Why the FF Versus 13 confirmation is bogus

Examiner: "Although it makes perfect sense for Final Fantasy Versus XIII to be going multiplatform after the recent success of Final Fantasy XIII on the Xbox 360, there is no way a huge megaton announcement like this would be mentioned in a one sentence blurb tucked away in the corner of a page."

[Joule]

Nobody wants a crippled game.

[Xander756]

LoL I don't think a 360 version would ruin the game.

[Joule]

Look how FF13 came out :X

[kratos123]

^

[ThanatosDMC]

Expect it a huge amount of content to be cut if it becomes multiplat... remember MS doesnt want a lot of disks per game. I doubt they want to stomach more than 4 dvds.

[Donny]

keep this game exclusive to maximize its potential.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

XIII had no towns, was linear as lines, no shops, no airships, etc. All of which are included in Versus XIII. You were saying?

Wada was shocked at the reaction of the 360 rumor and went on to deny the existence of it.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/0...

I doubt he'd be able to sleep ever again knowing he has rabid Square-Enix fanboys stalking his every move. As pointed out, E3 just passed. Why didn't Microsoft say anything about it? This isn't the first time Game Informer reports on false information. Seems to me like they simply passed a baseless rumor as fact.

[ThanatosDMC]

It'll end up like this again: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

FF13 gets booed on stage.

[glassjoe2k8]

It's pathetic that a fanboy internet rumor can be kicked around so long that it actually becomes gospel somewhere!!! Fucking astounding!

Did FFX13 have minor visual downgrades on 360? Sure. Was the video/audio somewhat compressed? Yep. Did either of these things have an effect on the PS3 version? Nope.

As to the questions of content, it has been claimed by the game's producer that ideas were cut, but that happens in EVERY video game. Developers shoot for the moon and then dial back. If anything had ever been made, it would be dlc by now. They said themselves nothing else was programmed, and we know the decision for a 360 port wasn't even made until a few years into production, not to mention the conversion didn't happen until AFTER the PS3 version was completed.

This game, as everyone associated with it has said, was meant to capture a new audience, one who wanted fast paced action without all the plodding conventions of old rpg's (i.e. TOWNZ!!!111). It was marketed using western pop/r&b for god's sake! Grow up kids, and get real lives and stop making up lies.

[nnotdead]

you are right glass. as of right now there is no proof, only speculation, that the 360 caused any sort of down grade to FFXIII.

also would like to say, i am 25 or so hours into FFXIII and the game is great. i don't understand the hate that this games is getting.

[rockleex]

The game is still exactly the same as it was the first 5 hours.

All the characters are still in almost exactly the same situation they were in 40 hours ago.

What exactly happened in those 40-50 hours? Nothing.

They could have taken out the story and I wouldn't even notice, because that's how lacking it was.

The gameplay only consisted of corridors after corridors of fighting. No exploration. No information gathering. No world development.

The only exploration you get is AFTER you have reached the end of the game and realize that although you can now explore, the exploration consists of just MORE FIGHTING.

[MadMan00]

LOL, people just jumping on the wagon, people forget to look at the fact SE has sucked for quite sometime now...360 has nothing to do with it.

SE has sucked this Gen, simple as that.

[ThanatosDMC]

I can agree with that.

[Myze]

Squenix as a whole has sucked this generation. However, Nomura is one of the few developers they still have that I have some faith in. Also, Squenix has not released one exclusive ps3 game, so it's impossible to know for sure if they would make a better game if they were limited less.

I also sincerely believe the game will lose content if it's restricted by going multiplatform. RPGs are very different from other game types. They usually contain far more locales, and in the case of a FF game, it will be loaded with cutscenes, a huge soundtrack, etc.

That, on top of the stuff that vsXIII is going to have such as semi-open world, airships, huge locations, etc. You can't have a game like that work on just a couple of DVD discs, because a huge chunk of that data will have to be repeated on each disc. To make room for all the cutscenes and disc-unique music, they will be able to fit very little other than that and the repeated stuff.

