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Molyneux: Fable Was 'Over-Hyped'

NowGamer: Peter Molyneux, creative director at Microsoft Game Studio has looked back at his career, experiences and games in an exclusive in-depth interview

Speaking candidly with Retro Gamer magazine the industry legend, and designer of such games as Theme Park, Fable and Black and White discussed the criticism levelled at some of his past titles. "Fable was another one of those games which people were very excited about, and it was another which was a little over-hyped to be honest with you," Molyneux said.

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GWAVE5273d ago

Yes, it was overhyped. By YOU, Pete mah boi.

Just like Fable II was overhyped. By YOU!

TheHater5273d ago

My ass. That dog AI was stupid as hell. I end up killing the dog because it was so useless.

HDgamer5273d ago

Peta is coming for you THE HATER!

blackpanther255273d ago

this dude is so ridiculous....I don't ever get hyped up for any of his games anymore. He is so full of it....

Shoko5273d ago

...by its own creator! Fable 2 was one of the biggest disappointments ever. The game had to many glitches and bugs. Several glitches stopped you from completing the game! Like having spouses disappear, finishing a quest and the person that assigned the quest disappears, and many more problems. It was a mess.

Pennywise5273d ago

It feels like he is about to start the Fable 3 hype train all over... Pete, just stick with playing with Milo for a while.

ApocalypseShadow5273d ago (Edited 5273d ago )

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

excellent comment gwave.call it like you see it.

quote from mid way in the video:

**science fiction writers,film makers...they haven't been able to imagine what whe're able to do today.....**

i must have missed things like max headrum and films like tron.or the star trek holodec.yup,they totally missed it.

StanLee5273d ago

The irony is, he's the one who usually overhypes his titles. I love Black and White and I love Fable but Peter really can be a little, a lot, overzealous.

Megaton5273d ago (Edited 5273d ago )

I really hate this guy. He's the only one overhyping the things he creates. He boasts an ocean of new and revolutionary things in his games, and then delivers a puddle. Can't trust a word he says.

Serial_EDX5273d ago

It may be glitchy as hell, But his games are revolutionary. You know something most devs aren't now a days.

Perjoss5273d ago

lots of hate, I see a pattern going on here, Pete M, Cliffy B, Gabe N, I wonder what they have in common, hmm.

bigrudowsky5273d ago

cant blame a developer who gets excited about his games i love fable so its all good.

Redempteur5273d ago

nop doubt he was the one who overhyped everything ..

everything molyneux says ..you have to divide by 10 to have the real thing ...

fishd5273d ago

Molyneux on fable :

"You can bump into a tree and knock an acorn off. The acorn will then grow into a new tree over the next few years. Birds that would not have been born will be born just because you bumped into a tree. The now living birds will lead to more cats being prevelant and a quest will open up 15 years after the tree bumping incident where you can help a woman look for her cat. If the tree wasnt bumped she never would have become a creepy cat lady and you could have wed her."

WildArmed5273d ago (Edited 5273d ago )

I loved Fable Lost Chapters. Every minute of it.
I can't say the same for Fable 2 sadly :(

@above
LMFAO that is the most overhyped sh!t i've read.
This guy really needs to think hard before he runs his mouth off.

bigrudowsky5273d ago

I think he actaully didnt hype fable 2 all that much... he mainly talked about the dog which didnt really matter to me.

Pennywise5273d ago

Serial... Revolutionary?? LOL.

How long have you been gaming young lady?

StanLee5273d ago

Peter Molyneux can be get overly excited about his games, as he should be. When he speaks, he's more so speaking about ideas he has and wants to implement rather than things in a game he's developing; it's part of the development process. The problem is, he shares too much, which leads to a lot of expectations and those expectations not being met. That said, this guy made Black and White, he can say whatever the fcuk he wants.

Redempteur5273d ago

@bigrudowsky

see fishd 1.13 post

If THAT wasn't too much wwhat can i say ?

and where is the one bouton action in fable 2 everyone was waiting for ( except me ) ?

MOlyneux hyped everything he touched .. and i don't even start on black and white ...

