Killzone 3 - Longer Campaign, No Controller Lag, Beta Info Coming Soon

SystemLink: "It's Eurogamer Expo time, and that can only mean the Gamer's Guide to Life network is here to bring you exclusive information live from London. First up, we've got brand new info on the upcoming fanboy-baiting Killzone 3, after the jump."

[hobo51]

ill sell my left nut to get in the beta, just kidden but damm i wanna play this game!

[Megaton]

I was pretty excited when I got into the KZ2 closed beta. I was checking my email looking for an invite for Resistance 2, and discovered one for KZ2 instead. Made my day.

[Karum]

That wasn't a bad consolation prize lol

[The_Count]

How soon is the question :D

[MisterNiwa]

For me, it was the other way around, just in my case, I wasn't happy. ;_;

[WildArmed]

lol. Killzone 2 beta lost it's charm fast for me.
I barely played in the first phase of the closed beta.

But when the game came out, i couldn't stop playing.

Mainly because I dont really like playing w/o friends.

Simiarly how right now AC:B and DS2 beta are sitting on my ps3 with only 2 hours of gameplay each.

[Game-ur]

Just signed up to PSN+ and got AC: brotherhood beta was this for every subscriber or did I get lucky?

[deafwing]

the are changing the only problems I had with KZ2

[nveenio]

I hope they have an option for weightier controls. That was actually something I liked about KZ2. I'm not a fan of shooters particularly because of the twitch factor. KZ2's control scheme made it feel more "human".

[sikbeta]

EPIC! no more words needed

KZ3D FTFW!!!

[deafwing]

I kind of see your point there.

Developers just don't get it - gamers want as many options as possible. From the get go, you should have been given the option to change the weight ... or at least after you clear the game the first time ... I remember the devs *itching about that they wanted gamers to experience the game with heavy controls ...

my response is that's fine .. but give me the option to change it after I clear the game

[pwnd_of_lol]

For the coming flood of people saying that there is no need to fix the controls…Im right there with you. Its one of the aspects of the game which separates it from the crowd. However, even I cant deny that when Im playing a video game.In a shooter, aiming is arguably the most important part of the game and KZ2 got it wrong.

I’m kinda glad in this news. I liked KZ2 but the controls felt kinda heavy. Maybe way too much. I’d love them taking a lighter control scheme in between batlefield 2 and KZ2...

[ZombieAutopsy]

I partly agree with you, I loved the heavy feel but I hated what felt like input lag...maybe it was because of the heavy feel aspect though I'm not sure. Either way I know I'll enjoy the game.

[Sillyace92]

yep, I'm glad they changed it.

[crzyjackbauer]

a better reflex scope
change the color on it
i couldn'tsee a thing on the green scope from the ISA assult riffle
and a little less recoil on it too
i always found myself changing it for up helghast weapons

[-Alpha]

Oh so now you guys are admitting it -_-

When I said this back when K2 was around people immediately assumed I wanted COD controls.

The fact of the matter was that the "lag" input ruined CQC and made sniping a pain as you had to "flick" your analog stick to make sure you were killing people. The patch they did in K2 fixed the lag greatly, but they seem to be making it even smoother. Killzone's heavy feel didn't come from the lag input, it came from the way the guns fired. That's what was so great about the feel.

There are other things that I disliked in Killzone 2, like the rocket class being so easy to abuse and spawn/nade spam, etc. I'd really like to play the beta as they seemed to have changed and redone so much.

[Gamehead36]

am i the only one who liked the input lag? it gave the feeling that you're a heavy soldier, while also requirimg much more skill without being frustrating. at least for me i guess. im afraid for killzone 3 :/

If i want battlefield controls ill play battlefield and if i want cod controls ill play cod

[Heisenberg]

Because I really did like the weighty feel of KZ2 controls. I don't mind them tightening it up some, as long as they keep some of the weight and realistic physics so you don't feel like you're floating around and can stop on a dime from a full out sprint, like in CoD.

