Doom 4: 30 fps in singleplayer, 60 fps in multiplayer

John Carmack revealed, that the singleplayer mode of Doom 4 runs at 30 fps. The multiplayer mode runs at 60 fps.

[gw4k]

I have been playing through the original Doom on the PC. Love it! Amazing game.
Just finished Doom and working on Doom 2. Just amazing!

Can't wait for 4!

[Ranshak]

Just purchased Doom 3 on PC for the new mod thats been released few weeks back. Gonna be replaying doom 3 ;-)

Bring on Doom 4!!

[RedDead]

Which mod is that? I got Doom 3 again a few weeks just for the sake of it

[reynod]

"Doom 4: 30 fps in singleplayer, 60 fps in multiplayer"

Only on console, PC version will be a solid 60fps+ most likely even on mid range hardware.

[Johandevries]

Found this German article with a mod: http://www.pcgames.de/Doom-...

[SilentNegotiator]

"“In the Doom 4 project, we decided Doom 4 Multiplayer will run at 60 frames per second, while the single player is 30 frames per second, so you can have twice as many demons coming at you,” id’s lead engineer John Carmack told Gamasutra"

It's hypothetical. He wants the single player to be so hectic, that it runs at about 30fps, and the MP to be a smooth 60fps, since much less would be happening.

We'll see if that actually happens.

[DatNJDom81]

Well it won't be as empty as rage. That's a good thing. So while rage will look marvelous running on consoles at 60 fps, it wont have as much going on on screen, as I've been saying all along. I just hope Doom 4 is scary as hell and looks pretty. Lord knows that we need more horror this gen.

[fr0sty]

That was one of my biggest gripes about Doom 3, it lost that "all hell has broken loose" feel that the previous 2 games had. You didn't walk out into massive courtyards decorated with splattered human remains and hanging corpses and get ambushed by 60 demons who start spawning out of every corner, only to have a cyberdemon surprise the hell out of you when you thought you were safe. It was far too confined to being a corridor shooter, picking off a few enemies at a time here and there. Glad to see that issue being addressed.

[Soldierone]

Frosty couldn't agree with you more. Even Quake did that so well in the early game. Its some of my fondest memories walking into those areas. One of them in Quake 2 where you walk into the test chambers and see soldiers dying and being worked on etc....

Doom 3 was a killer game, but it didn't have that. I want the big monsters back, the levels where you running around hoping the guy doesn't pop out on you, and not so much of the "it takes a crap ton of bullets to take a guy down and thats why its scary" motive. I think if you combine the horror aspects of the confined spaces in Doom 3 in certain levels, but also have the mayhem and awesomeness of Doom 1 and 2 you will have easily one of the best games ever made....again.

[news4geeks]

yeah 1 and 2 are awesome but Doom3 is a bore-fest. Have my doubts for Doom4.

[ape007]

i love all DOOM games, doom 1, 2, the amazing, underrated DOOM 64 and the amazing DOOM 3 on xbox 1

I cannot wait for doom 4

classic AAA level design :)

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Me too. I got doom 1, 2, and 3 on PC. And also got Doom 64 and doom 1 and 2 again on 360 arcade.

I loved doom and I will have a new Pc by the time doom 4 comes out.

[walken7]

Awesome, I forgot about Doom 64, that was pretty cool.

[Kos-Mos]

This is a perfect example of a fanboy commenting.

[JellyJelly]

Didn't even know it was officially announced.

[Gazondaily]

Same here! Where did this come from?

One thing's for sure- if this is true and Doom 4 is running at 30fps- the visual fidelity of this game must be amazing! I am making assumptions of course.

[AAWELLS09]

Yeah same thing i was thinking it must look amazing i just cant wait to see it running

[theonlylolking]

Just because it is 30fps does not make it look visually good. They might be doing something that is huge that is not graphic intensive but physics intensive.

RAGE is 60fps and it is not visually good on consoles so why does everyone think this one will be visually good just because it is in 30fps?

[damnyouretall]

i play so many 30fps games, it just doesnt matter. this game better be ready next year. more enemies on screen? man thats old school doom right there. i need some footage to tease me or somethin

[Cpt_kitten]

they said when they were starting rage they were going to do doom 4 after rage, shouldn't be that big of a surprise

i wanna know if there will be another quake

[theEx1Le]

It was announced over 2 years ago

[Gazondaily]

"There is a chance that we have the Blu-ray in the PS3 version equipped with more data than DVDs for Xbox 360"

[Fishy Fingers]

Opposite to Rage. Expect Doom SP to look pretty special then.