DelbertGrady5273d ago (Edited 5272d ago )

Overhyped or not, Fable I & II were awesome games. And that's what matters. Especially Fable II with all the stuff you could do. Played it for over 40 hours.

GWAVE first to post a negative comment in a 360 related article? No way! /s

The Lazy One5272d ago

journalists overhyped it. He talked about his vision too soon, which he should have been rightfully excited for. Just like any other game, features were cut, and it didn't live up to the original vision.

He should have kept his vision under wraps, but it's gaming journalism's fault it got so huge.

Also, he already admitted he said to much way before fable 2 came out.

HolyOrangeCows5272d ago

"When Molyneux says there will be scuba diving, you'll be lucky if there's a puddle to splash about in"

Xbox Avatars Shoe5272d ago

Which is why I call him "Peter Mo-Lie-To-You"

rambi805272d ago (Edited 5272d ago )

molyneux (verb) - To overhype

In a sentence:

Fable was severly molyneuxed by its creator who just can't shut up

Saaking5272d ago

Yep, what do they have in comment? They overhype their games and don't deliver. They bash the competition in a very unprofessional manner. THAT'S what they have in common.

ShadowCK5272d ago

Please ignore the stupid fanboy comments here gentlemen. Fable II was a great game which had alot of personality compared to other games. It may have been a 'little' over hyped but I'm sure it'll all be corrected in Fable 3. I.e. Multiplayer.

Good Luck Peter!

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TheColbertinator5273d ago

Fable 2 was overhyped but Fable 1 was awesome.Not to mention the Fable 2 endings were stupid

TheHater5273d ago

Fable: The Lost Chapter is still my favorite Western RPG. Fable 2 was a disappointment.

TheBand1t5273d ago

Truth. I loved the original Fable on Xbox.

Panthers5273d ago

What does it matter if a game is overhyped or not? If a game is good, then it will be received well regardless of the hype. If not, it will be seen as overhyped.

Godmars2905273d ago

Its kind of nice he admits it, except for the fact he's hyping fable 3 and Milo, or the Milo tech in Natal, as bad if not as worse as the Fable one and two.

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Fable – What the Heck is Going On?

Announced in 2020, Playground Games' open-world action RPG has seen sporadic updates and departures but still no release date.

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PhillyDonJawn27d ago

I expect it to be released by 2026

Sonic188127d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I expect it to release by the time the next Xbox releases. Can that be 2026? Sure

DOMination-26d ago

You could say the same for any number of games that were stupidly announced during pre-production. Elder Scrolls 6 & Perfect Dark are current examples, Blade is another recent one and in the past Mass Effect Andromeda and Cyberpunk 2077 come to mind.

I don't think this game is in any trouble. For a start, Playground Games are one of the few under MS Studios that actually have a track record of delivering on time and with quality. We got a trailer last year and I'd fully expect there to be something more substantial at the next showcase in the summer.

No dramas here - just another victim of Microsoft's incompetence. They simply had to announce several games way too early because they had nothing else to talk about.

Michiel198926d ago

how are they a victim when they are clearly being given enough time? They haven't set any release date, haven't had to show any trailers, how is that being a victim? You even say yourself that you think it's not in trouble.

MrBaskerville26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

TESVI was mostly announced to stop people from asking. Like how they gave us a roadmap of first Starfield, then TES then Fallout. So people keep asking whether they'll do another one or not.

But Fable and Perfect Dark was defineately too early.

RNTody26d ago

The same thing that happens to any project when you announce it far too early. Perfect Dark, Fable, The Elder Scrolls 6, Star Wars KOTOR Remake...you actually have to, I don't know, make the game?

I'm fairly confident this game will see the light of day, as Playground have released 5 Forza games of quality and on schedule. Think it was just revealed too early.

Charlieboy33326d ago

The only issue I see is that, as you mentioned, they have only done Forza games. An RPG is completely different requiring completely different facets.

Whole new different open world....not just tracks. Character designs and animations, dialogue, combat systems, quest systems, equipment and inventory managment....the list is very long and none of it falls under their previous experience.

Even with assistance from other studios I believe they are still far off from delivering a complete version of this game.