To all the 360-loyalists: this isn't about graphics. While I do believe the game would look better overall as an exclusive (as most exclusives do), I'm sure it would still look ok as multiplatform. However, I know I'm not ignorant enough to believe they wouldn't cut content from BOTH versions to make sure one version isn't inferior. That is a poor business practice, but Wada is a poor CEO. Release inferior games, and sooner or later that little bit of extra you make at first will dwindle to nothing when no one wants the mediocrity you produce.

[Xander756]

I agree SE isn't what they used to be. Final Fantasy hasn't been good since FF9. I think they need to make a new old school RPG. Like how Capcom made an old school Megaman. I think an old style RPG would sell well on the arcade.

[xskipperx82]

FFXIII was planned from the beginning to be the way that it was. The 360 port didn't change a thing.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

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[glassjoe2k8]

Your repulsive physical appearance and immature love of lame internet memes is what's astounding to me...

[hot4play]

You actually believe that? :(

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Nomura is the Chief of this Project, not Wada.

And Nomura being a Chief of this Final Fantasy, it is 99% sure it will stay Exclusive for PS3.

If Wada was working on Versus, it is more than 50% Versus would be multiplatform. But Wada is not the Chief and not working on Versus.

Nomura it is like Hideo Kojima on real MGS Series. So expect something epic.

Wada take the whole project of FFXIII as the Chief, and Nomura only had 1 role (Main Character Designer) in that game and look how it turned out that Final Fantasy.

Now Nomura is the Chief in FFXIII Versus with 4 Roles, Director, Character Main Designer, Base Story and Producer (like FFVII).

Do you agree that Final Fantasy VII is one of the best FF ever created?

Why? Because Nomura was the chief of that project, also with Kingdom Hearts and he was working in Advent Children and a lot FF Games without Wada.

Wada is not working in this FF Versus.

Didn't you guys read that article saying Nomura threatened Wada to leave Square Enix if Wada make FFXIII Versus multiplatform?

[glassjoe2k8]

If I was born in the 1990's, yeah I might agree FF7 is 'teh best evar!!111', but I wasn't and I won't. It was fun for a console rpg designed during its era, but nothing more.

An unlikable 'hero', a poor translation, a muddled plot, goofy dialogue, and a mediocre battle system do not make for an epic rpg.

[Redrum059]

I didn't know numora threatn to leave enix, thatz some real ass shit. To hell with wada.

[DigitalAnalog]

Your comment:

"Did FFX13 have minor visual downgrades on 360? Sure. Was the video/audio somewhat compressed? Yep. Did either of these things have an effect on the PS3 version? Nope."

I really hate repeating myself to people like you. Here's a quote from Nomura below:

"Also on his stance on the PlayStation 3 in regards to Final Fantasy XIII at that time being exclusive to that platform, Nomura stated via QJ.net “It’s not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put on one go and how big our imagination and ideas are." (NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS AND MORE AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT, something that is CLEARLY lacking in FFXIII).

"The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination" <-- There, he said it.

-End statement

[Redrum059]

Bubbles

Ppl just don't understand that ff13 was gimped because of DVD9.

[NumeroUno]

This is true

[Omega4]

Likely be timed SE can't ignore a 1ml userbase from FF13

[Sunny_D]

Hmmm, well I think when another consoles sells more than triple the amount of another console. I think they can ignore it. Plus, how many of those sales weren't actual bundles? I mean if they were selling bundles, it's not like the consumer wanted it in the first place.

[Xander756]

That doesn't make sense. Why would someone buy the FF13 bundle when it costs more than just the console if they didn't want FF13?

[Newtype]

I sell them, and people just wanted the extra controller. They end up selling FFXIII though.

[andfed]

It doesn´t work like that in the real world. It sold more on the ps3 that on the 360, but SE made more money than just release it as an exclusive. They couldnt care less wich system sold more copies, they just want to broad their sales as much as they can

[Redrum059]

Actualy, u r wrong, it cost them more money to make a port for the 360 then they made on sales, ff13 barely sold on 360 worldwide to be able to make a big enough profit for their porting costs.

