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Microsoft Welcome’s Geohot With Open Arms, Looking Forward To A WP7 Jailbreak

The guys behind the iPhone and most recent Sony PS3 jailbreaks are tired of the threats of lawsuits by Apple and Sony. The Geohot team has suggested that Microsoft Windows Phone 7 is the last bastion of hope.

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Op244848d ago

Moving to a company that won't mind a jailbreak huh? HA

blitz06234848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

Meh, they're probably gonna ask how he jailbroke the PS3. Simple as that

MintBerryCrunch4848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

that question would be directed at the failoverflow group....they are the ones who opened up the PS3 and made its security system vulnerable...plus if any programmers at MS watched the 40 minute video of how they did it, then they would have a better understanding of what happened than most of us on this site

and last time i checked geohot is one guy, not a group or team of hackers....they seem a little misinformed

NewMonday4848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

Dos W7P have an exclusive carrier? If not then this is pointless.

MintBerryCrunch4848d ago

^^^^

no its not, its on multiple carriers, same OS...just different phones that run it...its more of a competitor to Android imo than the Iphone OS...plus the Iphone will be coming to Verizon in the coming months as well...matter of taste...some will buy what they are used to, others will try something new imo

zag4848d ago

Chevron7 jailbroken the win7 phone but MS have also turned around and said they have to remove it or face being sued.

LORD-PHOENIX4848d ago

ms need all the publicity they can get for wp7 have you seen the sales figures?

its practically bombed,they wouldnt release numbers then released shipped numbers it was all a mess and ms got called out on it by engadget

FrankMcSpank4848d ago

If you mod your 360 so the fan runs better to keep it cooler so it prevents the RROD, Ms will still ban you. I can't believe this for one second. MS giving someone else freedom on their product? Not bloody likely.

Millah4848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

MS just wants publicity on WP7, simple as that. They've seen how much publicity the PS3 and iPhone jailbreaks get, and they want that spotlight. Problem is, the reason those two jailbreaks get so much publicity was because they are for two extremely popular products.

I think its funny MS is trying to act like they embrace hackers, "dev-creativity," etc. Well if that were the case, then WP7 would have been an open platform like Android from the get go. Same with the Xbox, so why are they so vicious against Xbox 360 hackers then? These very same hackers they supposedly are embracing.

Just MS being pathetic as usual. They want publicity for their new platform that has failed to gain any traction, despite their usual $500 million ad campaign.

I_find_it_funny4847d ago

WHY IS THIS POSTED AS NEW AGAIN?

Carlos_Irwin_Estevez4847d ago

lol MS are just desperate to get ppl talking about WP7 its a total flop.

lociefer4847d ago

its not to test his skills, but to boost sales on their phone

PS3pwnsyou4847d ago

HOLY SH!T 720 degrees in 17 mins!!!??? I don't even...

How is this possible?? Brutal new record lol

GrieverSoul4847d ago (Edited 4847d ago )

I was coming here to say Duplicate Story but this is the same article that was posted 5 hours ago.

WTF?!!?!?!

Now it says its been submited 40 minutes ago!?!?!?
Is MS paying N4G to promote Windows 7 or what?!?!

No wonder 700º in less than a hour!

W...
T...
F...
????

EDIT:
User "derangedshaman" submited this story and was approved 13h ago. But if you click it comes up on 40 minutes time mark. N4G, what the hell is this???

Dee_914847d ago

lol
they want geohot to hack the phone for the exposure for the phone
they shouldve went that route with kinect
wouldve been way cheaper then 500mil

Shepherd 2144847d ago

So a random MS phone developer posts a tweet about liking a kids work, and that means that the whole Microsoft company wants him, huh?

Cause im pretty sure thats what the biased title is implying.

