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MAG is Dead

The PlayStation Show takes a look at the life of MAG. MAG once the ground breaking Massively Online Shooter is now just a corpse of its once glory.

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ediddy9994819d ago

I love MAG and I play it for an hour a day just like exercise. Get that happy hour XP and I'm out.

BakedGoods4819d ago

Anytime I play MAG there's tons of people going at it. Never hard to get into a game. Lots of people on my friends list play hard too.

XMBeaner4819d ago

If by tons you mean an every shrinking couple of hundred I completely agree with you. Face it MAG is dead, Zipper is moving on and you should too.

BakedGoods4819d ago

Fair enough. KZ3 is phenomenal, hopefully SOCOM will (finally) be decent.

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Rynx4819d ago

Troll article is troll

oh and also XMBeaner

MysticStrummer4819d ago

@BakedGoods - Agreed. I play most days and never wait long to get in a game. MAG is not dead at all. @XMBeaner - An every shrinking couple of hundred... what does that even mean? Trolls shouldn't use Google Translate. There are still thousands of people on MAG whenever I play, which is often. MAG didn't get the audience it deserves, but it's far from dead and no FPS with less than 64 players in a game is going to kill it.

Commander_TK4819d ago

The community fucking ruined this game.

ngecenk4819d ago

funny cos i just had minor defeat on domination. full team on my team.

ChozenWoan4819d ago

funny as I just finished playing a few rounds... must have been just my imagination.

DEagle-izer4819d ago

@XMBeaner

I got 2 words for ya!

U MAD?

NewMonday4819d ago

Maybe they stretched things a bit by making it 3 factions, maybe they should have made the player character and his unlocks independent from factions like in Battlefield and COD.

BattleAxe4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

MAG might not be dead, but its not exactly thriving. It was a neat idea, but 256 players was too ambitious. I think people would have been blown away even if they had of made the game with 100 player matches in mind. The one thing I wish they had more of are the vehicles.

DaCajun4819d ago

Granted MAG is a really good game but when you get on and there is no more than around 2000-3000 at any one time that is not a very thriving community especially when we need 256 people for the domination maps. It's just the last few die hards that play it now and a few new stragglers that happen to have bought it in the discount bin.

Hopefully they are working on MAG 2 and give us more maps and a larger variety of game modes next time. They can start by including all the game modes that MAG has now including the patched in ones. Imagine if we could have all the Batllefield games vehicles(tanks, jeeps, ATVs, helicopters, jets, APCs) all player controlled on MAG maps or larger, that would be intense.

LordRydell4819d ago

MAG is not a bad game...It's great,but hard to play solo!You have to be a member of a pretty skilled squad to make it through the game modes! :/

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malandra4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

oh no!! when did it die?? I was playing yesterday with hundreds of people, I couldn't say goodbye, this is so sad

morons

-Alpha4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

No it's not, but it's such a demanding game. There are a good amount of players but since games requires so many players, it's easy to see that the game itself requires a fairly huge population to get a diversity of games going.

The DLC is an example of a mode that is so seldom played.

You also have all players split into three factions. This is why they eventually opened up the ability to play all three factions at once.

I think if numbers get really low Zipper could unite the community at the cost of removing the concept of joining a PMC.

Last time I checked Domination is still full, but there are only enough players on the servers in that mode to fill one game of Domination. Sometimes I end up having to wait for a game or doing the auto-deploy thing that grants you higher XP.

Fans are moving on and the community is rather small for the demand, but it's certainly not "Dead" It's rather just a demanding game

Nicaragua4819d ago

MAG is not dead but it lost me after a couple of months due to some poor design choices.

mac_sparrow4819d ago

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!

FFXI1014819d ago

@ Alpha

Were you playing Killzone 3 couple nights ago?
I saw someone's name is exactly same as yours.

Dark_king4819d ago

@FFXI101 yea that would be him his PSN is the same as his user name here.

roguewarrior4818d ago

agreed, MAG lives, but both the DLC is fucked, especially because i usually play 12 to 6am est, just not enough people in the queue. still bought escalation just to support zipper only got to play it a few times.

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Andreas-Sword4819d ago

MAG is the best online Multiplayer Shooter!

Andreas-Sword4818d ago

@ 8thnightvolley

yes, seriously!
MAG is a very funny first person shooter! One of the best online Multiplayer Shooter!

ThanatosDMC4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

I wonder if there's anybody on N4G that's better than me in MAG. I doubt it. Yep, it's a challenge.

BlackTar1874819d ago

Good i would love to have played you is it tuff when your that full of yourself ;)

anyways any other games you want to declare yourself the best at that i may still play?

anyways lol im just having fun not trying to be anything other the smirky in my post.