[fantasygamer]

Buy a PS3 if you want it Omega4. ^-^

[Lionhead]

Omega would have to give up his trolling ways if he owned a PS3 though

He can't do that

Loyal to Microsoft til the end, keep spreading the good word about Microsoft to us all Omega.

/s

[Deathracer]

According to you I'm a troll, but I own a PS3 so what does that make me?

Honestly FF for me has gone down the hill since 8, so I could care less what happens to FF unless that remake of 7 ever happens, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

EDIT: I'm not the one getting offended, you always seem to pop up on my comments saying how much of a troll I am, so it seems your the one who is offended. You can say what ever you want about me, I don't care. I just want to know what you think I am since I own a PS3 yet you call me a troll. Also I do know what I am, I'm a gamer and I enjoy all types of games what ever the platform may be, which is exactly why I own a PS3 and an Xbox.

Yea your right, I got offended /s

[Lionhead]

Anything I'd say you would take offense to, so why bother?

You know what you are.

Looks like someone got offended.

[ViciousBoston]

my Best Buy (I work there) still has all 4 each store was alloted. I tried to sell one and a customer laughed at me and walked off. I was kinda happy at it though lol.

[Newtype]

Dude, I work at Best Buy too. It's hard to sell an Xbox to people when the PS3 is right next to it.

[KILLERAPP]

Is probably time exclusive, it comes out on PS3 for six months to a year and latter comes out on 360, MS has another big stupid announcement at E3 like FF13… Is all about the money after all, even if they have cut half of the game they will put it on 6 discs if they have too to make fit and sell it…

[LordMarius]

Has anybody actually reached out to Gameinformer and find out if it was an error or not instead of just speculating

[JD_Shadow]

No, just like no one has dared to even TOUCH this rumor PERIOD so far beyond the no-name blogs, the blogs and fanboys that are hoping and praying that it does happen only to get bragging rights (and shun off whoever brings up any common sense, most gamers are against a multiformat announcement for the game), and those that don't want it to be true for the game's sake. No one has contacted GI, and no one that we know of has even contacted SE about it.

You'd think at SOME point that SOMEONE would actually try to get it confirmed or denied, because apparently Wada's backpedal wasn't enough for anyone to shut up about this and people are still talking about and are concerned that it will hamper the game's quality or release date, and if this is true, then that means that SE has heard all of the gamers and listened to NONE of them, and are bigger liars than we thought they were already.

[Xander756]

Well it is GameInformer Austrailia and I have no idea how I would go about contacting them to ask about this.

[booni3]

the confirmation is bogus because it isnt official but i just hate hearing fanboy dummies trolling around blaming the xbox for the trash that is FFXIII. I mean, your blaming a console for a bad game: that makes very little since because the console didnt make it, SE did.

[Bathyj]

So if Valve made Halflife 3 for the PS2 and it was crap, who would you blame?

I guess you're right, you cant blame the PS2, it can only do what it can do. The blame would go to Valve for the poor decision in the first place.

Dont you realise everything starts in the planning process, and if they planned it to run on PS2 then that trickles down and effects every aspect of the game?

[Gamer_Z]

"In an interview over with art director Isamu Kamikokuryou has him saying that the team removed enough extra locations from the title to make up a whole other game entirely. Sections cut include a secret base for Snow's hero squad, a character's home that included a park, and even a zoo inside one of the game's amusement park areas. This is all more impressive when you consider that Square Enix is expecting to need three DVDs to hold everything that's still in the Xbox 360 version of the game."

Publisher Capcom has confirmed that it was forced to cut a “significant” amount of content from the Xbox 360 version of upcoming shooter Lost Planet 2 thanks to the lack of space available on DVDs compared to Blu-ray.

“This time, truly, the content that was cut was significant,” producer Jun Takeuchi explained, as spotted by Kotaku. “In the end, we had to wrestle with disc space."

I think this answers your question why people get upset when a game like FF Versus goes multiplatform, if it does go multiplatform.

[Omega Zues]

Trust me, after playing FFXIII. I pray Versus stays exclusive.

