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Are the days of demos numbered?

Game demos are about whetting the appetite, some say. If that's true, then Just Cause 2's was an all-you-can-eat buffet. You got to gorge on 35 square miles of the Lautan Lama Desert for a joyous 30 minutes at time. Over two million copies of the demo were downloaded, resulting in 2.5 million headshots and a million drivers kicked from vehicles, according to the developer's stats. Someone even made a mod for the demo.

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AnthonyAccinell5065d ago

Playstation Plus just released with full game demo's for every game. This is ridiculous.

wicko5065d ago

This is a pretty big departure from the standard demo though. And its probably a much better idea. Costs less for the developer (all thats required is a time limit), players don't waste their time as they can continue where they left off if they bought the game, as opposed to 0 progress using a standard demo. But I wouldn't say demos are dying out, just evolving.

TheTeam065065d ago

Definitely. It would seem much easier for developers. It's something Sony should pitch to them. Having trophies locked until you buy the game is a good move, too. It'll tempt the biggest Trophy whores into buying it if they make a lot of progress in a game.

NecrumSlavery5065d ago

Demos need creativity. A gig worth of the game's code isn't a demo. Let it be something different. I like how GOW 3 and Arkham's demos were custom pieced together to give you an idea, but not blowing any secrets. Those actual parts of the game are very different.

I personally think all demos should be prologues. Something seperate that pulls you into the story. The games can have that in them too. But I'd like uniqueness like that over a
Set pulled from the game.

WildArmed5065d ago

I would prefer demos.
I've spend ALOT more than 1 hour (the time limit for Infamous Full game trial) in the Uncharted Drake's fortune alone. So I'd prefer to have a small section, I can try again and again then to be limited to a one hour test drive and decide on that.

I'm not saying Full Game Trials are bad, I think they are a great addition to PSN. Too bad I already had inFAMOUS otherwise I'd be all over the Full Game Trial..
So i have no hands on with Full Game Trials atm.. didn't feel like downloading 6gb for a game I already own. But from what I understand, after 1 hour, you buy or delete it. It may or may not be enough for me to establish a concrete judgment about the game (to buy or not to buy). Esp. if the game is story/cutscene intensive, I don't know how much gameplay I could squeeze out of the game without losing an integral part of the gaming (the plot).

Darkstorn5065d ago

I have to agree. The first hour of a game is usually not indicative of the full experience. Short, sectional demos can offer the exact experience that the developer wants to market.

That being said, I want to see the Playstation Plus route practiced further, as it is an interesting approach.

ReservoirDog3165065d ago

Yeah, like the first hour or so of Uncharted 1 is very very very slow paced. Fun because of the exploring but slow paced. After the first few chapters though, it speeds up significantly.

That one hour demo would be pretty bad (in terms of sheer excitement) for Uncharted 1.

MariaHelFutura5065d ago

Demos are a fairly new thing in gaming.

Darkstorn5065d ago

Not necessarily. I remember getting demo discs for games back in the early 90s. Hardly a 'new thing in gaming.'

MariaHelFutura5065d ago

I meant in the way we get them and the ammount we get. It use to be demo discs and stuff like that. It was way different.

WildArmed5065d ago

Yeah demo distribution has changed ALOT.
Before you used to get a demo disc when you buy a PlayStation. Now you can just download the 100s of demos available on Live or PSN or WiiWare.

Before demo's used to barely reach most of the gamers, but now they are widely accessible, like never before.
I remember I used to send those PS info cards to get new demo discs for my PS1 about 14 years ago xD Or stay at a gaming store for hours and hours to play a full game for free! (they used to have full games up back then! Since not all retailers had a demo disc).

MP demo's have become more and more dominant now... followed by a strict time limit for the servers being live xD (Burnout Paradise, LoTR.. etc etc)
I'm surprised Fat Princess Demo is still live :D

ReservoirDog3165065d ago

I used to get a bunch of demos from pizza hut I think. That's where I got my MGS1 and Medievil demos.

NastyLeftHook5064d ago

maybe......................... ............................... .........

ULTIMATE_REVENGE5065d ago

No demo, no buy.

It's as simple as that.

Darkstorn5065d ago

I wouldn't go that far. I bought Uncharted 2 and Brutal Legend without playing the demos and had an amazing time with both games.

WildArmed5065d ago

While it is not as extreme to me,
demo plays a huge factor in determining to get the game.
I played Uncharted Drake's Fortune Demo over 100 times then I just HAD to pick up the game lol
Same goes for inFAMOUS and resident evil 5..

On the other hand, it some games totally lost my interest due to the lack of a good demo. See: Dark Void or the first bad company.

Blaine5065d ago

for new IP, almost certainly. For games I'm on the fence about buying, definitely.

Most games: no demo, no buy. Agreed. Some games are sure things though (mostly sequels, or games from established devs and directors).

Blaine5065d ago

Sets out to answer a question, never does, and goes off its own topic.

AvP demo didn't get hated on because it was mp only, it got hate because IT DIDN'T FUCKING WORK. Took 30 minutes to connect to a game, then you got disconnected before the match was over.

