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Capcom: DMC4's 2.7m sales not enough, wants 5+ from reboot

The Japanese publisher expects big numbers from Ninja Theory's reboot.

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CrazyForGames4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

5 million from the reboot? *holds in laughter*

yeah and i want the golden egg laying goose....

qface644995d ago

yeah i don't see it clearing 5 million plus in sales

AntoineDcoolette4995d ago

Well, I sure didn't hold in my laughter. I instantly chuckled after the title registered.

mikeslemonade4995d ago

Yea, you need multiplayer or something to make people buy it. If I can rent it and beat it in 10 hours there's no point in buying it for me.

Natsu X FairyTail4995d ago

Not happening even if the game is Multiplatform. It needs Multiplayer to draw more players in.

I'll probably buy it tho because I'm a big fan of the series and of the Hack N Slash genre.

CASTLEVANIA NEXT MONTH OWWWWWW

Redrum0594995d ago

with the way Dante looks now, i predict it will get less sales then DMC4.
srry, but the new dante seems more apealing to Emo kids, i dont know any Emo kids that play games.
A blame the director of the game, he clearly has something to do with dantes new look.

ExplosionSauce4995d ago

Why do some Japanese companies think their games will be better by Westernizing them. Kinda takes away the charm of Japanese games.

It's like they think that DMC never had any fans in the West.
DMC already has fans! Capcom's not gonna get any more sales by scrapping the character that made the series and caught fans' attention in the first place.

badz1494995d ago

the reboot will definitely sells less!

@mikeslemonade

don't give Capcom any idea! maybe they will pull the Assassin's Creed and put MP! who knows

Reibooi4995d ago

given the MASSIVE fan backlash I doubt it will even come close to what DMC 4 did.

The only way it could is if it pulls in a huge new audience and I don't see this game doing that. The whole look and feel screams emo and that's not exactly popular in the US and I doubt Europe and Japan will get it to 5mil alone.

I really don't know how to feel about the reboot. I kinda wanna see it get good reviews but fail so they will go back to the old Dante but with the new game play that Ninja Theory is going to add in(assuming it plays well that is)

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FiftyFourPointTwo4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

Get ready to be disappointed then.

Whoever at Capcom is in command of finalizing character designs should get fired. Some alternate costumes in SF4/SSF4 are just terrible. Even some of the upcoming DLC ones.

Sigh4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

Funny you mention about someone in command in charge for this DMC reboot's character design. Guess who it is. Hint: It's not the the creative designer that designed the ugly new Dante based on himself and his wacky hair. He's Japanese and talked mad shit about other japanese developer's games at TGS.

FiftyFourPointTwo4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

Dont lecture me. -__-'

I'm talking about Capcom's character designers in general.

Shang-Long4995d ago

Wasn't this game suppose succeed their expectation from it being a multi plat title....?

PshycoNinja4995d ago

You can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up quicker.

AbyssGravelord4995d ago

Nice Lamb of God reference PshycoNinja.

Persistantthug4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

He's got one of the coolest real life freakin names I've ever heard.

It's like out of GI Joe or somethin.

lol.

BYE4995d ago

Looks like I'm the only person on the planet that will play this game. lol

Good thing I didn't play any DMC games yet, I'd probably hate the new one like everyone else.

Christopher4995d ago

2.7m isn't enough? Do you know how many companies look at those numbers and wish they had them?

Seriously, your reboot concept isn't going to get anymore sales than the first. You want to make some money, make a shooter that doesn't suck.

The honest problem is, Capcom, your talent has all left you over the years and you're just trying to hold onto IPs that even the original creators are shaking their heads at. At least outside of fighter games, where you're just milking them.

ABizzel14995d ago

I don't get why you guys find it funny. No DMC has sold over 3 million.

BISHOP-BRASIL4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

Indeed, and if anything, the fisrt DMC was the second sales wise with just over 2 million sold, a PS2 exclusive, so it could as well had been the first is DMC4 sales were broken down to each console.

Version after version DMC sales had always decreased. So yes, CAPCOM has all the sign to say it needs a reboot.
http://images1.wikia.nocook...

I'm not saying this means Capcom is right to crap over Dante original character and unplease it's former fans, but DMC wasn't ever a big seller, hence the "westernizing fever" in Capcom.

But the hard cold truth is Capcom is dying. This movement isn't new. They did the very same thing to RE with RE4 and guess what, RE4 never made it to sell like earlier PS1 RE (specially they top seller in the franchise, RE2) so they started to port it all around to get sales up.
http://images2.wikia.nocook...

