Nomura: FF Versus 13 "No Difference between CGI and Realtime Graphics"

Tetsuya Nomura, the man behind the PS3 exclusive, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, hypes up his creation, and confirms development of a secret title.

[Optical_Matrix]

Was part of a thread about this exact same article on Gametrailers Forums and it got out of hand quickly http://forums.gametrailers....

What Nomura is saying here is pure PR jargon to increase hype for the game. CGI level graphics are not possible at this point in game development. Not even on PC's as seen with Crysis.
What he probably means is that the pre-rendered cutscene we saw in the most recently trailer is pretty much what the game will look like in real time. Which, imho is amazing.

[Noctis Aftermath]

"The in game graphics have been upgraded, so much so that there is no real difference between the CGI (prerendered video) and the graphics in game"....
so what does that say about people who were/are saying "FF13 Not downgraded for the 360"?

[hay]

I've dewed the dike imagining how awesome Versus will be. I believe in Nomura, he won't dumb this game down like it was with FFXIII.

[Bereaver]

I hate to say it but....

Those of you opposing might be falling short later.

I'm not going to stand up and say it's true, but I'm not going to deny it either.

As for gameplay looking as good as CGI.... In my opinion it determines the quality and the style of CGI you're making.

But in all honestly, I hope you get burnt JUST LIKE KILLZONE!

"It's not real! It's CGI! They can't make a game that good looking!"

I seen it once, and I hope I'll see it again!

[Optical_Matrix]

The difference here is that Killzone 2 2005 trailer was pre-rendered visuals. Not CGI. There is a difference. I am not denying Versus XIII will look as good as the Pre-rendered scene where he talks with Stella because IT IS NOT CGI. Where as, claiming that it will look as good and perfect as say, the E3 06 trailer which was PURE CGI, just like Toy Story, Shrek, Finding Nemo...that's IMPOSSIBLE for videogames. Game Development just isn't there yet. Anyone with sense knows this

[alphakennybody]

"CGI level graphics are not possible at this point in game development. Not even on PC's as seen with Crysis."
well it'll be soon possible check out this link
http://www.edge-online.com/...

[Cyrax_87]

Looks badass so far, I hope it's gets released late 2010, even though that'll mean 3 FFs were released in the same year lol.

edit: I don't want them to rush it at all, I'm just excited to play that's all.

[solidt12]

No F$#@*&^ Way

[Noctis Aftermath]

A 2010 release(even in japan) would not be good imo, 2nd quarter 2011 would be better.

I want the game asap, but i also don't want it to be rushed and lack content, i want versus to be a complete FF and not something like X-2.

[gaffyh]

@optical - You'll notice yourself getting a lot of disagrees for that statement, because the Killzone 2 2005 E3 trailer WAS CGI target render! It was not a prerendered cutscene with post production effects like Insomniac do on their trailers.

And in the end, KZ2 actually looks better than the CGI that they showed, so it is possible for a game to have CGI-like graphics, because KZ2 and Uncharted 2 already proved it's possible.

[BYE]

If the game is linear like FFXIII I'm still not interested.

[raztad]

@^^^

I'm glad you mentioned it. I havent played FFXII but I read game is quite open and there are a lot of sidequests at any moment. Fast Forward to the present, early reports/import reviews said FFXIII is linear as hell the first half of the game and suddenly "open up". Why FFXII on a far weaker system as the PS2 is much more open than FFXIII, then it happens to have more freedom from the second half onwards? I think I have an answer but I'll let you guess.

I would like VS to remain exclusive and see what Nomura can do with the huge storage space in Blu-Ray discs.

[Consoldtobots]

"CGI level graphics are not possible at this point in game development."

and this.... ladies and gents is why the competition gets owned by Sony EVERYTIME, where they say "impossible" Sony says "sure why not".

[Ravage27]

PS3 gamers have high expectations when it comes to graphics, not to mention it is an exclusive after all. Do us proud Nomura

[Godmars290]

We'll find out when actual gameplay's shown weather or not this is another FFVIII comment.

[doG_beLIEfs]

Hey Optical, CGI stands for computer generated image. So technically CGI can look like Wii graphics or Walle. So how can u say that Nomura is wrong? After seeing what the PS3 is starting to show, I tend to believe him over some random poster on N4G. Time and time again, people have said the PS3 can't make a game look that good yet time and time again they are eating crow.

When the this game is really unveiled, you among others will be eating more crow. Keep it up and you will look like Gabe Newell.

@optical

Perhaps you should clarify what you are saying. This game will not achieve Avatar CGI level graphics but could very well obtain Toy Story level CGI.

Better?

[Optical_Matrix]

Don't try and spin this and make it seem I'm trying to put the PS3 down. But the movie cutscene visuals in Versus cannot be replicated on any console or PC for that matter. Not in real time.
The graphics Nomura is talking about is the ones we saw when Noctis speaks to Stella at the party. That is the CGI nomura speaks of. The fluidity of the FMV's is impossible in real time, especially in an RPG of 50+ which is meant to take advantage of the cells ability of having lots going on on screen. All I know is, Versus will probably be the first RPG to have graphics on par with Uncharted 2. Not freakin' movie cutscenes which have 0 flat textures and 1million x anti aliasing.

