Final Fantasy XIII Sold It's Soul, Final Fantasy Versus XIII To Do The Same

Ironstar: "Final Fantasy Versus XIII on Xbox 360 is a possibility that hopefully won’t come true; in fact the flaws of recently released Final Fantasy XIII could be indirectly blamed on the Xbox 360. Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada’s recent announcement of Final Fantasy Versus XIII possibly making an appearance on Xbox 360 has angered a ton of fans."

[B-Real206]

nice title lol

[ShinMaster]

But also after reading the article, he seems to make some pretty good points.

[mikeslemonade]

It's amazing how people continue to deny the fact that Final Fantasy 13 was gimped by the 360. It's pretty much 1+1=2. How can disagree with that?

[ShinMaster]

It's all on the 3rd paragraph.

[Parapraxis]

Easily, all it takes is the click of a button apparently lol.

[darthv72]

I do have a problem with them not being fine tuned for their respected platforms however.

Come on people. This is not genesis vs super nintendo anymore. That was a generation where differences were noticable. This time not so much.

Lol @ parapraxis...that is funny and true however.

[UNCyrus]

Hey OP...

It's = it is
Its = possessive

Welcome to 3rd grade :)

[soxfan2005]

Easy. It's not a fact, it's your opinion.

EDIT - FF13 on PS3 is around 25gb, runs at 720p, with 1080p cut scenes. The 360 version is around 20gb, with lower resolution. The game was downgraded slightly to fit on 360, but that had nothing to do with the PS3 version. SE made the PS3 version, then made it fit on 360. If it was PS3 exclusive, the only difference would have been the release date.

FF13 uses more of the PS3's power than most PS3 exclusives do. SE simply didn't make as good of a game as they did with previous versions.

[mikeslemonade]

I can understand few blind people saying the 360 did not gimp FFXIII, but it's like half/half or the majority that will say it didn't.

Fact is exclusives have higher ratings than multiplatform games. Also Final Fantasy 13 scored lower than 7,8,9,10,11, and 12. Review scores also are way more generous these days because people often give out 10s to please the developer and publisher. Now ever since JRPGs JRPGs have gotten multplatform there's not a single JRPG that has gotten a 9 or above average.

[Skip_Bayless]

Final Fantasy versus 13 becomes shovelware...

[Natsu X FairyTail]

People like you talk like if FFXIII stayed a Sony Exclusive the game wouldnt had sucked. While everybody is aware that the FInal fantasy franchise isnt as good as it was before. Most of the games that came out these past years all have been averate to boring. What are the good final fantasy games on the sony console since Final fatasy 10?

X-2 wasnt really good.
XII wasnt bad but the battle system was meh.
XI is a MMO

all the other Final fantasy games are almost shovelware they keep poppin 3 Final fantasy title each six months.

[Dragun619]

@ MikesLemonade

Can't really say that FF13 was gimped by the Xbox360 but I think it if you were to take all those resources used to make a 360 port and used it for the PS3 version, the outcome may have been different but ultimately it would been the same linear game but with just some added details and few extras.

[ShinMaster]

READ the article!
Maybe you'll learn something!

[DaTruth]

Off topic: I was playing MGS2 today and the dude said that a code can't be cracked by the most powerful parallel processing super computers!

Just thought that was cool.

Sorry, I liked FF13.

[CharlesDCI]

@SoxFan

How can you say a 5gb difference is a slight downgrade? That is almost the whole size of a 360 game.

[Tomdc]

Darth is right. I don't really care to much if it goes multi-platform. I will not loose anything of significance game-play wise will I? The only real thing you could claim could be gimped is graphics but final fantasy 13 was undeniably beautiful regardless of your overall impressions of the game.

People have so much hate for square enix which I don't quite understand. Other devs that went multiplat didnt get nearly as hard a time. People still hoping for final fantasy releases similar to 8 or 9 should dream on. The franchise constantly reinvents itself. I am among those that found FF12 to be the best in the series :P

[soxfan2005]

That just proves my point even further. If anything, the 360 version is "gimped", not the PS3 version.

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

multiplatform games have to be the same for both platforms and here's where the problems start.

Ambitious games like the FF franchise are often huge like a sandbox game, linear like a FPS but very heavy on CGI, dialog and cut-scenes. It is obvious that a huge media format like the blu-ray was necessary, just like back in the day a game like FFVII wouldn't have been possible on a cartridge. If we compare FFXIII to the older entries it is a FACT that FFXIII is not even half of a game of what the older games used to be. But the question is, what happened? Lazy devs? Greed? Westernisation? Space limitation? Square never said anything outside the lines of "both versions will be equal" or "X360 development will not affect the PS3 version", you know, to avoid a riot between fans that would have probably caused lower sales. But I do believe that something happened and it was due to space limitation.

FFXIII graphics were some of the best I have seen but the extreme linearity was strange and the pace of the game was way too convinient. The FFXIII world was literally empty. You couldn't do anything outside of the story (corridor of death) until the thrid disc (see how convinient?) and even then all you can do is either do missions (all of them consist of the same) or continue with the story. But now we see Nomura promising so many things for Versus... Kinda strange. This is why I believe the game's going to stay as an exclusive but they can change things like using less CGI and fewer voice acting so they can fit chunks of the game on multiple disc while still presenting a pseudo-openworld like in the older FF games on the PSX with some backtracking and exploration elements between discs.

As you can see I don't consider the X360 a less capable console than the PS3 (graphically) but I do believe that the DVD9's a huge drawback. You can name many big games like Oblivion or Red Dead Redemtion but those game don't make use of many things that require lots of space like the CGI and voice acting. You know how dramatic and heavy on presentation FF games are...

[shadow2797]

Whether XIII on 360 gimped the title or not, it certainly delayed its release. I don't want Versus to be delayed or slowed down. We haven't even really seen anything from the game yet. If MS gets involved it could be a few more years before the game sees the light of day.

[dabri5]

Actually audio can be compressed fairly well with minimal loss. Hell RDR has tons of audio and a huge open world and is on one disk. It's the cgi that eats up all the disk space. Tons of it. If versus used all in game graphics there wouldn't be an issue. Square also seems to like using really old poor quality video compression. There was a good article explaining how square could of fixed the resolution of the cgi and still saved more disk space by going with a newer vido compression format.

