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3xG: How The PS3 Tables Have Turned

3xg says: "It was no secret that when Sony launched their PS3 it was over priced and lacked features.

The console was ridiculed by the press and gamers alike for good reason and it cost Sony dearly. Fast forward to 2010 and the landscape has completely changed, the original underdog of this generation fast becoming the top dog."

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Quagmire5084d ago

It's a fine day to be owning a PS3.

nix5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

yup.. it's paying off huge! great AAA exclusive games to play all thru the year!!!

i laugh at the haters!

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"For those that want the punch line (I’m looking at you N4G peeps), the main difference between now and back in 2006 are:

* Wealth of games on offer
* Free and premium services that enrich the experience
* Strong ties with big companies
* Innovation and Collaboration
* Influential marketing and good sales
* Powerful technology only now being effectively utilised"

Conloles5084d ago

The exclusives arent paying off if your going off of sales.

Corepred45084d ago

what kind of idiot goes off sales? does anybody here own stock? i buy the games i want so i can have fun. lmao conloles you nerd, lmao. go play wow.

8800gtx5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

@Nix

I might be old and called ancient now a days. 100usd gpus make me look obselete. Equip me with any dual core cpu and i will handily stream roll whatever my predecessor the RSX + CELL can put out.

8800gtx.

rockleex5084d ago

Yea right. The 60GB PS3 has the MOST features any console had ever seen.

It was also underpriced by $200-$300. Sony was losing a lot of money on each PS3 sold.

That's the facts.

Now you can give us your opinion on whether you find enough value in the old PS3 to buy it at $599, but its just that... an opinion.

MorganX5084d ago

That's all nice and all. But don't forget, PS3 had the PlayStation brand behind it. The price drop is the biggest thing IMO.

The games are great too. But nothing trumps price. Just ask Nintendo.

rockleex5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

There's a difference between costing a lot, and being overpriced.

sikbeta5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

"It was no secret that when Sony launched their PS3 it was over priced and lacked features"

Sorry, but the Best Models are The Fat Models, with more stuff than the Slim Models, the PS3 Fat with BC have 10 years of Gaming Library since Day One...

Now the PS3, no matter What Model, it's the Best Console out there, it gives you more for you money, have loads of Features, Exclusives are Awesome and Sony keep adding more features and making more Awesome Games, you can't hate a Console that Support you the Best way possible...

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Raf1k15084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

I'd say it was expensive not overpriced

He says it was overpriced and lacked features when it actually had pretty much all the features it has now plus BC which was removed and I don't think it was overpriced. It was certainly expensive though.

The reason I say that is because it had a whole lot of very expensive tech that cost more than it was being sold for. BluRay players at the time were at least another £400 above the cost of the PS3 which could do so much more. It would have been overpriced if it was like an iPhone in that you don't get much for your money. The reason I didn't buy it until a year ago was because it was expensive as a games console.

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Spenok5083d ago

Its been a fine day since day one xD

ThanatosDMC5083d ago (Edited 5083d ago )

Lacked features? There were a ton of features no other console on the market could do. Then even more after the months went by with firmware updates. Oh well, it's his opinion.

But yeah, i do agree with the article at his core points. The $600+ i bought my fatty with was well worth it.

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Substance1015084d ago

Its still a loss making project for Sony. Infact for the last two years the gaming division has been pulling the entire company into losses.

WildArmed5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

aww..
and u really care about sony's financial situation i bet.

quite frankly, I could careless.

I'm still getting the best out of my Ps3 with it's amazing games, internet browser, etc.

NJShadow5084d ago

Actually, they WERE losing on each console sold until a short time after the PS3 Slim was released along with the price cut. NOW they are making a profit on each console, albeit very little ATM.

Substance1015084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

check the financials report. Last year alone was at 850+million usd loss. Which led the company o make a overall net loss of 450million usd, thats more money then most people will be making in alife time.

NJShadow5084d ago

No kidding. The price cut and Slim released happened in early September, I don't think a mere 3 months is enough to put Sony in the black. Obviously they still had a year's worth of losses to make up for.

mattygamefreak5084d ago

What's that? Sony is the only company that cares about their customers enough to lose millions of dollars and still provide the best gaming and media solution to date? Yeh, that's what I thought.

4D5084d ago

Sony didn't make the PS3 because they cared about their loyal customers. Especially at the $600.00 USD launch price point. Bottom line is they used the PS3 as a trojan horse for Blu-Ray. So congrats to them for winning the high definition medium war against HD-DVD.

I seriously hope that you were just acting like a fanboy and you dont actually believe that Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo actually care about any of us. They may care about getting our money but that is where the buck stops. Pun intended...

thief5084d ago

Why should we, as gamers, want gaming companies to make huge profits? Why should we favour Nintendo, selling a last-gen machine for $249, over Sony selling a $299 console that has infinitely greater processing and graphics card power, next-gen disc drive, hard disc, much better online, and supports a larger number of in-house studios which create new IPs?

And this might be an issue if Sony were making such huge losses that they would need to close down PS. In fact, for what they have lost in the past, their cash flows in the next few years look fantastic. There is enough demand for Sony to keep selling at $299, while their costs after moving to slim and 40nm may be close or lower – and that’s before accounting for profits on game sales on 30-40m consoles.

INehalemEXI5084d ago

That happens everytime a new hardware is launched. They make an investment to make money over a decade.

Same thing happened with PS2 in its early years, but over a 10+ year life cycle PS2 eventually brought in mad dough.

Newtype5084d ago

Since PS2 did so well, they could take the loss the PS3 did.

Substance1015084d ago

Check the records, PS2 was profitable in its 2nd year after launch. Infact PS2 was doing so well while the rest of the company was struggling due to intense competition in the other electronic markets.

PS3 in its 4th year is causing the entire company to run in losses.

IMChampion5084d ago

Don't really get why you car how their financials are, from my perspective its all about the games and they have been delivering. I guess you just need to tell yourself that they are still loosing some "war" thats going on in your and many fanboys out there head to feel better about only owning one console.

aaronisbla5084d ago

thats the post of a butthurt person

Newtype5084d ago

All consoles are at a loss, the only company that didn't lose sales for selling their console was Nintendo.

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supremacy5084d ago

matter Sony makes its profits through its games, plus the latest batch of slims that came out sporting smaller chip cells and rsx have the ps3slim going even, so no longer is Sony losing money on ps3s.

This is why they had the shortage earlier this year around the god of war 3 launch, because they wanted this new model out there instead. http://www.techspot.com/new...

Plus with all the exclusives coming out they will make their money back if not more than what they spend making said games.

Another thing to note is, both the new 360 and ps3 slim are at the same price this alone makes the ps3slim (with bluray) more attractive while keeping Sony profitable.

Not to mention that at the same time they still got the ps2 system out there making them profitability as well. Sony only spends about 54 on each ps2 made and they sell them things for double the price of that so...yeah Sony is good my friend.

supremacy5084d ago

"The exclusives arent paying off if your going off of sales."

its funny but all Sony has to sell with each of its games is about 2 million and they generate profit suitable enough anything after this point is consider surplus in their check books. besides ps3 games tend to sell in a longer periodic time frame, with the exception of god of war which by the way was the only game in all platforms to break a mill within a weeks time in the month of march.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai1d 13h ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19721d 4h ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19721d 4h ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 21h ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz1d 2h ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay1d 2h ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers30d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken29d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g30d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing30d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H930d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola29d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66930d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle30d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

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jznrpg30d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos30d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola30d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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