ChozenWoan4819d ago

If I had to choose someone who I think is a better player than you.... hmmm... then I would have to go with this guy I know named Chozenwoan from Raven: Intel Assassins.

don't get me wrong... your still good, but he is the Chozenwoan.

FFXI1014819d ago

But I'll see you in SOCOM 4, is ON!!

Dark_king4819d ago

There sure is quite a few Mag players here better.Ive played with some great people from N4G.

ThanatosDMC4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

I'll add you guys up. I'm currently in Murder Survice [ <3] of Raven and [187] of Valor and we need more players who are killers/beasts in MAG. They're looking for more grims per hour.

Add me on PSN if i cant find your PS id: ThanatosDMC

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otherZinc4819d ago

MAG was terrible from Day 1.
It didn't have a single player? WTF?
What did people expect? And the game sucked!

BlackTar1874819d ago

Game was awesome unfortnatley i only could play DOM after awhile.

ut your a troll.

theonlylolking4819d ago

The game is work a 8.0 IMO. There is always at least 2,000 people on each non DLC game mode. Easily more than that on weekends.

FinalSpartan4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

wasn't it dead from the start? awful game. people who defending this please defend a good PS3 game.

76% Metacritc.

Ravenor4819d ago

You know that number is in no way indicative of how much fun I had with the game. Reviews are references, not some kind of absolute truth that applies to all people.

Also for the love of Jebus, would you people try playing a game before passing judgement based on some percentage that really means nothing except for the importance you put in that number? Is this really that hard?

specialguest4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

Only a 9 and up is a buy, anything around 8 is an okay game(some cases a failure), around the 7 is awful.

the_best_player4819d ago

Less dead than theplaystationshow.com LOL!

ATiElite4819d ago

Oh no!! First PC Gaming, now Mag is dead. What could be next!

I love how editors write about stuff they have no knowledge about. I guess since the editor only play Blops that everything else is dead or doesn't exist.

Just like the only ppl that say PC Gaming is dead are the ones who don't have gaming PC's.

ChronoJoe4818d ago

He highlights the dlc maps, in to suggest it's dead. Yep no one plays them. Like 1/10 of consumers purchase DLC and even less play it when the higher population is without, DLC.

mr.selfdestruct4818d ago

Thats why I really wish they would add bots to maps that don't fill up. Its better than waiting forever for a game to not start. Then simply allow people to jump in to take the bots place when available.

solar4818d ago

not really suprised. the shelf life for a console online game isnt that long. limited library along with new titles released i can see why.

BoNeSaW234818d ago

I loved MAG(Notice past tense)I want to check it out again now that acquisition and domination are neutral but the updates are SLOWWWWW! I have a 7mbps locked connection but the patches still take a long time to download. Why Zipper?
MAG 2.0 should of been the retail version IMO. I loved everything about 2.0 and Sony should have pushed it as MAG Final and released it as FREE to ALL PSN+ subscribers if they wanted MAG to survive, add more players and a great incentive to subscribe to PLUS. Better luck with SOCOM4 Zipper, the ride was fun while it lasted

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solidsnake2224819d ago

I don't know, although I'm not a hardcore MAG player I know someone who plays it all the time. In fact, it's one of the only games he plays!

ediddy9994819d ago

I remember when I was like that. Those were the good old days. It's just not the same anymore :( None of my friends play it. I think they hate fun.

XMBeaner4819d ago

The only people that hate fun are the people still playing MAG. How about playing a good game like Killown 3!

pocketaces114819d ago

@XMBeaner don't be like those xbox fanboys we don't need your kind over here with the PS3 they are both great games yes less people playing MAG but still a very good game for year old one and KZ 3 although also a great game still has it's glitches or fails of it's own. The storey and game play has not kept me AS captivated as the 2nd did.

Sarcasm4819d ago

lol ediddy, you guys are the new hiphopgamer, sensational headlines for hits. I bet this is Hamster's idea isn't it! Keep up the good work. LOL

A LIVING LEGEND4819d ago

KZ2.5 has 32v32+?
MAG layed the groundwork,these things take time.

tony67674819d ago

kz2.5? lol more like call of duty modern warfare 2.5(black ops)

badz1494819d ago

BlOPs is more like MW1.5! yeah, it degrades lower that MW2!

karl4819d ago

are u guys joking?

black ops its like call of duty 11!!!!

yes, we have that many and counting... jesus

Commander_TK4819d ago

MW2 sucks dick. Black Ops is way better. COD4 shits on both though.

spunnups4819d ago

I hated at certain points of a game, when you die, it's a full minute run back to the battle field, no it doesn't happen the entire game, but when it does, it's annoying as hell. Big Turn Off.