[Redrum059]

Judging from the comments above, many 360 fanboys are in deep denial. Sad realy. Anyways, f*** finalfantasy series, wada has turned SE into the next EA

[nnotdead]

"In January an SE interview with Japanese magazine ( ) spilled some interesting details involving the development of FFXIII. It was stated that enough content was cut from the game to make another title."

this why people believe the game was gimped on the PS3. i myself have no idea if the content was cut because of the 360, or if it was just a design choice.

[Imperator]

I have my fingers crossed. Honestly, the moment FFvsXIII goes multiplat is the moment I take it of my list of must buys. It's SE's last hope to redeem themselves. If they make it multiplat, then all hope is truly lost.

[iagainsti120]

If you really feel that way ur not a true gamer who gives a Rats@55 if it went Muti-plat play it for the game not the politics. + do you all really think that the 360 gimped the PS3 version of FF13. The game was almost done when they started Porting it, if anything it was the 360 that had the gimped version. The PS3 version was what it always was. By the way i have a PS3 and a 360 so i dont really care what system its released for i got the best of both worlds i can play Uncharted and Halo.

ohh and as for FF being on PlayStation is tradition thats bs it was on Nintendo 1st not PS, Square soft- Square Enix have never been platform loyal

[Army_of_Darkness]

Lets just expect the worst, or should I say the obvious?!
That way, we won't be dissapointed and we won't have no one to blame but SE themselves if the game turns out dissapointing like FF13( even though the visuals were nice & all)...

[execution17]

for RDR, probably the only good thing that came out of FF13 was being used to get me RDR

[JohnnyAkiba]

lucky...

[EvilBlackCat]

LOYALISTS ARE RISING AND GAMERS ARE GOING THE WAY OF THE DINOSAURS

[iagainsti120]

their are so many Loyalist out there for the 360 and PS3 and all it does is prevent them from playing all the good games that are on other systems. I like to play games so i got an xbox 360 and a PS3 i use both systems as much as the other both have pros and cons but at the end of the day i just want to play games after work and having both sysems lets me play everything thats not a Wii or PC exclusive

[Silver360]

Squarenix just made a RPG that was a rail shooter. It sucked and was not fun. It was prettier on the ps3 and that is all the difference between the two versions. MY lord this games only saving grace was the battle system. This was a bad design decision not something being gimped.

I played this crap for over 100 hours looking for the fun never found it yeah hate the game now.

[Game13a13y]

R.I.P. Square
PS: we will not miss you.

[Redrum059]

Rest in peace Square
The Hell with Enix
The Hell with Wada
It's now up to Nomura

[FanOfGaming]

Thanks for the positive feedback guys. 1.1.5 get off your high horse, mistakes happen.

[TROLL EATER]

Squaresoft used to produce TRIPLE AAA standard games now square enix they just care bout money.

[JohnnyAkiba]

They only care about TRIPLE $$$

[NastyLeftHook]

if they do, it will defidently be a bad choice for square enix imo to go multi. ex: utilizing the cell for ps3, when you think about it we havent seen a true next gen ff game until we've seen what sony did with ff on ps3, just like they did with ps2. i know that final fantasy xiv will be exclusive most likely because its made my sony.

[sikbeta]

As I said in other article, FFvs13 Multiplat... not going to happen, Nomura will leave the minute Wada announce that, sales will favor PS3 Again but it'll sell less than FF13 cos FF Players will be all mad about the crap SE is doing with their Beloved Franchise, so FF Supporters will Abandon the hopes of a True JRPG like the old and nice days of Squaresoft, after some time, SE Shareholders including Sony, will want to cut Wada's head...

[FordGTGuy]

If you reason for not buying a game is that they are releasing it on another platform also than your not a true gamer. In reality no one could give half a crap about whether or not it was released on another platform and in the end it only creates a larger fan base and more sales to fuel future game development.

There are three major reasons FF13 was favored for the PS3.
1. Looked better on PS3
2. FF is a known PlayStation franchise to the point where most people that owned a PS3 and Xbox 360 would naturally favor the PS3.
3. Xbox 360 gamers are not as big of JRPG fans as PlayStation gamers.

Square Enix made the right move just like Bungie is making the right move going multi-platform.

[Def Warrant]

If releasing FFvs13 on multiple platforms means gimping it, then i don't want to have any part of it. FF13 was mediocre already. We don't need another following it's shoes. Sometimes you have to learn to balance quality and selling yourself out. They have made 5 mil with FF13 right? why not take a chance and make a real FF game by leaving it on one platform? Greed will eventually kill this industry trust me.

[FordGTGuy]

To have a larger amount of people to sell your game to. Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 now have large amounts of customers and unless your a 1st party developer it would be almost insane not to go multi-platform.

How would it not utilize the power of the cell?

I don't see why people think that either system still has a clear advantage over the other on hardware. In reality both systems are scraping the bottom of the bowl to squeeze out performance to keep up with PC gaming.

Can't wait to see what the new PlayStation and Xbox will do! (It better involve at least 2 GB of ram)

[Def Warrant]

Sometimes it's not all about money. They've already sold 5 mil with ff13. why not take the chance and make a quality ff game on one platform. They can afford it.

[wil4hire]

I'm sorry, but if you can't tell the difference between the Unreal Engine & PS3 exclusives, you're hopeless and right.. YOU cant tell.

However, playing both consoles, there is a clear difference in game quality. Microsoft doesn't cater to their own studios, just throwing out games & buying temporary exclusives to beat sony. Which is why there is none of the quality titles on the 360 that compare to say.. God of War, or.. well name anything.

You don't want to believe, thats fine. But others can tell the difference in content between MLB0+ and 2k's games, GT5 compared to Forza3/Other series on sheer scale & scope. GOW3 vs Bayonetta. Infamous vs Prototype.

Its like you want to sit here and lie to all of us and say you don't see a difference between running Gt5 In its higher native resoltuion/car count/polygonal detail, and Forza3's 8 cars with blacked out cockpits to save the framerate.

I'm glad you can do that, but im also glad I don't have to pretend I don't notice a difference.

Were you the guy that people had to convince to get rid of tapes for CD? Can't tell HD from SD? I mean come on.

