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Bethesda’s Sense of Good Public Relations is Scrolled

Koku writes: "If Bethesda were really successful in this case, who is to say that they could not then sue virtually any other producer of fantasy related games that use the word “scroll” to any extent without Bethesda’s permission? What about books, or movies?"

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ThatGuyInTheHat4667d ago

That's so stupid. Bethesda doesn't own the word "scrolls". Nobody does. If that were the case, they would be suing Webster's Dictionary too...which would also be stupid.

Cinotix4667d ago

Don't you know it's a new way of bringing more profit to a publisher. Lawsuits are hot today.

ThatGuyInTheHat4667d ago

Regardless, profiting off of other people's pain is just as bad as the 3rd Reich if not worse.

Dramscus4667d ago

If all their after is profits I'll show em what for.

When Skyrim comes out I'm totally going to buy it...

USED! (or possibly when it falls to a price of $20 and then I'll get it used.)

Wonder what those greedy guts will think of that.

For the record I generally do not support the sale of used games as it hurts developers.

ChrisW4666d ago

If I wasn't so damn anxious to get the next Elder Scrolls, I'd propose a boycott!

Ziriux4667d ago

Yea it is a sad state, esepcially with our economy and the tightness of money.

beastgamer4666d ago

If I make paper company called Paper Scrolls will I get slap with a lawsuit?

Ziriux4667d ago

It's a dictionary word for fuck sake, come on, this is crap.

-LUKE_SKYWALKER-4666d ago (Edited 4666d ago )

Yeah but you have to understand where Bethesda is coming from to some degree.

What if MS was to make a game called Uncharted Temples and release it around the same time as Uncharted 3 - this game would automatically ride the marketing train from Sony because the name Uncharted is in it.

Yeah we hardcore gamers know which one is the real Uncharted but soccer moms and casuals dont which means that they will just pick up a game called Uncharted.

Also do you think Sony would just let MS use the word Uncharted to make a game Or MS would let Sony use the word Halo for a PS3 game - these names are all in the dictionary but I bet that they both own those names.

ChrisW4666d ago

I'm only disagreeing because, from what I understand, Scrolls will only be Internet based and thus soccer moms won't have the opportunity to convey their retardedness.

gameseveryday4667d ago

Rage, Skyrim come on Bethesda, do you really need more money this holiday season.

Ziriux4667d ago

I think for the most part they think that the person using the name will profit and sell more copies but they don't know it all falls in the hands of quality of the game.

Singu1arity4667d ago

I'm hoping that this is a decision that was made by someone in the ZeniMax (Bethesda parent) corporate hierarchy who doesn't know the details and doesn't care to know, and just saw the word "scrolls" before hitting the lawsuit button.

If there's really developers who are this tone-deaf to the playerbase, then my faith in the industry's down a few notches.

limewax4666d ago

You sir are correct in your hopes, it is indeed Zenimax, Bethesda were not originally aware of the case (we at N4G knew before them) and they even stated they hope it works for the other devs.

Was on N4G about a week or two ago

Singu1arity4667d ago

This will be thrown out. You can't trademark a dictionary word.

Cinotix4667d ago

Exactly so the winner is the poor defendant.

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-LUKE_SKYWALKER-4666d ago

Yes you can and Apple is a good example.

Apple trade marked the word Apple and no one else can use it to some degree.

http://www.apple.com/legal/...

beastgamer4666d ago (Edited 4666d ago )

Apple, App Store (MS is going crazy over that name, don't know what's wrong with "marketplace", but MS is turning necks to make a judge remove apple from owning app store) I don't see Google complaining.

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15 Great Games Where Every Minute of the Experience Feels Earned

GB: "We take a look at 15 amazing games that had the perfect length."

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coolbeans20h ago

Pretty good list. Botany Manor would be the newest addition that encapsulates that title.

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Anyone else not blown away with graphics these days? Me neither

Talal writes: "I'm talking about having that rush of excitement - that feeling you get when you know you've just made a memory for a lifetime."

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OptimusDK4d ago

There are different games. Some have gamplay at it highest priority, some have the story, some have the replay value and choices... There are a lot of different game experiences.

It is laughable that just now graphics does not have anything to do with that experiene. We have had many games of that type over time. This is just the one that have come closest to feel like playing an actual movie. Just look the the Digital foundry walkthrough it is a masterpiece in that perspective and hence wrth trying. But yes do not do it for the gameplay - but that was never the goal of this experience.

GamerRN3d ago

It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!

Lightning773d ago

Pretty much my thoughts. They were technical marvel's on PS and still are. The moment Xbox puts out a graphically intense game is doesn't matter suddenly.

4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. Glad to finally see it in its glory.

fr0sty3d ago

FFS, gaming journalism has really gone downhill. At least hire people with a basic grasp of grammar... "Me neither" means the exact opposite of what the "author" is trying to say. That's like saying "I could care less"... lol.

