Final Fantasy XV (15): A Glimpse of the Future

GR - "Final Fantasy XV: There have been a lot of rumors flying around regarding this title. Especially since the announcement that Final Fantasy XV would return the series to the traditional single-player RPG gameplay from the MMORPG format of Final Fantasy XIV, for better or for worse."

[halocursed]

Hopefully it's a return of the franchise to better days. FF13 was rough.

[Valay]

Don't forget Final Fantasy XIV...

[Chris399]

Even Square. I'll give it a go with the 30 days free subscription if/ when it launches on PS3 though. If they reinvent the mechanics enough, it might not suck. The visuals and story are sumptuous, it's the GAMEPLAY that's atrocious.

[deafwing]

ahh SE has a lot of work to win back rpg fans ... and this time, not just in the East but in the West to.

As for XIII, it had solid gameplay (battle system was great but it could have been deeper). The story seemed like a pre-cursor of things to come and yes, there weren't enough people and towns but you can blame that on the plot (abandoned planet and all).

So perhaps the story writers are really to blame? Never the less, I hope they continue the path of action type ABS and make it deeper, and for God Sake get someone else to write the story.

[DevilsJoker]

Make a FF9 style game with beautifull colours and HD graphics. Just do THAT, that's all it needs!

[PsERSONA]

Did I just read that you think the gameplay is "atrocious" after you typed that you will give it a go on the PS3 release?

Is it safe to assume you haven't played XIV before?

[Kee]

@deafwing you might be on to something there, the story was written so that it took place somewhere with no people. The whole game actually kinda felt monotonous because of this. It was just this path they put you on with no pit stops along the way where you can interact with the locals, do side missions and trigger important events.
I think that's the key thing XIII was missing.

[Chris399]

Yes, you read that correctly. But if you've been following XIV at all, you'd know that the new development team recently issued a player questionnaire that mentioned "radical changes" to the game and whether or not that would be welcomed. (I said "yes")

I have played the game, and it is lovely to look at but a chore to play. They can fix the "chore" part (the mechanics, which I already mentioned in my first post) and keep the assets, I'm sure. Considering that they said that the PS3 version wouldn't be released until all the new changes/ fixes had been implemented, reason would dictate it wise to wait for that version.

Capiche?

[nickjkl]

"with no people:

wait what

there were people you just didnt have to go up to each one and press x to hear them say something random

you just walk by them as they ramble on about their problems

its upto you to stop and listen

does anyone else find it weird that people want mini games in their game

yo dawg i heard you like games so i put a mini game in your game so you can game while you game

[deafwing]

don't confuse the sun with the moon

we don't mean that there were no people, just lack there of from previous titles in the series and the game itself, and the path you take (@Kee), is somewhat ... lonely.

[rockleex]

@nick:

That's like saying you don't need to go to the club in order to dance. You can just dance at home by yourself.

But the whole point of the club is so you can dance with tons of strangers, and you never know what kind of experience you might find.

Anyways, here's why I feel FFXIII failed so hard gameplay-wise:

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

[TheDivine]

Heres what to do, but lost odyssey, enjoy the real ff 13. Seriously though, i loved 7-12 excluding 11, even like 13 but it lacked in places. Either make it turn based w controll of everybody or a ff12 type system which i also loved. 13 had a great story but needed stuff to break up the mononotony, minigames, exploration, sidequests with npcs, towns, hidden summons exc. Lost odyssey had all this and the great long cgi scenes so theres no reason square cant do it. I believe vs 13 will rock and i have faith that they can make 15 awesome as well.

[RedDead]

May aswell call versus FF15

[AndrewRyan]

I agree. Final Fantasy versus XIII is the stupidest title I have ever heard. With new characters and a new setting. "Oh but it's in the same galaxy!!" Shut the fuck up, looks nothing like XIII, why call it Versus XIII?

[visualb]

who knows. Might have some tie in, we need to wait for the game for that.

[Eamon]

Well, every FF game has a different Mythos and in every FF game its mythos is very deep. So, save money and time creating a whole new mythos and just use the same mythos as FF13?

[rufioho]

dang, 15 FF? That's a lot. Im bored with em

[cemelc]

Why? the only thing the have in common is the name. Everything else is different with each iteration of the game.

[StillGray]

It had better be superior to FF13, though Versus may well be that... assuming it ever comes out.

[Godmars290]

If Square maintains to its preference of CG over gameplay for the franchise, simplifying it for everyone, there likely wont be a FFXV. No one - sensible - will buy the $60 CG movie.

