Virtua Fighter 5: 360 Version Has Better Graphics

After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world.

[jiggyjay]

Let the defending begin! Let me sum up the comments that are going to be said on this thread.

Sony Fanboy1- Lazy Devs!

Sony Fanboy2- the 360 had more Dev time!

Sony Fanboy3- Tekken is far superior anyways!

Sony Fanboy4- One word RROD!

Edit

Sony Fanboy5- We can at least play this game online for free.. LOL

Sony Fanboy6- XBL has so much lag that you won't even be able to play this online. PSN has no lag!

[thereapersson]

You can't seriously believe that you are better than any of the other dimwitted Sony fanboys on this site, can you?

Seriously...

[karlostomy]

LOL!

don't forget these ones:

Sony fanboy5:.. but wait for teh cell/bray potentialz
Sony fanboy6:...if it was developed on ps3 first it would have been better...oh wait

It sure is a letdown for ps3fans

[JsonHenry]

If they were so different, why did they not add side by side photos comparing the two?

I personally believe the 360 IS the more powerful system (the PS3 is bottlenecked beyond belief) so I have no doubt that the 360 version looks better. BUT I will still like to see pictures, especially after making the claims that there is such a big difference between the two versions.

[razer]

Dimwitted Sony fanboy like yourself.. How such a fanboy has so many bubbles is beyond me..

[fredy]

- A Sony fans Excuse list posted a while back

"I hate EA" (and UBI, Activision, Capcom, id, Epic, and 2K)
"EA is MS's b!tch"
"MS funds all review-sites"
"EA=Peter Moore"
"Just Wait"
"Just wait till 08"
"just wait till 09"
"Lazy"
"Lazy devs"
"ring of death"
"lazy"
"EA sucks"
"EA can't make good games" (Battlefild, most sports titles, Burnout, The Sims and upcomming Crysis and Army of Two)
"f**k EA"
"wait"
"when"
"someday"
"fantasy"
"lie"
"f**k Peter Moore"
"f**k MS"
"EPIC UNREAL engine is CRAP all the sudden"
"Konami and their sh$tty PS3 online PES"[we like EA Fifa, afterall]

Wasn't this game done on the PS3 first?

I thought it was always the other way around going from the 360 to PS3 might suffer?

[jackfatal]

just 1 sentence!
they had soooooooooooooo much time to improve everything to the easier console!!

if they didnt improve the graphics with 6 months of poring then no one will buy this game!

oblivion,graw2,lost planet!! hellooo??? i dont get wats ur points YOU xbots??

[mikeslemonade]

This is an arcade port orginally anyway. It wasn't built from the ground up for the PS3. 360 fans will be eating there words back next year. It's easy to say things after a one year headstart and still get your butt kicked by the Wii. The truth is that the 360 doesn't sell in Europe or in Japan.

[Wii60_FTW]

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[psycho360]

nasim/shemie where r u?????????? Go on bring excuse no 110 MS paid Kaz to cripple the ps3.

[XerockX]

You can't play this online on ps3 because there is NO online mulitplayer ...period...just thought i'd tell you.;)

[Doppy]

I've played both of them running side by side, and the only difference graphically is that the xbox 360 version has slightly better colors and lighting than the PS3 version.

The biggest difference is that the Xbox 360 version seems to have more fluid animations than the PS3 version. Will all this make me go out and buy the 360 version. No, but it is nice to know developers are improving on games that are released later on other consoles.

Now that you know stop all the fanboy comments from the 360 side and PS3 side. Why don't you all act like Nintendo fanboys and keep quiet.

[ruibing]

Thanks for summing some of the things I was going to say up, you really saved me a lot of time. More 360 fans should do this for PS3 fans.

[BrianC6234]

Fghters are so boring. There's nothing to see here folks. Lets move along.

[jiggyjay]

SonyFaboy7- "Fghters are so boring. There's nothing to see here folks. Lets move along."

SonyFanboy8- "Better colors don't mean better graphics."

SonyFanboy9- The PS3 is a year old while the 360 is two years old.

SonyFanboy10- MGS/FF13/Lair/HS has better graphics than any 360 games out there!

SonyFanboy11- MS uses last gen DVDs! There's now way that would look better because PS3 uses Blu Ray

SonyFanboy12- Wait and wait and wait and wait.................and wait...

SonyFanboy13- Halo3@640p

[robep3]

First of all have a LOOK at Ninja Gaiden Sigma SAME EFFECT on characters in that game on the PS3 SO IT CAN BE DONE.
AS you 360 FB'S say if a game is better ON PS3 OH they have had a year longer to develop for the PS3 SO SAME HERE.
Also there has been talk of a patch to provide the missing features for the PS3 THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF ALL PS3'S HAVING A HARD DRIVE unlike the cheaper consoles available on the market and as developers are stating GAMES like UNCHARTED only using 30-50% of the spu's in the cell chip at anytime lets see what happens 12 months from now.
By then PS3 GAMES could be using dual layer on BD DISCS so how many
of those OLD FASHIONED DVD GAME DISCS MS INSISTS YOU USE WOULD YOU NEED while the PS3 VERSION COULD STREAM FROM ONE DISC MATE.
Then we have COD4,GTA4(STATED DVD A PROBLEM LOL)UT3,HAZE AND OF COURSE GT5 which unlike FORZA 2/PGR4 the cars look real and dont look like they have been WRAPPED IN CLING FILM.(IE PLASTIC LOOKING)
Also have a look at R&C,MGS4 SO PLENTY TO LOOK FORWARD 2 over next
few months and into next year & beyond!!!!!!!!!!!

[robep3]

Hi ALL

PS3 screen shot my Plasma HDMI GUESS WHAT unlike the review stated low and behold SHEEN on the characters & costumes

maybe GAMESRADAR SHOULD BUY SOME NEW GEAR FOR REVIEWS LOL

Rob.

[UnblessedSoul]

Lol funny stuff

[the worst]

so sorry it not better
ps3 is the best version
hahaha sucker
wait until the lag kicks in
you get killed and none
of the players moved

[SmokeyMcBear]

oh i see.. extra shiny textures means better graphics.. ok, i see now

[bluebrad1974]

better gaming hardware leads to better graphics.

[kornbeaner]

Why does sarah look like shes made of vinyl???

[Solotov]

Nice job, Sega. It is a decent graphics improvement over the PS3.

[unlimited]

its only slightly better..and what did u expect this game release like in feb of this year on the ps3....buy tekken and play online on the ps3 now thats the game you want to play..

[jjfunaz]

Please see Post1
"Sony Fanboy2- the 360 had more Dev time! "
and
"Sony Fanboy3- Tekken is far superior anyways!"

You managed to hit two predicted arugments with one post congrats!

Seriously though I think the extra time was spent porting and adding online play. Microsoft makes developers jump through hoops to get XBL funcionality into their games. I don't think that the graphics are that much supioror if any but I would like to see some side by side comparisons

[vilmer]

Too shiny.

[mesh1]

kids the shine is called HDR a very complicated and powerful next gen effect that uses all light source to extraordinary clearness so u new comers to games calm down plz . and yes yet again the 360 shows its capability online play, BETTER texture's ,better hdr lighting/better antialising its a new game.

[wageslave]

Want a good example of terrible lighting?

See Uncharted Drakes Fortune trailer here:
http://www.us.playstation.c...

use a critical eye to note;

The shadows are all one color.
The only thing casting shadows is the characters.
The shadows look "flat" ie; light is not reflecting, but coming from a single source.

