Square Enix clarifies position on Final Fantasy for 360

Square Enix has clarified that recent comments made by Shinji Hashimoto regarding Final Fantasy on Xbox 360 were referring to the company's current plans.

Japan's Nikkei BP quoted the executive producer as saying, "As for Final Fantasy on the Xbox 360, it's currently a completely blank page." Some reports interpreted this to mean that the series will never again appear on Microsoft's next-gen console.

However, a spokesperson for Square Enix told GamesIndustry.biz, "Hashimoto-san was talking about the current situation" - which would suggest his comments shouldn't be interpreted as forward-looking.

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter said he expects the next Final Fantasy to appear on PlayStation 3 exclusively - but observed that Square Enix will face a tough decision.

"The series has always been single console and given the Xbox 360 sell through in Japan, it would be hard to put the next Final Fantasy instalment on the 360 only," he told GI.biz.

[nice_cuppa]

so ff13 games are going to 360 !

i figured the cost of developing these games and the low ps3 userbase would lead to multiplatform ff.

[TheMART]

Just like I said already... A blank page can be written on any time...

Mark my words

FFXIII will be announced for the 360. Like MGS4 comes over also with the latest comment "MGS4 on 360 is pure speculation", doesn't sound as an exclusive to me!

Combined with removing the PS3 logo in the MGS4 trailer... Now this again... Daaammnnnn 2 of the largest franchises are jumping as rats from the PS3 sinking titanic

@ hella whip

"Just like every exclusive game has a blank page for other consoles. You could say this about any game that's exclusive to a console and not first party. "

Wrong there. Most real exclusives say they're exclusive. Like Gears from Epic. They don't say it's a 'blank page for PS3'.

Thus: this is confirmation between the lines. You can just be sure of that.

@ Babylonian (below)

If it would still be real PS3 exclusives, they would say so. All points in the direction of the games going multiplatform

[tonsoffun]

I dunno man, making a multiplatform game out of a single platform game isn't jumping ship - merely adapting to the escalating developing costs of this generation.

Besides, I hope they do go multiplatform - if they keep the PS3 as the lead development platform, we wil finally see what a PS3 port on the 360 looks like - will they be inferior, will they look better?

Who knows. But it is a good day for everyone when games like this go multiplatform - the devout brand followers will be able to experience these possibly great games.

[hella whip]

Just like every exclusive game has a blank page for other consoles. You could say this about any game that's exclusive to a console and not first party.

[Babylonian]

Nothing is certain, we still have to hear an official announcement of both games coming to the 360. Just like DMC was officially announced to go multi. These games are still presumed PS3 exlusives, so don't jump your horses that fast based on just speculation you made up. Speculations are good so we can discuss what we think is going to happen but they aren't certain or true. Don't forget that.

[Darth Gamer]

A good friend of mine who is one of the top managers for EB games and Gamestop said he was talking to a Playstation Rep the other day and was told that Sony lost exclusive rights to Final Fantasy and that FF13 would be ported over to the 360. True or not, is yet to be seen but I know he wasn't lying about the conversation. He actually is talking me out of buying a PS3 instead of the opposite like a good company man would. He also told me that MGS4 is also on the way sometime in the not too distant future. I will wait till the holiday season and see if new news comes of this before spending the 600$. There is too much on the 360 right now for me to make any hasty purchases.

[MADGameR]

You only come out when there is news related to what you say. Yes we know that alot of the greatest games that are exclusive for the PS3 is also heading to the 360. I know that these companies want a raise in profits and want to sell alot. So its only natural that they make it multi-plat. They never cared about company loyalty. But after all this is the planet earth and nothing is perfect, everything does'nt go anybody's way. Whatever happens happens. But IF SONY wins this war, MS has no excuse and neither do the 360 fanboys. For all I know, right now Nintendo has the biggest chance of winning.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Why make games for a platform that costs double that of the 360 and then have a very small user base compared to the 360?

I doubt these game developers want to put themselves out of business, this generation most 3rd party games will be cross platform games and 1st party games or second party IP's that have been bought will be exclusives.

All in all its about making games, would you like to see say FF games in the future on just the PS3 with a huge price hike or Square Enix selling their company and haha Microsoft buying them or see FF games on both machines in future?