[Eamon]

I honestly don't give a shit about casuals getting turned off. S-E need to go back to their roots.

Menu-orientated ATB gameplay with no auto-battle, paradigm and stagger bullshit.

Otherwise, you're through S-E.

[Godmars290]

They started disliking - accepted negative public opinion of it at least - ATB since FFX. That's why they went with a MMO style for XII.

What they need to do is go back and look at Chrono Trigger. The damn CG trailer for FFXIV for that matter when the magic user charged the archer's attack with fire. Make a combat system that allows players to figure out and create combos like that on their own and design monster accordingly.

Of course at this point they'll never figure that out even though we have.

[Zuriel]

Completely agree with this, the old FFs were all about you having control over the battle and being able to tailor your strategy depending on what the enemy/boss did. With all the new stuff you have to conform to their system and worse off just mash x for the stupid auto-battle thing. It's like controlling an 'interactive' movie.

Hope XV goes in a better direction...

[maniacmayhem]

Anyone play Rogue Galaxy for PS2? To me that had one of the best fighting systems in an RPG.

I wish that fighting system was in the next FF.

[rulakir]

Please do not make this for Xbox 360, you will ruin a game that belongs on a Sony platform.
There, I said it.

[SuperLupe]

Yep I guess PS3 exclusivity will give it a better story and gameplay. Makes a lot of sense.

[maniacmayhem]

Actually it belongs on Nintendo where it started.

[visualb]

Correct. But i'd say 2D FF games belong on Nintendo platforms

3D, started on sony =)

stupid argument. it can be multi-plat and good

its up to SE...they are the ones who have sucked recentlty

[Coogi]

More fanboys that are confused and wanna blame the xbox...After seeing 14 just completely SUCK...it's more then obvious SE is the problem not the platform it's on, they are losing there touch and being like EA Sports and in it for the money since us Americans pretty much have one JRPG publisher to choose from these days that make consistent games.

Lost Odyssey is proof a GOOD company could make a correct JRPG on Xbox.

And yeah don't forget PS3 didn't start with FF series Xbox is only doing what Sony did, don't be hypocritical.

[Quietpower10]

Despite I agree with your comment, I have doubts that Yoichi Wada isn't going to surrender appealing Western audiences. However, at least Wada might've understood the point for the fact the Xbox360 version of XIII had been lower than he PS3 version from both West and Japan.

The most everyone can do is hope with their highest hope that XV will stay as a PS3 exclusive.

[NicSage]

Passed on 13, passing on 14 & 15.

[tweet75]

after ff 13 and 14 ive lost all my faith in the final fantasy series after 20 years and im not coming back.

[Simco876]

Thats a little harsh. I mean I will give FFXV a chance, but if it goes off the deep end again I am hanging my hat.

One bad game and an bad MMO shouldn't wreck the whole series for you.

They had at least 11 Classic games!

[Troll-without-Bridge]

seen how every FF is a different game, establishing a pattern is a dumb thing to do. FFXV can, and probably will be something completely different from FFXIII.

As for FFXIV, its on the right track to redemption, the game has tons of potential.

[maverick40]

I wouldnt give up just yet. 13 was average and 14 was an mmorpg. I still have hope that they will return to FFx days.

[Capt-FuzzyPants]

When did they confirm anything about FF15?

[Kee]

Kitase gave a quote not long ago that the FFXIII team were moving on to their next project and that they want to release an FF title every 2 years or so.

So it might be coming in 2012.

If it is FFXV. They might just be making that type Zero no one knows anything about.

[Capt-FuzzyPants]

I know they said that but did he ever say anything about the gameplay.

[DaTruth]

If the animals keep dieing like they have in the past week, there won't be a 2012!

[Kee]

Stop trying to westernise it.
Its Final Fantasy, don't try and make it something it isn't.
The first section of an FF game has always been linear, there only ever was one place you could go, unless its like IV and VIII where there where certain points in the game you could go almost anywhere.
Once you progress with the story and get some transport you can go anywhere.

Thats the way FF has always been. Sure, more open-worldyness would be welcome but FF should not be like Oblivion.

That said, FFXV wont be out for a long time, we still have Versus XIII which, judging by the interviews and trailers, still looks promising.
I just want final fantasy to be final fantasy again. I want them to be more like FFI through to FFX.

[phantomexe]

ff13 was bad but the guy who wrote this most love hear himself talk. i agree with him on about two things.