-Alpha4819d ago (Edited 4819d ago )

Stick with your team. Did you run off on your own?

What was great about MAG was that I was constantly healed when I stuck with my squad.

In fact, the whole concept of the spawn system made sure that you were never alone.

It's the best teamwork game I've played, the community is super cooperative and so long as you don't try to be some hero you usually do well when sticking with squads. Especially when you start playing you are disadvantaged when it comes to what you have unlocked. Finding shelter in your teammates created an excellence sense of teamwork and it is something noob players pass on to other noob players once they get better.

DelbertGrady4819d ago

They should have borrowed squad spawn from BF BC 2.

Nicaragua4819d ago

That would negate the need to have medics on your team.

TROLOLOLOL4819d ago

It doesn't negate the need to have a medic in bad company 2 so why should it In mag? In fact being a medic in BC2 is very rewarding in itself. Not only does it make you feel like your actually in a proper squad, you get shit loads of XP for it aswell. So as long as your squad is within a certain range of you, I think squad spawning would be quality!

MysticStrummer4819d ago

Any game that allows you to spawn to your squad loses much if not all of it's claim to being tactical, imo. I prefer the old school Socom method... die and you spectate for the rest of the round. No team based tactical FPS or TPS should allow you to spawn to your squad, unless it's in unranked games only.

TROLOLOLOL4819d ago

thats you opinion and i respect that. but i have to disagree with you. as long as squad spawning is balanced and doesnt encourage pswn killing, squad spanwing can lead to many differant tactics IMO.

Ravenor4819d ago

By tactics you mean hide in a building so your squad can magically spawn on you.

Only thing thats tactical is either, no respawns or Reinforcement waves. Spawn killing can easily be dealt with, without the need for something like Squad spawn.

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MAG was one of the most ambitious shooters ever and deserves a PS5 sequel

Zipper Interactive were once one of Sony's most important studios and became a household name due to their work on the SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs series during the PlayStation 2's heyday. Their most ambitious title was MAG. Could it make a comeback?

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yellowgerbil1564d ago

Best game ever. I had put over 1700hrs into that game before it deteriorated too far with cheaters getting out of the map and sadly decided it was time to let it die (Zipper had already been closed down by that time).

_SilverHawk_1564d ago

Amazing game. Hopefully sony makes a sequel

XisThatKid1564d ago

This is the game in modern gaming that even got me into shooters i spent literally days with this game Raven All the way. War against the the mighty D ride oh so edgy S.V.E.R.

NecrumOddBoy1564d ago

Original Battle Royale. No microtransactions. Definitely ahead of time.

XBox4eva691564d ago

It's almost as far from battle royale as you can get. o_O

frostypants1564d ago

It didn't have a BR mode.

Da12RespectA1564d ago

That wasn't a battle royale game at all.

rdgneoz31563d ago

3 teams of 32 fighting it out would be considered Battle Royaleish. If you're gonna saying teams are OK when you start doing teams of 2 or 3 or 4, then 32v32v32 should work. And on besides that, it had 128 v 128 which was insanely fun.

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Muzikguy1564d ago (Edited 1564d ago )

I personally hadn't played much of it. I did spend a lot of time in PlanetSide 2 though (somewhat like MAG). Games like these tend to get overrun by cheaters and then ruined too often.

Teflon021564d ago

MAG didn't have that issue as far as I remember. I use to love the 256 matches. That game had an amazing community. Everyone actually communicated and played together. No one B****ed at the team. Everyone understood there was so much going on that if things are going wrong. Everyone had to think of new strategies.
Fav moment was when all 3 other squads 32 took their objectives but we were struggling with ours and had one more to blow up. The other leaders were communicating asking if the 2 nearest squads should send ppl. Our leader was like Naw I got a idea. So he told us all to die and set ourselves at the nearest hills prone without being seen. So we all did and surrounded the areas.
He said everyone on his count throw your grenades. Then snipers go all out and everyone else run in. They won't be able to get everyone and if needed the snipers go in about 10 seconds after.

Everyone did that and I got to the objective and set it off. 9 of us survived and got it. felt amazing to say I got the objective, cover me in that moment. Wish it was PS4 so I could have saved that moment
It was literally the coolest moment I had in a online shooter, closest since was BF4.

