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PS3 v3.15 Transfer Utility Will Not Move Protected Game Saves

Loot Ninja writes:

"Just when you thought it was safe to get a new PS3… A few months back, I bought a new PS3 to replace my launch console. If you haven't read about how transferring all my data went down, go take a look in this direction. The big complaint I had surround protected game saves and the inability to transfer them to my new PS3. I lost all of my progress in Killzone 2, Street Fighter IV, Fat Princess and others. Fast forward to yesterday and the announcement of the Transfer Utility included in firmware v3.15. Everyone thought the world had righted itself. Wrong. According to Sony Europe's James Thorpe, you still can't transfer protected game saves with the new system."

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PirateThom5266d ago

These copy protected saves are becoming a problem.

As I've noted, Premium PSN should have a storage facility for all your game saves, linked to your PSN ID with the ability to synch when you need to, so even if you change console or it dies or something, your saves are intact.

Pennywise5266d ago

Most of the games with protected saves are the online games. I guess they are also trying to stop any trophy cheaters.

This is a problem. I want to upgrade my HDD.... How does the non-transferable saves work with that type of situation? Any suggestions?

Mr_Bun5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

I've read that if you backup your PS3 to an external drive, it will restore everything exactly as it was assuming you are restoring to the same PS3 (even though it is a different drive)

It is only if you are moving to a different PS3 that you lose the protected ones

Pennywise5266d ago

Bun, so I guess that I would need to buy my new HDD for the PS3 ($100), plus an external HDD just to make it happen?

Solans Scott5266d ago

Hopefully Sony has it in the works.

El_Colombiano5266d ago

No, doing a full back up will NOT back up protected saved games. I lost 40 hours in Demons Souls because of it.

Genesis55266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Yeah I hate those protected saves. If I am playing a game on my slim in the bedroom I can't even take the game save to my 60 gig in the living room. It's very annoying I wish this could be fixed.

edgeofblade5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

What I've been waiting for is local-network save sharing. If you have a PS3 or 360, they should share saves freely with a second console in the local network. Over most networks, the cost of transferring one game save is minimal.

Where this would be REALLY nice is sharing Xbox Live accounts, instead of using the god awful memory units to move it around from box to box.

@PirateThom: I also like your idea, but why do we have to manually sync? Why can't we just have perpetual access to the space over the network?

gamingisnotacrime5266d ago

I upgraded my HD by using the back up function with a external hard drive and everything was transfered to my new HD.

Ju5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Man, KZ2, Elite, 1/3rd of Radec killed (last level, 3 checkpoints, took me forever to beat one) and then I had to switch my machine. Have yet to do the campaign again in Elite. hmpf.

Manual sync is fine, if that keeps sync time low (but better would be a automatic "replication server" - both ways).

Blaze9295266d ago

Yeah I remember when I did the transfer to my new HDD, Killzone 2 did not copy over. I was piiiiiiiiissed. Luckily, I already beat it but still.

cyborg69715266d ago

How do you know if they're protected. I have batman aa and it's the only onexi have a platinum for.

aftrdark215266d ago

Can be backed up via system restore and restored back to the same system they were on. But you can't restore them to a new system. I tried with my new slim from my old 20gb and i lost my demon souls save. Luckily I had just started playing it. But still that sucks. Hopefully they will resolve it.

decimalator5266d ago

No, you can backup protected game saves but you can only restore them to the SAME PS3. The problem that people are having is you can't restore them onto a different PS3, the copy protection ties them down to the PS3 not your PSN ID.

You would think that this system should also transfer protected saves, otherwise what is the point? I guess it saves you the intermediate step of backing up to another HDD, you can just transfer directly from one PS3 to another.

This is my only real peeve with the PS3, I was on the final battle in KZ2 on the hardest difficulty and about to get my platinum when I got a YLOD and my old 60GB PS3 died. I still can't bring myself to grind back through the game to finish it, it still annoys me.

randomwiz5266d ago

Back up your console, and the saves and everything are still there.

duplissi5266d ago

mr bun is correct, my killzone saves were transfered when i bought my 500 gig drive

HammockGames5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

I hope they fix this soon. It nearly bit me in the arse big time.

@ Ju and company above, I feel your pain with regard to KZ2 on Elite.

My 60 gig launch model got the YLOD a few months back. Luckily, I had recently backed everything up on an external HDD and transferred this to my new PS3. I was pretty disappointed to find that certain saves wouldn't transfer - particularly since I was at Radec on Elite in KZ2 and the final section of World at War on Veteran (torture enough to get to either of those, IMHO) before my launch model died.