Theres no reason to NOT think that the PS3 isn't pushing out more advanced engines, especially with the focus on their studios & actually wanting to push the bar forward with their technology. They are a hardware company. Proof is in the titles, not a make believe world.

You can say theres nothing on the PS3 that the 360 can't do. But you're literally just saying that seeing as how the latest entry into the Trump PS3 World -- Alan Wake, is SubHd and runs different models in cut scenes than in game... Same with the last one, Splinter Cell.

The priorities of the companies are different, and it shows.

SE can do what they want, to turn a cheap buck. But thats why PS3 owners are sad to see it happen, because it means we miss out on what could be a great product. Not one rushed out and limited to the arcade 360 sku. Theres no rush to just play a game because its out you know? Its nice to play a good overall title.

PC gaming is PC gaming. Consoles are never compared to them, since they don't have the specifications.

[FordGTGuy]

I own both a Xbox 360 and PS3 and having played the best both can offer I can saying without a doubt both are on the same level. The difference is only in the games themselves, and neither look impressive compared to modern PC games.

My computer out performs both the Xbox 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics but that is only natural as the hardware in my computer is more advanced and has less bottle necks(512 mb of ram bottle neck on both consoles.)

Forza Motorsport 3 has most of its processing power taken up by its physics engine and running at a solid 60 fps. On the other hand GT5 uses most of the PS3's power towards graphics which can be seen by the highly detailed cars shown so far.

Can't see SD to HD? Actually I own over 100 blu-rays so your argument is void. More advanced engines can only go so far and the PS3 and Xbox 360 are doing great considering how old the hardware is. But the Hardware is slowing the consoles down and that is why the next console are not to far off.

Alan Wake might be Sub-HD but might I remind you the RDR on PS3 is Sub-HD compared to HD on the Xbox 360.

Please take off your fanboy glasses, open your eyes and think clearly for once. I'm sorry I offended your perfect PS3 and its unbeatable performance, I swear to god we should just give you fanboys guns and let you kill yourselves over the Xbox 360 and PS3.

"SE can do what they want, to turn a cheap buck. But thats why PS3 owners are sad to see it happen, because it means we miss out on what could be a great product. Not one rushed out and limited to the arcade 360 sku. Theres no rush to just play a game because its out you know? Its nice to play a good overall title. "

There is no reason that the PS3 version would suffer because of the Xbox 360 version as they were developed separately so please stop with the dumb remarks.

[Daver]

''Alan Wake might be Sub-HD but might I remind you the RDR on PS3 is Sub-HD compared to HD on the Xbox 360.''

Hmmm That's the point dude... Alan Wake is an exclusive on Xbox that is sub-HD and RDR is a multiplatform game that is sub-HD on ps3.

[wil4hire]

And it runs at a higher resolution than Alan Wake does. Just like MGS4 & Ratchet. Again, this is why you're blind because you saw somewhere that, RDR is a Graphical Showcase to highlight the PS3. Since when did that happen? You want to pretend to be a gamer, yet want to ignore the fact that Multiplatform games aren't there to showcase hardware, exclusives are. Which is why you wont even try to refute a single thing I said about any of them.

Again, Live in your matrix where Multiplatform games highlight hardware ability. I'll live in mine knowing that God Of War 3 trumped Uncharted 2 in sheer terms of scale/textures/lighting/proces sing. I don't have to pretend RDR is supposed to be the next Crysis, because no one in the world said it was. You might as well hide behind GTA4 too, since it was also SubHd, running the same engine.

I'm the one being a fanboy by saying that the unreal engine doesn't perform as well as an engine designed specifically for the PS3. Right.

I'm a fanboy because Forza3 has 1 model for the menu, 1 for the start of a race, 1 after you start the race ( cockpit gets dimmed down ), and only has 8 vehicles on the track with physics that result in sliding on rails or rolling on a floor like a puppy. GT5 has the same glitches, and runs in 1280x1080p or what not, with 16 vehicles and doesn't have to hide the interiors of the vehicle. Physics engine that just does model swap for damage.

I'm a fanboy for pointing out factual differences in PS3 games, and multiplatform games.

Cry all you want. You haven't offended me, I own every console that ever existed. Sure some are busted in the closet, but so what? I'm not blind. I love PC games, and they are great. But its a pathetic excuse to try to ignore the fact that we are talking about consoles.

Heres a logic circle.

1. Multiplatform games are designed to be 100% Identical.

2. No Multiplatform game has more advanced technology & Performance than PS3 engines.

1 & 2 are true. Which is why a multiplatform game means that it will not utilize the PS3's (God of War, Uncharted2, MGS4, MLB, GT5) ability.

Again, blind. Stick to the PC section, but dont bumble in here to point out how great the PC is.

[radphil]

@FordGTGuy

You must have never been on the field.

Time = Resources
When you have to develop for MORE THAN 1 platform, that takes time from development to make it so that you have to focus on 2 things, more time away from Q&A because now you have to make sure you focus test on 2 forms, more time away from programming, because now you have to make it work for 2 platforms, etc.

This is common knowledge. If you have to split up your focus, that's more resources and less time you have to do things.

[DaTruth]

You just made his point! Multiplatform = subHD. If that game was PS3 exclusive it would look better and not be subHD.

[radphil]

@DaTruth

You would think that it would be easy to explain that you can actually have the potential to get great stuff out of 1 thing if you focus time and effort to it based on the amount of resources you have.
The funny thing is that everyone else is getting just 1 disagree. I wonder who that could be from...

[RememberThe357]

I don't see it happening. It's definably possible but Nomura is going to get his way. He wants to develop for one platform and he chose the PS3.

[ManGastaS]

he will be fired!

[RememberThe357]

And let Kingdom Hearts nose dive into crapsville. These games aren't FPS they need they're creative minds or they get lost.

[Noctis Aftermath]

Square enix without nomura? i can only hope, with the way square are going if he quits and makes his own studio then i can completely ignore all future SE releases.

RIP - Squaresoft

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Nomura is a fanboy from PlayStation.

And how a FF will touch the full performance for the PS3, if this come for Xbox 360? Will downgrade the performance.

[thehitman]

On 360 wont happen at least up to a year after Versus releases if they decide to port it. They dont have any code/engine ready for Versus on the 360 yet.