If you've watched the trailers for Uncharted, watch it again, but pay CLOSE attention to the shadows and lighting.

Its the superior lighting in the Xbox 360 that shows through in VF5's superior graphics. Note in VF5 how ripples in clothing have different "degrees" of shadow, how the light i s more natural and variable.

[unlimited]

yeah its more shiny and plastic...xbots got the perfect game..i am so so mad..lmao..

[Grassroots]

Why is it to the point where the tiniest marginally difference is worth bragging about. I do wish the ps3 version had online, but I'm not going to double dip for just that. Enjoy a great game.

[InMyOpinion]

Because a year ago the PS3 was supposed to trash the 360 completely in terms of graphics. And it has'nt. Lots of promises but still no proof of it's massive graphical advantages. That's what the fuzz is about.

Still, I have to say GT5 and Drakes Fortune (crazy water effects) look extremely beautiful and as good or even better than anything the 360 released thus far. Maybe Mass Effect can rival them graphically, but I'm not sure.

[Kaneda]

A year ago PS3 did trash most Xbox 360 games...if you compared both system launched titles. Xbox 360 didn't get anything til GOW... PS3 already got RFOM...1st week...

[bluebrad1974]

You don't know much about the 360 do you? I have yet to s ps3 game surpass Kameo (360 launch title) in graphics. Enjoy the pics.

[PimpHandHappy]

and i didnt see jaggies

once again the 360 proves it puts a nice sheen on the graphics. Nice and shiney

[Meus Renaissance]

I seem to remember when delayed versions of multiplatform games coming out on the PS3 a month or two later, having improved visuals to a certain degree. Nothing significant however. In fact, this notion was bought forward by many Xbox owners when PS3 fanboys tried to boast.

This is similar to that. Developers have more time to tweak little things to further improve their product. Unless people are implying the PS3 can't handle VF5 with improved visuals, or support Online play for titles, I have no idea what this story actually is meant to mean.

[supaflypriest1]

from my understanding, the PS3 was suppose to be so powerful that anything that was release for it first would look so bad on the 360, even if it was released months after... the 360 was suppose to be xbox 1.5...I just don't get how an xbox 1.5 can achieve in some cases, better graphics than the almighty PS3, oh i forgot, the PS3 hasn't reached its potential yet, got it...

[s8anicslayer]

you sound like my little sister bickering with her friends you biatch!

[bluebrad1974]

There have been approx. 3 ps3 multi-plats out of around 35-40 games that have been marginally superior. Oblivion is the most recognized, and it took around 11 monthes of extra dev time. Games like Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, Madden, NCAA, NHL, MLB, Fight Night and a whole host of niche titles are all superior on 360. And most of those games the ps3 version had anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 monthes extra dev time. As far as I'm concerned, that above and beyond enough proof that the 360 is the superior game machine.

[FullyLoaded420]

but...but.... its the cell....

and FREE ONLINE!!!

wait....the PS3 version doesnt have online...

nevermind....(sigh)

*goes back to watching movies*

[mesh1]

haha i almost cacked my pants very funny bubble for u.

[karlostomy]

and another bubble from me too

Goddam the funny posters get downbubbled too much.
Dont the ps3 camp have a sense of humour?
Oh that's right. There is 'potential' for humour. But the developers are too lazy.

here.. have two bubbles... oh wait...

[PimpHandHappy]

and it doesnt look as good as VF did single player.

i wonder if it will lag?

[blusoops]

You have Tekken 5 DR, which was a PS2/PSP game, not a true next-gen game. Wait for Tekken 6 and that should be more comparable to VF and DOA.

[Tryst]

But seriously, Teken 6 is p!ssing all over this game, and it isn't even finished yet!

There should be a rule on this site to stop X-bots posting news.

Now, the graphics difference between the two more noticeable than the graphics difference between CoD4? Remember people, this game has had more than 6 months extra time to gloss up. CoD4 looks better on the PS3 and they had the same Dev time.

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

Read the first post.

You got some of them.

[sagapo]

Well, we can compare it with FightNight3 for x360 and PS3, where the PS3 looked better (only just) imo. But it has been in developement longer.
VF5 has been longer in developement for the x360, so it could explain the "better" graphics, wich tbh don't meant sh!t when the game itself should suck. ( i'm not saying VF5 sucks, just tried to make a point...)

[LOFT316]

I got a few games on th PS3 when it came out that i already had on the xbox Fight night which i thought looked a lot better and tiger woods and virtua tennis and they all looked better and you just have to put it down to more devopment time virtua fighter should be no differ'nt thats what you'd expect when a game comes out a good few months later on another console

[Hockeymac18]

You're correct, it's probably due to the extra development time. However, I do believe the better looking version of Oblivion on the PS3 is probably partly due to more development time as well.

And as an aside (just because you mentioned it), I was under the impression that Fight Night 3 was NOT one of those games that looked better on the PS3. I seem to remember a comparison video when the PS3 version came out comparing the two and the conclusion reached was that the 360 version looked better in most ways (lighting in particular). I'm not sure, though, since that's just what I remember (we all know how memory can be sometimes) and as such could just be me.

Anyways, good points.

[bluebrad1974]

Here is an event that was held by an unbiased 3rd party with thousands of attendees. Guess which version of FNR3 was voted the best looking...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

[richie]

same old story the ps3's been had once again.

[fenderputty]

or you could insert the comment <here>.

Both would work just fine, right xbox fans. lol

[gamesblow]

This is sega, folks... They're not developer geniuses here. I mean, look at all their games. They look like donkey piss. They're not a graphics heavy talented group over there at Sega. They're use to simple things... Hell, they tried to make games for their own Saturn and failed miserably at doing it... Know why? cause it was hared to dev for. Same with the ps3. It's hard to dev for... xbox 360, easy. Right up Sega's talentless hack ass alley.

[SabreMan]

absolutely wrong on all counts, graphically Virtua Fighter 5 is stunning on both consoles so are titles like Sega Rally and Virtua Tennis, you seem to be missing the point all Sega titles are pickup and play arcade games on a home console.
Virtua Fighter 5 is one of the deepest games you will ever play and calling Sega titles to simple is ridiculous, infact it's bordering on blasphemy.

As for you comment about the Saturn, it wasn't hard to develop for it has some superb titles some still unmatched, Panzer Dragoon Sega anuone. unfortunately for Sega they made the Saturn a 2d powerhouse unlike the Playstation that beat it hands down regarding it's 3d capabilities. In the mid nineties the console gaming world embraced 3d games and the Saturn simple couldn't keep up.

so in conclusion stop talking irrelevant trash

[InMyOpinion]

Is that why Sega has always been graphical pioneers?

"The 1993 release of Virtua Fighter was widely held as one the greatest achievements in Sega's history; utilizing their newest arcade cabinet, the Sega Model 1, they managed to create graphics and gameplay that were revolutionary, as recognized by the Smithsonian Institution, which has a Virtua Fighter cabinet on display."

They practically invented the type of 3D games we play today with games like Virtua Cop, Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing, Daytona USA etc.

As far as I know Jet Set Radio was the first game ever to use cel-shading technology so you have Sega to thank for that as well.

Shenmue for the Dreamcast was revolutionary in so many ways it would take to long to list them all. Real-time weather, quick time events, free battle system, a free quest mode that you could decide to play at your own pace and which let you interact with almost anything.

My guess is that you were born in the late nineties and know nothing about gaming history.

[Hockeymac18]

How old are you? You seem not to really know why the Saturn failed. It had nothing to do with "talentless hacks", but rather with the management at the company (32x...Sega CD...why did they do this!?).