Its all about choice.

[techie]

Heraisis. *yawn*

[fenderputty]

FFXIII might be coming in some form but, it's not the game that the PS3 is getting. It's that possible MMO you're talking about.

The thing that bothers me most about this crap is that people like MART are doing nothing more then using this game and MGS4 as a political tool to rile up fanboys and bash the PS3.

[PS360WII]

When is Square Enix really going to be scared of the backlash from the West? Oh never gotchya.

If in 2008 they finally decided what they are going to do with FFXIII I guess then we can have this talk, but until then FFXIII is on PS3.

[rowdy 1]

Like they need to start selling more consoles in japan or maybe it's a japanese thing. Square does sale alot of Playstations.

[tonsoffun]

Square is a Japanese company - they will release the game to suit the Eastern market first. The west, in regards of their are secondary.

It is simple as this - they will release it on the PS3 for the eastern fans as it will reach more of a user base there and if they wish to reach the western market on a wide scale, they will port it to the 360.

But it not become a 360 exclusive in any way - it would alienate their home market far too much.

[Nicosia]

The thing was its was too far fetched that people direcly tought ''No FF for X360''. TheMart was right with the whole ''blank page'' thing. But the MGS thing i am still like in the dark, only time will tell.

The thing that also bother me about this articale was the exlusive to x360 thing, why?

[ericnellie]

The only people that would say they don't want FF13 to go multi-platform are fanboys. From a profitability stand point, companies need to go multi-platform in order to generate increased profits to cover high development costs. If I had to choose, I would get it for my 360 and not my PS3 (hey, I've got to get the achievements points:) Whatever the case, this will be an awesome game no doubt!!

[Cartesian3D]

@nice_cuppa I know u r honest ( becuz u said ur 360 was dead and blah bla... ) but plz read his word carefuly ...
@ the mart .. no word.. I know u LOVE FF now.. :P

"The series has always been single console and given the Xbox 360 sell through in Japan, it would be hard to put the next Final Fantasy instalment on the 360 only,"

Means in my opinion :
1- we allways concentrate on ONE CONSOLE
2- our fans are almost in Japan ( millions )
3- 360 didnt sell well in japan

all of reasons above means : PS3 exclusive

[Nicosia]

Lets take the line you quoted:
"The series has always been single console and given the Xbox 360 sell through in Japan, it would be hard to put the next Final Fantasy instalment on the 360 only,"

^^above your opinion about it.
mine: read the last line, it will be HARD to put the next ff as a exclusive on the x360. It will not be exlusive to the xbox360, but there might be a version for the x360.

[Cartesian3D]

but blank page for FF means at least 3 or 4 years waiting ...

and they make LR multi to attract WEST ppl .. FF is for japan .. just look at FF12 sales.. last time I heard : 4 million for japan 1 or 2 millions rest of the world.. if someone has new numbers tell us .. :)

but in my opinion Final fantasy projects are allways HUGE and SE want to make them perfect on certain platform.. and making One game perfect on 360 and PS3 is nearly impossible for them in 2 or 3 years..

anyway I think perhaps they want to make another title for multi like LR .. but FF , dont think so ..

[Nicosia]

I agree and disagree though. FF is huge with Jap. people... thats a fact :P. But the thing is, usually the FF has been created for the PS brand. But never actually has it been build ''with'' another system on the same time. SO there is no big proof there quality is subpar while being multi. LR will be out real first sight on how it has been built. The thing is with Japan = will get it exclusive. But for the American and Europe part, atm most x360 users are there.

[DreamSnach2]

"Square Enix faces a dilemma: put the next game on the 360 only and alienate Japanese fans, depart with tradition and make it multi-platform, or go with PS3 as an exclusive and deal with the backlash from the west.

So why not make it for both? its not that hard to think, my GOD

[HandShandy]

You just don't get it do you.

Developing games for multiple platforms especially the Xbox360 would further delay the game and end up with a dumbed down version for the PS3 because the Xbox360 disk space issue.

Mart. I really do wish you were on the Titanic when it sunk so you could experience a cold icey death. Stop saying: "The rats are leaving the sinking ship" fair enough when you say it a couple times but it's losing it's affect now. In fact it's further reinforcing the point that your a complete doofus.