This Chart Get was from 2008 and don't include RE5, which sold well above 5m copies even before Gold Edition for some reason I don't fully understand, most people I talked to didn't even liked the game that much... I think they simply learned to advertise their games or something.

Capcom as a company needs a reboot. They simply can't get back to their former glory in PS1/early PS2 times.

raWfodog4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

Um, I think that's why they find it funny...the fact that NO DMC has sold over 3 million and they want this one to sell over 5 million...with a totally different looking (funny looking) Dante than what the faithful are used to.

Buuut, I guess if the gameplay mechanics are totally re-done to make them even better, and its multiplat, and it has a really good storyline, and superb graphics (across all systems), and maybe even multiplayer, then who knows...

...at least give Dante his white hair back :)

bjornbear4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

so we gave the middle finger to all of those 2.7m fans and decided to abandon them

NICE ONE CAPCOM! I see the marketing strategy...but all I see in capcom is greed now, no respect for fans anymore...and don't anyone here come and say "Oh but its a business its all about the money"

WE KNOW THAT - you can make money without screwing over your fans you know...

I guess that part of gaming is dying with the big corps....='(

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ActionBastard4995d ago (Edited 4995d ago )

Then they better change that K.D. Lang looking Dante.

CobraKai4995d ago

LMFAO!!! HE TOTALLY DOES LOOK LIKE KD LANG!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

crxss4995d ago

they're definitely going to attract some of those unfamiliar to DMC. then again i love dmc 1+3 and didn't purchase 4. definitely going to purchase this one though. oh yeah in case you didn't notice i'm one of the few that like the updated dante but i also love dmc3's dante.

Neckbear4995d ago

Capcom's logic:

Ignore fanbase.

Ignore people who liked the game and supported it.

Expect 5 million sales from said reboot that screws fans.

...Seriously. And then they cry "Everyone's making crappy gaems and liek we want moar sales and liek yeah".

ThanatosDMC4995d ago

If 2 million were the hardcore fans of DMC, then they just lost those 2 million buyers.

Neckbear4995d ago

What surprises me the most is than for ALOT of publishers and developers 2 million sales seems like a dream most of the time, and are happy with much less.

But not for Capcom.

ThanatosDMC4995d ago

If only they go in to some testing before releasing their games. Lost Planet 2 could have been great, if they actually played the game they made and thought, "WTF? We need to fix this!"

shadowfox4995d ago

What action game HAS cleared that number? GOW3 is coming close, but even that only did like 3 or 4 million.

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Stellar Blade has sold more physical copies than Dragon's Dogma 2 in Japan, despite PS5 exclusivity

By the looks of it, PlayStation 5 exclusivity does not hurt the sales of Stellar Blade in Japan as the game has passed 90,000 sold physical copies.

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Hugodastrevas3d ago

Stellar Blade really deserves way more praise than it got, devs have been adding more and more content, for free, since release and the game already was great to begin with!

BrettAwesome3d ago

More than it got? It got tons, by everyone except the sad wankers who's idea of a sex life, is pulling on their dicks while watching big fake cgi titties 😂

gerbintosh2d ago

Don't see the difference between cgi titties and fake boobs. Also no difference to wanking it to either one of them since both aren't physically there

RiseNShine2d ago

Salty that the game is doing well hm? ;) I suggest some cheese with your whine.

Skuletor2d ago

So you're saying the people that like watching CGI tits didn't praise the game? An educated guess is you meant the opposite.

BrettAwesome2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@Risenwhine
What the fuck are you talking about? I think it looks like an awesome game. I don't get the sentiment that it didn't get as much praise as it deserved. The only ones who's been shit talking it, are sad wankers with no sex life. Am I whining? How? 😂

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Cacabunga3d ago

I think we can safely claim that Stellar Blade 2 is confirmed!
I got it day one, i have some backlog due to RDR2 i just platinumed.. i will get to Stellar Blade in the near future

shinoff21833d ago

Same but I'm hitting yakuza right now. Stellar blade looks cool though.

neutralgamer19923d ago

Capcom really dropped the ball with DG2. They had easy success on their hand but instead with their stupid decisions ruined the games success

Stellar blade is an amazing game and deserves all the success. For all the artificial hate it got from people who had no interest in the game to begin with this shows if you make a good game it will sell. The so called 1st party drought from PlayStation has meant 4 exclusives in 2024 so far. Other companies need to learn how to run a business and plan for the future

H93d ago

Stellar blade is performing very impressively there, DD2 didn't do well because word of mouth destroyed it's reputation and not about the Microtransactions or performance, bad word of mouth about how the game lacks so many things that were in the first one

Redemption-643d ago

DS2 sold 2.5M in a little over a week, what the hell are you talking about?