S2Killinit3d ago

Maybe because the gameplay being dull allowed it to have the amazing graphics and people are not as impressed by graphics alone anymore? I mean there is a lot of sites saying the story and the gameplay are lackluster. So what are we supposed to enjoy then? Cgi graphics are beautiful but since they arent interactive, they dont impress me as much as they used to. Thats an extreme example, but you get my drift.

Terry_B3d ago

When Playstation (Sony) does it..its usually a great game and not a cinematic experience..or at least something new at the time..like Until Dawn back in 2015.

1Victor3d ago

@gamer:” It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!”

The game looks as good as any other PlayStation game in my eyes why can’t you and the other hardcore Xbox be happy about it and drag PlayStation into every conversation and force PlayStation hardcore to look into the game and find flaw that most games have in one way or another.
@light: “ 4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. ”
Yes at that time it was only possible on PlayStation SSD how ignorant of you to think that after 4 years the technology wouldn’t evolved and move to a industry standard 🤦🏿I wish your mentality wasn’t so naive and narrow to post stuff like that 😩 in a year or 2 a new game will come out that might look better, it’s the nature of the industry.

Now that the distraction is gone I feel that is a good thing that the graphics in games are starting to hit the rooftop and hopefully the developers will put more thoughts into story and gameplay mechanics than just the next shiny oily skin of old.

Reaper22_3d ago

So true. Not surprised by all the negativity. It's a really good game and looks better than any game I've ever seen. GOTY nominee for sure. Like I said before, sony screwed up big time by not purchasing Ninja Theory.

Asplundh3d ago

Pretty much. It's like how the Switch and Steam controller using haptic feedback in their controllers wasn't a big deal but then Sony did it and it was then a "game changer".

fr0sty3d ago

The game runs at as low as 21fps... That isn't much to brag about no matter how good it looks.

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MajorLazer3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

We've had graphical gamechangers before, such as Crysis but those games still had gameplay to compliment it. Hellblade pretty much has none, and only achieved such graphics through being incredibly linear and having very small, closed off environments where very little is happening.

Vx_3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

GFX does not mean anything if the game is boring. It is simple like that and these major companies need to understand this simple concept.

Games are like your lady, she may be beautiful to look at for a while but then it gets boring if her character isn't interesting and fun to be with.

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Kneetos3d ago

Mario kart 8 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sonic18813d ago

Horizon forbidden West has great graphics and great gameplay

GamerRN3d ago

Yeah but graphics don't matter, remember?

anast3d ago

@RN

I've been pretty consistent in saying that we need both.

GamerRN1d 19h ago

So until dawn, too human, or whatever those series of games were... Graphic masterpieces it garbage with no gameplay?

VincentVanBro3d ago

I agree and I actually think Forbidden West looks better than Hellblade 2. I easily prefer looking at it at least.

Sonic18813d ago

It does look better in my opinion as well. I don't know why it looks better but there's something about the Decima engine or that guerrilla games is using tricks that we don't know of

Abear212d ago

Can you fly a mount under water in Hellblade 2? I think not! One of the best moments this Gen

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill12d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow112d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill12d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb12d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

HvNzSoul3d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnessacery Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games.

HvNzSoul3d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnecessary Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games, they just weren't 100% focused on stealth with Conviction and they remedied that in Blacklist. The only thing they have released recently that I was disappointed with was Watch Dogs Legion, and Skull & Bones. Everyone seems to be salty about the misleading trailer for the original Watch Dogs and The Division. Which are also, both good games, and actually Watch Dogs seems like it was ahead of its time even with all the trailer drama (having gone back and played recently, can say the game didnt deserve all the flak). Yeah the misleading E3 trailer that had better graphics than release is understandable to a very small degree, when most Teaser Trailers, or Game Demo's only have that portion of the game developed so they use the highest quality assets of w/e they have being showed, or what they are showing was made purely for the showing, allowing for extra polish . As to the gripes about minor game design changes, or cut features upon a games release just goes to show how unknowledgeable most gamers are in terms of how game development works or to even understand what what the hell a WIP, let alone titles still in early development.

Good games from Ubi since 2014 (Year that SC Blacklist Released) include:

Watch Dogs 1 & 2
The Division 1 & 2 (Although I had a hard time getting into The Division 2 at first)
R6 Siege
Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint
Immortals Fenyx Rising
AC Origins, Odyssey, MIrage (Haven't finished Valhalla games too damn long)
Far Cry Primal, and 5 (6 also has a length issue)
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora
Prince Of Persia The Lost Crown

Haven't played a couple of titles those being For Honor (played at launch but didn't honestly give it an actual go), The Crew, R6 Extraction and at the time of writing this xDefiant.

Even if you absolutely hated any of the above titles, they aren't inherently bad games, they're just good, but not always top quality either.

I say give Ubi credit where credit is due, they at least fix games post launch if they start out rough, Breakpoint is an excellent example this and is such an enjoyable experience now compared to it's launch.