[kalebgray92]

man been waiting since 05 cant wait for e3... hopefully there is a trailer on the american ffxiii or a demo but i highly doubt that

[gaffyh]

Now I see where you were going, of course it won't look as good as movie CG, it's going to look as good as game CG. And game CG can be vary in quality, there may still be aliasing issues, but as long as it looks close to the CG, I'm not bothered.

[DaTruth]

Crysis went for realism in an open-world game with immense physics and destruction down to nuclear explosions. Final Fantasy CGI will be going for the Japanimation look, with far less physics and destruction; The gameplay will not have half the task Crysis took on!

Also most Japan CGI movies don't have the texture detailing Crysis has, where a closeup on a leaf is comparable to a closeup on a real leaf! Have you seen how bad some of The Matrix Reloaded CGI looks in slow motion!

He could be talking about Cars CGI! There are many levels of CGI!

[Saaking]

Of course. After all, it is a PS3 exclusive.

[shadow2797]

Well if we can take anything away from this, it's that Versus is still very much alive. If I'm ever going to play a new Final Fantasy, this is it. I hate turn-based systems and I like dark games. Perfect.

[bpac123456789]

If you compare the final fantasy graphics now to the cgi trailers they realeased earlier than mabye they can match that. But when u try to say it can match cgi on the level of, let's say, the movie "avatar" than your seriously dillusional. It's not only not going to happen it's impossible, we probably won't see graphics like that on a console or pc for another decade at least.

[sikbeta]

Didn't Nomura said that FFvs13 will be better?

So is going to be better than FF13 and by that we all PS3 owners say FFvs13 will be The Real FF game to raise the Bar like always

[creatchee]

CGI rendering is most likely unattainable not because of hardware constraints but because of the variable of human interaction. Cutscenes are a controlled environment (unless you're talking interactive ones, which I'm ignoring for the purpose of this discussion). Therefore, the developers control the lighting, the shading, the positioning, the effects etc.

When you put a player behind the controller, everything changes because you no longer have the perfect angle to show what you want, the perfect placement of effects in relation to the camera, and the exact action that you want to see done at the right moment.

Either way, Versus looks pretty darned good. Better graphics are always welcome on my TV :)

[gaffyh]

I just want to ask those that say FF13 hasn't been dumbed down, if Versus comes out and looks significantly better, will you admit that the Xbox 360 limited the game?

^Serious question, not a fanboy question. I'm sure many people still argue that, I think it has been dumbed down (to a certain extent), though that doesn't necessarily make it a bad game. Just that it could have been a better game if it was exclusive to one platform.

[zeeshan]

Exclusive my a$$, it's only exclusive until M$ sends a big fat check to SE. I for one am not going to hold my breath for this game until it's 100% sure that it won't be downgraded to fit DVD9.

As for this whole CGI issue. Anyone remembers that "MORTAL KOMBAT: The Journey Begins" animated movie? That was CGI back in the day which is like a piece of cake nowadays.

[The Lazy One]

1. It probably won't anyway because one is an exclusive and most exclusives will be more optimized than 90% of the non-exclusives.

2. It depends on a lot of things. FFXIII we know is supposed to be 50 hours long for the main storyline. A 50 hour long less visually impressive game is at least as gameplay impressive as an 8 hour long better looking game.

@whoever above was talking about linear gameplay

FFVII (one of the best in the FF series) was pretty linear for the majority of the first disk too. As long as it opens up eventually it won't be that tragic to play it linearly for a while.

[ThanatosDMC]

Looks CGI to me. Anyway, i'll be stunned if it's not CGI but then again wasnt there a small video of the main character all dressed up in a tuxedo and the girl he met was wearing white and they talked? That was in game. I cant find the video on youtube at the moment.

The beginning is CGI the conversation with the chick wearing white is in game: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Big difference, dont you think?

[gaffyh]

@1.27 - True, though I expect Versus to have as much gameplay as XIII hopefully, but I see what you mean. I'm also not bothered about FF13 being linear, most RPGs are quite linear in the beginning because you need to get a feel for the story and characters in that time.

[ABizzel1]

Well show us what it looks like then.

[meepmoopmeep]

if it looks anything like the in-game cutscene that was on the AC:C demo of FFXIII

[Darrius Cole]

Tellus dormit
et liberi in diem faciunt
numquam extinguunt
ne expergisci possint

Omnia dividit
tragoedia coram
amandum quae

Et nocte perpetua
ehem vel vera visione
par oram videbo te
mane tempu expergiscendi

I interpret this article to mean that VersusXIII gameplay already looks like this....

http://www.gametrailers.com...

....which is well within a PS3's power.

Now I must pray to God that Microsoft doesn't see the awesomness that is coming to PS3 and pay untold amounts of cash to nerf the game by buying it for the 360.

[cyberwaffles]

so wait a minute, if versus is going to look like CGI, why didn't FXIII look like it?

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

PS3 exclusives shows their true power!

[raztad]

@Lazy

I think you totally missed my point but somehow managed to make my point stronger. I wasnt saying FFXIII is a bad game (the guy I was replaying suggested it though). I just commented that the strict linearity and then a freer roaming later in the game is a strategy to go around the limitations imposed by disc storage.

As you said something similar happened with FFVII and it makes sense. Devels dont want you to be swapping disc continually.