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Baldur's Gate 3 Producer Has Joined Fable Developer Playground Games

Baldur's Gate 3 producer Ryan Clark, who worked at Larian Studios for four years, has joined Fable developer Playground Games

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Obscure_Observer230d ago

Xbox is definitely the house of RPGs and it´s getting bigger and better by the day!

Fable will be fantastic!

Marcus Fenix230d ago

I hope to see the following at Microsoft’s June games showcase:

Contraband (3rd party exclusive)
ID Software
Machine Games
The Coalition
Playground
Ninja Theory
The Initiative
Double Fine
Rare

Im sure we won’t see all these studio’s projects but at least 5 of them would be nice.

Sciurus_vulgaris230d ago

I’m surprised Gears 6 hasn’t been announced by the Coalition as of yet. Gears 5 released 4 years and the Coalitions hasn’t another AAA title since then, excluding the co-developed Gears Tactics.

Lightning77230d ago (Edited 230d ago )

Todd hinted at Indiana Jones being at next year's E3.

I heard Contraband is going through some sorta rework. I don't really have much hope for that game at this point in time.

Btw Gears 6 is in full development they took time away to learn Unreal Engine 5. Yeah... If we're going off of Immortals Of Aveum performance. They have allot of work ahead of them.

GhostScholar230d ago

I’m with you, but you had to know that comment wouldn’t be popular here lol

Sonic1881230d ago

The house of western RPGs. There, I fixed it for you

Crows90230d ago (Edited 230d ago )

Not even accurate though. They haven't made a single RPG yet. Starfield is barely an RPG as it is...there's no role picking unlike in elder scrolls games...especially the older ones. No skills...no attributes...just perks.

Imagine baldurs gate 3 where all you get to pick are feats.

Sonic1881230d ago (Edited 230d ago )

Starfield was probably the worse RPG from Bethesda. Especially when it comes to review scores on Steam

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

https://youtu.be/NuJumZT7Kt...

darthv72229d ago

All games are RPG if you think about it. You play the role of a character and do the stuff required to win the game.

Technically speaking.

Zeref230d ago (Edited 230d ago )

I couldn't be happier about that. I heard even Infinity Ward is working on an RPG. I am hyped af to see what they can do outside of CoD!

Crows90230d ago

What new RPGs has Xbox made recently?

jjb1981230d ago

I played the Fable Legends closed beta and actually kinda liked it. It sucks that it was canceled. I'm definitely looking forward to the new Fable.

Crows90230d ago

So it could have been really good. They lacked vision for the end product.

Barlos229d ago (Edited 229d ago )

Absolutely. I loved FF7 Remake and I've been playing the hell out of FFXVI and BG3 on my Xbox and I can't wait for FF7 Rebirth next February!

Oh hang on, none of them are on xbox are they?

House of the RPG indeed.

Obscure_Observer229d ago

None of the games you mentioned are first party.

Those aren´t even exclusive.

In case you didn´t notice, Fable is an first party RPG among many others in development at XGS.

CappyBlack228d ago

When's the last time Sony released a JRPG; let alone an actual RPG? Outside of 3rd party payouts. I can say the same for virtually every genre that isn't a linear action game or a racing game that doesn't press their competition.

Barlos229d ago (Edited 229d ago )

"None of the games you mentioned are first party.

Those aren´t even exclusive.

In case you didn´t notice, Fable is an first party RPG among many others in development at XGS."

And where in your original post did you mention first party? Regardless of exclusivity, none of the games I mentioned - some of the biggest RPGs around - are on Xbox but you seem to think Xbox is home of the RPG. You have Starfield and...oh, Fable. Wow.

But that's OK, if you want to move the goalposts to make yourself feel better, go right ahead 👍

Also, if you want to talk first party, some would say that Horizon and God of War are action RPGs. I personally don't, but they could be classed as such since they have RPG elements.

Obscure_Observer228d ago (Edited 228d ago )

"And where in your original post did you mention first party?"

This topic is about Ryan Clark from Larian joining Playground Games.

I said, "Xbox is definitely the house of RPGs and it´s getting bigger and better by the day!"