[Jikla]

Or we ps3 owners get kicked in the balls and the game gets delayed for a year because they want to release it on the xbox 360 at the same time as ps3.

[-Alpha]

Question:

Why is it considered "bad" that SE went Multiplat?

Is it because the assumption is that they had to downgrade the game?

I'm just wondering how people know that. What if FF13 was going to be the quality it is now even if it was exclusive? Wasn't FF13 already under production well before it was announced/went multiplat?

Anyways, just curious, I'm unaware of the controversy around this game.

As for Versus, it could very well go multiplat but I'd like to see if SE make a better game if they stay exclusive, and I'd love to see more third party devs utilizing the PS3.

[NastyLeftHook]

i think its great A final fantasy is on 360. so many people can play it, what i want though is for suare enix (probably wont) to utilize the cell architecture for the ps3 and bluray disk. i think its a great opportunity to maximize the ff series to utilize the bluray disk. granted i know they didnt for the previous ff on 360 and ps3, but square really has a great machine to utilize the series on it.

[Noctis Aftermath]

I have a question,

Why is it good for them to go multiplat with versus? the only answer i can think of is for more potential sales.

When it comes to game quality, sales have no part in it.

What potential benefits(besides what i mentioned) does going multiplat give? i can only think of potential negatives like: fitting the game onto multiple DVDs which still end up with less overall space, also the disc swapping that comes with it, it's a valid argument(though unproven) that square didn't include backtracking in FF13 because of the possible problems that disc swapping can cause.

It's only logical that people are going to be pissed about versus going multi, and unless someone can convince me otherwise there is NOTHING good that will come from versus going multiplat, as a gamer i will not see an increase in quality because of it, it has a much higher chance to have a DECREASE in quality and that is something that people who were looking forward to this game DO NOT WANT.

Edit: I'm only refering to versus, i don't really care about other SE games to be honest.

[Dacapn]

All I have to say is if it was the 360 that made the game so terrible, than I want versus to stay exclusive. If versus plays in anyway similar to XIII, whether it's exclusive or not, I won't be buying the game.

[sajj316]

I don't consider going multiplatform a bad decision. It needs to be strategic. SE has always pushed the RPG boundry with FF titles. This is what fans expect. I've expected this since the first FF game.

[RememberThe357]

They put resources into porting the game over to the 360 rather then using those resources to add towns into the game or finish it faster. Ask any developer, it's always preferable to work on one platform in terms of delivering a quality product.

That said I still love FF13, but I would rather them focus on one platform to make the game the best they can make it.

[Cold 2000]

FF13 exclusive to the PS3 would have been like other exclusive PS3 jrpg's. It would have taken full advantage of the PS3 hardware and wouldnt have been gimped by the 360.

A bit like this http://www.metacritic.com/g...

@below: Demons Souls is a JRPG ? LMAO, its an action RPG. Its not because its produced by a japanese studio that it makes it a jrpgs like FF or Lost Odyssey for instance.

And Valkyria Chronicles is actually a 360 exclusive that got switched to PS3 for business reasons. Could have been easily done a 360. http://www.gamer.tm/news.ph...

[Parapraxis]

And these!
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

You shoulda saw that one coming, then again your trollfu always fails to impress.
*is still un-impressed*

[DaTruth]

If Demon's Souls is not a JRPG and it being Japanese has nothing to do with it, please explain to me the characteristics of a WRPG.

WRPG characteristics, I'm waiting!

[Meryl]

lol the games you just mentioned was never ment to be omfg teh gfx, and WKC gfx was downgraded for larger worlds and online play, anyway in RPG's gfx!= good rpg, ff xiii sucked

[BRG9000]

Yeah Alpha, that's exactly why. The game wasn't the best RPG of all time and going multiplatform was an easy move to blame for it, even though there's really no basis for the claims.

Plus it was deprived of the magic power that makes PS3 exclusives better than all other games regardless of actual quality or content. :p

[patterson]

The biggest reason for me on why I didn't like the porting of FFXIII to 360 is because instead of releasing the PS3 version as soon as it was completed, they waited to finish the 360 version, which we all know had to be ported afterwards. So it caused a a long delay. Had it been a timed exclusive, I really wouldn't have cared.

[Godmars290]

How have you been online, been on N4Gs, and not know the answer to that question?

In regards to FFXIII its that the quality of the game became suspect. Especially since its time announced as a multiplatform title does not equal when the decision was made to make it multi. The devs had a plan and schedule, and even if the PS3 version was 80% complete, when the decision came to make the 360 version, the PS3 one was reevaluated. Changes were made to "balance" both for retail.

Weather or not such is true, if its ever revealed by anyone from Square it'll be years after the fact.

As for Versus, its even more under a cloud than XIII was, so anything can happen.

[-Alpha]

"How have you been online, been on N4Gs, and not know the answer to that question"

Honestly godmars, I don't know lol.

I was just wondering, which is why I asked. I have an idea, but don't know any solid information. I wasn't all that into FF13 anyway so I kinda spaced out.

Who says they "balanced" it out?

I mean, if the PS3 version was already made couldn't they just make the 360 version, and then remove the PS3 parts if it couldn't fit onto the 360 version? Instead there is this general attitude that they downgraded the PS3 version-- I am just asking if this is actual fact or just a theory/assumption, I've never paid attention to the whole issue. When FF13 went multiplat I was hanging out in Gamespot too.

[Godmars290]

The thing is for one, at least a year and a half of FFXIII's dev time was "wasted" on a PS2 verion. For another, a supposedly PS3-only dev engine was rumored to have gone multiplatform long, long before "The Betrayal" had been made official. All that adds up to too big of a window for the three disc DVD9 version not to have had an effect on the BR one at any state of its development. Especially when Square was openly supporting M and the 360 while fearful of Sony "dominating" the market.

Now tell me that last bit makes any sense coming coming out of the mouth of CEO if "money hats" weren't involved.

[cemelc]

I think most ppl including myself wouldnt have this much problem accepting it, if they didnt tell that versus is/was an exclusive for the PS3.

BTW dont take me this the wrong way, but theres a rumor that the game (FF13) has 14gb of cut content thats a hit in quality right there (if the rumor is true of course). Perhaps is not the core mechanics of the gameplay, but its a hit just the same

[Parapraxis]

not a rumour in the least.
http://www.joystiq.com/2010...