There was also the issue of an extremely complicated hardware architecture (from what I remember, I believe they had two GPUs essentially...someone correct me if I'm off on that though) that very few developers wanted to work with (man...why does this sound so familiar? Almost like a system that's out right now!...).

That being said, the system put out some truly amazing games that I still to this day love (Panzer Dragoon Saga...oh how I love thee). It was simply outpaced by the PS1 in terms of marketing, third party relations, very complex architecture, etc.

The dreamcast kicked MAJOR ass (perhaps the greatest console of all time in terms of the first two years), and I'm still mourning the loss of the system (although I do still have it connected to my TV). If you think the DC sucked, well...I don't know what to say. Anyways...you seem to not totally know what you're talking about, so perhaps you should read up some more?

I'll admit some (key word) of the more recent (second key word) Sega games have kinda been of a rushed/poor quality (what the hell is going on with Sonic TEAM!?), but to say that the Sega didn't put out amazing games for the Saturn is purely ignorant and silly (I'd know since I had a Saturn and the best games by far were almost all from Sega).

[The Karate Kid]

Game looks exactly the same on both consoles. (Minor Differences)

PS3 version the fighter has *Jaggies* but texturing on the fighters are better more realer. (Not a huge Difference)

360 version the fighters has no *Jaggies* but the fighters looks alittle more plastic and a little less real. (Not a huge difference)

Both difference equates the game from a graphical standpoint.

360 version gets the edge for Online play & Extra Features!

But again without processing, this game is a last generation game with *Just* next generation graphics.

I do have a little secret, of a extended remix version on PS3 with extra fighters and online play!

[wangdiddy82]

this was the first fighting game on the ps3 and it was almost a launch title.. It was released 4 months after the ps3 came out.

SOOOOOO My 360 better be able to push this game out and make it even look slightly better or ill be pissed.. Ive had my 360 for 2 years and there's not one good fighting game on the system.. VF5 on the ps3 has been the best fighting game out so far.. I really didnt like the game but reviewers praised it.. Anyway its good to see that the 360 has a good fighting game now.. I wouldnt be bragging so much because the graphics arent that much better than the ps3 version.. And like i said it was a launch title on the ps3.. Just go back and play DOA to see how the first fighting game on the 360 looked..

[lawman1108]

That was not a good fighting game?

[jwatt]

A game that took a while to get ported over should have better graphics it's the online enabled that's a big deal. I played the ps3 version and I also have a 360 but I still probably won't pick this up. I would rather play DOA or Tekken Online.

[TheMART]

"we’re proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it’s like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5’s here, online, and all is right with the world."

It just says it all. It's funny that Sony fanboys always like to hear about the only game that was really a bit better on the PS3, Oblivion, that came a year later on the PS3 compared to a fast PC port for the 360 and they don't want to hear about real improvements like this VF5 version a half year after the PS3 version.

They always say with PS3 games: "It got a 360 port, thus it can never get better then the original"

Well dudes, here is your proof. A PS3 port looks better on the 360. How about that? The 360 'ports' on the PS3 look less. The PS3 'ports' on the 360 look better. Obviously the 360 hardware is better for gaming if they can achieve this with just a port. You can talk Cell and BluRay all day long, but in the end, the 360 gets the better games and better versions of multiplatform games.

That MUST hurt. Simple as that. Ubisoft and EA games all are better on the 360. Two major dev's with many games that many people want. Now we see a former PS exclusive doing better on the 360. What's next?

Even before the PS3 launched some of the PS fangirls wanted to rub it in. With guys like DJ in front talking all kind of SOny marketing blabla from so called 'devs'. Just stuff straight off a userforum. A lot of bull about paperspecs (anyone remember all those PS2 FLOPS and other numbers but in the end the XBOX 1 had better graphics?). Same story all over again.

These days are good for 360 gamers. Reality proves the PS3 is a big lie. Yeah it's payback time for all that sh!t we had to hear for months

[Meus Renaissance]

Sometimes I wonder if you're trying to convince YOURSELF that the Xbox 360 is the only console that someone needs.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

same here.

i`ve been thinking that for a while.

[magera]

me too.

[Wii60_FTW]

3 DUMBASSES IN A ROW! ^ ^ ^

[harv052]

Reading your posts has the same effect for me as watching a toilet flush...console arguments...so juvenile...

[jessupj]

I'm trying to keep calm, but you xbox fanboys are just too much to handle. It's called game development. We keep giving you the same legitiment reason but you just refuse to leave you fantasy world.

You think just because you have a lot of better versions of multiplatforms your console can perform better? At least I can admire your logic, but that is your bias view. The core is much harder to program for. You need ALOT more dev time for PS3 games, ALOT!. How long have GT5 and MGS been in development for? Maybe too long, I might agree with you there. But learning new things takes a long time sometimes.

In hardware terms the PS3 is a lot superiour to it's counterpart, 360. That is a fact people. So enough with the stupid bias fanboy statements saying the 360 console is superiour in hardward. If a game is worse, it's because of the development team and the slow learning curve.

[wil4hire]

How about Call of Duty 4..

Or Oblivion...

Which all look better on the ps3.

The Xbox's days are over. Its maxed out its potential to look a LITTLE better than the ps3 version of an old damn near launch title.

GOod job!!

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

true.

for how much time they`ve had, theirs NOT much of a difference.

[ry-guy]

Eh, I disagree on CoD4.

People have been comparing screen captures and, for instance, the grass in the PS3 verison looks like it has been transplanted sticks. While the Xbox 360 verison looks much smoother and lusher.

On Oblivion: I would hope it would look better since it took exactly a year to be ported (Xbox 360: March 20, 2006; PS3: March 20, 2007). This is like failing an exam and then taking the same exam a year later, I would hope you improved.

[lawman1108]

Xbox 360: hardware to software ratio: 6.59 (hardware total sold = 6.8 million; software total sold = 44.8 million)
PlayStation 3: hardware to software ratio: 3.58 (hardware total sold = 1.9 million; software total sold = 6.8 million)
Wii: hardware to software ratio: 3.44 (hardware total sold = 4.5 million; software total sold = 15.5 million)
.........OUCH!!!!!!!!!.....44 MILLION to 6 million .........who's day is over? PLAYTHRUYOURT3ARS

[cr33ping_death]

i wonder what f@cking microscope some of you look at these games through....because they look excatly the same to me.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

all i can say is they`ve had LOTS of EXTRA time, it should look better.

[AllroundGamer]

they also got probably more money from MS... GTA style ;)

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

but hey......

thats the MS way.

[sticky doja]

prepare to die.

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

Hahaha! I cant belive that the first comment is still working! ROFL...

[mighty_douche]

tekken six. (im a tekken fan)

still good news for 360 fans.

still lets try not to let this turn into another thread concerned more with 'my consoles bigger than your console' than the actual article.

[magera]

i think thats wishfull thinking. the fanboys are out in force on this one i`m afraid.

[Kaze88]

Well what can i say...good for you xbox360 owners :)!

(This just reminds me of the fact that when ps3 owners get something game later with better graphics or extra content some (NOT EVERY ONE!) x0 owners say "well no matter cause we have been playing it for a year or two now so ha ha ha ha" which is pretty lame fanboy reaction in my opinion....)

[BloodySinner]

Vice versa. What's your point?

[Kaze88]

Well i think that this still happens more on the x0 side of user, but its just cause more games come later from x0 to ps3.

I think that my point was that this "news" sounds like an flaming.

[BloodySinner]

You think it's coming more from the Xbox 360 base because you pay more attention to it.