Not idea how you though I was talking about third party games.

"Regardless of exclusivity, none of the games I mentioned - some of the biggest RPGs around - are on Xbox but you seem to think Xbox is home of the RPG."

Xbox as a brand, doesn´t have to own all of the RPG games available in the market to be considered "the house of RPGs". I made that statement because today, Xbox is the brand with more dedicated RPG studios under its wings.

Besides, Phil has a new partnership with SE in place, we already got FFXIV from Yoshi P´s team, I wouldn´t be surprised if FF7R and FFXVI are the next. BG3 is also coming to Xbox this year, it´s not like we ain´t getting that game.

" You have Starfield and...oh, Fable. Wow."

Pentiment
Project Dragon
Towerborne
TESVI
Fallout 5
Avowed
Clockwork Revolution
The Outer Worlds 2

All first party. So now you know.

Like I said, Xbox is undoubtedly the house of the RPG games. You may not like it, but it´s nothing but a fact. Unless of course, you have some actual facts to counter the facts the brought here regarding first party RPG development.

"Also, if you want to talk first party, some would say that Horizon and God of War are action RPGs. I personally don't, but they could be classed as such since they have RPG elements."

You know as well as everybody that those games are action/adventure games with some RPG elements thrown into the mix.

Unfortunately at the moment, Sony is not investing in first party RPGs or RPG studios. Sorry.

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Crows90230d ago (Edited 230d ago )

Still waiting to see what kind of game fable will be. Hope it has gargoyles...probably not.

Hope you can pick between male or female and choose something else to distinguish yourself during character creation.

Super excited for this and perfect dark...excited to see what they make that is. Don't have any high hopes but maybe MS can prove me wrong. Playground has been their studio for a long time and the initiative is their only new studio

Lightning77230d ago

"Hope you can pick between male or female and choose something else to distinguish yourself during character creation."

That's a staple in most if not all RPG's.

henbayward230d ago

Not these days, it ain't! 🤣🤣

VersusDMC230d ago

This is a good get as Baldur's Gate 3 is highly regarded.

But this has to be a hire for their next game right? Why would Fable need a producer now?

BrainSyphoned230d ago

Because the current producers at Xbox are helping produce some real bangers.... I'm sure Fable is in a great state right now.

Charlieboy333230d ago

Can't wait to see what their '10 year plan' is for Fable.....just like Halo and now Forza. I'm curious to see just how badly they fuck this up with online focused, drip fed content, design and gameplay. Because I know it's going to be nothing like the previous games and anyone expecting that is in for a nasty surprise.

Popsicle229d ago

I really am hoping against hope that you are wrong, but I think you are probably right. Unfortunately

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Fable II - A Fantasy Series at Peak Performance

Fable II launched back in 2008 and remains the best the series has offered. Ahead of the series comeback, it's time to look at the classic.

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Crows90329d ago

They gotta bring back those gargoyles!

Dudeson329d ago

I'd love to play it again, this time on pc though. Forever waiting on that pc port.

GaboonViper329d ago

Loved this game, oh and i always saved my dog at the end, hope the new Fable has a animal companion.

got_dam329d ago

Fable 2 was the best inthe series. Peter waaaaaaay over promised with fable 1 and it was good but disappointing. He didn't go crazy eith hype for the second game and it was surprisingly awesome. Then he ran his mouth promoting 3 and it was the worst of the 3.

cthulhucultist329d ago

Funny story: Fable 3 had a funny way of keeping the promises you made in the first half of the game and having enough money to defeat the darkness.

You only had to collect enough money to buy 2 stores in a busy market district. You then raise the prices to maximum and you turn xbox 360 internal clock 99 or more years ahead.

The next time you load the game, all the rents from the 99 years are collected immediately.

But yes I agree that 3 was the weakest of the three.

Demetrius328d ago

I only got to play it once 😩 I'm so tempted to buy a Xbox 360 slim but planning on getting the series x soon since I got a PS5 in February Im ready to get saints row 1&2 back, GTA 4, fable 2, but I also want to play infamous 1&2 again Sony screwed us over with the stream only for saints row 2 and other gems smh