[Marceles]

@raztad

I heard the same thing about how linear it is. So far it's been linear but I'm nowhere near at the end of the game, it's still really fun to level up though and leveling up the characters brings back memories of FFX. I'm still waiting on the opened up part, so far it's like a linear FF6 where your party is always split up and then meets up later, the summons are awesome too.

[DatNJDom81]

-"The in game graphics have been upgraded, so much so that there is no real difference between the CGI (prerendered video) and the graphics in game."

Ah so FFXIII was downgraded...... tsk tsk.

-"This is a dark Final Fantasy as everyone expected (FF7/8 fans rejoice)."

Thats what I'm talking about. A dark mature story. This is why I'm getting FFXIII Versus instead of FFXIII. Being that they are not even connected in story means I wont be missing out on anything.

[Shepherd 214]

you people are really dense enough to think that teh PS3 can actual output CGI level graphics, something that no high-end PC's cant even do?

[Maddens Raiders]

baby!

[morganfell]

The only people trying to spin this are very worried 360 fans. Notice how busy optical has been in this thread? His actions are commonly referred to as Damage Control. Too bad because it won't help his sinking ship.

[7thNightvolley]

halo reach vid is ingame ... NO NO NO IMPOSSIBLE!!!

FF VS.. is in game .. OH YES YES .... EQUALS CGI?.. oh hell yes yes...

i have seen it all on N4G. loool

[7thNightvolley]

one reason i would say in terms of graphical tech.. i dont think the japs .. are even close to the west.. so for this game to be CGI=INGAME.. bullcrap!.. if they prove me wrong heck.. ps3 is stronger than the highest end PC.. PC gamers sell ur stuff coz its a big junk of crap if a console can out >crysis level stuff.

[pixelsword]

["The in game graphics have been upgraded, so much so that there is no real difference between the CGI (prerendered video) and the graphics in game"....
so what does that say about people who were/are saying "FF13 Not downgraded for the 360"?]

Firstly, it will show that the White Engine wasn't a multiplatform engine after all, and to be honest, it would say a lot; I myself thought FFXIII "could have" been downgraded, but at the same time, I had no proof. If FF Vs. XIII blows XIII out of the water, there will be nothing left to say. Nothing. It will be to me the final nail in the coffin about the downgrading. Every PS3 game that goes multiplat will be garbage to me (like Quantum, or WarDevil if the rumors stand true).

This is what PS3 owners instinctively thought all along; and is why exclusives get a little more respect in terms of sales... and will increase sales for exclusives when verified.

Can you imagine what Red Faction could have been like if it was exclusive?

How about what Agent will look like versus GTA IV?

@ 7thNightvolley;

The emphasis wasn't that if it was CG or not, the emphasis was that it wasn't the best looking on fine details like the lady's face, for example. I thought the vid looked good, but right now we're looking at trade-offs as well in terms of quality versus game/level size, length of play and things like that.

[gaffyh]

@7thNightVolley - I don't remember anyone saying that the Halo Reach trailer looked too good to be in engine. I actually thought it looked kinda crap, better than ODST, but still not good enough.

People who complained mentioned that it had an unusually high amount of anti-aliasing, which the Digital Foundry guys found, so they said it must have been pre-rendered in-engine footage, with post production effects to smooth out any jagged edges. A lot of companies do this in cutscenes e.g. Insomniac, it's still in-engine, but the post production effects are added on top of the video.

[Pozzle]

But will the story and battle systems be any good?

The game might look pretty, but I'm not playing it for the graphics. It's plot and gameplay I'm more interested in.

[GrandDragon]

Anyone who remembers that old tech demo of FF7 running on the PS3 in real-time with CGI quality graphics knows that this guy ain't chatting a load of BS. That tech demo looks like FF13's CGI cut-scenes so I can only imagine how far they've come working exclusively with the PS3's hardware.

Optical_Matrix he said the graphics have been upgraded from the last time we saw anything of FFvs13 which means no one knows what it looks like right now.

I know you're trying to damage control.

[Optical_Matrix]

I'm not trying to damage control at all. If you look at my post history I'm a huge PS3 fanboy and a big fan of Final Fantasy. But I'm being realistic. The game will look amazing. But if Crysis cannot look as good as CGI then what makes you think a PS3 Exclusive will?
I reckon what he means is the game will look as good as or better than the last trailer we saw with Noctis and Stella at the party. Those visuals looks absolutely stunning for real time, and if they've been upgraded, i can't wait to see them

[mfwahwah]

Why are you comparing "CGI level graphics" to Crysis? Crysis aimed to be realistic. CGI =/= realism any way you want to spin it.

[nefertis]

Some gamers are forgetting about blu-ray with 50gigs its possible the gameplay can look like CGI because of blu-ray and the cell processor nothing has to be compress like video and audio, unlike dvd9s everything will be compress.Kz2 and uncharted 2 shock alot of people and to this day nothing comes close to these two on a consoles. I know i will be flame for this but brink hasnt shown me full gameplay yet and I haven't played cyrsis yet on the console so no argument there. Play3beyond

[pixelsword]

but Optical_Matrix, you're forgetting how Killzone 2 exceeded it's trailer (I'm not bringing out the pics again) so it's been done ALREADY. This will make FFXIII a living joke if versus expands on XIII in every way.