[likedamaster]

FFXIII development on 360 was not even started until the PS3 version was finished. As far as Versus, it's a cry by the fanboys because it might not be exclusive anymore. A beloved franchise that didn't even start on the PlayStation. No one's crying foul but the diehard Sony fans.

There's your answer in a nutshell.

[sajj316]

As sad as it sounds, there is always the possibility. Why would Wada tweet it? Why cause this much confusion? Either he's that stupid or trying to get fan feedback before making a decision. If SE wants to put JRPGs back on the map, only one direction. The SE project to make the 360 a JRPG platform has failed. Time to change strategies or reuse something that has worked well in the past.

[NYC_Gamer]

well if the game hits both consoles no1 should be too shocked because well SE is 3rd party

[Colonel-Killzone]

Listen I will say this once and I will say it again I believe this game will be good If Nomura is directing this game. He will make sure that this game is good as he promises. Only problem pretty sure Nomura wanted this exclusive. I truly believe that he wanted it exclusive for a reason. It can go to the 360 I just hope they just make this the best possible ff game it can be.

[spiky1228]

There is nothing wrong when a game goes multiplatform, becasue SE gotta make the money. So its totally fine if they make games multiplatform but announce as multiplatform straight up. This is like people filing lawsuit against Sony for going to removing Linux OS later on.

My only biggest problem is they shouldn't claim it's an exclusive when it is not. Don't lie to their fans when there are gamers that actually brought a 360 because of Star Oceans and later finding out it is going to be on the PS3. So I just wasted $300 for a console for a game that will be on the platform that I already owned.

If this comes true, then there might be ground for a lawsuit on false adveritsing. If only this is true. LOL

[polow got sol]

"in fact the flaws of recently released final fantasy 13 could be indirectly blamed on the xbox 360"....sigh

[ClownBelt]

The greatness of the game cannot be contained in 3 discs.

[littletad]

Final Fantasy 7-9 were what?

[strotee]

Released when DVD's weren't available.

[Sigh]

-- were ps1 games. This is the PS3, Xbox 360, Wii generation, xbox 360 shouldn't replicate technology that was seen 2 gaming generations ago.

[littletad]

The 360, hell even Wii, can produce "greatness" games with the so-called "dated" tech. If you can make a sandwich while installing game data, surely you could handle disc swapping. Your only buying into the propaganda that blu-ray technology is all that and more. Sure, it's helped Sony on their first party games, but it doesn't mean the 360 or Wii can't achieve anything too with DVD's.

[instrumentalist]

My worries lie elsewhere, platform choice is the last of them. xiii turned out as a really cheap attempt at changing the golden formula of previous FF's, and I'd hate to see SE blow their chance of redeeming with Versus.

No one's asking for ff6 or 7, but dammit I don't wanna ride Odin The Pony with petals flying around me, I wanna summon a gargantuous beast from the 9th dimension ready to strike down my enemies and magically disappear.

Seeing how FF -did not- start as a PS title, it's not a strict PS franchize. The case was actually a symbiosis of FF and PSX, Sony and Square helped each other there, so Square sticked to it.
I'd be the first of the executives to raise my hand for multi-platform after seeing the abomination that is PS3. Yeah it only does everything..else but good graphics and bc. Kinda a system killer now innit.

Disagree spree on one, two, three!

[sajj316]

I think you need to have your eyes checked. Generalizing multiplatform releases as the benchmark of PS3 graphics is not the way to play it instramental man.

Exclusives push the industry. Always have and always will.

[instrumentalist]

They do, and they're exactly what made me love Playstation all these years. But Sony went too far this time, and most of it's exclusives didn't do what the target render trailers showed us (with the exception of Kz2). FFXIII looked all high and mighty with its cgi trailers but the truth was a horrible, low-res game that looks worse than its last-gen predecessors. Exclusives are dead, do a reality check on yourself :) They died with cross-game chat, cross-platform gaming, dlc's and all the other mumbo jumbo that killed the "game" in game industry.

[PirateThom]

Is Final Fantasy XIII being "low res" anything to do with Sony?

[ManGastaS]

Dont fight, just let it go, it will be better for you that way fanboy!

PS3 fans are feeling the heat, they are starting to lose E3 hopes! I love the way M$ put pressure on PS3 fans!

walking into the stage and showing "versus XIII tattoo" BOOMM!!! internet explods!

[Dylantalon1]

theyre probably working on a ffvs 13 for xbox 360 as we speak. ff 13 was butchered ridiculously in terms of content and if ff vs 13 goes multiplatform then we can expect another mediocre game that had the potential of being a better game.

[wissam]

Do you play games or meta critics. remember mw2 scored 96. lol.

[ironfist92]

At least make v13 PS3 exclusive first, then sell it. if it tanks, then you can release a port for 360, coz by then no one will care anymore.

[Knightofelemia]

If there is a 360 version of FFVS13 I don't want my PS3 to suffer the waiting time. FF13 did that and I almost lost interest in the game.

[littletad]

I thought this site was more neutral than the rest, how quickly that unfolded though. I don't really see what the deal is. More people allowed to play the game is a bad thing? I also believe the whole "FF13 was shortened by 360" to be a major fanboy cry. The game was long well in development for Sony. They had plenty of time to finish the game. Then make a port, probably a crappy one, for the 360. And in most cases, it seems that's how it went. Anything else is pure conjecture and mindless ranting.

[gamer7804]

Seriously, this drivel gets passed off as gaming news??? I've never seen so much conjecture and ill-founded opinions pawned off as fact. I would write more but this kind of article doesn't even warrant responses.

[air1]

im with you

*sigh*

[JAMurida]

The way I see is: Stay exclusive means more quality but possibly less sells. Mulitplat means less quality but possibly more sells.

This was before and after FFXIII going multiplat.
(Top: PS3 exlcusive build, Bottom: Multiplat (PS3,360) build)
http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2...

Not to mention, Nomura said himself, "There are huge advantages to focusing on only one console". And we have seen this in exclusive titles on all platforms, IMO, mainly in PS3 exclusive games.

http://playstation.joystiq....

But it seems SE might go with the money this time again. Which yes, might please everyone but people like me will always be thinking, "What if they took advantage of what the PS3 had to offer?"