H93d ago

"there", that's Japan, this article is about Japan, the bad word of mouth is about Japan

Hereandthere3d ago

Exclusives matter. No matter what bumbling phil and bond try to say, exclusives is why you buy a console.

The_Hooligan3d ago

How dare you speak common sense!!??

jznrpg2d ago

It would if they added a lot more combat and didn’t focus on graphics

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Stellar blade is great excited for 2

anast3d ago

They dropped the ball with dogma. SB is a solid game, it just had to weather the social storm.

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Said that dd2 was missing things the first one did,like mass effect 2? I haven't played it so I'm really asking.

spss113d ago

I've played both and I have no idea what people say when they claim it's "incomplete". I've only noticed new things in comparison to DD1 (I would give a list but spoilers). Sometimes I wonder if some people actually played DD1 or maybe they remember it differently. Anyways, if you liked the first one and want more of that, you'll probably like DD2.

anast2d ago

Yeah, the content, combat movement is slower, less vocations, the armor system, it's more simplified, and dungeons are lacking. It's like they rushed it out or something, but didn't forget to add in youtuber pawns and micros. At least ME 2 upped the content.

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Unfortunately, Ninja Theory Isn't Actually Safe From Microsoft

Ninja Theory might have games in the pipeline, but that doesn't mean Xbox won't close it for no reason

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rlow15d ago

Alot of speculation on their part. Ninja Theory has two games that have been green lighted and are in the works. Yes it’s always a possibility they could be closed but no matter how you feel about the Senua games. They do make a quality game. I personally think MS is going lay low for a bit, after the firestorm they experienced last week.

darthv725d ago

I really hope one of them is a long awaited sequel of heavenly sword or enslaved. Both are good games that deserve a 2nd chance... or at least a reboot.

blackblades5d ago

I'm 100% doubt its heavenly sword for obvious reason and Enslave 99% doubt it.

romulus235d ago

"Sony Computer Entertainment retains the intellectual property of Heavenly Sword", so that's not happening. Sony should let Santa Monica Studios make a Heavenly Sword sequel.

Rynxie5d ago

Santa Monica is a great studio, but I would rather the minds behind the original make it (ninja theory). I never liked sequels that were done by someone else, they are usually never as good as the original.

rlow15d ago

Enslaved would be awesome. If they did a remaster, then the next game in the series…..one can hope.

Yui_Suzumiya5d ago

Hopefully they'd get Evan Wells back for a sequel to Enslaved. After the original Enslaved he went on to Naughty Dog and did The Last of Us.

neutralgamer19924d ago

darth

HS IP is owned by sony and enslaved sold so poorly that you want a sequel now? let's say a sequel is made and sells like the first than this studio is for sure shut down. Their next game needs to be a big hit(if there is a next game)

rlow1

that's not how business works, if a studio needs to go it will go whether ot not that will come with negative PR. They just spent 100 billion and now they are in the phase to find out which studios will survive and which needs to go to cut costs. NT let a huge opportunity slip away, they had the backing of MS and the sequel has even less gameplay, that makes zero sense

Chevalier4d ago

How?! Sony owns one IP and Bandai owns the other one

Plague-Doctor274d ago

Heavenly Sword IP is owned by Sony and Enslaved IP is owned by Namco Bandai

Hellblade was the only IP that Ninja Theory themselves owned when MS acquired them

Sonic18814d ago

Heavenly Sword or Enslaved didn't sell that well

Cacabunga4d ago

NT completely lost it since dmc, their
last good game to date! And has been a long time since.
An average studio at best, got lured by MS money and forgot to improve

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Rynxie5d ago

They make quality games, but they're usually hit or miss. Either they are average, or they are awesome. However, besides heavenly sword and DMC, they aren't big sellers either. Ms is as big of a corporation as it gets. If ninja theory isn't making them money, they will shut them down. Simple as that.

MrDead5d ago

Studio survival no matter who is reliant on MS's quarterly reports, if MS is looking to save money then studios like Ninja Theory are gone as we've seen with Tango and others. MS has their IP's, the devs mean nothing to them but a handy tool to balance the books with layoffs.