I'll be watching for sure, and I'm almost willing to say anyone who values the quality of their games will be, too.

[aaron5829]

It's good to hear... I've said it before... i played the demo of FF13 when i imported the FF7AC bluray..i was so disappointed with the graphics.. the gameplay.. the everything..

Hopefully FFV13 is what FF13 supposed to be.

[chidori666]

comfirmed: ffversus>>>>ff13 gimped.

game not have the gimped textures like ff13

prove:

http://www.uffsite.net/imag... ( broken textures in the hand of girl)

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

ff versus:

in game>---> http://hardcoregaming.files...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

cant wait for this amazing exclusive only on ps3 ;)

[Assassin Creed]

BEHOLD THE POWER OF CELL BOTS.

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[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

WELCOME TO THE...
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[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

- The in game graphics have been upgraded, so much so that there is no real difference between the CGI (prerendered video) and the graphics in game.

- This is a dark Final Fantasy as everyone expected (FFVII/VIII fans rejoice).

FFXIII is not only the girly version but its was downgraded too...

[Udidntlistenpunk]

Secret [email protected]

Enough said. We play real games worthy of being called Next gen.

Bots play avatar racing or Microsoft Paint Natal

[L-Teezy]

i see FF13 just giving the xboxers a taste of FF, then FFVersus13 comes along and drives them crazy....leading alot of them to jump ship.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Only on Playstation 3.

Cry on bots, cry on.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[happy_gilmore]

1. FFv13 is a ps3 exclusive. there is no way the crapbox can handle graphics like that.
2. FF13 was gimped. it could have also been CGI quality graphics if it was a ps3 exclusive.

cry more bots!

[rezenu]

If the graphics have been updated THAT well, wow...PS3 fans are in for a treat.

[Gabe EatsWell]

"The in game graphics have been upgraded, so much so that there is no real difference between the CGI (prerendered video) and the graphics in game."

I have no doubt now that the game's graphics will sh*t on FFgimpedXIII because of the Xflop 360.

[nefertis]

@LuHawk22 GabeEatsWell is cool chill out LuHawk22

[DigitalAnalog]

After reading the article (unlike most people), I think what he EXPLICITLY means that there's no difference between real-time and the CGI based video sequences after it. I don't think he's talking about CGI (Hollywood visuals come to mind) in general.

-End Statement

[DaTruth]

He should have said pre-rendered cutscenes! Technically pre-rendered cutscenes qualify as CGI, but they aren't CGI per se!

[Eamon]

Now, I can't wait to see this.

Uncharted 2's graphics were like an inch away from CGI.

[BYE]

MGS4 graphics are like cgi.

[Ju]

No, they are not. Put in UC2 after MGS4 and you know what I mean. MGS4 is good - still, but some textures (esp. ground, rocks and distance drawing) look aged now. But, say, against UC2/KZ2, it still beats most of the games even released today.

[justlikeme]

R&C is pretty darn close, if not at the level of toy story...

[Ravage27]

was the 1st next-gen looking game i bought :)

The gfx was unbelievable back then

[7thNightvolley]

there is a difference in terms.. of art style of a game. which could also affect the way a CGI is done.. anygame can achieve a high level of detail if the art style doesnt require it to go into reality as such... and i dont see how FF has realistic graphics.. so i would say CGI=INGAME is a possibility... but if u really want to test the power of graphics take the game to reality take it to crysis or something in that caliber and lets see how far it will hold.. with all the complex lighting shadows and all.. i dout it would be achievable on this gen of console .. next gen definitely coz i knw sony and MS .. will do something truely scary to even PCs.. but nontheless this will be a beautiful looking game ..

[PS360WII]

all we can do is wait and see but yes this is PR more or less. If it turns out true well done but it's still PR after all.

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

"Nomura confirms steady development on another title, which is not a new IP, but hasn't confirmed what it is, although it may be Kingdom Hearts 3."

Kingdom Hearts 3 TBA exclusively on the console that only does everything. :)

[PS360WII]

The Wii? ^^

[Lord_Ranos]

360? LOL

[Doc Sony]

He said: "the console that only does everything"

not: "a piece of sh!t toy"

[PS360WII]

Maybe the iPhone? There is an app for everything after all :)

[Lord_Ranos]

OH I know its the superior console called th3 PS3.
I thought he said the console that burns everything. lol

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

Noctis is going to be the new Cloud.

I can feel it. ^^

[Doc Sony]

And VersusXIII is going to be the true Final Fantasy experience this gen. Only possible on the PS3, not watered down for the 360.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Sure does look like it huh...hes going to be better than Cloud.

[Darkfiber]

Isn't that what they say about all their games?

[Optical_Matrix]

How are people confusing CGI and pre-rendered game footage. The game will not look CGI. No games do. CGI is level of stuff you see in films like 300 and Toy Story. The trailer shown at E306 wasn't even a target render. It was just a pure CGI movie put together to show what the story is about.
Do people realize that CGI is done because the processor doesn't need to worry about other calculations :A.I, textures, physics etc.
With a CGI movie you don't need to worry about any of that. It's just a movie. It cannot be done in real time. And it's pathetic to think you'll be seeing this level of detail in the final games graphics http://finalfantasyversusxi...

it will look like this http://scrawlfx.com/wp-cont...

