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Square Enix "still talking with Microsoft" on FF14 for 360

The Producer of Final Fantasy XIV has told RPG Site that his development team and the company are still in talks with Microsoft regarding bringing the Square Enix MMO to the Xbox 360.

NegativeCreepWA5066d ago

I think there's something a lot mmo devs are not saying about MSs Live polices for mmos. Which is strange since FFXI and PSU have are already on the 360.

We keep hearing the same thing from every one that's making or has tried to make an mmo for the 360.

AP5066d ago

I think at the start of the gen MS were a lot more desperate for content. Now they're not so much, so they're forcing devs to play by their ridiculous, OTT rules...

ShinMaster5066d ago

If they're already in talks, that almost means it's happening.
Microsoft's got the money and SquareEnix will take.

The only thing in the way is MS's dumb closed ended XBL policies.

zag5066d ago

It won't happen look at APB it was slated for everything then they dropped the PS3 now have dropped the PC and now it been in dev for the last year or 2 and still has no release date.

I reckon it's canned they just don't want to say it.

blitz06235066d ago

don't really care if it's on 360. MMOs are usually better on PC so if I can run it then I'm getting the PC version

JAMurida5066d ago

I personally want to see FFXIV on 360 as well, since it' an MMO and the more people who can play it the better. Though, I don't want to see FFXIII Versus go on 360, but that's another topic...

No Way5066d ago (Edited 5066d ago )

Uh, I think APB was at E3.. I'm pretty sure.
And, I'm pretty sure it's only on PC, no x360.

Though, I think they jus put off the x360 version.
I believe they are working on it after the PC release.

PiTCHBLaCK5065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

You my friend are very wrong, I'm beta testing APB on the PC right now, so you are wrong.

Just the download of the client takes a very long time, so I stopped the download, I'll wait until I have more time to do it.

Eamon5065d ago

Ahh who cares about this MMO. I was never going to play it anyway.

More interested in FFvs13

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Philaroni5066d ago

It is more that you can't disk swap in an MMO. PC it works because you have to install all the data on your HDD. I think it is more of a hardware limitation that Square and MS are trying to overcome.

maxcer5066d ago

lol, you should research shit before you plan to discuss it. FFXI required you to install the game to the 360HDD to play it. it said this clearly on the game packaging; "Hdd Required to play". the only reason the disc was needed for play was to stream the sound track.

Philaroni5066d ago (Edited 5066d ago )

@maxcer

I played FF11 on the PS2 so I did not know that was the case, no need to be so aggressive about it. Even still I'd expect FF14 to be much larger in size so my point could still be valid. The game could very easy be over 20Gs in size which is the size the avg. Xbox owner still has.

+ Bubbles for correcting me.

zag5066d ago

Normal size for MMO's for me is between 8 and 12gig even after the newest updates.

How ever if the dev isn't too crash hot you'll get something like Age of Conan and it'll be around 50gigs before the 1st expansion is even out.

MadMan005066d ago

Most people have 20GB? I'm the only person that I know that has 20 GB Hard Drive, lol. I don't download anything to my Hard Drive I'm gonna upgrade when ever I need to, I still have 11GBs. Though if this comes to 360 I'm gonna upgrade for sure.

maxcer5065d ago

@1.3.2

same deal i think, the requirements might be over 20BG and the only people who will be able to play are the 60GB+ users with a broadband connection.

personally i would get FFXIV on PC anyway for mod support and performance. the only reason i got ffxi for 360 was to play when i was out of town. but i have a capable laptop now so i don't take the 360 on the road anymore.

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AP5066d ago

By the way, a fun point - FF14 actually started production as "Project Rapture" - and that was PC/360 only. PS3 version came later, and 360 version was dropped.

Rainstorm815066d ago

Dont expect this title until Fall 2011- early 2012 at the earliest...if this hold true

Kamikaze1355066d ago

It it comes out on the 360, it won't comes out till 2011 for the 360 only. It's only coming to PC and PS3 in Fall 2010. It was already announced at E3 and SE were trying to bring it to the 360 since it was officially announced.

Kamikaze1355066d ago

A while back after Final Fantasy XIV was announced, there were rumors that it was going to the 360 as well. However, SE mentioned that something about their game goes against Microsoft's policies and they had to try to work a way around it in order to release it on the 360. I believe they were trying to work with Microsoft to find a work around.

They said exactly what it was, but I can't remember what it was.

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EvilBlackCat5066d ago (Edited 5066d ago )

that an mmo in xbox live can easily get people hooked to them thanks to Party Chat feature(WHY? because EVERY GAMER ON LIVE have a mic) and then those xboxlive mmo gamers will start ignoring those other games on xbox 360 and its going to affect the devs really hard and also the other thing is that an xbox live year+1FREEmonth subscription cost $35-$50 NOT REALLY THE BIG PROBLEM HERE.

There is people playing THE OLD FF11 on xbox live HELLO!!!

R6ex5066d ago

SE didn't even release an FFXIII version for Asian Xbox gamers.

I'm not buying another SE game! Liar!

Digitaldude5066d ago

Lol then why do they announce "It will be PS3 exclusive!"
Everything SE says is rubbish, I'm more interested in Versus anyway.

punkpop1015065d ago

Eversince all the other Final Fantasy games jumped to other platforms you ps3 fanboys jumped in the conclusion that god hitted you in the face and you now just want Versus more.Hahahaha ps3 are trols , orcs and who knows what.

Consoldtobots5065d ago

you summed it up Digitaldude, SE has pretty much destroyed their business reputation with these moves. NO agreement with them is binding, NO contract is binding (they can be sued for this) and ultimately only care about getting their software on as many platforms as possible regardless of the sacrifices made for that to happen. They are destroying their own work out of greed. F EM.