DarXyde5d ago

Eh, maybe. Microsoft seems like a phenomenally wealthy company that's (generally) wise with how they handle their finances. What they're not wise with is how they spend social capital. As soon as they get it, they spend it by doing something nefarious. Can't say they're the only ones of course.

Will they get rid of Ninja Theory? No earthly idea. Honestly, I have a hard time even speculating about it because we don't have any details on performance metrics. If I had to guess... And really, this is is a guess... It's just about engagement. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. If you've got a popular mobile game or MTX-heavy multiplayer game, you're safe. King and Activision aren't going anywhere. Even if player count tapers off, MTX keep them in the game as a form of engagement.

But then you've got single player games. I suspect that's a losing battle because single player games, unfortunately don't get long term engagement broadly. So games launching half baked is perhaps a strategy for the studios themselves to get people coming back to their games? It would make some sense, but it doesn't match with studios being surprised at the closures.

All of this to say, we'll just have to wait and see. The simplest explanation with the most streamlined thinking on the matter is just that they're getting rid of studios they see as dead weight in the long run. HFR was quite well received, but I guess it doesn't translate into happy investors because it's critical acclaim and not commercial success exactly. Bethesda isn't going anywhere. Making very long RPGs kind of saves you automatically in terms of engagement.

But on the other side of this, while studios don't close per se, nothing stops them or any other company from just cutting the work force within each studio.

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Einhander19725d ago

It's not for no reason.

The reason is they made two games that were underwhelming (Bleeding Edge) and didn't/aren't going to grow the user base for game pass.

They spent 5-7 years and this was what they produced, it's easy to see how they would be on the short list for termination at this point.

Sciurus_vulgaris5d ago

One thing to point out was that all the recently closed studios were under Bethesda. Before being purchased by MS, Bethesda had a slew of poor or under performing titles (Evil Within 2, Prey (2017), Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, Young Blood, and initially Fallout 76 ). I don’t think, Ghost Wire Tokyo, Deathloop, Redfall and sadly even High-Fi: Rush performed well after the buyout.

Einhander19725d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I bet this game with a 5-7 year dev cycle being launched directly onto game pass is going to generate less tangible cash profit than any of those games.

I'm sure Microsoft will brag about players or sword swings or some other pointless statistic, but those don't make cash money.

Chevalier4d ago

You do realize it took 3 platforms and like 2 years to sell 1 million for Hellblade 1 right? Added in 3 more platforms and it didn't move much.

Now cut our 4 platforms. How many copies do you think this will sell?! Not just played on Gamepass

Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Apparently Ninja Theory is safe From being closed down https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Already working on a new game. They are a 80 person team and relatively inexpensive I suppose to any other publisher

Buuuuut.

Yeaah sorry this is MS, I don't believe anything MS says. They have to be joking if they think anyone will believe them besides gullible Xbox fanboys. Once again MS needs to earn my trust back. Just when they earn some trust back, they always seem to destroy it and have to work to get it back. I still think they're getting shut down and canceling whatever game they're making because the game won't sell, again MS fault for not advertising it.. This company man...

FPSRUSSIA5d ago

the article talks about that to i recommend checking it out when you get a chance.

romulus235d ago

Tango was probably working on something new as well.

outsider16245d ago

The problem with this game probably not selling will be because of Gamepass. Every comment i see from xbox players are "dude, no need to buy this amazing game, just get it on gamepass"

Will it sell well based on word of mouth? Will they release it on ps5? Will ps players buy this game vs free on gamepass? Time will tell.

JBlaze2265d ago

Look at what happened to Hi Fi Rush.The game was sold on PS5 and didn't sell well.

JBlaze2265d ago

I mean Sony has done worst and no one speaks up about it.

outsider16245d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Well i dont know about hi fi rush..as i didnt buy it. I mean others are getting it on gamepass..so ill just wait it for psplus. Im guessing others are doing the same..soo..

Sure Sony has done it too..and people are vocal about it. Look at the helldivers fiasco for example..they got called out.

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Knightofelemia5d ago

I don't see Microsoft shutting off the lights to Ninja Theory. As a studio they actually have talent and have released some decent games. I love Enslaved maybe a sleeper hit but it's one of my favorites. Only way I see Microsoft shutting off the lights is if Ninja Theory releases games that sink faster then a lead weight. And there are fans of Ninja Theory one thing I would hate to see is Ninja Theory ending up like Bioware. Loosing all their talent and being a former shell of what they use to be.

