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PS3 v3.15 Transfer Utility Will Not Move Protected Game Saves

Loot Ninja writes:

"Just when you thought it was safe to get a new PS3… A few months back, I bought a new PS3 to replace my launch console. If you haven't read about how transferring all my data went down, go take a look in this direction. The big complaint I had surround protected game saves and the inability to transfer them to my new PS3. I lost all of my progress in Killzone 2, Street Fighter IV, Fat Princess and others. Fast forward to yesterday and the announcement of the Transfer Utility included in firmware v3.15. Everyone thought the world had righted itself. Wrong. According to Sony Europe's James Thorpe, you still can't transfer protected game saves with the new system."

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PirateThom5291d ago

These copy protected saves are becoming a problem.

As I've noted, Premium PSN should have a storage facility for all your game saves, linked to your PSN ID with the ability to synch when you need to, so even if you change console or it dies or something, your saves are intact.

Pennywise5291d ago

Most of the games with protected saves are the online games. I guess they are also trying to stop any trophy cheaters.

This is a problem. I want to upgrade my HDD.... How does the non-transferable saves work with that type of situation? Any suggestions?

Mr_Bun5291d ago (Edited 5291d ago )

I've read that if you backup your PS3 to an external drive, it will restore everything exactly as it was assuming you are restoring to the same PS3 (even though it is a different drive)

It is only if you are moving to a different PS3 that you lose the protected ones

Pennywise5291d ago

Bun, so I guess that I would need to buy my new HDD for the PS3 ($100), plus an external HDD just to make it happen?

Solans Scott5291d ago

Hopefully Sony has it in the works.

El_Colombiano5291d ago

No, doing a full back up will NOT back up protected saved games. I lost 40 hours in Demons Souls because of it.

Genesis55291d ago (Edited 5291d ago )

Yeah I hate those protected saves. If I am playing a game on my slim in the bedroom I can't even take the game save to my 60 gig in the living room. It's very annoying I wish this could be fixed.

edgeofblade5291d ago (Edited 5291d ago )

What I've been waiting for is local-network save sharing. If you have a PS3 or 360, they should share saves freely with a second console in the local network. Over most networks, the cost of transferring one game save is minimal.

Where this would be REALLY nice is sharing Xbox Live accounts, instead of using the god awful memory units to move it around from box to box.

@PirateThom: I also like your idea, but why do we have to manually sync? Why can't we just have perpetual access to the space over the network?

gamingisnotacrime5291d ago

I upgraded my HD by using the back up function with a external hard drive and everything was transfered to my new HD.

Ju5291d ago (Edited 5291d ago )

Man, KZ2, Elite, 1/3rd of Radec killed (last level, 3 checkpoints, took me forever to beat one) and then I had to switch my machine. Have yet to do the campaign again in Elite. hmpf.

Manual sync is fine, if that keeps sync time low (but better would be a automatic "replication server" - both ways).

Blaze9295291d ago

Yeah I remember when I did the transfer to my new HDD, Killzone 2 did not copy over. I was piiiiiiiiissed. Luckily, I already beat it but still.

cyborg69715291d ago

How do you know if they're protected. I have batman aa and it's the only onexi have a platinum for.

aftrdark215291d ago

Can be backed up via system restore and restored back to the same system they were on. But you can't restore them to a new system. I tried with my new slim from my old 20gb and i lost my demon souls save. Luckily I had just started playing it. But still that sucks. Hopefully they will resolve it.

decimalator5291d ago

No, you can backup protected game saves but you can only restore them to the SAME PS3. The problem that people are having is you can't restore them onto a different PS3, the copy protection ties them down to the PS3 not your PSN ID.

You would think that this system should also transfer protected saves, otherwise what is the point? I guess it saves you the intermediate step of backing up to another HDD, you can just transfer directly from one PS3 to another.