8thnightvolley5065d ago

this seems to be the case from most mmo devs its actually MS that stops some titles and services from coming to xboxlive.. i.e

bbc iplayer, ffxiv

way too strict xboxlive policies.

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omimasum5066d ago

apart from ff13, all their titles haven't been doing well on the 360. too many stupid moves really fucked up their image this generation

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play17boy5066d ago

Yea they're talking to Microsoft because they want to make FF14 for both systems.

XxRoosterxX5066d ago

Tell me more! You must be an industry insider to have such information.

play17boy5066d ago

Lol its funny how your trying to make fun of me by being sarcastic when I was already being sarcastic............FAIL!

happyface5066d ago

lol square betrays sony again :(

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest2d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN2d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor1d 8h ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic1d 8h ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv721d 10h ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts1d 7h ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares2d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv722d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka2d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion2d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer2d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer1d 21h ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis2d ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot2d ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

Kakashi Hatake2d ago

6 and 8 were way more p popular games despite today's cult following of 9.

blackbeld1d 12h ago

I want my FF8 remake! Can't believe they cancelled it.

TiredGamer2d ago

What are they doing? Sales are falling and the costs are out of control. Big releases need to be absolute sales home runs now, and Final Fantasy sales have stagnated.

Now we know why Square didn’t fall over themselves to remake the original FF7 all these years ago. It certainly wasn’t a license to print money, at least not with what the expectations were. Each of these full on remakes drains an enormous amount of company resources for a razor thin profit margin.

TwoPicklesGood2d ago

Breaking the game up into multiple parts was a mistake IMO.

blackblades2d ago

The loses came from cancelling games nothing else.

Tapani1d 14h ago

They lost the magic in the remakes. And the story is incomplete. The original FF7 is still way better. The Remake / Rebirth are just fan service. Like an Anime/Manga with "optional" filler content. FF7 had pretty much zero filler, it was paced extremely well, and still today flows much better than the grindy story and spongey enemy battles in the remakes.

babadivad1d 11h ago

If they released it at once on all platforms, they would have made all of their money back. Could have been on to an FF8 or 9 remake. Ready to cash in again on nostalgia like Capcom. This is their fault for trying to milk the title.

Once I head they were breaking it up into parts, I lost all interest.

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neutralgamer19921d 13h ago

I hope people understand usually when a loss is declared it means a game which had been in development got cancelled. For example Sony Santa Monica before GOW-PS4 had cancelled a project which Sony had spent 7 figures on

As far as square is concerned they release a bad game once a year. Forspoken anyone?

For those making comments on remake not selling well, I hope y’all realize that Sony is the only reason this remake is happening. If Sony didn’t fund it the remake wouldn’t be happening. Just like Konami didn’t want to remake SH2 because development costs of 100 plus million

shadowT2d ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog2d ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

mandf2d ago

Corporate investors taking everything

TiredGamer2d ago

Not rocket science. Compare sales numbers, development cycles, and budgets to the previous gens. We are all collectively burning up the industry from the inside out. Expectations are ludicrously high now for every release and sales are dropping for even the most prestigious of series.

We used to be satisfied paying $50-60 for a game that took 1/100th the budget and staff to make. Now gamers feel cheated if they have to pay the same for a game that took 100x the budget. We may be reaching the end of the line for this model of gaming.

wiz71912d ago

@tiredgamer I think your point is one that ppl don’t understand and you hit it on the nose .. some gamers don’t want to take accountability but it’s some of the gamers fault the industry is where it’s at .. we as gamers set the standards for the industry not the shareholders , ppl forget that the shareholders and the industry want and need OUR Money. Both the Xbox and PlayStation are seeing a drop in hardware , the industry is very stagnant right now.

Tacoboto2d ago

Speaking to Square:

Turns out their mismanagement wasn't related to the western studios they dumped to Embracer, but their own fault.

With regards to Xbox - a good way to kill your brand is to pull support on high quality titles and only dump B and C-tier titles to it

With regards to PC - Epic Games Story exclusivity for any duration and piss-poor optimization will hurt you.

With regards to FF Pixel Remasters - y'all messed up by barely releasing them on physical, like wtf that was free money!

And lastly, you don't help a franchise by releasing a mainline title that undermines every title that came before it. FFXVI was a DMC-like with bottom-of-the-barrel side quests and I can't imagine that helping Rebirth at all considering its marketing is directly tied to how big that game is.

Tacoboto2d ago

Sony is getting their best titles and with the most polish, so what about it? Nintendo gets their top properties too, for titles that can run on Switch hardware.

It's the other fanbases that get the second- and third-class treatment from Square. If that's due to agreements with Sony, that's not a Sony issue but a Square one for accepting those terms. Sony is doing its best to look out for Sony.

wesnytsfs1d 12h ago

sales and stupid practices like exclusives.

TiredGamer2d ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS72d ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

CrimsonWing692d ago

Oh I’m with you. What’s worse is they can say, “Well we tried to make this amazing game and spend all this money on, but not enough people showed an interest. So no more of these since we can’t take a hit like that.”

The industry is going to take a dramatic shift. Mark my words on this.

rpvenom2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think there is quite a large portion of individuals like myself who held out on buying it on PS5 because I can get it on PC eventually. To be able to mod the game and also have custom graphical settings to my liking

gold_drake1d 22h ago

same

but im not sure if it matters at all. im sure they made sony pay a hefty sum for the 3parter to come on ps5 exclusively. so watever they made in sales, might have come bk in profits for square, but i dont know
and we dont know what "underperformed" even means for square.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar2d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast2d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning772d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole1d 12h ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning771d 21h ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast1d 13h ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv722d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes2d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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