[dalehitchy]

and dnt give me that xbot crap i used to have a xbox but switched to the ps3 cus of the RROD... but FFXIII was not a crap game cus of the xbox... its cus of square enix... they havnt made a decent game in yonks... i can name plenty of games that have open worlds and just as good graphics...

i hope FFXIII versus is released just on ps3....then you sony can see how crap the game is and not blame it on the xbox

[Gothdom]

Well, in my opinion, it's because of all those reasons. SE has been crap since the merger and people had high hopes for the game AND the limits of the 360's choice of medium.

I know I'm not buying another SE game ever until they rime with quality as they used to. I don't care if it's multiplat or not, I just want a fun game. FFXIII was NOT fun. I sold it as soon as I finished it and I still feel it was the worst buy in all my gaming years since 1988. The game has great visuals, but that's it. No challenge, no fun, no options... all these makes for a dull experience.

[AriesFury]

SE has put themselves in a hole that will be hard for them to get of.

[instrumentalist]

a-man.

[ATLGAMER]

Are always better....point blank perion

[Dance]

why does N4G approve of these fanboy rant articles

[lpfisher]

Tetsuya Nomura has said several times that vs.XIII is going to be his masterpiece. He wants the full power of the PS3 and all of the talent of the Kingdom Hearts team to be the best it can possibly be. That being said, I think he'll fight to keep it exclusive to avoid watering down his creative license.

[C L O U D]

I believe Tetsuya Nomura will keep this game on the Playstation or at least try.
Kingdom Hearts is a multiplatform franchise however there isn't really a game that was relased on both major consoles however Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories was with the handheld Gameboy advance and later releasing it on to the Playstation 2. Technically the same game, they both had such a difference I woudn't really consider it a "multiplatform" title.

Well I hope Tetsuya Nomura keeps it on the Playstation. It's not that I don't want it on the 360 it is because I would like to see how well a True Successor (Potentially) Final Fantasy will perform for this gen.

[KidMakeshift]

Uh, it did that a long time ago when it went from Nintendo to Sony

Final Fantasy really sold it's soul when money became the primary reason to make Final Fantasy games. There use to be a real artistic touch to there games, but after FF13 I don't know what to think. FF6 & 12 were the real milestones of the franchise in my opinion.

I mean, look at all the second rate Final Fantasy crap they have been putting out on the Wii and DS for the last couple of years

[mookins]

I don't want this game turned to crap either.

[R_aVe_N]

I don't think the Final Fantasy XIII going multiplatform ruined the game really. All that did was make PS3 fans wait longer to get it. SE just made a REALLY bad game and that is not unusual for them this gen now is it? On the other hand all of Nomura's games have been really good. I have played all but one of the Final Fantasy games to the end and that was FFXIII. It was pure trash!

[Pootangpie]

never in the history of gaming has this ever been the guess with multiplatform development it would be retarded to think it does now SE like all other corporate companys care about money good thing you PS3 fanboys don't work Square enix you probably don't know 2 shits about business

[Skyreno]

Nomura is my favorite developer >> love games he makes , i love to see versus13 in gameplay..>> i just hope to God it doesnt go multiplat so it can not runiied it masterpiece

[MajestieBeast]

It is gimped why else would they remove 25% of the game that was running on the ps3? I find it funny how suddenly multiplatform is good but when you say mass effect and gears should go to ps3 its suddenly not good, isnt it nice to be hypocrits 360 fanboys.

[Homicide]

I don't see what's wrong with Versus XIII going multiplatform.

As for the FFXIII linearity issue, the linearity was decided a long time ago, way before the 360 version was announced. Hell, the FFX team developed FFXIII and FFX was also linear.

[JohnnyAkiba]

FFX you can go anywhere with a airship, its not that linear.
There is towns villages temples, shops etc.

FFXIII doesn't have NOTHING.

[United4Life]

But they still aren"t doing it Because of the 360 . IT Frustrates me to think that SE can make a Wonderful game on the PS3 , but still spew out crap like FF13.I mean comeon , this is the company that made FF7 FFS

[Omega Archetype]

Who cares, I'll be buying the PS3 version regardless.

[foxxy]

This is nothing against the 360 but can you f off plz stop leaping to grab Sony balls. I want versus to have the feeling of god of war 3 you know that the developer worked every nook cranny sweat blood that's the feeling I got from god of war 3 killing a god on top a moving titan climbing a mountain yeah just f off developers have said time and time again we cut this we cut that you don't have that excuse with ps3 cause you can fit as much as you want no limit.

[Argento-Nox]

I'm not sure if Versus is going multi-platform, but I think FFXIV will go multi-platform like FFXI.

[prettyboy1]

all youll sayin sales could hurt it must have forgot whos doin this game.normura the creator of my favorite rpg franchise which is kingdom hearts.so i figure the game is goin sell in japan thats a given and in america thier r millions of people who f##kin loved kingdom hearts.so how is that goin hurt sails for this game.if done rite im lookin at maybe 5 mill tops.

[MadMan00]

Actually a lot of people gave up hope on Kingdom Hearts. It's not gonna hurt sales IT'S GONNA INCREASE THEM!

[vsr]

Xbox owners are willing to pay $60 for a DVD...They have no problem with DVD...Infact many 360 owners told N4G that they are happy with their DVD & gameplay > graphics... But PS3 owners are willing to pay $60 for a bluray. They cares both (quality game = graphics + gameplay). It's very unfair to PS3 owners because they are getting same content as per the DVD version.

No Fanboyism. Companies shoud serve their customers as per their payment(optical media).Sorry for the bad engish. This is my opinion about multiplat games

[MadMan00]

No, that's a fan boy post, you're being an idiot.

[MadMan00]

If you think it was 360s fault that FF sucked, then you're an idiot.

Look at the game if anything they COULD have added a town but who would that even change ANYTHING? Nothing it's doesn't change the fact that it's Linear, doesn't matter what they added it still would have been it's common sense and seems no one has it.

I have it on PS3 and I still claim it was kinda bad it just wasn't very interesting.

There is No "Full Power of the PS3"...Less Discs? LOL, yeah that doesn't change the STORY OR game play only how long a game can be.

