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 18h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 8h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 11h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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