Kurt Russell4847d ago (Edited 4847d ago )

People who are pissing and moaning about this being a duplicate story should maybe rethink posting comments and hitting said duplicate story... Otherwise you defy you're own point. :/

zeeshan4847d ago

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! It is a Microsoft product! Of course it has security holes ALL OVER the place!! :D hahahaha Don't believe me, look at Windows :D Enough said!

Ryudo4847d ago

@zeeshan

You do know Microsoft software is some of the most secure on the planet, the problem is for every 1 person trying to find a security loop hole in the PS3 there's 20000 people finding them in Windows.

The fact Windows still functions at all shows how great the security is.

RedDevils4847d ago

looking at the dougebag face, boy do I want real hard punch onto his face!

NeutralGamer4847d ago

What the fuck Geohot?

What about all those "Donate money to me so I can keep jailbreaking for you" buttons on his site?!

Now he is using all the donators moneys to go buy him a new device and abandoning them?

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xtremeimport4848d ago

idk if people remember this BUT, MS banned people for using 3rd party devices and had a HUGE ban wave like almost 2 years ago. thanks to them, i had to buy a new xbox. soo this makes me giggle.

gamingdroid4848d ago

They were banning people that was pirating games....

xtremeimport4847d ago

before that huge ban wave people were getting banned for just using 3rd party devices. And I know it was games as well..since thats what I was banned for.

gamingdroid4847d ago

I have never heard of anyone get banned for using a third party peripheral. If anything, they only disable your ability to use said third party peripherals.

I have only heard of basically pirates (or more accurately modders) being banned.

lil Titan4848d ago

all the popular phones get jailbroken microsoft just wants to be in that crowd smh

mcstorm4848d ago

Wp7 has already been jailbroken so not sure why the have done this. Also to say wp7 is a flop is wrong 1.5 million is a good start for a new os and the way the phone shops have been clueless about wp7. I went in carphoneware house n phones4u when wp7 came out to see if they were getting the hd7 and they said I don't want windows mobile as its too buggy I should look at android or iPhone. When I asked if they could show me a windows phone 7 they said they had none in but said it looks just like this and gave me a hd2 which runs wimo 6.5 not wp7. Once people use the phone and have training in shops on them people will start to see its a very stable os, quick, easy to use and fits into allmost into every ones life. I don't think wp7 can over take android or iPhone but I will get 3rd spot within the next 2 years. Plus because android is built like the orignal wimo over the next few years they will start to hit the same problems wimo did with software only working on some devices and not others where as MS holds the strings on hardware and software for wp7 it will be alot more stable like the iPhone.

r1sh124847d ago

Windows phone 7 has already been jailbroken.
MS gave the guy who did it a t-shirt which said I was teh first person to jail break WP7

lelo2play4848d ago (Edited 4847d ago )

Good for Microsoft... not like other companies that go crying to court, wasting everybody's time. Some companies (will not mention by name) look like little kids that got beaten and go home crying for mama.

Microsoft, why not ask Geohot's advice to make a more secure system. Sony and Apple should do the same thing.

zeksta4847d ago

You know.. I'm not even going to bother to write a Decent reply to you, all I have to say is 1 Word.

Idiot.

cozmo1954847d ago

@lelo2play
lets see you spend billions on dollars of research and investing and manufacturing a product to see someone just hack it to run pirated games which could be done by custom firmware that anyone with half a brain could install

and why the fuck would they hire geohot anything they will to destroy him financially and make sure he is never able to hack again

lelo2play4847d ago (Edited 4847d ago )

@zeksta
You don't want to reply... then your reply is that I'm idiot. Real mature. Grow up you moron.