[thehitman]

Are almost identical if it didnt show the pixel differences you couldnt tell and I am pretty sure they are closer to the first than the second. Like Nomura said "no real difference between the CGI" and try playing games like MGS4 before you say no games look like CGI. It felt like I was playing a big CGI. I still think MGS4 is top 3 graphics this gen.

[mfwahwah]

Your point?

People will figure this out on their own when they see it on their TV screen. No use taking up arms and going "NUH UH!"

[Doc Sony]

You're owning yourself by showing the second picture which looks as good as the first.

[Optical_Matrix]

@mfwahwah. I have seen this running on my TV. I have the demo disc the trailer comes on running at 1080p and I can tell you that the level of CG compared to the pre-rendered part of the trailer is COMPLETELY different and is clear as the sun in the blue sky. People need to realize i'm not out to shoot the game down. I'm a huge Square fanboy and even bigger PS3 fanboy. I believe the PS3 can come close to graphics seen in CGI like Toy Story. But for fantasy, on the level we see in Avatar and Final Fantasy, it cannot be done in real time on consoles. I don't see what is so difficult to grasp about this concept.
You and all supporting you are essentially telling me that Final Fantasy Advent Children Complete can be done seemlessly in real time and look EXACTLY the same as the film. You have to be delusional to think such claims (and don't shoot the Advent Children Complete example because Nomura has said that the Advent Children Completes new scenes used a CGI engine based off of Versus CGI engine.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Who the hell even said RT graphics were "exactly" like CGI? You are getting too worked up over something people never once claimed. Calm down.

[Thoreau]

i see you post disbelief...the disbelief you can only harness if you don't own a ps3

[Immortal321]

Only on the playstation3

and the Playstation3 can really do everything

[Godmars290]

Except in this case we haven't seen the trailer in question.

[thehitman]

Are using 2 different engines versus is using an engine specifically made from the ground up for the ps3 and 13 is using a middleware tool for their multiplats. That is why only 13 is multiplat and not versus. Versus is Only on Playstation 3.

[theEnemy]

M$ some 50mil or so and let Sqeenix port it to the 360 after or alongside with the PS3 release.

[dtrain21]

Final Fantasy games are borin, repetitive, and slow. Take this garbage back to Japan. Be nice to me droids and bots !

[justlikeme]

WOW optical!!! If the second picture is what it will look like, I will be preordering that tihs right now!!!

[Nathan Drake2]

i hope it stays ps3 exclusive.

[Shane Kim]

Like everything american, so does the 360 live in the past. American consoles, american cars etc.

Support PS3, pure japanese, quality hardware. Only then will you be able to play CGI.

PS3, it only does everything and then some more.

[dkgshiz]

I love the PS3 but I hate Japanese cars. I have a 08 Camry along with a 07 suburban. The toyota is nothing I expected. Everything about it is underwhelming. It gets pretty average MPG to. I get around 20mpg. Where my suburban gets 14.6. I know thats not good at all. The problem is the Surburban is twice the size of the toyota! The Camry should be getting at least 28MPG. Not to mention the Suburban also has a V8 in it. While the camry just has a 4 cylinder engine. Im thinking about trading in my Camry for a used 06 BMW at my local car dealer. It only has like 15,000 on it. Much better car then a Camry.

[Consoldtobots]

as much as I love America I have to agree with Shane, as the old timers who taught me when I was a kid would say, "this nation has become a buncha slackers".

psssst the camry has been made in america for quite a few years bub, ouch.

[redneck_smith]

TOO MANY ANGRY XBOX FANS IN THIS ARTICLE

[wxer]

thank god
the xbox wont gimp this game

[the_bebop]

Even if this game doesn't have CGI in game graphics it will still look great, compared to anything else that could possibly get released on the PS3 at the time. Also there are probably millions of Nomura/Kingdom Hearts fans/fanboys just waiting to pick this game, not to mention those who also might be interested in this game who are not fans/fanboys.

[TwistedMetal]

No use buying ff13 unless you buying it for the ps3 so all those x360 only owners should be grabbing a ps3 this christmas instead of missing out on what this gen of gameing really have to offer. Its christmas and you getting holiday money so no use not to grab a ps3 especially if you are a ff or rpg fan.

[doG_beLIEfs]

CGI is short for computer generated image.

So a 1995 game Worms (my favorite multiplayer game of all time) has opening CGI and in between game CGI cutscenes that if it were passed off as game play now it would be laughed at for how terrible it looks.

CGI NOW is obviously much more detailed than b4. So what Nomura is saying is that the CGI (for his game...not a pixar movie) will look identical to the realtime gameplay. Since he knows what level of CGI he is created for the game I am going to believe him over you (optical) or other random posters.

[Lavalamp]

I just love waking up to great gaming news. First, I hear that the End of Eternity demo has hit the Japanese store earlier than expected. Then, I get to hear a reaffirmed statement about new Versus info in early 2010. Now, I hear what could possibly be Kingdom Hearts 3? Pure bliss my friends.

[2-oj]

Only possible on the PS3... ;)

Poor bots. :D

[Godmars290]

If he can just tweak what the HR devs are doing to deliver action sequences, connect them to actual CG cutsenes flawlessly, then we may have something.