I hope they don't over compensate, although I doubt they will, because the more realistic weight and feel of KZ2's controls was one of the aspects that helped set it apart from other typical FPS (among many other aspects, of course), I like the challenge, it made it much more satisfying to get a kill.

Edit:@Gamehead36 -- I totally agree, the heavy feel gave you a much better sense of the weight of the soldier, his armor and his gun(s), making it feel more (for lack of a better word) badass than your average FPS, IMO. The more realistic it feels, the easier it is to immerse ones self in the game, which is why I find it harder to get into it when I play a game like CoD and everyone floats around while spinning and jumping without the hindrance of friction and gravity.

[RumbleFish]

The heavy feel was really extremely good, but that's possible without input lag I think.
If they need lag for that heavy feel, they ought to use it on the left stick only. If the aiming and the trigger are not affected, anything would be fine for me.

[suckerpunch]

when KZ2 has heavy laggy control, you say its unique. now when the developer changed it to make it to be responsive like the rest of shooters, you say good

[Kill Crow]

For the flood of people who said it wasn't lag it was deliberate realism programmed in to make the guns feel heavier ... STOP LIVING IN DENIAL.

It was a defect. LAG. They made an effort to fix it in KZ2 by patching it and promised it would be fixed in KZ3.

It doesn't seperate it from the crowd and differently than all of COD MW2's glitches seperate it from the crowd.

[Organization XII]

I'm sure as hell its going to be the best fps ever, today i tried to give mw2 a chance but i totally hated it, killzone feels more realistic, cant wait for Killzone 3 with longer campaigns...

[CantHaveOpinionsHere]

but seriously, the better controls and longer story makes it a winner for me

[BoNeSaW23]

I can't find anything on killzone.com!?

[avengers1978]

BRING IT ON!

[jony_dols]

As one of the 7 people that loved Killzone 1,
I just want the whole game ported over to the KZ3 engine,
but include secondary fire on weapons and add character selection before
each level.

Thanks Guerrilla, i'll expect a preview copy in the post for me to test out.

You have till December.

[frjoethesecond]

I'm one of those kz2 lovers. Awesome game IMO.

[Gago]

there finally fixing that laggy POS

i might get this

[DufferO8]

not that great, bit over hyped

[MGRogue2017]

1000000x better than Killzone 2.

[Redrum059]

chuck norris and albert wesker aproves thais game.

[Shoko]

And M. Bison

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Organization XII]

what about our beloved Dante??

[thedisagreefairy]

dante pretty much died. ninja theory killed him

[blackburn5]

Kratos God of War approves this game. He loves war.

[Hank Hill]

"Guerilla Games revealed that they'd totally removed all controller lag from the multiplayer element of the game."

Hank Hill here, assistant manager, Strickland Propane. This news is music to my ears.

[dinkeldinkse]

Only complaints I had with KZ2 was that I wish the campaign was longer and Rico's badassery was shown.

Btw I thought KZ2 controls were fantastic.

[ddurand1]

I wonder how public this beta will be.

[dosgrtr]

so they've improved the visuals,campaign length,controls,environment variety and the story,that's quite a lot

[PierceBrosnan]

The campaign was so short in the first one & the controls felt really slow & laggy.. I'm glad that they've sorted that out!

[Panthers]

The campaign was a very decent length for a shooter. If games seem too short, try playing on harder difficulties. That game took me a long time to beat on my first run through because I was playing on hard.

[All_4_One]

I`m most happy that they`re mixing up the environments. I loved Killzone 2, but I thought the industrial level design got a little stale after a while.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

I'm totally ok with the removal of the controller lag. Thank you GG.

[shammgod]

Killzone 2 was absolutely amazing. This game will take up several months of my life...

[MidnytRain]

More than just a few months, it will define multiplayer on the PS3. I loved Killzone 2 because it had that perfect blend between sci-fi futurism and retro- grittiness. Now that they have spiced up the multiplayer AND single-player (hopefully they do well w/ the co-op) I don't see myself putting this game down.