Muzikguy1564d ago

@Teflon

That does indeed sound like an awesome moment. One that makes games like these memorable for sure. It does seem like MAG had a lot more cooperation than most any online shooter

Teflon021564d ago

It did because you absolutely can't get no where in it without teamwork. It also didn't have an extremely big base of players. Everyone who played really wanted to play. I really hope they bring it back and do the same thing to only have serious players get into the big matches again

UltraNova1564d ago

Wow, what a run! This game looks better than PUBG!

Muzikguy1564d ago

Watching that video you wouldn't think the game was on PS3.

Spenok1564d ago

I adored this game too. Some of my best FPS online memories on it. So freaking good.

I'd love to see another game like this come out at some point. And NOT like Planetside... M.A.G. was something special.

yellowgerbil1564d ago

Yeah problem is if it existed now adays, it would likely be riddled with xp boosts and dance moves and all that other pay garbage...
MAG and Warhawk are the only 2 online games I ever got into, and both need a PROPER sequel on PS5.
Remember the first time I got 100 kills in a match, was in a turret with a repair kit and just mowed down wave after wave on Valors map.

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PrinceOfAnger1564d ago

I had so much fun with this game

TGGJustin1564d ago

This is a game that was ahead of its time. Had it came out on PS4 it would've done much better. I put hundreds of hours into this despite the problems it had on PS3.

UnholyLight1564d ago

Really interesting as an Xbox owner at the time. This game had captured my interest as a kid but I never got a chance to play it. Being on PS4 and soon possibly PS5, I would love to see this franchise brought back to life. I imagine with the power of next gen it would be really quite fun.

From what I hear and what I remember, this game was FAR ahead of it's time. A real shame it never truly took off from my understanding.

grifter0241564d ago

I'm an xbox boy since mech warrior but got a ps3 slim for mag. If you liked halo or cod you'd have had a blast in mag. Was one of the first games you could actually do something other than shooting and still make a difference in game.

spicelicka1563d ago

PS4 needs something like it. In the multiplayer space it's far behind the Xbox, there are no quality multiplayer games on it that aren't on other consoles.

Dirtnapstor1564d ago

Yes, yes, and yes. Way ahead of it's time. Would love to see a PS5 variant of this game.

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Modern Warfare Ground War mode has MAG vibes

Erina Rose, Sausage Roll writes, "Call of Duty: Modern War introduced a new, improved, Ground War game mode this weekend that reminds us of the old PlayStation 3 classic, MAG."

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ilikestuff1689d ago (Edited 1689d ago )

I never played mag, I did play this beta however, and if mag was like this beta then (fart noises) for mag.

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TheGamez1001689d ago

Man do I miss mag and zipper.

TheSinsibleOne1689d ago

Seriously though. Nowadays this and next gen are practically begging for a new MAG.

zodiac9091689d ago

How did we go from having games like resistance 1, 2, warhawk with 30 vs 30 player battles, and M.A.G. with 128 vs 128 players, ON LAST GEN to now having 20 vs 20...such a step back.

JEECE1689d ago

Because Sony hadn't figured out how to market their exclusives yet. Plus at that time COD craze was at its peak. So "generic high school bro #7," who was the primary purchaser of FPSs at that time (or at least represented a crowd necessary to sustain a playerbase), if he even had a PS3, would have just seen a game like MAG as a "copycat of Black Ops, man."

Not to mention MAG was pretty terribly uninviting for new people after awhile, because it was more skill-based. This was great for veterans, but if you weren't willing to put in the time getting destroyed for awhile, you would never appreciate the game. The Battlefield: Bad Company and BF:3 games out during that gen were far more accessible to lower level players.

Vegamyster1689d ago

Battlefield 4 was at the start of the generation and had 64 players, to me it depends more on how the map/gameplay is utilized, i enjoyed the 20vs20 modes more in the MW Beta than the 64 player ground war mode.

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moomoo3191689d ago

It feels absolutely nothing like MAG lol. Way more battlefield vibes

xX-oldboy-Xx1689d ago

And even those are very small vibes, it still feels like COD at the end of the day.

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MAG: The Greatest Game You Never Played

Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out and most of you probably never heard of it, never got to play it and never will.

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FiLTHY ESKiMO1809d ago

Who would the next gen version nor that Zippers gone?

_SilverHawk_1808d ago

I remember this game and it was amazing. I would like it if Sony would make another one because this game was ahead of it's time.

RememberThe3571807d ago

It was an amazing concept and it was a cool game, it was just ahead of it's time. I played the sh!t outta MAG, but the game itself played just okay. I'd love to have seen a sequel, even just a spiritual successor, especially with the next gen coming and the way cloud computing has advanced a game like that nowadays would be awesome.