[XabiTheHumble]

It was linear for 2/3s of the game because of storage issues so get this here is a great concept if the devs had more space to work with we would see towns throughout the whole game!! (which would not make it so linear). 2. "There is No "Full Power of the PS3" and you would know this because....

[Meryl]

ever since the creator of FF left and the merger happened and wada took over SE has produced nothing but average games, they always lie to the original fan base and love to take dumps on them, so no i will not be surprised when xfans celebrate over ff versus, i am no longer interested in anything that comes from them after KH:BBS now, they have obviously become just like EA was greedy and $$ obsessed

[Jihaad_cpt]

It's an opinion piece, "a certain nation" and their opinion qualifies as news here

[meganick]

First off, Square Enix sucks. They have for a while now, let's face it. Second, if it really bothers you that FF 13 Versus (which will most likely suck) might end up going to the 360 then you're a f***ing idiot.

[Senden]

HAHAHAHAAHA "sold it's soul" please... anyone actually goes this far just because a game loses it's exclusiveness really should take a step back from gaming and prioritize what's really important in their lives.

[baodeus]

Ok so can anyone explain this to me, cause I still haven't got any answer to these question every time I posted in an article blaming x360 for gimping FF series.

1. According to the article, FF13 was original work on for the PS2, and the PS2 used DVD. How is that suddenly gimp FF13 when it jump to the x360 which also used DVD?

2. Why the linearity and lack of towns suddenly blame on x360 when clearly game like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, ME2, Magna Carta 2, Fable 2 on the x360 aren't linear, have open world exploration, towns and with much better graphics then any RPGs exclusive to PS3 (white knight chronical, Valkyrie Chronical, Demon Soul, 3D dot heroes). I didn't even mention about PS1 graphics rpgs on the PS3 like last rebellion, cross edge, Trinity, etc....

3. If it is gimp, why the PS3 version still have 1080p CG movies, uncompress sounds, 720p graphics?

4. Can you guys show me an RPG exclusive to the PS3 that looks better than ME2, Magna Carta 2, Fable 2, Blue Dragon, KoF?

5. Why the bench mark of graphic game Crysis with crazy physics, open environment can fit on the limited medium DVD?

I'm still waiting for response from u guys and yet, no one can give me any legit answer to these questions. At least give supports to your claim instead of just stating as "FACT" and move on with it like it is the truth and people should accept it without questioning. How can anyone take u guys seriously?

@milklemonade,

In response to your post, here are a few things u should consider

1. What other system that have the most RPGs last gen? PS2.

2. Did the DVD format gimp those games? No. Just look at FF7, it run on 4 CDs. You don't need Blue-ray to have a good game. And for the record, most good looking ones on PS3 are TPS and FPS with linear game play and less than 10 hrs.

3. Is JRPG are still consider the mainstream RPGs on last gen console? Yes

4. Since the introduction of WRPG (Knight of Old Republic, Fable, Oblivion, Jade empire, etc....), how have the JRPG fair against those games? Not so great. Go look up on all the JRPGs score from last gen to see how many of those have higher rating than KOTOR, Fable, Oblivion, Jade empire?

5. How many traditional JRPGs exclusive on PS3 have gotten higher score, with open environment and look better than WRPG like ME2, oblivion, fallout, fable 2? None (Demon soul and Valkyrie Chronical is not traditional JRPG like FF, linear, and still they received decent rating compare to other WRPG games. Heck, Demon soul is a totally westernize game develop in Japan.

6. Do u ever think about WRPG may dominate the RPG genra this gen and not JRPG? It is also the reason why Japanese developer trying to westernize their games (FF13 or demo soul for example)?

Just think about those questions and u may find an answer to your questions. Don't let your fanboy's goggles clouded your judgement.

[maniacmayhem]

THE EXCLUUUUSIVVVVESSS!!!

Sorry about that...couldn't stop myself.

I just have to say you are spot on with all those questions and you will never get any answers from the Sony brigade. They will stick by their claims that FF was gimped due to MS. Hilarious isn't it?

[yogaflame]

to bad expect, delay of the game, graphics downgrade and level cuts, etc. Thanks MS

[yogaflame]

imagine nomura have alreayd foucs his resources and wants to maximize ps3 specs now he wilol be force to downgrade the game, Sqaure developers should resign and go to different companies

[awi5951]

FF 13 was forced out it wasnt done it was over budget and a waste of time FF 14 was announced to get those stupid bastards rear in gear to make them hurry and finish it . SE was pissed at the FF 13 team and the annoucnement of FF 14 was a big screw you to FF 13 team. FF 14 was farther in dev than 13 and could have beat it to market its not the 360 fault the game was in trouble from the get go. I love the PS3 fanboys sites ask the FF 14 developers they said the same thing lol.

And before the ps 3 fanboys start running there mouths with the disagree buttons the friction between the 13 and 14 teams have been widely reported in both japanease and us gaming media . FF 13 was holding up 14 and they really dont like each other right now. Look it up before you start running your mouths

[Denethor_II]

Final Fantasy isn't a Sony brand, it a brand because of Sony. When I bought a PS3 I expected a lot of great Japanese games, Final Fantasy being the pinnacle. If versus appears on the Xbox, then it will have to appeal to your general MW2 humping Xbox user. Surely this is not a good thing for the series. Eventually it will probably end up being made in America and then localized for Japan. And then it will be a dual wielding first person shooter or something.

[NeoBiggs]

If versus appears on the Xbox, then it will have to appeal to your general MW2 humping Xbox user.

I was drinking my coffee when i read this and damn near spit it all over the desk. Sorry just thought it was funny.

[mittwaffen]

The other kind of retarded meat.
Fanboys
Taste like it too.

muahaha.