[hobo51]

ive been playing k2 since its launch til today so i guess ill be playing this game til k4 comes out probably gonna be released in 4d :S

[MysticStrummer]

Now if they'll just remove Rico's voicebox...

[crzyjackbauer]

lets just hope they kill rico on this one
i mean since kz1 hes been a pain in th @ss
they killed jan templar in kz2 lets see rico die on this one

[Panthers]

Id rather them kill Natco or however you spell his name. He was more annoying than Rico in KZ2

[TheBand1t]

Natko had the redeeming value of being kinda funny and actually killing people with his shotgun.

Rico does not.

[S_C]

Hope They Include The Playstation Move In The Beta

[Sizzon]

2 player coop would be awesome

[Omar91]

just got into the dead space 2 beta, so im hoping i also get into this beta as well

[NecrumSlavery]

same here. i dont like the DS2 MP @ all tho :(

[vickers500]

Make sure you guys tell them that then! If you got into the beta, then they should have sent out an email survey regarding the balance and quality issues of the game. Don't be one of those douchey idiots who thinks "hay, a FREE DEMO, LOLZ" and then when the game comes out say something like "DIS SUXXX!!! Y dident dey lissen to da cumoonity?!?1!!!!?111one" .

Take the time to fill out that survey.

[alphakennybody]

I'm glad they've fixed the lag between pressing r1 and on-screen action, It was the only flaw that got annoying in mp in couple of occasions.

[HDgamer]

They should make the lag optional, I personally want it.

[Mista T]

this made me lol, epic facepalm

[ADMIRALcoltgahr]

hey man theres nothing with what he said personally i had no problem with the original control than i head ppl crying fool it was sad really

[peeps]

although i understand why some ppl enjoyed the control scheme for me a shooter should be about skill and not fighting with the controls.

True in real life a gun would be heavy to move around etc etc but the input lag was the same whether u where holding a pistol or an lmg.

Tbh it could also be linked into the addition of move support. Imagine how frustrating it would be playing with move if it 'lagged'. Wouldn't say much for the 1:1

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

I clicked on their live blog and they said they were shown a trailer that wasn't allowed to be filmed.

They were aloud to film the first trailer but not the second one? maybe the new trailer had jungle footage in it.

[ngecenk]

hope they remove the f-bomb. got kid around cant play while their comin :P

[NecrumSlavery]

I heard the profanity isnt so blatant. It may have cussing but it wont be GTA-immature

[Mr Tretton]

yet you're ok with your kid being exposed to all the violence?

Let me guess, American?

[Organization XII]

I hope they put Taliban as an extra team :D, screw you EA go shuv your MoH up your a@#..

[RememberThe357]

You guys are really butt hurt about this aren't you. I'm still too worried about the quality of the multiplayer to give a shit what they call the "other guys".

[vickers500]

Some people were going to buy it just to support the right to creative freedom, which isn't a bad reason.

These days, gaming STILL isn't seen as equal to movies, tv shows, or music. We have games like Six Days in Fallujah (don't think I spelled that right but I don't care) that were pulled because it was "offensive" to some people, we have a game like little big planet that was delayed and had a patch implemented to REMOVE content from the game (even if it was just one song) because it contained a line from the Koran that shouldn't be offensive at all(don't think I spelled that right either) and muslims were offended, so it was taken out, and now we have this bs with Medal of Honor.

A game that has until recently taken a stance against all that bullsh*t, has caved into the whiny crybaby b*tching by all these hypocrites, and are showing that they are just as chickensh*t as all the other companies who caved in just to save a few hurt feelings.

The issue is not about the quality of the game, that's what people like you seem to not understand. The issue is about allowing freedom of creativity, and not having games be inferior to movies and television just because there is an idiot stereotype that gaming is "just for kids". If the issue were about the quality of the game, then there would be no reason to be pissed, but it's not about the quality of the game, it's about the stance that these devs were supposed to take to show these over sensitive bullies that gaming is every bit as important and relevant and equal to movies, television, and music.

[ReservoirDog316]

Whatever, it doesn't matter if we lose that supreme court thing anyways. And if we win then we shouldn't ever hear about this anymore.