Elda5d ago

Never say never. Tango Gameswork were just as talented as Ninja Theory & they were shut down.

darthv724d ago

And they were also under Bethesda... Ninja Theory is not.

Profchaos4d ago

I honestly blame starfeild and Microsoft for the closure of arkane and tango it didn't turn a profit like other huge Bethesda games. If it .are fallout 4 money Bethesda would have had the capital to share among the other studios. Microsoft should of also had the ability to step in and save the studio but decided to kill them instead likely because of Bethesda's financial failure with starfield and Microsoft's stupid goal of turning gaming into a subscription that everyone and their grandmas subscribe to

shaenoide5d ago

To be honest for Microsoft (not Microsoft gaming) it's all about making for the 70 billion purchase of AKB. No matter how good the games are. If they don't generate sales or new gamepass subs the studios can be shutted down.

Rynxie5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Yes, they make decent games, but do they sell? Unfortunately, no. Heavenly sword sold 1.5 million, even when the ps3 had a much lower install base than the 360. However, it's not a ninja theory ip. Enslaved sold poorly. DMC, sold well, but that's also not a ninja theory ip. Hellblade was a hit, but in my opinion, barely. Hellblade 2, unfortunately, might be a flop. There's no bigger corporation than Ms, they are as corporate as they come. If ninja theory isn't making them money, they will get shut down and their ips giving to another studio.

Elda5d ago

It was just announced that MS gave NT the greenlight for its next game. I just hope it's not another Hellblade. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/...

shaenoide5d ago

Tango was working on a new game.

jznrpg5d ago

Xbox - Green light
MS - Red light

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Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 launch trailer will send shivers down your spine

Ninja Theory's latest trailer for their highly anticipated narrative action-adventure Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 is absolute cinema.

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Reaper22_7d ago

Like I said before, buying Ninja Theory was one of the smartest moves by Microsoft. Games looks incredible.

Rynxie6d ago

Unfortunately, their games aren't big sellers. Will MS shut them down if hellblade 2 sells below expectations?

outsider16246d ago

If it sells below expectations, then i expect it to come to PS5.

Elda6d ago

The game may be a critical hit & still can get shut down. I highly doubt most XB owners will buy this game including the fact that it's digital only at $50. Most folks that have Gamepass will play the game through the sub service. If the reviews tomorrow are just average to low then that's another problem.

Obscure_Observer6d ago

"Like I said before, buying Ninja Theory was one of the smartest moves by Microsoft. Games looks incredible."

Indeed.

Just a few hours to go

I can´t wait!

z2g7d ago

badass. already installed via gamepass. if its as great as the first one I will pay for the whole game.

glenn19796d ago

I just don't understand why all the down votes

jwillj2k46d ago

Here we go again. Is this a game or a choose your own adventure???

purple1016d ago

if you choose left, turn to page 39, if you proceed forward, turn to page 43, to turn right, page 209, you finished the book early,

no but seriously this looks like Microsofts first hit, or should I say, first game of standout quality.

jwillj2k46d ago

Never questioned the quality. Question is will there be a need for the controller.

anast6d ago

The time machine 'choose your own' were awesome.

Tedakin6d ago

If it's anything like the first game, you will spend a lot of timing walking and solving puzzles, with some fights thrown in.

Elda6d ago

LOL! Didn't send any shivers down my spine but I'll demo it after midnight tonight through Gamepass to see what it's giving.

Obscure_Observer6d ago

After the midnight? I see...

Day one as expected for another game that you said you had zero interest.

Elda6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Finally making a re-appearance. When the heat was on about XB closing studios you were crickets on all articles. Now that the heat has died down all of a sudden you're here on an XB exclusive article or should I say a timed exclusive...lol!! If you must know I can demo this game at midnight because the University I work at is closed for the summer so I can play video games until my heart's content until the end of August when I go back to work. That's what Gamepass is for, knowing I would not spend $50 on Hellblade 2 because the first one I thought was boring so I'm going to see if this one is still boring or is it interesting by demoing the game.

Elda6d ago

Why not I have a year subscription to Gamepass, I don't have to spend $50 on a digital only game that I may not like including I'm on a lengthy vacation from work.

rlow16d ago

It looks amazing, I’m hoping the reviews are solid. You can tell the studio really poured their heart and soul into this one.

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