How the hell did you get 3 bubbles anyway? Did you pay some people sign up on N4G and give you positive feedback?

I don't know where people are getting the idea that this will somehow come out on the Xbox360 - this article totally NEGATES that fact that it will and instead you still think it will.

I think you get so Horny to play all the PS3 games because you don't have any intresting ones of your own on your Wii or 360.

In foresight, if the unthinkable happens. Sony are at least working on new fresh franchises - I really think people overlook the greatness of upcoming first party and third party NEW PS3 titles.

[ericnellie]

In my opinion - you don't get it!
This is an easy fix; you do a timed exclusive for the 360 allowing ample development time for the PS3 version of the game and during the optimizing and polishing stage - the developers could start writing code for the 360 also easily making it possible to develop a PC version as well. From a business stand point-- no company wants to pass up consumers just for the hell of it. The only way anyone can stay in business is if revenues are greater than company expenses. With the PS3 user base being so low in comparison to other systems (due to it's failure to reach an equilibrium price point) it makes sense to me. I'm not a fanboy, just a gamer and I don't care what system(s) it comes out for I own all 3 - I'm just saying that "if I owned square, my products would be multi-platform with timed exclusives for both. If they don't go multi-platform it will be due to what is called Keiretsu. Keiretsu is a Japanese tradition where major companies build "corporate families" that forge semipermanent ties with suppliers, customers, and distributors. Although both companies (Sony and Square) are multi-nation - their roots are in Japan and that would be the only reason a company would be willing to pass up huge profits to remain on a single platform;)

[m000b1]

Heraisis.End of.

[crunkthug]

so now the bit**es r talking
before a week as the man said: blank page, every fu**in xbot said:
fu** ff13, im gonna buy me the last remenant
hahaahahahahhahahha
hahahah
now the game ff13 is cool
i swear: u all r bit**es that talk like bit**es

[Shadow Flare]

"Recent history says the mainstream Final Fantasy's are PlayStation material. Square-Enix was recorded saying that they wanted this generation to be more even. But since the ps3 seems to be the one lagging, it would make sense to give ps3 the best titles to help it along. PS3 gets the mainstream Final Fantasy's while 360 and Wii get the other Square-Enix projects. The blank-page remark doesn't need decrypting; its says what it means quite plainly. While PS3 and Wii are getting FF titles, there are no titles in the works at the moment for the 360. This doesn't mean that the 360 will never get an FF title, but its fairly plain that square-enix isn't looking too hard at 360 for the Final Fantasy series either. The 360 looks to be recieving other Square-Enix projects instead. It doesn't need to be said but like Konami with Metal Gear Solid, Square-Enix has always held a close affinity with PlayStation when it comes to Final Fantasy. And the way they are planning these games out, they are living true to what they said about helping the consoles become a more level playing field"

And Mart, get yourself all happy now, because as the days go on and you see no articles with the words 'FFXIII and MGS4 go multi-console', you're gonna have a mental breakdown. Do you want to know what "MGS4 on 360 is pure speculation" means? Its really plain and doesn't need your word twisting. It means; get ready cos this is gonna shock you,...people are speculating if MGS4 will go to 360. Don't have a seizure mart, because Kojima has stated a plenty that MGS4 is for the ps3, the game is designed for ps3, it requires a dual-layer bluray disc, 360 offers nothing that will improve the game, and in kojima's first MGS4 trailer, there was about 10 mins at the end which talked about how the cell is key to winning the console war. No frickin way! All im saying is, if MGS4 came to 360, konami's gonna use half the world's oil reserves to produce all the dvd's

[edit]

mart, where have you been living? In a chinese pipe? Sony's target for ps3 shipments in march was 6 million. They shipped 5.5 million in march.