This is my only real peeve with the PS3, I was on the final battle in KZ2 on the hardest difficulty and about to get my platinum when I got a YLOD and my old 60GB PS3 died. I still can't bring myself to grind back through the game to finish it, it still annoys me.

randomwiz5291d ago

Back up your console, and the saves and everything are still there.

duplissi5291d ago

mr bun is correct, my killzone saves were transfered when i bought my 500 gig drive

HammockGames5291d ago (Edited 5291d ago )

I hope they fix this soon. It nearly bit me in the arse big time.

@ Ju and company above, I feel your pain with regard to KZ2 on Elite.

My 60 gig launch model got the YLOD a few months back. Luckily, I had recently backed everything up on an external HDD and transferred this to my new PS3. I was pretty disappointed to find that certain saves wouldn't transfer - particularly since I was at Radec on Elite in KZ2 and the final section of World at War on Veteran (torture enough to get to either of those, IMHO) before my launch model died.

Fortunately, I did the solder reflow trick on my 60 gig and she's been working fine ever since - at least long enough to finish those two games without having to replay some of the most tortuous levels.

Regardless, it's reasons like this that they really need to fix the game save thing. If they can link trophies to different PS3's via the user account they should be able to do the same thing with game saves.

Edit: You guys are right that you can transfer data back to the SAME PS3 without problems. I had no issues when upgrading my HDD to 500 GB in the past. The issue is really with transferring to a different PS3.

trancefreak5291d ago

@ blaze i lost killzone 2 data also was bummed so i went out on a late killzone 2 binge to beat it again. it suks to loose that game save because of the time and effort put into the game.

There needs to be a better way to save your own game and it really shouldn't be a problem if you back your own data to transfer it to another hdd when you deactivate the system imo.

LiquifiedArt5291d ago

.........It goes back onto the SAME PS3 MACHINE.

Harddrives do not matter. The machine itself has a signature. So say you send it in to SONY and they send you refurb (diff machine), your out of luck. Your copy-protected saves are all lost ala... SFIV, KZ2, Demons Souls and many more. I started a list on the playstation forums.

prodg525291d ago

can be transfered. it says it in the update.

Real Gambler5290d ago (Edited 5290d ago )

Copy-protected saves will work with PS3 Data Transfer Utility

http://www.examiner.com/exa...

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Kratos195291d ago

Sony, you retards! Forget trophy cheaters, just let people back their damn saves up.

Redempteur5291d ago

Trophy are here for a reason ..allowing cheats will made it as useless as the achievement system ..

i don't want that ..

fortunatly i'm one of the guys who play ONE game up to finish and don't play it again ... so everything is fine ...

LastDays5291d ago

God forbid your system breaks. When my PS3 broke I only needed one more trophy(finding one last treasure) for uncharted 1's platinum. Got it back and had to find all the treasures over again just to get to where I was so I said forget it. If people wanna exploit the trophy system who the hell cares, that's not nearly as important as backing up your saves. Crap like this almost makes me miss memory cards....almost

Baka-akaB5291d ago

i'd sacrifice the trophy system any day over the ability to frickin transfer saves for fighting games . And it's not like it still prevented cheaters on mw1 and MW2 .

At least the latest fighting games seems to forget the stupid unlock character system .

greyishfox5291d ago

Remember the good old days where you could put your save files on a disk, bring them over to your friends house, and show them where you are in the game? Why kill that?
If it's trophy/achievement cheaters then who cares? I don't rate any gamer to their achievements or trophies. Gamerpoints or anything like that. I don't care.

drunkpandas5291d ago

If I couldn't have traveled with game saves, my PS1/PS2 days would have been severely hindered. I remember in high school and college taking my Gran Turismo or GTA game saves on my memory cards to friends' places and picking up where I had left off (and them doing the same).

Frulond5291d ago

just like SoulCalibur IV. don't know which other games do this but, you can copy your SCIV but if you try use it in a different account you'll simply wont be able to do so. that's much better than copyrighted saves IMO.