Another thing doubters might be ignoring are all the Cell processor demos that were done when the chip was first introduced. That so far we've yet to see a PS3 title really use that tech. Just like any multiplatform game can't.

[Veneno]

I've never been a Final Fantasy or SE fan, so when I saw the first trailers for FF13, I was like meh another Final Fantasy. But when I saw the first trailer for VS 13 with Noctis and the group of guys doing the road trip, with the awesome visuals, Ithought wow, this is something really special. I even teared up a little bit at how beautiful it all was.

[robotnik]

Nomura should be the next SE president, Wada is very unpopular and nobody likes him. This guy Nomura is loved by everyone and his designs are awesome too.

[reintype]

but it would affect his game development duties.

The best move they could do is to fire Wada and hire Ken Kutaragi.

[Kamikaze135]

If Nomura were president of SE, he would enforce his design style on the devs =D

[Myth-Psn]

He wouldn't spew the kind of BS that the likes of MS heads like GREENBURG would, And Nomura knows what he's talking about.It's my guess that him and his team alone are keeping Vs 13 exclusive.This does prove that FF13 was gimped to allow for less-able hardware to appear adiquate for the title.Thank god for the true devs still within square enix who haven't forgotten their roots of success and just want to deliver the best experiance for their titles.

[Mr_Luke]

Even if i didn't want to get it, i'm going to buy FFXIII for my PS3. But i'm sure this, Versus, will be my true next-gen FF. Can't wait >_< i want more infos, i want a trailer, i want something damn!! =P

[bnaked]

Sony gave up the FF13 exclusiveness, because thats the way, they can showcase that the PS3 is the superior console.. FFvs13 will show the diffrence between multiplatform development and ps3 exclusive development.. It's the same engine, but on the ps3 it will look like .. yep.. CGI ^^ And all developers out there will think: "oh my god, we should take the ps3 as the leadplatform".

Maybe i'm talking bullsh!t, but maybe not.. xD Hey don't be angry about my english, I'm german and had some beers..^^

[nefertis]

play3beyond

[bjornbear]

is this a PS3 exclusive? If so...why dey doin it o.O?!

[KnightOfAlbion]

Well the correct question is... why wouldn't they?
The Final Fantasy series are known for being exclusive to the PlayStation brand. Your question would make more sense if it was "Why is FFXIII on XBox 360?" =)

Oh and yes it is a PS3 exclusive x)

[Omega Zues]

I freakin cant wait to see the latest trailer. I hope to be blown away.

[Barragan]

all the e3 2005 demos were done to ps3 spec, saying,"crysis doesnt even look like cgi" is stupid especially since its your fault of putting crysis in your own mind like its really the top of the towere in visuals this gen, the only area crysis looks best is the aim for photorealism and size, no ps3 game even aims for photorealism, theres no pc game out that looks like cgi, the only game on pc that looks like cgi is the game thats coming out in 2012 that is an anime thats being made on future amd processors, lets let you in on a little secret ps3 still is only scratching the surface havent you heard what digi guys has said sonys hype was right, ps3 currently has 5 or more cgi developers working on it including 1 High End cgi developer which is digi guys, what platform is their platform of choice? ps3, pc has no none zip nada cgi developers working for it, makes me put in question what is really the superior platform despite cost, and one more thing, in e3 2005 sony confirmed they use cell to make their movies and the objective of ps3 was to blur the line between realtime and cgi anyway, so yes when its all said and done ps3 will be putting out movie cgi in realtime when you get some really talented cgi developers working on it, from first 3 year games of ps3 is it really any need to doubt that ps3 is capable of this stuff, sony told the truth of the ps3 and more is yet to come

[keysy420]

wish this one was coming out first

[Man_of_the_year]

Wow. Is FFXIII an exclusive now? Cause these droids sure are acting like it is....

HELLO!!! FFXIII is also on 360!!! Why are you idiots acting like the 360 can't handle this game? It's on the 360 as well. Suddenly FFXIII matters now and not Versues?

LOL the Sony Fanboys just keep getting more and more stupid.

History has shown that 95% of ALL multiplats perform better on the 360. Odds are in favour that FFXIII will look or perform better on the 360. And when it does, suddenly all the Droids will say, lazy devs, or they had to dumb down the PS3 version...bla bla bla. And if it does look better or perform better on the PS3, then congrats, 1 game within the 5% that actually does. And those that own a PS3 and 360 will have the CHOICE as to which version to get. Like myself.

[Obama]

What the heck are you babbling about? We are talking about Versus here, and it's exclusive to the ps3. In any case, want to bet that ff13 will be superior on the ps3???

[TheTeam06]

Ahhh.... brings back memories..

"Wow. Is MW2 an exclusive now?"

1. It's exclusive in Japan, so when it comes to these sales, yes, it is exclusive. Plus, this is VERSUS we're talking about. That's PS3 exclusive worldwide, if I'm not mistaken.

2. As for the second part of your post, talking about imaginary percentages and claiming the 360 port will be better also brings me back...

"Where is your source for the 1st fact?"

^ posted by YOU 5 hours ago replying to some guy who said 360 can't run Uncharted. Seems like you should bring some facts as well, don't you think?