Fortunately, I did the solder reflow trick on my 60 gig and she's been working fine ever since - at least long enough to finish those two games without having to replay some of the most tortuous levels.

Regardless, it's reasons like this that they really need to fix the game save thing. If they can link trophies to different PS3's via the user account they should be able to do the same thing with game saves.

Edit: You guys are right that you can transfer data back to the SAME PS3 without problems. I had no issues when upgrading my HDD to 500 GB in the past. The issue is really with transferring to a different PS3.

trancefreak5266d ago

@ blaze i lost killzone 2 data also was bummed so i went out on a late killzone 2 binge to beat it again. it suks to loose that game save because of the time and effort put into the game.

There needs to be a better way to save your own game and it really shouldn't be a problem if you back your own data to transfer it to another hdd when you deactivate the system imo.

LiquifiedArt5266d ago

.........It goes back onto the SAME PS3 MACHINE.

Harddrives do not matter. The machine itself has a signature. So say you send it in to SONY and they send you refurb (diff machine), your out of luck. Your copy-protected saves are all lost ala... SFIV, KZ2, Demons Souls and many more. I started a list on the playstation forums.

prodg525266d ago

can be transfered. it says it in the update.

Real Gambler5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Copy-protected saves will work with PS3 Data Transfer Utility

http://www.examiner.com/exa...

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Kratos195266d ago

Sony, you retards! Forget trophy cheaters, just let people back their damn saves up.

Redempteur5266d ago

Trophy are here for a reason ..allowing cheats will made it as useless as the achievement system ..

i don't want that ..

fortunatly i'm one of the guys who play ONE game up to finish and don't play it again ... so everything is fine ...

LastDays5266d ago

God forbid your system breaks. When my PS3 broke I only needed one more trophy(finding one last treasure) for uncharted 1's platinum. Got it back and had to find all the treasures over again just to get to where I was so I said forget it. If people wanna exploit the trophy system who the hell cares, that's not nearly as important as backing up your saves. Crap like this almost makes me miss memory cards....almost

Baka-akaB5266d ago

i'd sacrifice the trophy system any day over the ability to frickin transfer saves for fighting games . And it's not like it still prevented cheaters on mw1 and MW2 .

At least the latest fighting games seems to forget the stupid unlock character system .

greyishfox5266d ago

Remember the good old days where you could put your save files on a disk, bring them over to your friends house, and show them where you are in the game? Why kill that?
If it's trophy/achievement cheaters then who cares? I don't rate any gamer to their achievements or trophies. Gamerpoints or anything like that. I don't care.

drunkpandas5266d ago

If I couldn't have traveled with game saves, my PS1/PS2 days would have been severely hindered. I remember in high school and college taking my Gran Turismo or GTA game saves on my memory cards to friends' places and picking up where I had left off (and them doing the same).

Frulond5266d ago

just like SoulCalibur IV. don't know which other games do this but, you can copy your SCIV but if you try use it in a different account you'll simply wont be able to do so. that's much better than copyrighted saves IMO.

Redempteur5266d ago

unless that this method is easy to bypass by cheaters

( saves opened in a HEx editor show everything sadly )

Ares84PS35266d ago

I mean there is no way to cheat for trophies because even though you use someone elses save you need to earn to trophy...only unlocks than and not when you load up a save. So I don't see the point of these protected saved data to be honest. It is a major problem though. For me....I have more than a 100hours in Demon's Souls and I got two PS3's. One in the living room one in the bedroom and I can't take my saved file to the bedroom because it's "protected". There is absolutely no point in these protected saves.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow1d 8h ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo18212h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie3h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

OtterX15h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Tody_za15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno14h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno12h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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Interview on Fallout 4 with the Actor for Nick Valentine, Codsworth & Mr Handy (Stephen Russell)

Interview with Stephen Russell, Actor for (Nick Valentine, Codsworth, My Handy) in Fallout 4 which is a vast open world role playing game set in the apocalyptic wastes of Boston, the Commonwealth. The career goes further with other Bethesda games from Starfield to Prey to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

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Rocksmith+ Comes To PS And Steam In June

This looks like a great way to play.
Rocksmith+, the award winning music-learning app that teaches you guitar and piano with thousands of hit songs, is coming to PlayStation and Steam on June 6, and is available to wishlist now on both platforms.