[maverick40]

To be honest guys, I'm happy FF13 is around. This gen we are starved of rpg's and good ones at that. I was just happy to playing an rpg again instead of the generic "cool" games like cod and bad company to name but a few. Yeah it was linear as fuck but we still got an above average rpg with high production values and lovely graphics. The next iteration after versus will be better than 13 and 14. Square seem stupid most of the time but they do read the reviews and consumer complaints.

[Snarkasaur]

This is easily the best article I've seen regarding FF13, and one of the best I've ever read that N4G led me to. I loved FF13, but to see it pulled apart and examined is a real treat compared to the usual vitriol spilling from every mouth on the internet when the game is brought up. And what's more, despite my love for the game, I actually agreed with you on most points.

[smashman98]

A few tips of advice square should follow (but they never will because they'll never read this):

1. Finish the 500 odd games your'e working on at the moment before adding another 700. we want those 500 games first

2.Summons do not turn into cars. Final fantasy =/= transformers

3.Don't hold back what could be a good game by deciding you want to make more money on it.

4.Don't announce games ten years before they're supposed to come out

5. Stop it with all the spinoffs i mean sure they are awesome but jeez

im done :D

[mightyboot]

The next FF needs to made by people that played and love the classic FF games ,like FF6 for example, and then try to do something fresh but without trying to making it mainstreamed like putting pretty girls with pink hair dressed on fetish clothes for example.

[CLOUD1983]

Squaresoft have made in the past my 2 all time favorite games FFVII & Xenogears, I enjoy playing FF games from 7 to 10 and 7 & 10 was the best imo anywway I would love to see again a turn based FF game with awesome story and awesome characters why is it so hard to do that seriously..

The last games was completely disappointing, FFXII was like an MMO with bot-program set the gambit and just walk around and leave it play on it's own worst battle system ever.. in FFXIII they remove every single thing make an FF what it is, no exploration no shops no npc's no map no mini games no nothing.. u control 1 char the others r on auto-pilot summon transformers.. who the fck think this sh1t seriously.. the ppl who work at SE right now and the retard Wada need some spanking in the ass they ruin my once (& million others) favorite company.

I want to believe that someday in the future I will play again an FF again that will make me say "WoW!" when the end title appear on the screen, but the last time this happen was over 10 years ago and it's a little hard, I am sad :(

[Laeto256]

honestly i think Nomura's Versus XIII may be how FF's should evolve, assuming it's as uber as we hope it is.

[gamerxxx]

Seriously, wtf are you talking about? Square-Enix is the best rpg developer ever. Watch your mouth when you are talking about such a great company!

[gamerxxx]

the above post goes for what user CLOUD1983 said..

[zackacloud]

I like one game

Than a lot of bad games or wrong game plan

As we know square now work on 7 or more games

Final fantasy xiii will success if it released for psp with 2 UMD

KHBBS will be the top from date 1 to release of versus if it was on ps3

Final fantasy xiv was too fast and wrong time and care about graphics more than anything same as final fantasy

Agito should be on ps3 not on oldest game devise on market (psp)

Square Enix must care about fans one time at least

We want saw a real remakes for FF titles

FFI and II was good but it should also release on PSN and Xbox live

PSP must have 3D remake for IV not 2D ( but that not biggest deal )

Final Fantasy VII remake must happen and work on exlusive for PS whatever happen

FF ps2 titles must see the light of HD collection

No body right now care about XV most of fans look at versus with all of their hopes

[Pledius]

Square(or aka Squaresoft) need to break away from Enix. After the merge FF just went downhill every single game...

I miss FFX and previous ones before it.

good old days

[GigaGaia]

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is the last chance. If it also sucks, the series is over.

Thankfully, it probably won't, since it's directed by Nomura and PS3 exclusive.

Towns, NPCs, a worldmap and an airship, it seems to have every traditional things as well.

[zackacloud]

their two persons and they the sucks itself

Wada and Nomura must work on Capcom because they professional of destroy fan hopes and don't listen to fan and that what Capcom want and they do

[LoLZoRz]

they must finish vsXIII and Agito first.

[Ascalon94]

yeah uh.. when the fuck is Versus coming out?

[LightofDarkness]

Really, they need to just call Versus "XV" and be done with the XIII moniker. Associating anything with XIII now would be like trying to give someone a gourmet burger wrapped in BigMac packaging. Doesn't matter how good the burger is, it will still say BigMac on the front, and anyone who has a problem with BigMacs is going to have a problem with your burger.

Bit of a round-about metaphor, I know, but it gets the point across. I think.