[8thnightvolley]

all u cry babies should get a life.. seriously i sick of all the wining on this site by stupid loyals, haze was exclusive didnt stop it from sucking, so was lair and even on the xbox brand too human, out of the top of my head ,if FF 13 was exclusive the game would still be linear and have a very scripted approach towards its gameplay and a few sectors u can explore, we knw the game was way into its development b4 it was announced for the 360, and the only issue they had with it is coz the compression of the game into the disc to fit 3, if i can remember correctly it was said SE had to cut some part of the game that was big enough to make another game so if the game was played for over 100 hrs and it was not appealing or not intresting do u acutally think an extra 50 to 100 hrs of crap will make a difference NO!, if anything it would piss u off more to chuck out 100 hrs of ur life on crap... i personally dont have anything against SE coz as a studio coz they are doing what they can do... they do well but technically not just on par with their western counterpart when it comes to game development and story telling... so they did what they could do.
FF is a brilliant series but dont forget over the decade us as games have become alot more hardcore than normal, we are very harsh critics and any flaw will be easily noticed by us which in the past we wouldnt care and would clamour on the game and just have FUN wit it now its alot more serious, so SE just needs to step up their game and make a better game, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAME COMING TO 360..

appsolutely nothing...

[maniacmayhem]

There are still articles like these floating around getting approved.

FF first appeared for Nintendo, then it jumped to $ony. Did it sell it's soul then?

Again another article that claims FF was a PS3 exclusive and even if it was...WHO CARES? The game would've been the same no matter what.

But I might get a comment or two from Sony Insiders on N4G that will swear up and down that the game was gimped.

[Tzuno]

THEY MAKE GAMES FOR MONEY SO IT'S NORMAL TO DECIDE TO DEVELOP FOR OTHER PLATFORMS AS WELL BECAUSE THIS WILL INCREASE THE SALES NUMBER. BUSINESS IS MONEY AND MONEY TALKS BABY. AND DON'T BLAME XBOX 360 FOR FINAL FANTASY 13 LACK OF PURE RPG BLAME SQUARE-ENIX BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CHANGED A WINNING FORMULA IN TO A CRAP ONLY FOR THE LOVE OF NEW CRAP THAT SOMEONE BELIVED THAT IT WILL BE BEST THAN IT'S PREDECESSORS.

[Xander756]

360 version of FF13 scored just 1 point lower than the PS3 version. Obviously they was about the same. Silly fanboys...

[benandlol]

cuz i had 7 ps3 and dey al broke in a month. 2 gt YLOD, 3 gt disc eror. 2 jst wundt trn on. iv had my xbox for nerly 10 yeers now n its neva browke. n th grafics are beter on xbox

[Crystallis]

the xbox hasn't even been out 10 years, so I know your are not telling the truth..

[galmi]

I swear pple are just kids, from a corporation view, SE knows its bound to make more money if it goes multi, that's a fact, why should you give a damn if its released on 360, just get the ps3 version that you so love instead, its that simple as for the 360 version whether ots downgraded or not, as long as it looks good enuff and plays well(which is what really matters, what the point in haveing a good looking games that sucks a** aka ff13), that's all that should matter. Reality is, FF13 is the worst ff I have played to date and this has nothing to do with 360, the games is just not good enough at least based on the standard we have come to expect from the franchise, they just lost it when sakaguchi san left them.

Let's face it, even if it was never released on 360, the game would still be the crap it is, as for me, instead of making new ffs, old remakes are very much appreciated, they can start from ff6 and move up, I knw I ain't the only one who wants that, or they could remake illusion of time(sweet game :)) or chrono trigger or chrono cross, they are very welcome to do so.

I really hated ff13 cuz it sucked real bad, I got tired of playing it at some point and gave it to a friend to go play it and return it whenever he was done. SE have just lost it as far as am concerned so stop blaming the consoles for your crappy games, blame the producers, developers and publishers, freaking kids...

[LaWdY-LoU]

Another topic on FF Versus XIII coming to 360. My question to u all is WHAT ARE U GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? If u think the game sucks then if it were exclusive it would have made little difference. Thats why u ppl need to think before u speak. And how does a GAME sell it's soul?! I pity u fan boys. U ppl are not true FF fans in the least bit. I hope this game does go to 360 so u can all cry about it again. Pathetic.

[Crystallis]

If it were exclusive to ps3 it wouldnt have content cut. Your like the other fools here who just dont get it. Just think if SE use the full power of the PS3.

Oh and True FF fans want a FF game with its highest potential...thats a true FF fan and thats the main argument here.

[baodeus]

@crystallis,

Can u and the topic creator give me the answers to those question i posted since you guys aren't a fool like the others. I kept seeing these topics over and over with no legitimate conclusion. Are u guys just hurting or actually have facts to back up your claim about others people being a fool while you guys aren't?

Like i said, I can't even get any decent response from fanboy especially Sony fanboy on here...I thought you guys are smart, proud, logical and use "Facts". Can you guys even carry on a legitimate argument or maybe that i'm asking for too much?

[LaWdY-LoU]

So I'm a fool huh? Ok genius tell me this HOW DO U KNOW THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY USING THE FULL POWER OF THE CONSOLE? A lot of developers have said time and time again they use the full power of a console but as the time passes theres a game that surpasses what was said to be a game using full power on said system. This is not a FF argument. This is a PS3 vs Xbox 360 argument and u know it so don't try to make it seem like I'm wrong and your right homeboi. If it were a FF argument there wouldnt be an argument about which system it's on. If u are a true FF fan like u say u are then when it was PS2 vs Xbox where u expecting it to go to Xbox to get it's full potential? Answer that! U pretty much killed yourself with the highest potential talk buddy! U fan boys are a hoot!!

[hassi94]

You spelt 'its' incorrectly.

[ichimaru]

This boilsdown to a bunch of gamers feeling insecure about exclusive games. Its understandable but a bit selfish when you would rather have other not enjoy a game becuase they didn't purchase the console you agree with. If quality was really the concern fans would be crying out about the PS3 exclusives that did not max out the cell... but when it comes to a possiblity of a multiplat "Qualit is a must it won't utilze t3h cell (T_T)" really this site ....

[ichimaru]

concure this is sad. This site is as bad as politics

[baodeus]

9 disagrees and no one can give me any decent answer....while still repeating the same crap with no evidences what so ever. What a disappointment. Thanks you guys for proving my point. Fanboy is a joke.

[capn_crunch]

I don't know why everyone is expecting something from versus to make up for XIII. We know just about nothing about it, have seen no game footage, heck we don't even know if its really gonna be an RPG, or an action-RPG like Kingdom Hearts.

I'm guessing its gonna be a ~20 hr action-rpg title. Who cares if that goes multi-plat.

FF was born on a Nintendo BTW, I don't understand the Sony fanboy-ism for this game.