Elwenil1807d ago

It may have been amazing if you played for SVER, but if you played for Raven or Valor, it was an unbalanced mess. I had some fun with it, but the player count was an illusion at best and false advertising at it's worst. The map and faction balance was so ridiculously skewed you knew who was going to win as soon as you saw what team you were against. It definitely had some interesting ideas, but was far from an amazing experience in my opinion. I would have much rather Zipper have made another SOCOM game rather than MAG.

darthv721807d ago

that game would make for a great battle royale release. So many players all at once... it was ahead of its time for a console shooter.

TheGamez1001808d ago

Was such an underrated game. One of my most favorite fps of last gen. So unfortunate zipper was closed down. Imagine if it was a success and thered be a 2nd game by now.....

TekoIie1808d ago (Edited 1808d ago )

I can think of many better games that I've yet to play...

"Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out"

HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better. I'm afraid that MAG is basically your standard FPS but uses scale as it's selling point. The vast majority of shooters that focus on smaller scale matches have gameplay leaps and bounds better than MAG so it is definitely not the greatest FPS.

I know many people are going to try and refute this by telling me to look at the three factions but MAG has literally no character. The game is call 'Massive. Action. Game' for gods sake which is a contender for 'The Worst Title a Game Could Have' award. I've never been a fan of Zipper but I hear great things about them from their PS2 days. However, with MP gaining popularity in the generation that followed I think it says a lot that they couldn't keep up with the competition.

Knushwood Butt1808d ago

'HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better.'.

It was released years later.

Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?

TekoIie1808d ago

"Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?"

Yes, Planetside 1.

Knushwood Butt1808d ago

Fair enough.

Can't say I've played it, but I enjoyed MAG for a while.

FantasticBoss1807d ago

MAG was one of the very few games trying to do scale like it did, but I think it missed the mark. Wish it could have had a sequel though as they may have been able to iterate on it to create something pretty neat.

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Profchaos1807d ago

Sony had a awesome approach to online in the PS2 days with SOCOM co op that had games working together to achieve a tactical goal they pioneered voice chat on the PS2 for SOCOM but as they steamrolled ahead it was clear team Deathmatch would take over in popularity which shifted zippers approach so all their experience amounted for not much when designing online in the PS3 era.
It still was a decent game but couldn't stand out compared to cod which had millions of players consistently

yellowgerbil1808d ago

Loved mag had over 1700hrs into it across many accounts, remember my first 100 kill sabotage game, was insane

BLow1807d ago

Yes, so do I and not that game they released on PS3. I'm talking the one Zipper did and not Slant Six. At least Slant Six tried to do the series justice once they fixed the issues.

The one Zipper did didn't feel like Socom to me. It felt more like Ghost Recon to be honest. I absolutely loved the voice commands and I figured they would be even better on next gen hardware. They didn't even bother doing anything.

Maybe, I just wanted it more grounded and not so techy if that makes sense. I just wanted to go into jungles or missions just using my wits and patience and not have to use a bunch of gadgets. I wanted to be able to give orders with my voice to squad members. Yeah, they can at least have earpieces lol.

It's hard to explain but I know the old school Socom players know what I'm saying. Socom just had a certain feeling and the new game didn't feel that way. Slant Six yes. Zipper no...

We can only hope but if they bring it back they have to do it right. If not don't bother and just make something new. I rather have the memories I had with Socom be mostly positive than negative. Unless you pull a God of War, don't bother lol.

I've already said too much but that goes to show how much I loved Socom. Especially 1 and 2.....

Deathdeliverer1807d ago (Edited 1807d ago )

Game was simply ahead of its time. If mag came out now with improved graphics people would be blown away. Back then people whined about the graphics even though it had players literally everywhere. It was several great games in one. Battlefield, Ghost Recon, and Call of duty.

Hungryalpaca1807d ago

What exactly was it ahead of its time in? Player count? Planetside released in 2003 and and played count per match was over 300.

xkvcq1807d ago (Edited 1807d ago )

The BETA for MAG was one of my fondest gaming moments. I was highly anticipating the start of the beta servers but I had school that day. I had started downloading it that morning as soon as it was available and just when it finished downloading I found out school was cancelled, last minute, because of weather. BEST. SNOW DAY. EVER. I played the beta all day, continuing to put off my homework :P

TekoIie1807d ago (Edited 1807d ago )

Well have I got news for you pal! Planetside 2 has been available for nearly 4 years on the PS4 and longer on PC and people still aren't blown away. Maybe the novelty of scale is actually overrated and people don't care as much about it which is why MAG failed when multiplayer shooters were at peak popularity during it's lifetime?

If you were blown away by 256 players in 2010 why would you not have been blown away by 1000 roughly 2-3 years later?

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