[gamer7804]

This article presented no new facts and is speculative. No one knows for sure either way, but there are rumors supporting it as a multiplatform release.

[Unicron]

Again, I'm more interested in the quality of the game itself, which we still know very little about. I still picture it as a mature take on Kingdom Hearts style gameplay. FFXIII was disappointing, utterly, to me.

If more gamers can enjoy this title then awesome.

[NYC_Gamer]

well 3rd party companies cant afford to be exclusive now days...

[Basil-Rathboner]

I know you want to gimp this Wada you lying greedy b@st@rd, but i can tell you i have a particular set of skills, skills i have acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for greedy game gimpers like you.
If you keep this PS3 exclusive that will be the end of it, i will not look for you, i will not pursue you but if you make this multi-platform i will look for you, i will find and i will lock you in a padded cell and make you play Kinect for the rest of your life!

[Hacker]

lol gimp.......xbox360 is more than capable when it comes to graphics take a look at Crysis 2 and Rage also Gears 3 and Halo Reach xbox360 isn't gimping any game.

[Basil-Rathboner]

If brains were dynamite.
You wouldn't have enough to blow your hat off.

[ukilnme]

@ Basil-Rathboner

You have less than that sooooo...

[blumatt]

Nice "Taken" reference. Bubbles up.

[Bathyj]

Uhm, isnt FFXIII considered a bit of a debacle? And alot of the game design choices (or lack of choices in this case) fall squarely on the shoulders of the X360.

C'mon guys, fanboy aside, 360 stunk this game up and we all know it. We all predicted it and guess what, turned out we were right.

And to say SE have sucked for a while now, yeah pretty much since they've been giving all their loving to a userbase that doesnt care about their genre and ingnoring who made them over the last 15 years.

They can easily afford to make a PS3 exclusive. Had FFXIII been exclusive you would lose the XB sales but it would have sold more on PS3 than it did. If you dont think gimping a game for a lesser console effects the sales on PS3, you're mad. Its a real thumb to the eye and alot of people wouldnt have got it for that.

[KILLERAPP]

They can do it PS3 exclusive but MS will open there deep pockets and pay to have it on their system, didn’t you see they say there looking into the possibilities of making it in the 360 there just saying, MS if you want this game you have to pay up once more, since MS barely have a first party game they have the power to invest in this kind of things… In a perfect world both FF 13 and ff 13 VS would be PS3 exclusive and take full Advantech of the PS3 hardware but this is not the perfect world… We all know MS loves to say we stole an exclusive…

[Whitefox789]

The whole entirety of FF 13 was a mess.

They started development for the PS2 scrapped it. Then decide to make it for the next generation of consoles. Decide to make it for the PS3 work exclusively with the development of the game for the PS3 for 2 years then announce they were going multiplatform so scrap all the development keep the design. Edit the White Engine to become Crystal Tools. I think I've covered enough I guess :D.

I remember when the Microsoft PR said that FF 13 was going to sell more on the 360 even though it remained exclusive to the PS3 in Japan where about 55% of the FF fan base is located.

[Spenok]

Unfortunatly you speak the truth. Lets just hope the same doesnt happen with VSXIII

[DJexs]

The only reason I think xbox 360 is crippling is the fact that it isn't bluray I mean bluray can hold over 70gb of data how much can a dvd hold?

[Newtype]

50 GB! Not 70. Although, there are BD that house up to 200GB. PS3 needs a upgrade bluray drive. Speed sucks.

[DJexs]

are you an idiot.

let me paraphrase what you said:

Blurays cannot hold over seventy gb they only hold 50 unless you are talking about those blurays that hold 200gb but then you are still wrong because that is well over 70gb

[Whitefox789]

I don't think an upgrade for the Bluray drive would improve the speed since their is so much data on the disk the laser has to be shorter then a dvd laser. Thus lowering its read speed.

[Truth]

I've come to the realization that the XBOX 360 has ruined some of my favorite games. And ports of good games too. So therefore we can conclude that either the developers must be smacked across their lazy faces, or everyone with an XBOX 360 must be smacked for allowing these crappy ports to continue. I think if it was happening at the alarming rate it is for the PS3 to you 360 owners you'd be up in arms too, eh?