Any article that involves a console outperforming the other would bring a serious flame war. Just like that Call of Duty 4 news from yesterday. - http://n4g.com/NewsPending-...
See the reaction from the Sony boys.

Now look at this... - http://n4g.com/News-78893.a...

=/

[mesh1]

all i can say is OWNED. 360 is the greates console of this genaration dotn be angry dont cry dry your eye.

[u got owned]

Amen brotha

[jessupj]

They weren't kidding about the fanboys being out in force.

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! It's every man for himself! o the horror.... the horror!!!!

[u got owned]

It's funny to see all this PS3 Fans in denial... lol

[goodganja]

I dont get it. Is the Mart and the rest of these Microboyz trying to convince themselves that they have a game which is on PS3? Or are they THAT excited that this is the first fighting game released in two years?

Dead or Alive must suck that bad.

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

[u got owned]

What you don't get? look at your self in the mirror and you'll understand.

you're the one trying to justify your $600 purchase.

[kalle]

DoA4 is mutch more fun to play, BUT after almost 2 years of fighting it's fun to try some new fighting games. And when the former PS exclusive game turns out to work better on the 360 it's SOOOOOOOOOO nice.

In your face, Fony-fan

W A I T B 3 Y O N D

[Kuest]

I hope that PS3 fans will now stop using the ol' "Oblivion trump card".

Dev time clearly MATTERS- and will always result in a better game. Meaning when Stranglehold, or the Orange BOx, releases on PS3... I don't wanna hear any "oh, look how SUPERIOR developers can work wonders for Sony's console". None of that.

Anyways, this game came a litle bit too late for me. Seriously, when considering all the AAA titles coming out in Nov... VF5 is just a (very small) needle in a haystack.

edit:

OK, I'll agree to that. However, I think it's fair to say that games that are released 6 months, or less, after its older version should at least LOOK the same.

Fair enough?

[ry-guy]

Eh, I agree to an extent.

If the delay between ports is 6 months or greater than graphics should be improved, hands down.

If the delay between ports is less than 6 months, I think this is more of an issue of gameplay and not graphics. I doubt you have enough time to improve graphical output to the noticeable margins within 6 months while handling all the other issues we are not aware of.

[goodganja]

Obviously Oblivion is an extremely better port on PS3. I wont even bring that up.

But one game that falls under the radar that is EXTREMELY superior on PS3 is Fight Night Round 3.It runs at 1080p 60fps on PS3 Yes EA Sports does have a superior port on PS3 but you Xborgs like to try to sweep that under the mud.

But Ganja is here to remind yall that EA Chicago are talented Devs who know how to code for PS3 properly.

Without online, VF5 would be the SAME..EXACT...GAME on both platforms. Wanna make graphical differences? Play VF 5 on your 360 at 1080p....wait never mind, you cant. Play VF 5 on your PS3 at 1080p visuals and you will see a more polished and graphical showcase on PS3.

So the rest of you Xtrolls and Microgirls can STFU with your claims of useless and uninformative knowledge.

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

[kalle]

So we cant play VF5 @ 1080p and STILL it looks better on the 360 :D :D :D + we have online :D :D :D

You are f(_)cking discusting, your parents most regret ever bringing you to life.

[mighty_douche]

this is me being a fanboy for a minute...

lol at the xbox fans trying to rub it in, this game was out a year ago on the ps3, its hardly far to compare them wouldnt you say? probably not cos most of you have your heads rammed so far up bill gates ass i dont know where he ends and you begin.

what makes me laugh is that 99% of you probably wont even buy this game yet you still feel need to act like this is some form of personal success! wierdos...

[shodown19]

But you have a good point. If you cant tell by my picture, I prefer Sony's platform of games. But I still own an XBOX 360 because I would be a fool to pass up on some of the great games they offer. VF5 being one of them.

When it was announced that it was coming to 360 earlier this year, I witheld buying the PS3 version because I like to fight online. But yes, a lot of Xbox fanboys I feel are boasting about this not because they want to play the game, but only because of it's slight superior visuals on 360.

Either way, for those who actually will be playing VF5, please contact me on my Gamertag which is on my profile. I'll gladly whoop your ass with Kage and then turn around and whoop someone's ass with Lei Wulong. That challenge goes out to all of the biggest XBOX and PS3 advocates out there. Cause I dont believe half of you own the systems you boast about so much.

The best of both consoles is the only way to game. I'm out.

[wangdiddy82]

just go watch this video.. its freaking awesome.. Screw this game it was done and over a year ago..

http://blog.us.playstation....

[wangdiddy82]

stop comparing a launch title to a game released on a console that has been out for 2 years.. Now go watch the video..

http://blog.us.playstation....

[The Ginsu Masta]

OK I'm all about the 360,but remember fight round 3 came out in February for the 360.Then how months later for PS3 and the graphics were just overall better.Well if you ask me this is the same thing.Only this time the situation is reversed,and it's a different game.More time spent on the game should be a better product.

[power of Green]

I was taken down to 4 bubbles the other day for saying what all the reviewers are saying now.

Anyway the more I play this game the more I realize how lucky Sony fans were. The game plays like a dream I love how you make your own combos instead of activating canned combos animations so to speak" with a series of secret button patterns.

[Meus Renaissance]

I'll give you a Bubble

[Ashta]

No difference in the graphics.

Both are awesome versions of the game and the 360 version has all that nice multi-player wrapped up inside.

On that note however, I kinda find it obvious that a reviewer from "Xbox 360 World" would take his time out and bash the PS3. Sure, the game was out a year and a half ago and, whether or not you want to call this a fanboy statement or not, it had more development time and was built as a port on a piece of hardware that developers were way more familiar with. Still, that said, the versions look almost identical and play exactly the same except for two details. Those are:

1) Multiplayer added and DLC coming
2) The 360 version has had a better anti-aliasing ratio added which removes some jaggies and sheens things over better.

So, now that thats said, everyone can actually get back to enjoying the -game- part right?

[kingboy]

Looks same nothing more nothing less apart from online

[power of Green]

You should see it in action the bland, dark, gritty look you favor isn't next-get nor is it a choice all devs choose for PS3 games its an limitation of the PS3 the shinny look is due to a powerful Next-gen capability(HDR)the 360 uses. You do have an HDTV right? if so go watch some club 1080 programs on Discovery HD and you'll see the Xbox 360 more closely matches real life lighting and vibrance making all games look great and the Photo Real ones more realistic.

[mighty_douche]

oh dear.... yeah the 360's graphics are 'photo realistic'... what a nub, both consoles and pc are a long way from that.

[gamehendge]

is it in 640p?

[caffman]

in 4D?

[rowdy 1]

are graphically superior to all 360 games hands down. The margin will will increase once uncharted comes out. Also can you really tell the difference. Both of these games look good, but it's not like it's that complexed of game.

[power of Green]

I feel you pain being lied to for so long must be devastating. Let all out Sony fans.

[genericname]

I guess the x-kiddies know alot about pain, the pain of scratched discs, RROD consoles, games in 640p, dismal sales outside of NA,....yeah, you guys are experts.

[harpua]

bwaaaaaaaah, so shiny plastic looking characters are better graphics all of a sudden? funny stuff...

[DG]

Well obviously its going to look better its been like a year well maybe more like 6 months. Who cares what looks better it has online play. I swear Im contemplating to buy a PS3 just to seperate my self from you bots and fanboys.

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

Why dont you just quote the first comment? It says everything at once.

[DG]

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[power of Green]

How do you get agree's Uncharted isn't that great(gameplay is a joke it looks painted)looks like a barely more supped up Tomb Raider.