[Man_of_the_year]

My Mistake.

I retract my previous comment.

@Obama - you are probably right, however if you're not...you will look just as foolish as I. =)

[Thoreau]

i am a ps3 fanboy(i guess). tell us man of the second, what 360 game has delivered mind blowing graphics?????????????

there is a difference between the ps3 and the 360. ffvs13 will show us if uc2, mgs4, and kz2 have not already..

[Consoldtobots]

I dont know what it is about the xbox brand that attracts such massive idiots.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I don't know why many people in here are? not saying the game will be terrible, just saying I've yet to see a game of theirs be "next-gen" in my opinion!

[PirateThom]

I tend to agree, but, Square Enix's problem isn't the developers, it's their management and many people still hold a soft spot for Nomura.

[menoyou]

Well now that we know FFXIII sucks, I guess Versus is our last hope for a good Square-Enix game this gen, lmao. Square-Enix hasn't done anything right for two generations now.

[sin1161]

"This is a dark Final Fantasy as everyone expected (FFVII/VIII fans rejoice)".
A decade wow, all these years we were waiting for something like ffvii.
From the trailer I've seen with demo of ffxiii I think its worth the wait, so any one who haven't seen the trailer in real HD not the gimped images or videos you see around I say to you you missed what the phrase "No Difference between CGI and Real-time Graphics" mean .

So FF versus xiii welcome to your true home the Play Station brand .

SIN

[Henry Cain]

He just confirmed that FF13 is a downgraded game, and that FF13vs will be a true next gen FF game.

[Obama]

Well we all know ff13 is downgraded.

[PLAYstar]

I'm afraid Nomura, that isn't a WOW factor. We PS3 gamers been playing games with graphical CGI since back in 2008!! However I do know your words is reference to whom may concern a.k.a last-geners.

[NewNameNow]

You're all aware toning down how good the games CGI looks to a level where real time rendered graphics can match makes it the same right?

You don't HAVE to offer the best graphics possible...

[ps3rulz]

This my friends will be the DIFINITIVE FF this gen.
Only on ps3, it's true home.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Man I would give anything to leave this an exclusive. I had enough suffering with DMC going multiplat.

Anyway I know Nomura wont disappoint anyone of us here. It will be big. Cant wait.

[jalen247]

I guess we will see. I take the man at his word. If there won't be any difference in CGI and Realtime Graphics in FF Vs XIII then we will definitely know that the 360 held back FF XIII. Maybe the secret title is FF VII remake or KH III.

[Thoreau]

ps3=illuminati

360=sheeple

[SpartanZero]

The ps3 is maxxed out. The 360 is pushing out exclusives with graphics in mind barely next year and already Alan Wake looks better than anything on the ps3.

[TheTeam06]

.... ROFLMFAO

I needed that. Thanks

LMAO!

[dkgshiz]

So far no 360 game has even reached Uncharted type graphics yet. So looks like you fail. Alan Wake in game graphics look average at best. Just stop being so stupid.

[Myzer]

Another idiotic comment by Jijoro. Why am I not surprised?

[Pyrrhus]

Wow theres tak of KH3 in there .. but dont want to get my hopes up.

[Ashriel]

wow! The game will be awesome! even if it had PS2 graphics! :D

[Ps_alm3k]

All games that aren't fun!......

Nomura is the one that work in FF 7-13, this guy knows what he is doing and he is definitely a Sony Fanboy. PS3 for the freakin win!!!!!!!!

[dkgshiz]

Everyone wants it to happen. I mean WTF are they thinking? Give me a FF7 remake already! Only on the PS3 though. FF on the xbox just seems really generic to me. I cant wait for Versus!

[saint_john_paul_ii]

well they better keep it as PS3 exclusive.

[Xi]

why?

[Mikeyy]

@Xi

Isn't it obvious? Any game made excusively for it's system has Much better graphics than a Multiplatform game, thats because many features are only available on 1 console or the other, NOT BOTH. When the ported version gets made, all those tiny little features get redone or removed.

If Vs 13 stays PS3 only, then they could use the Cell processor the way its ment to. If it goes Multi-platform, then they are stuck to only the one CPU.

[Xi]

Just look at regular multiplatform games, they all have their own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the console they're running on. If square enix decides to use the full strength of the ps3, then ports a lesser 360 version what does it matter?

fanboys really crack me up.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

"Just look at regular multiplatform games, they all have their own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the console they're running on. If square enix decides to use the full strength of the ps3, then ports a lesser 360 version what does it matter?"

and what happens when you concentrate on one platform? you get better results. this has nothing to do with fanboyism.

[Xi]

and about ff12...

[strotee]

12 was exclusive to PS2, my friend.

[Aleusia]

Confirmed to be the REAL FF13 experience of the current generation.

[stonecold1]

comes out because final fantasy got gimped because of the crapbox thats why final fantasy was delayed because of the crapbox we could of had final fantasy out ages ago well im happy the crapbox is not getting this version at least it will be the real next gen finalfantasy not like the other version because the crapbox holds everything back from development the other version of final fantasy could had been like this if it wernt for the crapbox

[Aleusia]

To be the real FF13.

[DARKrage34]

the PlayStation 3 entertainment system from B3YOND this Japanese game-filled earth...