/endrant

[XactGamer]

What took so long for this to come?

[beardpapa]

a thing I learned from n4g is that even if a person says they also own a ps3, it doesn't mean jack. Why? Because of the many pictures I've seen of so-called multiconsole owners, I only noticed like 2-3 ps3 games versus 20+ 360 games.

another thing I learned from n4g is that it isn't ruled by ps3 fanboys or 360 fanboys. Why? Look at the degrees on the side of the main page. If it were ruled by a majority, we'd only see heavy degrees of stuff favoring one faction.

[Bellcross]

I hope it will be released next year so it can erase that piece of crap FFXIII from our memories, that game horrible, and I thought FFX-2 was bad.

can't wait to see it at TGS.

[ukilnme]

Please SE. Make it great and make it multiplatform for more gamers to enjoy.

[Basil-Rathboner]

You are living proof that evolution can go in reverse.
If you asked me how to fly a Kite.
I would tell you to run off a cliff.

[ukilnme]

Basil-Rathboner

You are living proof that your mom and dad are brother and sister.
If your dad was smart he would have pulled out or used protection instead of planting a worthless seed.
I would tell your mom to swallow next time.

It's ok if the mods ban me. I don't care anymore.

[Booyah]

@ukilnme - I so LOL'd at that.... but aside from that, I understand that more gamers should enjoy this jewel from NOMURA, but dude... look at FF13... I know its all based on speculation of how FF13 turned out to be a crappy game becuz of the 360. but I'd like to see a FF13v exclusives as I've always associated FF to a SONY brand. But thats just my opinion.

[glassjoe2k8]

As far as I can tell, there are 6 people on this site, 5 of which are ps3 owners and have 10 accounts each and one of which is a 360 owner who has about 7. All 6 spend their entire day agreeing w/their own comments, and disagreeing with the one 360 owner.

No grown up with a brain would come here and actually click 'disagree' without ever giving a single argument behind it that wasn't 'but you're wrong and I'm gonna make fun of you', which is why I've just resorted to calling you all a bunch of fat ugly losers. Honestly, at least I'm the only one telling the goddamn truth in that instance! /AgreesWithHimself

[0oAngeluso0]

More consoles means more people online right? I cant see the downside. I know the last FF game online was on Xbox 360, PS2 and P.C.
I don't think that turned out bad at all, I mean you had to have the HDD on the PS2 to play it, which was kind of expensive. This is solid news if your a fan of the series and only have an Xbox 360.
There shouldn't really be any arguing, more people means more fun IMHO. More competition and more friends.
At the end of the day no matter what console your gaming on, were all gamers. That's that matters.

[Lavalamp]

Wrong game my friend. Versus is a singleplayer only experience. You are thinking of Final Fantasy 14, which is an MMO.

[Whitefox789]

I'll ignore any rumor or magazine that says FF 13 Versus is going multiplatform until I actually hear a word from Tetsuya Nomura

Until then I'll say it is still PS3 exclusive

[hot4play]

PS3 exclusive. If you have a PS3, it wouldn't be a problem, right?

[LeonhartX]

for all the trolls up there u get us wrong. when we say please stay exclusive it doesn't we want it way from 360 gamers it means we want the game to fulfill its potential even if its 360 exclusive it's okay at least it will concentrate on one platform

[Apone]

Why can't they, IF it goes Multiplat, leave the PS3 version untouched and create a alternate version for the 360?

[yogaflame]

well the official website says it is ps3 but until wada gets more money

[jneul]

We all want FFvs13 to be the best RPG SE has made in years, I don't know why any of you can't understand that when you go multi you have to comprimise, becuase you all of a sudden have to make it work for boh consoles, now seen as ps3 and x360 work totally differently, there are points where SE had to remove certain thing/s to make the game work for both consoles and before you disagree and argue it was because it was designed for PS2, not even FFX was that bad and it was designed for the ps2.