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

Damn, so far off. I'll put it plain, konami and square-enix WANT their games to be ps3 exclusive. If for some reason they come to 360, its because they HAVE to for money reasons, not cos they want to. Why do you think you hear of so many games that were ps3 exclusive coming to 360? Cos they originally WANTED them to stay ps3 exclusive but for money reasons they had to go to 360 aswell. But Kojima is a very strong backer of playstation format. I think you'll find the only Metal Gear that has ever gone to xbox is MGS2: Substance. The extra missions game. And the only Final Fantasy to go to xbox was FF11, which as we know was a pretty poor game. Above anything, technically MGS4 is built for ps3 and would be ridiculous on 360. There is no need for MGS4 to come to 360 other then that it has a larger install base. But guess what, 360 launched a year earlier. So with Kojima and Konami's loyalty, the good chance of ps3 sales being good enough when MGS4 launches and sony reimbercing Konami if they aren't and MGS4 being technically ridiculous for the 360, you have the recipe for a ps3 exclusive.

'All your comments have been outdone by these many alinea above'

Mart if you want MGS4 and Final Fantasy XIII so bad, buy a PS3
Put up or shut up

[TheMART]

Indeed, the FIRST trailer was talking about the cell, because then also Konami wanted to believe SOny's predictions on PS3 sales of 6 million by March this year. They're just over 3 million now...

Things have changed.

Kojima is paid by Konami. Konami gets payed by the number of copies a game sells. Konami is 3rd party. They don't get money for exclusive. Konami has shareholders. Shareholders want profits to be maximum.

All your comments have been outdone by this one alinea above.

[wolfgang]

The Mart : You can't use current ps3 sales numbers to justify MGS4 360 rumors as MGS4 is only due in 2008, when the console will have a larger install base (more appropriate for exclusives).

[San anto]

shipments not sales =] like shadow flare said they were close to the target mark

@ wolfgang, has ny1 actually confirmed mgs4 for 2008 because kojimas official site states that its due 2007

[wolfgang]

My bad, I was sure 2008 was official.

[kewlkat007]

to keep the series or at least the next-installment on the PS BRAND. I only say this because Square is probably looking at where the "strongest Market of Jrpg's supporters are, and well you guessed it, it's JAPAN folks.

A. While the PS3 may not be selling all that great, as expected there, there is still a lot of time for Square to make up their minds whether it will be ported to the Xbox 360 or not after the fact. Hey I accept their decision. A decision thats not fully set in stone because of all of these factors:

B. Installment-Base for PS3 and Xbox360, Where will it be after FF13? We know where we stand currently.

-PS3- about 3.5+ million
-Xbox360-about 10+ million

C. If MS offers some cash, well in a business sense and the 360 user-base climbs to about 15+ million, I think we will see a port(my opinion, disagree if you want). With the games coming out for the Xbox360 and all the second renditions, with new IP's as well, you can't deny the User-Base will not stop growing. Plus there seems to be more RPG's coming out on the 360 for that Japanese Market. If LO does well, the Japanese might see a good enough reason to buy the console. Hey who knows.

D. I can tell you the PS3 user-base will grow also but since they are lagging behind, I can't say by how much, especially with their price. I'll give PS3 a cool 8+Million by then.(with a reasonable price-cut).

E. Anyhow, I think, thats what it will take for FF13 to be ported, whenever that may be. We'll have to wait till the next E3 which gives us a full year for user-base to grow and grow they both will. Either way, if FF13 is good as it looks, I might have a PS3 by that time anyhow, with a price-cut that is. I bought the PS2 after 2 years so, I have no problems waiting for the "sweetspot" price point of $350 and below.

[BIadestarX]

Wow, it's relatively quiet in here concidering how much Sony fanboys have being flaming xbox 360 fans at the idea of final fantasy coming to the 360.

It's obvious that square can't rely on the success of the Playstation 3 anymore for them to succeed. They need to cover their @$$es in case the PS3 is not as successful as the PS2 was. Sony obviously have a different agenda and even if the PS3 fails they will make a heck of a lot of money since it help blu-ray become the dominant format. Now where does that leave square and mr. kojima? I don't undertand the idea that Final fantasy can only sell in Japan. it's true that the PS3 installbase in japan is like 2 times bigger than the 360... but many people would buy Metal Gear and Final fantasy in the US or europe where the 360 have a larger installbase.

Why shouldn't square improve their odds to succeed by making their games cross platform? Even if Sony pays for the exclusivity... it does not mean they will not hurt themselves by not taking advantage of creating a new fanbase within the xbox 360 installbase... that eventhough Sony fans do not consider is possible can become the dominant console during this gen or the next.