[lastdual]

That's what I was thinking. If even Carmack is willing to cap the single player off at 30 fps, it must be pushing some pretty mind blowing visuals.

[raztad]

I actually dont expect it to look (on consoles) any more impressive than UC3 or any other currently available good looking game. Doom 4 will (probably) sport a 30fps framerate in order to introduce some form realtime (likely volumetric) lighting, and not the prebaked stuff in RAGE. I believe this considering the horror survival nature of the past installation.

[StifflerK]

It'd be nice if they could release a Doom Collection - which'd include HD versions of Doom 1, 2 and 3 plus all the mission packs ( final doom etc.)

[bumnut]

Doom wouldn't be the same without the 2d enemies :)

[ape007]

HD 2-D enemies?

[gameman]

i love doom i have fished all of the games and my fav is the third installment the game look unforgettable at all doom 3 is still one of the best looking games of all time it's been more than 7 years and yet the game is still fresh waiting for this masterpiece so Carmack work your A$$ of and finished we don't want to stay six years to get a game like rage (which i will get it day one )

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

30 in sp and 60 in mp?...how the heck does that work? Isn't it usually flipped?

[BrianG]

I'm not sure, haven't seen many games that have different frames per second for single player and multiplayer.

But I remember reading that the 30fps will allow for more enemies to be on screen, or attacking, at a time in Doom 4. It is also going to allow more room for better graphics, post processing effects, AI complexity, etc...

[Plagasx]

He is obviously talking about the console versions when he says that, right???

[Grip]

PC have no limit FPS u can make it 120FPS if u want to.everyone knows that.

[fr0sty]

Not if the dev caps the frame rate... I hope that isn't the plan.

[reynod]

Frame rates can be uncapped via hacks. Has been done in some games in the past, modding community always finds a way.

[kramun]

They won't cap the framerate to 30fps on the pc version frosty.

[Rhezin]

OMG I love this series! I cannot wait!

[Varsarus]

dumbed down graphics in mp?, charming...

[MasterD919]

I think he should know by now what works best.

[josephayal]

Only on PS3

[ape007]

hhhhhhhh

[SteveSmith]

30 fps sucks big time.

[death2smoochie]

So I assume you don't console game at all then with that comment?

[3GenGames]

You're eyes see about 25FPS. You must consider 60 vs 30 frames per second a deal breaker with your superhuman vision.

[kramun]

That's a load of crap 3gen, the human eye can see far beyond 25fps.

[maxmill]

30 fps is cinematic

60fps for mp for chaos

Not that hard to understand people

[GamerPS360]

I wanted to play doom 3 but I lost play disc :(

[Ingram]

"30 fps in singleplayer, 60 fps in multiplayer" such a light netcode there then, also, from this I guess we will be facing huge ass demons in SP

[poopturd_mcgee]

that actually sounds like a great idea, all you can expect from id

[Hazmat13]

that sounds kinda stupid. i mean singleplayer above all is should be better. it seems the only people that understand is ND. great story > multiplayer fact

[Muitnorts]

Huh? What difference does that make. If anything the 30fps decision means they're pushing the SP hard.
Every Uncharted game runs at 30fps and I think you'll agree it doesn't harm the experience at all.

[Hazmat13]

you make a vaild point my good sir. Come, join me in a game of drinking-till-we-die!

[ChrisGTR1]

doom 4 wtf!? dude, doom 3 was the most overhyped piece of shit ive ever played. im not gonna be tricked again by good graphics.

[bozebo]

this ^

Crysis syndrome.

[ape007]

DOOM 3 was on of the best games I've ever played

awesome enemies, level design and an unbelievable sense of immersion/ambient sound

[maniacmayhem]

Was not impressed with Doom 3. Boring, repetitive and pop up out of no where enemies just didn't hold my attention. But i will look forward to seeing what part 4 has in store.

[OpenGL]

I thought John Carmack said this would be the case back when he first announced Doom 4. He said that Doom 4 will be considerably better looking graphically than Rage but will have a lower frame rate as a result.

[Snowii]

john is a fuckying dumbass

there i said it!

who the hell could possibly think the xbox 360 is the best console this gen?