Theres 360 games on the way that will blow Uncharted and other PS3 games out of the water and have proven so long time ago.(Alan Wake and Project offset to name a couple)

[genericname]

"Theres 360 games on the way that will blow Uncharted and other PS3 games out of the water"

Will believe when i see. So far only gears, and while that is an awesome game, it had more freeze ups than the north pole.

[magera]

Hey power of green you are sooo lucky. you have made an assessemnt of uncharted`s gameplay, that would mean you have played the game. Did the developers send you your own private demo or did they invite you to their offices to have a play?

[OOG FunK]

coo might pick this up unsure yet tho kinda on fence

[smeg0rz]

they developed on 360 had more time and improved on the game, ps3 is only true nextgen system it's as simple as your DVD drive is shat and Ive got all three, I rate

PS3 ,then 360 then Wii

[magera]

I have ps3 and 360 and although i love both to bits i would go with the ps3 as being better.

[MadMax]

First off speak english! Your ghetto slang is outdated and is getting old. How old are you, 12? Everyone here knows damn well the PS3 has had more than enough time, no more excuses. PS3 has been out for about a year now and still cant pull it together. You have nothing to back up your sh@t talkin, stupid wigger!

[magera]

thank you for those thoughtful and intelligent comments. You are absolutely right, the english language is often degraded on forums such as this and we should all follow your example and use correct words such as sh@t and talkin.

[power of Green]

Kingdom Under Fire COD blows it out of the water.

Its not a "we'll see issue" its a fact. I'v been keeping up with every 360 game and reading ass loads of info and progress about them wouldn't waste my time with rabid kidz- you can't reason with if I didn't at least know what I was talking about.

[genericname]

"I didn't know what I was talking about."

yeah we know, we are use to that by now.

[Ri0tSquad]

why is everyone acting like it BLOWS the ps3 version away? It should look better on the 360 since this is what...the 3rd year its been out? Devs like Sega should be familiar with it so porting the game + more time + easier architecture = better graphics, features, and online play.

[wageslave]

You're mising the point.

The game does look better on Xbox 360. As does virtually every multi-platform game. Heck, just this week we've seen PES2008, Virtua Fighter 5 and Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 as examples -- they are added to a long list of examples.

The point isnt "oh, its only a little" apologies, it is consistent. Every Xbox 360 game has been better (either graphics and/or online, and or DLC and/or earlier release dates, and on and on).

The Xbox 360 is a better machine at any price.

[Ri0tSquad]

The Playstation 3 is the more advanced gaming system. Developers, you know the people who make games for these consoles have said it. The PS3 architecture is complicated and you have to put in more work to get what you want from it. Developers aren't going to do this (take the time to optimize it to get the best performance possible)to the game when the game does'nt sell as much as the 360 version does which also requires less work.

"The Xbox 360 is a better machine at any price."

And that would be an opinion.

[gamesR4fun]

So they polished up the game for the 360 great now if they could get you fanbots to go out a buy it rather than troll n4g over every minor victory....
By the way it is a great game on the ps3 now just like it was when we got it ages ago enjoy the facelift and best of luck with the online....

[Kuest]

"now if they could get you [360] fanbots to go out and buy it [VF5]rather than troll n4g over every minor victory"

Last time I checked the 360's software attachment rating was 4.0+. Maybe, its someoneelse that needs to start buying games...*cough* Ratchet, how are you? Aww, you have the cold?

I don't blame you, not enough love from fans will make anybody sick.

[MadMax]

Well no sh@t, isnt that how its been with most all of the games that have been coming out for both systems? 360 graphics are pretty much always superior compared to the hard to program PS3s, hands down!

[genericname]

except for COD4, Dirt, Oblivion, etc.

[Kuest]

I knew somebody would try to pull this crap.

Look, both of you, you cannot compare games that are released at different time periods. So, Oblivion, Dirt, VF5, and "etc." (nice, generic) should never be compared. Not once.

On the whole, however, Mad Max (nice avatar) is correct. 360 games have consitently been superior to its PS3 siblings released at the SAME time. If you disagree, show me a link. Yes, that includes FNR3-which according to 1up, Gamespot, and IGN, is best realized on Xbox.

As for COD4, meh... I let the REVIEWS do the talking.

[kingboy]

Superior in you`re dreams my friend,nothing comes close to Uncharted and killzone just to be very brief

[MadMax]

lol, yea ok

[Xbox is the BEST]

game PS3 can do 360 can do better.

[kornbeaner]

in 640p.

[TheMART]

And even in 640p it looks better then the PS3 games. OUCH

[Mc187]

Tekken is the truth. virtua fighter 5 is a copycat,always will be.

[etownone]

did i miss something?

aside from LMAO at another game proven superior on the 360...why do i keep reading that COD4 is better graphically on the PS3? there still are no reviews that compare the two versions, so what gives?

anyways.... on an even more sadder note for Sonyfans, HAZE aint looking too good these days.

Harpua...thanks for the link, but everyone is jumping on a guys opinion from an unknown site? shouldn't we be waiting for real reviews from credited sites and reviewers??

[harpua]

"With that said, the console similarities end when it comes to textures, lighting and resolutions, because those three areas make the PlayStation 3 version definitely excel over the Xbox 360 SKU."

http://www.n4g.com/News-738...

[DJ]

hating on Playstation because the 360 version (which is being released almost 9 months later, mind you) looks a tiny bit better. Aren't you supposed to be glad that they were able to properly port Virtua Fighter 5 from nVidia hardware to ATI hardware without any hiccups? The game's pretty old, so I would be a lot more excited for Tekken 6 or Soul Calibur, but it's still a great fighting game worth checking out.

[shodown19]

Kuest. I didnt know you were pro Xbox like this.

[Kuest]

Its just that I try to seem realistic in all cases, even when it means taking a critcal look on my console. Just look at my comment history, I don't just randomly spew baseless facts. i try to back it up w/ a little reason.

In this thread, for example, all I am saying is that if people were "expecting" VF5 to look better on the 360 due to the time difference in relation to PS3... NOBODY should even think of mentioning Oblivion as an indicator of PS3's *hidden power*.

I don't think that's unreasonable, is it?

[aliveinboston]

Shiny is not HDR. When people look like shiny plastic it's because the shaders used to create the lighting are too simple. Xbox360 hardware is great for this kind of thing. However, Xbox fanboys (including the reviewer who talked about "xbox360 sheen") seem to think this is some kind of advanced graphical feature. It's actually the opposite.

It's hilarious sitting here watching Xbox360 fanboys drool over shiny plastic characters with shiny plastic hair that is a surefire indication that the developers were not able to get in complex skin shaders running smoothly.

HDR, btw, refers to stands for High Dynamic Range. Xbox360 games are hard-wired with an inferior HDR format (FP10) to what the PS3 (and nearly all modern PC hardware) have. Xbox360 hardware does not have the ability to do FP16 or equivalent quality HDR. Luckily most people have crappy TVs.

[DJ]

the PS3 uses much higher-quality HDR, and has the GPU memory bandwidth to pull it off.