@cozmo195
A person buys a product. It's his product. He can do what ever he wants with it. If he wants to throw it out the window, then it's up to him. If he wants to hack it, then it's up to him. It's his product.
It's the same thing you buying a computer with Windows, and you want to uninstall windows and install linux, but you can't because the manufacturer does not allow it. Or buying a automobile and want to change the radio, but can't because the manufacturer does not allow it.

fatstarr4847d ago

meh microsoft loves hackers. thats why everything illegal is done on windows they dont care :D.

but i dont see what there is to hack on windows phone 7

jerethdagryphon4847d ago

the whole article is a mess, of corse they dont care to much its advertiseing and legla, now if he found w way to pirate it or something then theyd be annoyied

bad comaprison

HungPHATx4847d ago

Instead of Jailbreaking and Hacking peoples devices ! Try getting some pussy and find something better to with your free time Buddy

Vherostar4846d ago

Do we need more proof that MS exploits piracy for its own gain?? Its done it with the 360 and now its trying with W7 phones.

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GSpartan7774848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

LOL Nice PR by Microsoft. With Sony already looking like the bad guy in this situation why not? However, wanting him to jailbreak the windows phone is almost as if it was jailbroken already since they expect it AKA windows phone seems like it's going to be an open device unlike the iphone.

Edit: Windows Phone has already been jailbroken. <_< Why would Geohot bother with it?

Ducky4848d ago

... to jump in and steal the credit for himself?

NewMonday4848d ago

As for "bad guys" it depends on point of view, whether you approve of stealing the hard work of others or not.

Lich1204848d ago

Its not that black and white new. Im against pirating software, but I don't think what Geohot did should be considered illegal.

DarkFantasy4847d ago

yes because Sony is just like sooooo evil for trying to stop piracy,there so bad/S

GSpartan7774847d ago

I didn't say Sony was the bad guy, I'm simply referring that Microsoft is taking advantage of this situation because Sony is in a position where they look as if they are bullying GeoHotz by taking him to court.

NYC_Gamer4848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

this is a direct jab at sony

Edit@below
yes i agree its also towards apple

GSpartan7774848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

It's somewhat towards Apple as well, since Apple hates the fact that their iPhone gets jailbroken while Microsoft is being open to it.

dktxx24848d ago

I thinks its more a jab at their own customers. Here Sony is trying to fight for developers and gamers alike against douchebag hackers, and Microsoft is saying have fun, we already have there money.

Hitman07694848d ago

Interesting point dktxx2. I didn't think of it that way... but that makes sense.

Kewl_Kat4848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

I totally agree. The real question should be is why Windows Phone was never open to begin with. In a way, MS is saying "We're selling this phone, and only hackers can enable features that we locked in the first place. Oh, and the warranty won't cover any damage that hacking may cause. "

Lord_Doggington4848d ago

probably has some tech in the phone that shocks you when you try to hack it "...go aheaaad, man. hack the phone... we WANT you to.."

Op244848d ago

That'll make his afro stand high hahahaha

Passthemic4848d ago

Future Microsoft employee in the making :)

Op244848d ago

Hey if he could put his hacking to good use on the Xbox by making it a do whatever you want console without the cheating and piracy im all for it. But what he's doing on the PS3 needs to end nobody besides people who pirate games etc are happy about it.

Passthemic4848d ago

Sony should have better security measures in place for the PS3 if it doesn't want it to be hacked.

whitesoxfalife4848d ago

wow really? i gave u a disagree on that ps3 is not "god"

DarkFantasy4847d ago

XD!!!! Lord_Doggington Bubble+!

Jazz41084842d ago

What.......Ps3 is not God? I could have sworn i read diffrently in the comments on here every day by the Sony Fanatics.

Passthemic4848d ago (Edited 4848d ago )

It's all good until something breaks :)

theEnemy4847d ago

Is MS that desperate ?

They 'want' hackers to notice their product so other people will as well.

lol

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 15h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 10h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 17h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 3h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199222h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 16h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 15h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 11h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 4h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 10h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 10h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier22h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan14h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 20h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 9h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 19h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 18h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 16h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers2d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken2d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g2d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing2d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H92d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola2d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6692d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle2d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere3d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN3d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos2d ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo2d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies2d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger3d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic2d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows902d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger1d 7h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto3d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos3d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long2d ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator3d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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