[telekineticmantis]

Hate from Halo fanboys might end up making this game the best military shooter. Talk about crossing your T's and Dotting your I's. Most shooters have the minimum campaign length. They are taking some of the really good things from killzone 1, and 2 and adding new things, which is great because they really seem to be 2 relatively different games. I think this game will kick major A$$.

[Winckle]

If they fix the controller lag, I'll be part of this aventure!

[LevDog]

The one thing I wish they would fix is the Hip firing accuracy.. In close ups its fine.. But Why is it more accurate than Scope fire in medium range? I found myself rarely using scope fire..

[Jonoc33]

Very true. I actually found at one point the controller lag put me off aiming down sights because I wasted time aiming when I could just shoot from the hip. Even at long distance.

[ivant]

Hip firing was far too accurate. Need to get rid of the cross hair altogether to remedy this problem.

[outwar6010]

yh thats what annoyed me most about kz2

[Ravage27]

Dear Sony, i'll subscribe to PSN+ the moment you announce a KZ3 beta for members.

Don't disappoint me now ;)

[outwar6010]

it most probably will happen for ps plus subscribers

[InTheKnow]

I'll be buying a new 360 inspired PS3 controller when Killzone 3 makes it's appearance in Feb 2011. The standard controller is broken in it's current state as has been outlined by many devs. The right stick in particular is really bad and I won't get into the placement of the sticks as it's the biggest complaint about the standard controller. Someone ( a couple manufacturers actually ) are finally listening and putting a couple decent alternatives out in the market...can't wait.

[maxcer]

I gotta agree with you on that one, the PS1 controller was ok for me when i was 16 but now the DS3 is a bit small for my hands.

[ivant]

The Move(motion controls) is the future of shooter controllers.....fast aiming pawns analog sticks.

[GoldPS3]

KZ3 will be good.

[Cueil]

no controller lag is impossible... that's a technical limitation

[Dr-Zoidberg]

I think Killzone 3 will be a much more refined experience, yes Killzone 2 had it's shortcomings but I think KZ3 will be a much better experience. I always admire companies who learn from mistakes and GG have heard our cries, they patched KZ2 as much as they could but I think KZ3 will be a much better game (not that KZ2 was bad but it was a marmite game)

[Allowen]

Since Resistance 3 might not appear in 2011 then KZ3 will be the best Sony's exclusive PS3 game for my taste next year.

Yah I know, Socom, LBP2,MS3, Infamous2 etc, etc all rules and I will try to buy then all too :)

[ManiacMansion]

no lag? hm.. i think, the PS3boys wont buy this game, since they all said that the lag from KZ2 made the gameplay.... feeling "real".. lol

[n4gno]

No lag in kz2.

lag is for p2p poor online.

[cyborg6971]

Gtfo dbag. Play some lameo the weight made it more real not the lag.

[N4OGs]

no need to even talk about that anymore since they just said what they said.

also a longer game is crazy because i always think that resistance series and killzone had pretty long campaigns because when i play through again for trophies it takes for ever to finish.

also k2 had lots of variety so for this game to have more its gonna be crazy.

k2 had space ship battles, mech battles, tank battles, etc.

[orange-skittle]

They've removed controller lag from multiplayer. That means its still there in single player

[bviperz]

I hope I get into the public beta.

[ivant]

I just want them to get rid of spawn flares.

Okay, I also want the ability to call in air and artillery strikes, huge variety of weapons and customization, IR and thermal goggles for true night combat, retain server lists not match making, improved bot AI so you can rank up playing bots, modern weapons(HK416, MP7, Tavors, etc) as rewards, make all weapons available for players to use, ...

All of these will make KZ3 MP the king of console shooters.

[Bobets]

AAA+ game comming exclusively to PS3 sigh....must be so painful staring at your broken xbox thinking that you just wasted godly ammount of cash replacing broken systems, paying for online, glorified $150 eye-toy rip-off just to wake up and realize that there's barely any exclusive comming out for it to play.