The fact that square clarified their position on Final Fantasy for 360 it's prove that though this game may never come to the 360; they are take seriously the fact that the 360 can't be ignored as many developers did with the original xbox.

[TruthHurts]

anymore cause they know its not gonna happen.

off topic: its funny how bad TheMart wants MGS and FF13.

[toughNAME]

....this didnt clarify sh!t!

[sumfood4u]

Remanet is going on both 360 an ps3 same time Launch! 360= blank page. SE= dilemma so basically the next Final Fantasy an i'm thinking it's MMORPG may be on both systems! that's just my opinion!

[derek]

If you ignore the tacked on analysis, this confirms there are no plans as of now for FF on the 360. So the "blank page" statement was exactly correct. Sure maybe in the unknown future there will be some FF game on the 360 in one form or another but as of now Sony gets theirs and so does Nintendo. Pretty much confirms that XIII and XIII vrs will stay exclusive to the PS3 all other talk is wishful thinking.

[Hanseo]

Can Someone Show me where it said it go on to 360

[bootsielon]

Anyone saying that it saves development costs to make it multiplatform is an idiot. Since both titles are probably developed with Blu-ray, HDD, Cell, RSX and segreggated memory in mind, it'll be very expensive to port it. They'll pretty much have to re-do the game, regardless of how supposedly "easy" it is to develop for 360.

1. They're gonna have to dumb the game down. It costs developer time, which is money.
2. They're gonna have to rewrite code, which is time and again money.
3. They're gonna have to test multiple discs on the game (which is way more expensive than testing a single disc game), if that is even possible, if not they're gonna have to delete content (dual layer blu-ray anyone).

The final product? 10 discs (nearing almost 90 gigs) due to the fact that they have to repeat information on many discs (from an originally 50 gig game), even though they deleted some of the original content that needed to be streamed directly from the HDD.

Since Square makes the majority of its revenue in japan, not only because of the millions of game sales, but also because they sell their games with a premium over there. the equivalent of $90, something impossible to do in America or Europe, so, since Xbox 360 is a major failure in Japan, Xbox 360 is screwed, no Final Fantasy for you, lil' Xbots. But don't worry, at least you have Sakaguchi's leftovers.

[Leathersoup]

...traditions usually stand in the way of progress. To keep themselves from creating a multiplatform game would be easier for the development team but it can also stunt creativity and the advancements that may appear out of diversifying their abilities.

[Hanseo]

Xbox fanboys Show me where it says it will to go the 360

[the_bebop]

This article dose not clear up the Issue of wether FFXIII or FFVSXIII will come to the 360.

I beleive though FFXIII and FFVSXIII will stay excusive to playstation due to the fact that histroically with Final fantasy they tend to stick the main series of it to one console, unless they do some sort of spin off like FFXII Reinvent Wings for the DS. If they were not happy with the PS3 they would have instead created it for the 360.

If both these games do go multiplatform I can garenty you it will end up being an inferior version due to the fact that these games are being develop to utilise the PS3 specs specifically and not the 360.

I do think that FFVSXIII will definatly stay exclusive to the PS3 because it definetly wont be released in Japan to atleast 2009 when there will be alot more PS3 in the hand of consumers so there would be no need for It to go Multiplatform.

If any thing I do think Final Fantasy XIII Heraisis could end up on the 360 since they have not said if this is a PS3 exclusive.

[kevin]