The article also quotes Pachter as saying that sequels don't need demos, new IPs do (fair enough, I agree), and then in the next chapter they quote another source saying the best selling games of 2008 didn't have demos. WERE THEY SEQUELS? I THINK SO.

The article goes nowhere. Basically says "demos are here to stay, make your demo post-game release to ensure best quality." There, saved you a read.

John Kratos5065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

I sure hope not because I just bought DeathSpank like ten minutes ago from just playing the demo. I do agree with that guys idea of releasing a demo after a game has came out. Because usually the only time I download a demo is for low profile games like Just Cause that I don't buy day one or week one. It wouldn't bother me to get demos for those type of games at a later time. Now big games like God of War or Halo I get day one most of the time so I don't really need a demo for them.

DelbertGrady5064d ago

Trial demos for XBLA games are awesome. I'm going to pick it up when it's released over here tonight.

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The Alters Q&A - Creating a Game About the Roads Not Taken

Wccftech interviewed The Alters Lead Designer Rafał Włosek to learn more about the making of The Alters and its feature set.

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Black Ops 6 Calling Card Being Given Out; Marketing Begins as Content Creators Receive Beeper

Gamers can now get a Black Ops 6 Calling Card that'll be in-game at launch. Activision sending old school pagers to content creators.

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5 PlayStation Exclusive Games That Look Better Than Hellblade 2

The Nerd Stash: "Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 has some of the best graphics on Xbox, but there are PlayStation games that look even better."

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PrinceOfAnger1d 5h ago

Lol some sony fans now disagreeing with DF !?
They said :
Hellblade 2 is a defining moment in the evolution of real-time graphics".

(The Next Level in Real-Time Visuals)

Game
Takes advantage of everything UE5 offers
- Final game 'lives up to the lofty expectations' of the 2019 reveal
- Character rendering sets new standards and nearly resembles movie sequences with actual actors
- Leverages Unreal's Meta Human 5 to bypass the uncanny valley feel
- DF were left guessing whether some cut-scenes were in-game or real life footage (photo mode shows they're all real time)

Also
https://i.ibb.co/m4zMw3M/20...
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https://i.ibb.co/2YtX6Tv/20...

Right now nothing on PS looks better than HB2.

PrinceOfAnger1d 4h ago

5 PlayStation Exclusive Games" also on PC..
so what Exclusive? No one here confesses and accepted the word "Console exclusive". they were making jokes about it!
😂

FTLmaster1d 4h ago

Isn't Hellblade 2 on PC?

PrinceOfAnger1d 4h ago

@FTLmaster

Sony fans were making jokes first about the word " Console exclusive" here and on other sites.
Now they use the word by themselves.
Lol

P_Bomb1d 3h ago

I write console exclusive all the time. I use it in Xbox’s favor too. Those are the games I generally go after over there.

MrDead10h ago

Now I understand who these articles are written for.

Just buy and support the game so MS doesn't shut down Ninja Theory.

S2Killinit2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

You cant really talk when xbox has all its games released elsewhere. Not a good look.

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PrinceOfAnger10h ago

This article says Bloodborne and Ghost of Tsushima has better graphics than Hellblade 2 i'm done! 🤣

S2Killinit2h ago

DF can talk from its arse all it wants. I’m sure they are spending their advertising money wisely.

Nacho_Z1h ago

People are free to disagree with DF, it's debatable how impartial they are.

The article is a bit of a stretch though. Hellblade has an open goal graphically because it's using the latest tech on small areas with crap framerate so the fidelity is through the roof. It's not impressive to me personally but it's an achievement that shouldn't be denied.

S2Killinit56m ago

Yes. But then a picture can be extremely beautiful but you cant really play it. Hellblade must be beautiful but it has low frames, and its pretty much on rails so it does not really impress me personally.

neutralgamer199210m ago(Edited 9m ago)

what good are graphics when rest of the game is a walking sim (coming from a pc fan) if it's only about graphics than any game can push the boundary but that's without much gameplay

to me gears of war 5 is more impressive because it had the graphics and gameplay to back it up, just like uncharted 2 back in the day. Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart is also up there.

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darthv721d 3h ago

Okay, I've played all of those, and they looked good for their time. This game just takes realism to a whole other level. some would even say uncanny valley-esq at times.

Maybe that's why people are having a hard time with this game... its almost too real and makes them uneasy about it.

Bathyj1h ago

I doubt that's it. The game has woorde problems than that.

rlow123h ago

lol, really???? The title sounds so desperate. Those games are excellent but not in the same league.

ravens521h ago

..."not in the same league graphics wise*" Fixed it so you don't sound too crazy. Also not sure its in "another league" but I haven't seen it in person so 🤷🏽 idk.

S2Killinit54m ago

I would say those games are on a much higher level because Hellblade is a game made to look great but its not on par when it comes to how it is linear with small playing areas and low frames. Anyone can do that, but is it a good game? No.

MrDead11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

...now I remember why I hate gaming media, it's because 99.9% are like this article.

purple1017h ago

yeh, probably gonna have to wait for 'Death Stranding 2: On the beach', to get better environments and facial animation than this.

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