...phewww. I only wish FF13 was an exclusive and not just versus.

Can't wait for KHIII!

[Sigh]

now you got me going paranoid for anticipating this game... And damn is Stella hot XD (I know I know party poopers she's only made up of pixels)

[tawak]

it will be announced on 360 as well,history will repeat it self,360 doesnt have any big games so all they do is steal big games on ps3,but still buying the ps3 hd version i dont wanna play it on the youtube version and 3 dvd dics!

[Aleusia]

...No, just no..

[fm81]

bull f'cken sh't..closest thing to a CGI is what you get from uncharted 2,the folks that develop uncharted 2 say they push the PS3 to its limits,so thats probly top graphic in any PS3 game,if FFversus13 developer say no difference in realtime n CGI,than hes full of jap crap,killzone 2 got the same thing going on when it came out no difference btween CGI n realtime,FFversus13 probly gonna look like uncharted 2 graphics unless PS3 av options to upgrade to a new video card like what you do on PC,but its not,some dude name eddy raja post a link to a website saying you can do CGI graphics on realtime gameplay coz a game like wardevil or something looks CGI,if you actually see those graphics,it doesnt come close to CGI standards,uncharted 2 is better looking than that,if the folks that develop uncharted 2 say they push PS3 to its limits,than the limit for FFversus13 graphics will be something similar to what you get on uncharted 2,also,stop believing in developers claiming no diff btween CGI n realtime in there games,we been hearing that since FF10 to FF12,unless FFversus13 is full of CGI cutscenes that is,oh wait,FF13 is full of CGI cutscenes,its probly that what hes talking about innit.

[dopeboimagic92]

Because it's on PS3. No surprise here... :)

[B-Rein]

thats my game

[pointypants]

= = this sounds stupid and a waste of resource

[TwistedMetal]

ff 13 is gonna be garbage compared to versus 13.

[die_fiend]

Anyone who believes this is retarded. If you honestly think that this game will look like that CGI trailer is delusional. Since when has anyone had a game that looks like CGI? Oh yeah, no one. UC2 looks incredible but still isn't quite CGI. They wouldn't bother making CGI if the graphics were the same surely? I'm sure it'll look amazing but anyone who thinks it'll look, for example, like the FF13 CGI is stupid

[free3sixty]

How could FF13 be gimped due to the 360 if the SAME FIRST STAGE level looks better on the e3 360 presentation compared to the final PS3 version? lol

Just go and watch the E3 video. Sharper textures and better colors on the 360 verson. Ialready saw PS3 version and it suffers from the same problems like every multiplattform game.. whased out colors.

FF13 was gimped down due to the inferior PS3 hardware. VS13 uses the same Engine. If FF13 will sell great on the 360 in the USA there is no way that Square wont release VS13 for the 360 too.

[abc1233]

if you're gonna be a fanboy, try not to be a blatant dumbass. The game was developed for the ps3 at the start, unlike all the other multiplats so this one will be different from the other multiplats.

The e3 video was on the PC and as the game progressed, the graphics had to be dumbed down for both platforms, except ps3 still has uncompressed lossless audio and video, unliike another system....

[free3sixty]

FUKEN IDIOT.. I TOLD WATCH THE E3 360 PRESENTATION.. WTF are you talking about you dumb PS3 kid.

They clearly state "This is the first 360 footage"

NOW GO AND WATCH IT.

I know you are afraid to see a better picture on the 360 demo although square had only 2 months time to make a 360 footage, lol.

Now i ask you again: How could the game be gimped down due to the 360 hardware if the 360 E3 presentation looked on the 1st lvl better (colors, textures) compared to the PS3 FINAL version??

The only thing which is better on the PS3 version is the uncompressed audio, lol!

I remember the japanese ISO from MGS4, the TRUE HD audio file was 22 GB BIG.... compressed on a DVD9 and 5.1 you could make 3-4 GB of it.

Know you know why the 360 version misses 15 GB of data... its all about the sound not the graphics.

[abc1233]

fair enough, let's just wait until the US versions are released for hte comparisons. Then you can stfu and crawl back to your xbox fanboy hole.

[newarknj360]

i honestly agree.......download the ff13 videos off of xboxlive....u really cant tell the difference between the cgi and ingame, honestly this game has more details in the characters than any game i laid my eyes on

[lucifon]

Well there is...otherwise they'd use in-game stuff all the time to show off the game rather than CG.

[gtamike123]

Welcome to "Next Gen" only on PS3

[divideby0]

I have watched a few HD live game play sessions (PS3 version) and it looks fantastic..Combat is fast, fluid and seamless, at least for the PS3 version. Havent seen any 360 yet.

Most def a game if you own all the consoles..PS3 is hands down version to get. If you have both consoles and going to get the 360 version..why is the question to ask...(awaits the stupid X game chat reason..lol)

[hyderide]

Nomura is a liar.

[the_bebop]

Explane please because the same could be said about any other developer.

[Aleusia]

fans don't want to believe anything if it doesn't suit them

[ChickeyCantor]

All this Ps3 talk makes me wanna destroy my PS3. The talk on gfx is just getting ridiculous, every year its the same sh/t just with a different game.
As much as i love the oldschool FF games, this game will have mediocre gameplay at best.

Hit me!