what does it matter the 180 will be a laughing stock if it comes to The 180, the white engine is optimised for supercomputer rendering, that is why realtime in the game looks like a movie, and the characters are said to look like real people, if this game comes to the 180 the realtime for 180 will look like the transition from final fantasy 10 ingame(180), compared to ps3 realtime(cutscene for final fantasy 10). Your 180 will be a laughing stock if this game is ported, good luck getting this or metal gear, that will look like paper mario, for the 180, if it came to 180 there would also be about a good amount of disks to, just like the 12 disks for metal gear that 180 will require, but if that is the length that microsoft will take to struggle to get ps3 exclusives, because their own are sorry, well that is them, but what un-sportsman-like conduct that will be, and when microsoft looses this time with all the bribery, why not just not make another gamming machine microsoft?And why not just give up in the gamming industry, after all that work of using ps3 orinals against them you still lost? What a shame you are microsoft, outta all these games that microsoft bought into that were originally supposed to be on playstation gamming machines before, i surely believed that you could put up a good fight this time, and the trash talk is astounding, talking about ps3 sales being bad when infact the 180 is been out for what 20 months now, and the ps3 about 7 months, you have to be blind not to see the difference in your sales, the funny thing is not only were you launched that late, but you also launched all alone, no other next gen gamming machine was released yet, and also the fact that we are selling better than your 180 at this time last year, and the sad thing is that one of your heavy bombs have already been dropped, and that was gears of war, and dont try to bring wii into it, they may have launched beside ps3, but the price difference is undeniable, and many of you act as if your box was ps3 price, that your box would sell as good or better, i assure you the 9 million some 180s that have been sold, would be drastically lower if 500 or 600 dollars, but many of you dont think of that, and the sad thing is that this gen is going to shift so much faster than you believe, sony has a plan that is going to hit you and you arent even going to know what happened, and alot has to do with graphics, and that is comming e3, but you wont see it comming, to bad for you

[wolfgang]

I would love to see FF come to the 360 (I want rumble in this game instead of six-axis support), but lets face it, after all these rumors there is no official words about FF coming to the 360.

They might alienate western gamers, but Square isn't bringing it to the 360.

[Hanseo]

Okay i guess no Xbox fanboy can show me where it says FF will go on 360 so FF 13 and FF vs 13 are only for PS3 YAY

[PlayStation360]

they can't show you cause it doesn't say, they are just "speculating" and try to spin words. As for all this talk of FFXIII going to the 360, it may happen. I do agree with marty boy that "the blank page" can mean ANYTHING. BUT....I don't see FFXIII and FFvsXIII - the main games - going to the 360. I can see a spin-off going though. Maybe this MMORPG version i'm always hearing about. But thats still yet to be seen. So in my humble opinion it may go like this. Please feel free to disagree, but please reply.

* FFXIII (side story) goes to the 360 in mid to late 2008.
* Ninja Gaiden 2 is timed exclusive to the 360, goes to the PS3 WAYYYYY later on IF NGsigma sells well.
* MGS4 stays exclusive to the PS3.

[tehcellownu]

so the 360 might get a final fantasy in 2009 . lol..im fine with that..but i know for sure it isnt final fantasy viii or versus..maye a different one..side story..

[kamakazi]

wow those of you hoping against hope.......its not happening. ff xiii and versus are PS3 exclusives, the 360 will get some spin off or mmorpg version. so keep on praying to the game gods for that one :)

[Bhai]

...we all know its production would be restricted. When FF12 on PS2 is
huge and fills around 8GB, how can the FF-13 giant be on the same
space. Yes, Oblivion or GTA games are all about revisiting the same
pre-defined places and even then GTA-devs says 360 makes GTA-IV
restricted...so how can a glorious and ever-expanding FF-game be
next-gen and on 8GB at the same time ?

I fear Silent Hill 5 devs may not restrict their production in order
to make it also for a transition technology console that is 360
instead of being exclusive to true next-gen machine that is the PS3.

[calderra]

OH. MY. GOD.
You're absolutely right.

We might just see *gasp*
A FINAL FANTASY GAME TAKING UP MORE THAN ONE DISC!
DUN-DUN-DDDUUNNNN!!!!

Come on. Nobody ever had a problem with it before. What would be the problem now?

[WilliamRLBaker]

it might come on multiple discs? why? because the game world in final fantasy is big?...nope

Because the story is great? nope

Then why? oh I know because of the useless amount usually about 600 hours of HD CG that square all ways uses, even on stuff like talking.

Here is a scene in a final fantasy that could be done ingame engine but instead if done is marvelous HD CGI.

Main character:*walks upto booth* how much is that sword?
Boot operator: Oh its 3 gil....
Main character: oh just wanted to know *walks away*

[gano]

want a japanese game well you know the rest, until then
u greedy americans play what u have and be happy for what u have
stop bs stealing.

[fenderputty]

"Japan's Nikkei BP quoted the executive producer as saying, "As for Final Fantasy on the Xbox 360, it's currently a completely blank page." Some reports interpreted this to mean that the series will never again appear on Microsoft's next-gen console.