[DARK WITNESS]

i am not a techie person and i am not going to pretend to know.

however i do agree with your first post. i have noticed a lot of games on the 360 do have that " sheen" that you talk about or as i like to call it " the plastic look "....even Bioshock. you are the first person who has explained this, at least that i have come across.

now thats not to say all the games look worse, there are still quite a few games that don't have that look at all, GRAW didn't or Oblivion etc. so i do think it is something the devs use to come up with " cheap effects ".

still i have not been blown away by anything on the ps3 yet. i don't agree about pgr4 being disappointing, thats one of the best looking games so far on any system( only let down by jaggies )

anyway i feel what you are saying. i am supprised people are making such a big deal out of this topic. first of all how many 360 fans are really going to buy and play this now. with halo and COD4 online play and mass effect story to get through, are we really that bothered ? if this had been out a few months back, ya i would have got it, but not now.

on the flip side its nice to see the ps3 fans falling back on the same excuses i remember a lot of 360 fans giving for the difference with oblivion.

anyway bubble to you for the informative post and i am also looking forward to Drakes fortune along with Mass effect. happy times !

[Bullseye]

360 graphics are always better. If you must make a graphics comparison, then i would say that 360 graphics appear more consistent.That is to say, they appear to suffer less from game problems such as stuttering framerates,lower refresh rates and other niggles.This may be a development thing or a hardware limitation,time will tell.However, the 360 gets those problems too, maybe just not as often.
Edit @60.1 Haven't played resistance so, can't comment. However, that is not an argument i have heard before, so it may just be your own preference which of course is fine.

[aliveinboston]

The only way to make a fair comparison is to take the best of what each console offers in similar types of games.

The best 360 graphics are still Gears of War. It hasnt got any better. Bioshock has it's good moments (shiny plastic skin aside) but the environments are very limited. All the other big budget games have been graphically disappointing such as Halo3, Forza2, PGR4, etc...

PS3 has Resistance, which had plenty of dull moments but had some incredible sights as well. There's stuff in there which is beyond anything in Gears of War but it's not consistent. Moments of greatness does not count for too much. I'd say the most consistently good graphics on PS3 seem to be drake. The lighting, shadows, animation, geometry all seem beyond anything available on consoles. Top of the line PCs have Crysis, which is even more breath-taking.

[harpua]

"There's stuff in there which is beyond anything in Gears of War"

resistance was a launch title as well...but Gears is still the top game graphics wise.

[Howler9443]

As owner of both a PS3 and a 360, I would like to know what the real issues are. I see all sorts of speculation as to why the 360 version is better than the PS3 version, and honestly, I really don't care, I just buy the version thats better, even though they "should" be rather identical.

What I would like to know is, why Naughty Dog, Kojima, and Insomniac and the COD4 team have engines that really seem to work and work well. Granted, Uncharted and MGS4 have yet to prove themselves in the market place. Previews of those games seem really positive.

The vast majority of the games that are delayed are based on the Unreal III engine. I would like to know what the issues are. Rainbow 6: Vegas uses this engine and is out on both platforms and seems like a very similar experience on both platforms from what I've seen and played.

Yes, the PS3 is more difficult to code for, but when you use a common engine there should (in theory) be minimal issues.

Another question I have with regards to the Unreal III engine is (or any third party engine that is used to make games for both the 360 and PS3), is there parity between the 360 version and the PS3 version? Does the PS3 version feature for feature the same as the 360 version? Logic says it should, but often the real world is a lot different.

I'm not slamming any console, dev or engine, I really would just like to know the technical challenges that are involved in implementing various third party engines on the 360 and PS3. To me some of this just doesn't make sense. If you develop a game for the 360 you should be able to use a lot of the same assets for the PS3. You should be able to use the same textures, models, etc, and I know that in general they do. With that said, why do some of the games showing up on the PS3 not have textures that look as good as on the 360 when they "should" be the same texture?

It just seems that the delays and issues are all surrounded in a shroud of mystery that really doesn't need to be there. I would love for a PS3 dev and a 360(multiplat) dev to give us the scoop on these challenges. For both going from PS3->360 and from 360->PS3.

[etownone]

the 360's hardware is developer friendly because its like a PC, also because it has the 512 memory as a whole... also MUCH easier to port to computer so any game made for 360 can also be bought over to PC easily.

the ps3 with its advanced cell, developer kits aren't too great, and the memory split in two.... all combined make its ALOT harder to develop for and ALOT harder to port to PC or 360

now i'm no expert, but i am a gamer, and I have read these reasons repeated time and time again

[Howler9443]

Thanks, I understand the architectural differences. It seems to me that the issues are more severe than just memory management.

The 360 is more developer friendly because creating development tools is one of Microsoft's core competencies. Just as slick hardware is Sony's core competency.

I understand this aspect. Again, I just think there is something more than discrete video, and shared memory, etc that is the real issue and thats what I am getting at.

Memory and storage issues have work arounds that should not push a product back by months. Push backed? Yes. Months at a time? No.

Ken Kutaragi was the hardware guy at Sony, Kaz Hirai is the software guy (at least thats what I remember reading about Kaz). I would be really interested in seeing the initial release of the dev tools for the PS3 versus the latest and greatest.

[DJ]

The reason there’s two type of memory in PS3 is because there’s two different Processors with very different bandwidth and latency requirements. The 360 is using GPU memory (high latency) for both the CPU and GPU, and this is actually a very unique challenge. PS3 is closer to a PC in that both processors run off of their respective memory banks without intruding into each other’s memory bandwidth.

The problem with PCs is that there’s very little connection speed between the CPU and GPU; Sony solved this problem by creating a dedicated 35GB/s connection between Cell and RSX.

Microsoft tried to solve this problem by having the CPU and GPU in the 360 run on the same memory bandwidth line, which actually hinders performance. While Cell and RSX have 80GB/s of bandwidth to use for memory access and CPU-to-GPU communication (and vice versa since Cell does GPU functions), Xenon and Xenos use one 20GB/s connection for the exact same functions.

The main issue with using GPU memory for a CPU (such as in the 360’s case) is that it’s high latency, while CPUs require low-latency memory.

[Howler9443]

Thanks for the responses. However, I think that the point of my questions has really been missed here.

I am not asking why the memory is discrete on the PS3 and shared on the 360 or anything like that.

What I am asking is what are the technical issues that the devs are having with the PS3 and to a lesser extent the 360.

I hear a lot about the 360 being a lot like a PC. I strongly disagree with this as I've never seen an IBM Power processor with tripple cores implanted onto a PC motherboard with shared graphics memory, up and running in the PC world. If I'm wrong, I would be really interested in seeing this beast as I think it would probably make a rather interesting Linux box ;-) There are several other reasons that I disagree but thats beyond the scope of this post.

What makes the 360 easier for devs are the 360 developer kits. Microsoft (love 'em or hate 'em) makes some pretty robust tools. Being able to take the code developed for a DX9 game and basically make some adjustments and recompile on the PC (Yes, I know there is a LOT more to it than that) is a lot easier than taking a proprietary dev kit and porting to the PC. Anyway, I don't wish to digress too much further on this.

Again, what are the issues that multi-platform devs are running into with the PS3 versions of the games and why do these issues seem to revolve the Unreal III engine?

Just for the record, I expect differences and issues with going from PS3 to 360 and vice-versa. Thats just the nature of the beast. But the issues cited on many occasions, limited memory for the PS3 and storage issues for the 360, would seem to have workarounds at this stage of the game.

I get the distinct impression that "memory" and "storage" space issues, while very real are also potentially a cover for more serious issues. Its those issues that I am interested in. Basically, I want the real nitty-gritty dirty details as to why something like Unreal III engine is having a tough time on the PS3 when Ubisoft Rainbow 6:Vegas seems to work so well. Is it in how the devs are modding the engine? Does the engine for the 360 support features that the PS3 version doesn't?

It also occurs to me that if these issues were truly that serious that they would be caught earlier on in the development cycle. These guys are pros and I can assure you that they are quite familiar with unit testing.