Redempteur5291d ago

unless that this method is easy to bypass by cheaters

( saves opened in a HEx editor show everything sadly )

Ares84PS35291d ago

I mean there is no way to cheat for trophies because even though you use someone elses save you need to earn to trophy...only unlocks than and not when you load up a save. So I don't see the point of these protected saved data to be honest. It is a major problem though. For me....I have more than a 100hours in Demon's Souls and I got two PS3's. One in the living room one in the bedroom and I can't take my saved file to the bedroom because it's "protected". There is absolutely no point in these protected saves.

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How Valve has treated Team Fortress 2 is a disgrace, and its community deserves better

17 years on from release and 5 years into a botting epidemic, Team Fortress 2 is on its knees, and it's high time Valve stepped in to fix it.

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Valve can do no wrong, remember?

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Forget Elder Scrolls 6, Skyrim Can Easily Be Made Into A Next-Gen Game

ScreenRant's Stephen Tang writes, "The Elder Scrolls 6 won't be releasing for a while, and in the meantime, the modding community has been making Skyrim into a next-gen game."

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GhostScholar1d 11h ago

That’s just laughable to me. I think they’ve squeezed all they can out of an 12 year old game

mastershredder1d 6h ago

"Easily" because they see mods, says the gamer. To heck with licensing, terms agreements conditions, etc. all you need to do is belive in mods. Yeah, so real superficial BS yo.

CrimsonWing6920h ago

Do people not want to play a new game? Like, I’d rather see 6 than just a prettier version of a game we’ve been playing since the 360/PS3 gen…

Popsicle13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Yes please. Did pretty much everything there was to do in this game. Took a very long time and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Skyrim is one of my all-time favorites, but I would prefer a new experience.

anast17h ago

They might as well. So far, it looks like ES6 will be mostly developed by AI.

Smellsforfree13h ago

I don't want a next-gen version of a game I've already played to death. Skyrim was a great game, but I'm over it.

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The Status of Every PlayStation Franchise

Sony owns a fair few iconic franchises - many dating right back to the original PlayStation. But while we’re pretty familiar with the likes of ongoing series such as God of War, Horizon, and Gran Turismo, there are plenty of PlayStation franchises that haven’t seen the light of day in a long time. So in this video, we’re going to be taking a look at the status of PlayStation’s many IPs, and checking in on when we last heard from them.

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Skuletor1d 22h ago

A 20+ minute video? Just include the written list in the article.

DarXyde1d 17h ago

Status in one word:

Underutilized.

The end.

anast1d 17h ago

Which ones should they utilize more?

BehindTheRows1d 16h ago

Indeed. We hear this “underutilized” talk as if every old franchise should have a comeback or reboot.

I_am_Batman1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

When new IPs start looking like Concord, you can't blame people for wanting another Resistance or Killzone instead.

anast1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

J&D and Resistance are good ones. As much as I love these, though, I'm not sure they would payoff without an enormous marketing push. Younger gamers today do not have taste and the older gamers that would appreciate these might not be enough. But yeah, I would day 1 Resistance.

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Hotpot1d 14h ago

Well that’s just the consequence of consistently producing new IPs isn’t it. Not all studios can be or want to be like polyphony digital who made gran turismo all the time.

Abear211d 16h ago

Here lies The Infamous Series; once a shining beacon of free flying, lighting bolt sniping, and wire riding amazing gameplay, it has been laid to rest and be forgotten for what seems like forever despite being loved by millions. Plot next to Wipeout across from NBA Jam.

Lightning771d 12h ago

Still baffling they cancelled Twisted Metal, Factions 2 and Spider-Man Multiverse LS game but thought Concord looked good enough.

Chocoburger1d 12h ago

Ape Escape, Parappa / Lammy, Gravity Rush, good times. Always hoping for them to make a return, or at least similar type games, such as the newly-announced Astro Bot, but one game isn't enough. Bring back the joyfulness of the 90's era of gaming.

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