However, a spokesperson for Square Enix told GamesIndustry.biz, "Hashimoto-san was talking about the current situation" - which would suggest his comments shouldn't be interpreted as forward-looking. "

So to me this means that FFXIII will not be on the 360 but don't worry that doesn't mean other FF's won't come to the 360. The current situation however does not see FF on the 360.

[CrazzyMan]

there about 24 mln. xbox sold, more then x360, so where are the games?
and why then FFXIII or MGS4 now must came to x360? Because of money? But Konami and Square could make money on releasing MGS3 and FFXII to xbox, so why you people think, those 2 games(MGS4/FFXIII) will come to x360?

P.S. COULD ANYONE NAME SOME PS3 PORTS, WHICH RUNS ON X360? =))

[zonetrooper5]

I'm not sure to be honest, FF13 and MGS4 can go to the Xbox 360 if they want to. Maybe the PS3 has both of these games as a timed exculsive, however, we must wait until E3 to see if MS annouces MGS4 and FF13 to be coming out on the Xbox 360. For now they are Sony exculsives as you will.

[Uganda64]

1. why FFXII and MGS3 didn`t come to xbox ?
there about 24 mln. xbox sold, more then x360, so where are the games?
and why then FFXIII or MGS4 now must came to x360? Because of money? But Konami and Square could make money on releasing MGS3 and FFXII to xbox, so why you people think, those 2 games(MGS4/FFXIII) will come to x360?
-Crazzyman
Correct.
They could've made more money by porting those, but they did not. Kojima because he hates ports and has full control over all his titles (not Konami - some people miss this point) and Square because they made enough money and always do exclusive FFs. They'll definitely make enough profit on MGS4 and FFXIII - the last two giant 3rd party exclusives in existence, and they're both for PS3.

2. So to me this means that FFXIII will not be on the 360 but don't worry that doesn't mean other FF's won't come to the 360. The current situation however does not see FF on the 360.
-Fenderputty
Correct, most likely 360will get spin-offs like Wii is getting in the future.

One IMPORTANT thing to remember is that 360 can't even handle these games. So porting is out of the question anyway. Unless they choose to release the 20 DVD box set (they have to repeat data) with gimped everything and MISSING features (lol @ that rumour which says MGS4 will have added features for the imaginary 360 port) - so they'll have to be built ground up and not ported, meaning they'll cost more than they could ever make since they'll be released much later when the game is comparable to games released years ago.
People take a lot of sh** about money this and money that(MART) - this is how the situation would look ^^^. The 'port' would lose them millions!

[drtysouf21]

argument just going to wait for an official announcement.

[WilliamRLBaker]

cause of sell throught in japan? if thats the basis why dont they move all future final fantasies to the wii? since the ps3 is geting smashed to death by that system in japan?

Simply put no matter what the numbers are at the 360 is the highest selling world wide so far, and nothing changes that, what he means is this.

"" we being square enix original both of us being the scum sucking companies that think only the japanese can understand our games, and the japanese are the only ones capable of coping with the dificulty of them, feel that puting our games on an american made system would be a bad decision because we all know that americans are fat and stupid...""

Thats about the jist of what hes trying to say in not so many words, Face it japan isn't important when it comes to video games any more, America was the first to popularize them, and then the crash of the 80's happend then japan came in and do what they all ways do...they dont innovate they take tech then reproduce it for pennies on the dollar....

SE could easily release the final fantasy games on the 360 without any problems and see major profit in it, Because america and europe make up a vastly bigger market then japan ever did, But SE has to be nationalistic like every other company in japan, and shows us thats why the economy stinks there, suicide rates are higher then they have ever been, and why japan has shrunk in terms of a technological leader.

If they'd stop being so nationalistic (racist) and start releaseing more types of games over here, on more then just japanese home systems, then they'd see alot more profit then they do now.

Simply put americans and europeans love rpgs, the numbers show this in the fact more copies of ff7-12 were sold here and in europe then in japan, even though the japanese are pretty much rpg whores and will by any thing rpg, HEY HEY HEY look at the new RPG drink, its got 5000 calories per sip....and then that sells in the millions because the japanese actually buy that crap.