I would really just like to know.

[snoopgg]

All you xbots always call out these multiplatform games in which the 360 looks better then the ps3, but when the ps3 games look better then 360's, then graphics aren't everything or don't mean a thing. As long as the game is fun it doesn't matter right? Halo 3 didn't have ground breaking graphics, yet all those 360 bots still are having fun with it and calling it one of the best games ever. You have to ask yourselves do graphics mean everything, the wii would beg to differ with you and I do to. I mean who even plays fighters anymore anyway. You can have your better looking vfighter, while I will be playing Killzone 2 which will destroy anything on the 360 up to date.

[etownone]

again...another sony fan waiting...waiting for the next great game to come. KZ2 looks great, but lets see some more and reviews before we make assumptions.

shame on you for comparing halo to kz2. Halo has the best gameplay and online play, and a great story with graphics to match. Halo has proven itself 3 times!! KZ1 was a FLOP, so just keep hoping kid.

remember what happen with Lair. haha

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

Yeah, go ahead and wait. Meanwhile, Ill go play Gears.

[karlostomy]

But seriously, the way it's going, it won't matter by the time it comes out. Wait wait wait. Didn't they show a trailer for this game in 2005? By xmas 08 cutting edge Gaming hardware will have superseded itself twice over again and the graphics of KZ2 won't be blowing anyone away anymore...

Remember Gears came out in 2006. It blew all away because it was unprecedentedly good at a time when it mattered. By xmas 2008 how many goodlooking games like it will we have? probably lots...

KZ2 will just be one more...

In general, technology is always moving and the longer we wait the less impressive is last gen hardware.

So, for that reason, why not just be quiet about KZ2 until it actually is released/reviewed?

[SIX]

I have it for my PS3. I'm gonna go trade it and get this version though because of the on line aspect. The slightly better graphics is a bonus :)

[xg-ei8ht]

This is a different version, Version c of the updated sega board.

Thats why it is different from the ps3 version, ask anyone who works for sega.

The newer version, has more outfits,bonuses,etc.

Its a decent fight game, but its nothing new tbh.

If your waiting for a graphic jump, Look no further then UNCHARTED. Has the best use of lighting,textures,normal mapping. HDR.

It alone is a reason to buy PS3.

And what about the other thread, NYT stated R&C is just not possible on any other hardware, its too pixar like.:)

[jazzmanb]

the 360 is the more powerful hardware..duh..everybody in their right mind realizes this already..did you know that naughty dog had to strip out all the advanced lighting,and shaders from the unreal engine to get uncharted to run on the ps3 hardware..this is not bs,and if they ported that game to a pc or 360,imagine what the lighting would do..dont believe me? look at all the videos and screen shots,and look cloesly at the lack of any realtime lighting,or any lighting for that matter..though halo3 runs in 640p it uses a lighhting engine so realistic its scary..this is the stuff that really shows off the next gen capablities.

[Howler9443]

Please list a credible source for your information. I've not seen anything that indicates that Uncharted uses the Unreal III engine or that they have stripped things out.

If this is true, please quote a credible source other than, "look at all the videos and screen shots,and look cloesly at the lack of any realtime lighting,or any lighting for that matter." Its pretty much impossible to determine if a a piece of hardware (no matter its lineage) is rendering anything in realtime from a still screenshot. Perhaps from video, but I kinda doubt that most of us are expert enough to tell between real time lighting and clever tricks (that are not real time lighting)

Please just post me a link to the source and I would be more than happy to read it.

Thanks!

[jazzmanb]

killzone doesnt even have its own legs to stand on...game engine looks drab as all hell,though there are realistic blurring to hide the real engine and drab textures...i dont blame guerilla for the graphics though,there having to build a game on the ps3,which quite honestly wasnt desighned with developers on mind..i do however blame guerilla for the terrible gameplay that well go along with the drab graphics...seriously you ps3 guys sure are fubby,just buy a 360 then talk..

[Says you]

Kicks the crap out of this game version considering there just a full load of lies this is not even close to being any different the graphics dont even look any superior at all and they know it just because its on the ps3 they have to make up some kind of lie to make it seem a little bit better on that piece of that! crappy console.

[Says you]

Kicks the crap out of this game version considering there just a full load of lies this is not even close to being any different the graphics dont even look any superior at all and they know it just because its on the ps3 they have to make up some kind of lie to make it seem a little bit better on that piece of that! crappy console.

[jackdoe]

With the incredibly obvious fanboy opening to their VF 5 review and their incredibly tasteless breast cancer feature, I am sick of Gamesradar. Seems like all they are trying to do is generate hits for their site.

[Judge Mental]

I own a PS3, and I give props to the 360 for improving this title. They did a great job and deserve credit.

So far the 360 is the superior machine. The 360 has superior development tools that software developers can fully utilize. They have been using many of the same tools for years, So using them is second nature to many of the developers.

The PS3 strengths truly lie in the hardware itself. The tools that are so abundant for the 360 are no so for the PS3. It takes much more time to develop the same quality games for the PS3 as it does for the xbox. You have to remember, developers are creating the tools they need as they go. It really could take years to fully utilize the maximum potential of the Cell.

The simply truth is, the Xbox developers are asked to build a house. They are supplied all the tools (hammers, nails, saws..). The PS3 developers are given the same task without any tools at all. Who will build the better house?

Ok, now you can flame on...

[wageslave]

Not a flame, but "The PS3 strengths truly lie in the hardware itself. "

Is the untrue part.

The two machines are roughly the same in hardware "power". But, as you said, the difference shines through in the development environments. There, one firm's offering rises above the other.

[Awesomeo3000]

they had a long time to make this game after the ps3 version i would hope to god theyd make it look better for their sake i didnt think the game looked that great in the first place anyway but to come here and say this game is proof that the 360 is the more powerful system is just ignorant keep living in that dream world

[Mwaan]

When Virtua Fighter went playstation exclusive, all you ever heard about was how awesome Virtua Fighter was. It was pronounced the best fighter on the planet. When it was announced for 360, playstation owners swore up and down that it wouldn't make the transition to xbox. It would have downgraded graphics and less content because of disc space. Well, here it is. Better graphics, more content, and online play. My point is, 360 can do anything PS3 can do and vice versa. I can't help but hate a group of people who don't want me to have great games on the system I prefer. It doesn't bother me one bit that PS3 owners have Ninja Gaiden, Oblivion, and now Lost Planet. I'm glad they get to play those great games and I'm glad the developers get even more money for their hard work. There's a way around every limitation for both systems and watching you guys bicker like this makes me ashamed to call myself a gamer.

[CrazzyMan]

developers just didn`t have enough time for optimizing game. =)
they could release VF5 on PS3 this month, and the game also would be perfect and with online. =)
Probably even better then x360 version. =)

anyway, there definetely will be VF5:evolution on PS3, with improved graphics and online.
Don`t worry, be happy. =)

all what is needed for PS3 is time, you can`t wait, go for x360, those who wait on ps3, they know what they wait for. ;)

[hadouken007]

how can these hard core xbox folks see if it's better if there here,geez u came even come on here without seeing these wars go on,i thought the comments were for letting other players knows to spend there hard earned dollars on if the games crap or not.? they act as if there sleeping with mr. bill gates and they have to defend there lover.