[3GenGames]

The one who like standards and the fact that programming the 360 is 99% like programming a PC, He liked it for that. Getting more power out of your system doesn't mean much to developers if you have to rewrite it in a wonky way to make it work the same, without even advantages until your REALLY do a special PS3 port.

[Snowii]

im not a ps3 fanboy

im just saying

the xbox has alot of flaws

and choosing it because its easy to program is pretty dumb if you ask me

[Substance101]

"and choosing it because its easy to program is pretty dumb if you ask me "

Dude you do realise its retarded on Sonys part not to provide hardware thats easy to code for. Tell me what objective were they trying to achieve by not listening to the developers or not providing them good development tools?

Why would you on purpose make it hard to code for devs? its only going to end up limiting the potential of your own hardware.

Then we had retarded comments coming out of Kaz hirai how its good to be hard to program for.

What really happened is Sony wanted to implement 2 cells on the ps3, but since they saw that they would never be able to compete with PC left overs that the Xbox 360 was getting they had to run over to Nvidia for help. It just shows Sony had bad planning on what they wanted to do from the get go. They were actually deluded enough to believe that their Lolcell tech would be able to compete with the GPUs AMD and Nvidia were designing, once they saw Cell wont be able to hold a candle to this tech they asked Nvidia for help, i would say it was a rushed job which is why PS3 is hard to code for and development tools are so poor.

[Muitnorts]

Yeah I hear ya, most rocket scientists are idiots... sigh.

[jbiz330]

I think I'll go with the opinion of John Carmack instead of Snowii.. sorry guy, just sayin.

[J86blum]

Give me 60fps on single player and drop the multiplayer.

[ape007]

30 fps makes it more concentrated SP experience, i understand what u sayin but they want sp to SOOO DENSE

and for the most part , i don't really care about doom mp

[TitanUp]

doom 3 was my favorite one i just don't like the original doom and doom 2.

[maxmill]

How did i get 5 disagree's

im sure they can do 60fps if they want to in sp

[OpenGL]

Sure they can, if they reduce the graphical quality on consoles.

[Jdub895O]

i disagree.

[bozebo]

60fps = worse graphics, less enemies etc.

I think that is the point here...

[ForROME]

BRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING IT!!!

[GTRrocker]

I remember Doom. I liked it back in the day, but there was really no story that interested me at all.

[Platinum_k]

Why NOT make it BOTH Campaign and Multi-player 60fps? Then I'de really consider buying it.

Not everyone enjoys playing ONLINE...

[Ranshak]

They are going to be 60fps plus on PC. Unless you game on console.

@below

30fps is what they have to force upon you for most of the games, you dont really have a choice on those terms, so are you going to stop buying 95% of games on console?

Looks like a very limited choice to me.

[Platinum_k]

Console gamer... it's a choice.

[TBONEJF]

I Can't Wait to PLAY MY FAVORITE FPS GAME OF ALL TIME. used to play hours on it as a kid back then. should I get PC version or console version need opinion here guys.

[zero_cool]

Doom 64 was an excellent game & i hope these weapons make it in doom 4....

http://images.wikia.com/doo...

http://images.wikia.com/doo...

http://images.wikia.com/doo...

[PirosThe4th]

69th comment... so that means multiplayer gfx wont be as good

[denero1]

do i have to play doom 1 and 2 to understand 3 :\ the graphics are so :(

[ChickeyCantor]

hahah if you want slightly better graphics check my comment below.

[MasterCornholio]

I knew there were a ton of rumors. But when was doom 4 oficially announced?

[ChickeyCantor]

if you have the doom wads.
You can mod them with Jdoom

http://www.google.nl/search...

O and there is 16 player co-up and deathmatch as well.
Just don't play on nightmare online, that sh/t is unbalanced as hell itself.

[denero1]

thanks man :)

[matey]

all these geeks carmack is a plum i hate him this game might not fit on a ps3 bluray then do ur job and compress the dam thing if ur such a good developer then how come u cant work under contraints i hope he stays away from 3ds/wiiu as i think he would get shown up by Retro and all Nintendo devs remember they havnt had there chance to show what they can do yet with powerful hardware and goin off the Zelda tech demo they are more talented then Carmack and co who cares carmack we couldnt do this we couldnt do that fuck off