[Mujo]

Just so you know :P
EA haven't made Battlefield(A swedish company named Dice made it)
They haven't made The sims (Maxis made that i believe)
They haven't made crysis (Crytek is making that)
They haven't made Burnout either (Criterion made that)

So basically the only games EA makes is Sports and movie games ... Witch ppl buy so they get ass loads of money and they buy all other companies :P xD

Now about the actuall topic ...
I want a movie compering the both versions! :P

[FirstknighT]

So a game that was developed on the "powerful" ps3 first comes out on the 360 and beats it in graphics, AI, and gameplay. Another victory for the 360 and another loss for the ps3.

[gamehendge]

"Another victory for the 360 and another loss for the ps3."

and i guess your life has bottomed out to the point where this matters?

[UltramanJ]

That would imply that guys like Firstknight have a life to begin with.
It's staggering how many brand loyalist lemming are on this site. newsflash: multiconsole ownership > single console ownership

[367 To Your Ass]

they must have had 360 in mined when the ps3 version was made.

ps3 has had a bad history of bad ports. so far 360 has not.

"hmph" After seeing this, porting from ps3 to 360 doesn't look like it's going to stop.

and as for ps3's exclusive's they don't look like mile stones for the 360.

360's Mass effect
http://media.xbox360.ign.co...

PS3's Heavenly sword
http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...

[DJ]

Not sure why you're hating on it...

[sicknnyc]

The facial animation in HS beats anything Its a Fact touted in the Gaming world! Also MASS EFFECT IS FOR !!!NERDS!!!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The PS3 has had so many ouchy's it's become a festering wound

[harpua]

I'll take scratched discs, RROD and 1 billion warranty loss for 300 Alex.

[ALMIGHTYPS3]

Yeah and,who are they??Whatever gives you tools a confidence builder,kudos to you.You will definitely be needing it!

PS3> COD4,UT3....

Aint no sunshine when he's gone> master chief

[UltramanJ]

Yeah man!11!1 I downloaded the demo and compared it frame for frame against my PS3 version and I swear Ryu had better hair textures!1!11 The PS3 version is totally pwn3d with it's sucky graphix!11111111!!!!!111!

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

i really hope that you all dont believe that garbage about the 180 can do anything that the ps3 can do, cause that just isnt in any way a fact, a pc of any kind cant manipulate anything the ps3 can do, and it aint just blue ray, do you know how many polygons some ps3 games have?

if we were going by polygons, ps3 has several games that no other platforms can do, other than in a cg cutscene form:

killzone 2- i can assure you there are billions of polygons onscreen atonce, and the game was again mistaken as pre-rendered and a cg cutscene

wardevil- CG ingame

Final Fantasy 13- billions of polygons onscreen, seemless gameplay/cg engine ingame

same with versus

Ratchet and clank- only pixar movie ingame, and cg game currently out and comming out

Uncharted- no chance of being done out of a cutscene without cell, Rsx, and blue ray

GT5-destroys any, and i mean ANY game graphically

and there are tech demos that kill all games

just wait til more killzone footage is released, for all 180 and pc games to be torn down very VERY hard

[DFresh]

I don't know what they guys are talking about the PS3 is the most graphically superior game console available
proof only console to play in 1080p
that's a hands down winner right there

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

console=not ps3

supercomputer game machine/media hub=ps3

[ASTAROTH]

as you xbox fanatics say this review isnt reliable at all. Its biased based on the fact that its a 360 site. 1up is more reliable?? YEAH RIGTH... anyways the game is great and better than the PS3 version not for the fact that the graphics are sligthy improved but for the online portion of the game.

360 fanatics alway complain that PS3 fans always used Oblivion as an example for graphic superiority. At least in oblivion the difference is obious. Not it VF5. You have to really look meticulously to really see the graphics improvements. ive played both version and (alliasing problems aside) the only REAL improvement is online play.

The point of everybody here is a little relative. The 360 version was in development more time and the 360 is supposed easier to develop so we at least expect better anti alliasing. The PS3 version of some games are in development often more time than the 360 version, in a difficult to progran console sometime the results arent optimal. When a game like Oblivion shows 360 fanatics said that if the 360 version receive the same amount of development time it will look eqaual. SAME WITH VF5. So no real improvement to me.

Also I hate reviewers nowadays. If the PS3 version of a game came later than the 360 version they take points because they already enjoyed the game. When its the 360 the score is higher...My God...and they said they are not biased...my a$$.

Also guys an example of a game looking better with more dev time on the game console is VF4 Evo for the PS2. Compare it to VF4. Evo has better lightning, better animations and antialiasing...SO FANATICS a BETTER VF5 game on the 360 doesnt prove anything rigth now. Rigth now there is a KIDDIE game on the market that is the BEST graphical showcase of this gen. For any fanatic that doesnt believe that Ratchet and Clank has set the marks graphically ( and are still believing that Gears is the best graphical showcase) do yourself a favor and play the DAMN game...60fps pixar quality madness. Its to kiddie?? so why the hell are you hipocrites playing games?? FANATICS...

[midgard229]

i will say that it shud if it took 10 months more to be released *shrugz who cares we played the game mad long ago, i wont ever touch that game again anyway lol

ps3 and 360 rock anyway

[wageslave]

Does anyone know if VF5 on PS3 is in 702p like R&C?

[Ri0tSquad]

NA PS3 version - 720p
JP PS3 version - 720p, 1080i, 1080p upscaled supposedly
NA 360 version - 720p upscaled 1080p more then likely

R & C runs at 60fps at 720p & 1080i.

[paracardium]

Um gratz?? What the chicks lipstick is more shiny or they made them more plasticy?

[thereapersson]

1.4 = pot calling kettle BLACK!

Unlike yourself, Razer, I can accept gaming on all systems. However, I can't freaking believe all the negativity and hatred contained in this thread. Seriously, it's like all the fanboy rage over a console is simply erupting because of this!

[SofaKingReetodded]

for Assassins Creed and Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 making their versions look like they were done with crayons.

[harv052]

Fanboys are still using the same f**king lame excuses...You motherf**kers will have to find new ones...And that goes for ALL camps!!!

[bloodzombie77]

Jeez, all I'm hearing is "better shadows" this and "PS3 sucks" that....anybody ever thought of getting the f*ck offline and actually playing their games?

[caffman]

if you don't have a 360 why do you care? If you don't have PS3 why do you care?
JUST PLAY THE GAME AND ENJOY IT!

[AliC]

There is enough flaming in here it could melt the icecaps

[solidt12]

Well I was done with this game months ago and even if it had online on the PS3 I still would of moved on to another game by then. It's nice that the 360 has online but really, there are too many other good games this month on both systems to even care about this game anymore.

[SofaKingReetodded]

on the PS3 waves hi to all you turd swallowers. Keep self congratulatory circle jerk going, it's ALL you have left. Enjoy a game that I fund boring for the lack of characters and venues in which to fight in.

Tekken 5:DR ONLINE!!!!! beats the crap out of this turd any day. I traded the PS3 version monthssssss ago. LMAO

[Danielson]

man console owners never stop b!tching, jeez give it a break, seriously

[VaNdAl]

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

[VaNdAl]

AM2 Interview http://games.kikizo.com/fea...

[Gamer13]

Its good to have a 360.

[Jones Miller]

surprised.

[bison812]

I have said this many many time. Why can we not play the game we need some scrubs to tell us what game we should play. We allow people to choose what system we should play, and what game we should play.

I think this is a bad thread. We should be talking about the great games that have and are coming out this year. We are talking about VF5 which looks good on the PS3 and 360.

You guys should really learn more about gaming and just play what you like and dont try to support these types of threads.

[THE_JUDGE]

has the best fighting game, Tekken, so who the f*ck cares about this one!